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Moby
03-31-2008, 11:30 AM
It may be a while before I have time to read a 218 page document but after the administration stepped in to keep the crisis going instead of allowing states to stop it, I don't have high hopes.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080331/fed_overhaul.html

Paulson Proposes Financial Overhaul
Monday March 31, 11:07 am ET
By Martin Crutsinger, AP Economics Writer
Administration Unveils Sweeping Plan to Overhaul Financial Regulation

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Bush administration Monday proposed the most far-ranging overhaul of the financial regulatory system since the stock market crash of 1929 and the ensuing Great Depression.
The plan would change how the government regulates thousands of businesses from the nation's biggest banks and investment houses down to the local insurance agent and mortgage broker.

Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson unveiled the 218-page plan in a speech in Treasury's ornate Cash Room. He declared that a strong financial system was important not just for Wall Street but also for working Americans.

The administration's plan was already drawing criticism from Democrats that it does not go far enough to deal with abuses in mortgage lending and securities trading that were exposed by the current credit crisis.

The plan, which would require congressional approval for its biggest changes, seeks to trim a hodge-podge collection of overlapping jurisdictions that date back to the Civil War.

It would give the Federal Reserve more power to protect the stability of the entire financial system while merging day-to-day bank supervision into one agency, down from five at present.

It also would create one super agency in charge of business conduct and consumer protection, performing many of the functions of the current Securities and Exchange Commission.

It would propose eliminating the Office of Thrift Supervision and the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, merging their functions into other agencies.

It would ask Congress to establish a federal Mortgage Origination Commission to set recommended minimum licensing standards for mortgage brokers, many of whom now operate outside of federal regulation, and it would also take a first step toward federal regulation of the insurance industry by asking Congress to establish an Office of Insurance Oversight inside the Treasury Department.

Paulson acknowledged in his remarks that most of the changes will not occur until after a lengthy debate in Congress, leaving it to the next administration to deal with the biggest changes proposed by the report. He also said the Bush administration's focus would remain on getting through the current severe credit crisis, which has roiled financial markets since last August.

President Bush's aides said Monday after the announcement that Bush was happy to let Paulson be the lead figure on this issue.

"The president's point of view is that he trusts Secretary Paulson to put forward what he thinks is a constructive plan," White House press secretary Dana Perino told reporters traveling with Bush aboard Air Force One to Ukraine on Monday.

She said administration officials will work with lawmakers in hopes of having constructive conversations. Asked if Bush's goal is to get the overhaul approved before he leaves office, Perino said: "We'll have to see. It's a big attempt."

"Secretary Paulson has been working on this package for about a year, so it's not like pulling a rabbit out a hat," Perino added. "It's very constructive, deliberate thinking amongst the best minds in economics."

For his part, Paulson rejected Democratic charges that it was lax regulation of mortgage brokers and the financial industry that had led to the current problems.

"I do not believe it is fair or accurate to blame our regulatory structure for the current market turmoil," he said. "I am not suggesting that more regulation is the answer or even that more effective regulation can prevent the periods of financial market stress that seem to occur every five to 10 years."

Banking groups raised strong objections to the plan while other industry groups had mixed reactions.

"Dismantling the thrift charter and crippling state banking charters will weaken banking in America," said Edward Yingling, president of the American Bankers Association.

In Congress, House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank, who is working on his own regulatory revamp, called Paulson's proposal a "constructive step forward" but said it wouldn't give the Federal Reserve enough authority to carry out its expanded job to police the stability of the entire financial system.

Many Democrats said that Congress' first priority should be to deal with the current mortgage crisis that is threatening millions of Americans with the loss of their homes and that an extensive debate on a regulatory overhaul should not occur until a new president is in office next year.

Senate Banking Committee Chairman Christopher Dodd, D-Conn., said in an appearance on CBS' "Early Show" that it was not a failure of the regulatory scheme but "a failure of leadership" that led to the current crisis.

The proposed overhaul would be the most extensive since the current regulatory system was created in response to the 1929 stock market crash and the Great Depression.

It comes at a time when the financial system faces its most severe credit crisis in two decades, one that has resulted in billions of dollars of losses for big banks and investment houses and the near-collapse of Bear Stearns, the country's fifth-largest investment bank.

The rising tide of bad debt has made it harder for consumers and businesses to get credit, further weighing on an economy struggling with a prolonged housing slump and soaring energy prices. Many economists believe the country is already in a recession.

kres24GT
03-31-2008, 11:31 AM
Regulations will only make things worse. Time to let people take their lumps. Government stepping in every time something goes wrong is killing this country.

Cat slave
03-31-2008, 11:46 AM
That was the very (almost) last thing that would get my Monday morning off to
a good start!

Bar the doors!!!!!

Moby
03-31-2008, 12:34 PM
Regulations will only make things worse. Time to let people take their lumps. Government stepping in every time something goes wrong is killing this country.
Yes but since it involves wealthy bankers and investors the bail out will be the largest in history.

We knew of the Bush family ties with the S&L crisis so everyone that voted for Bush (and those of us that didn't) knew this was going to happen.

kres24GT
03-31-2008, 01:07 PM
Yes but since it involves wealthy bankers and investors the bail out will be the largest in history.

We knew of the Bush family ties with the S&L crisis so everyone that voted for Bush (and those of us that didn't) knew this was going to happen.


I really think its funny how you blame Bush for everything. Making home loans easier to get has been a bipartisan effort for a long time.It's funny you blame it all on Bush. Democrats and Republicans have been screaming since the early 90's that they wanted people who couldn't afford homes to own them. You sound like frank when you do this and are smarter than this.


Anyway hopefully the politicians will sit this one out and let us take the lumps of our fuck up. Government bailing us out over and over again is starting to rear its ugly heads.

But you are right, we can't let corporations who fucked up go out of business, so more than likely there will be anotehr bail out.

If all welfare isn't ended soon it's going to be bad news for this country very soon.

Moby
03-31-2008, 02:02 PM
I really think its funny how you blame Bush for everything. Making home loans easier to get has been a bipartisan effort for a long time.It's funny you blame it all on Bush. Democrats and Republicans have been screaming since the early 90's that they wanted people who couldn't afford homes to own them. You sound like frank when you do this and are smarter than this.

Anyway hopefully the politicians will sit this one out and let us take the lumps of our fuck up. Government bailing us out over and over again is starting to rear its ugly heads.

But you are right, we can't let corporations who fucked up go out of business, so more than likely there will be another bail out.

If all welfare isn't ended soon it's going to be bad news for this country very soon.
Actually I blame the Americans that sat around listening to the Neoconservative media and watching Fox News instead of spending a little time to actually read about the past before voting.

Bush did interfere with states that wanted to stop the train wreck but he couldn't allow that. The PNAC was making too much money.

The tax payers will always save the banks because the banks are basically owned by the fed and the fed is what really controls the country. That's why Bush is saying that we need to give the fed more control instead of less.
Fascism requires it.

disrupter
03-31-2008, 02:08 PM
I would go over ANYTHING this gang of NeoCriminals put out.
Probably full of Wall Street favors & giveaways.

Congress should be in NO hurry with anything this potentially significant.
Unlike the patriot act & much of the GOP 6 year legislative track record they should ACTUALLY read it AND comprehend it & parse it for loopholes & its likely long term ramifications.

The cow already left the barn, there is no need to hurry & close the gate right now.

The Bush administration has EARNED distrust in integrity as well as competence.

kres24GT
03-31-2008, 02:11 PM
Actually I blame the Americans that sat around listening to the Neoconservative media and watching Fox News instead of spending a little time to actually read about the past before voting.

Bush did interfere with states that wanted to stop the train wreck but he couldn't allow that. The PNAC was making too much money.

The tax payers will always save the banks because the banks are basically owned by the fed and the fed is what really controls the country. That's why Bush is saying that we need to give the fed more control instead of less.
Fascism requires it.


Of course Bush wants to give the government and the fed more power, this is what all politcians want.... the totalitarian state.


I can't imagine the powers of delusion it takes to think this is not a bipartisan effort.

Moby
03-31-2008, 02:39 PM
Of course Bush wants to give the government and the fed more power, this is what all politcians want.... the totalitarian state.

I can't imagine the powers of delusion it takes to think this is not a bipartisan effort.
The Fed is NOT really the government. A Senator, President or Representative has some over site and some control over regulatory bodies and commissions. They don't really have control over the fed. As the fed becomes stronger then the people we elect have less control over it and The PNAC has more control over it.

The new power given to the government agencies is valid for your point but not those concerning the fed. Most politicians are not in a position to influence the fed in any way.

kres24GT
03-31-2008, 02:43 PM
The Fed is NOT really the government. A Senator, President or Representative has some over site and some control over regulatory bodies and commissions. They don't really have control over the fed. As the fed becomes stronger then the people we elect have less control over it and The PNAC has more control over it.

The new power given to the government agencies is valid for your point but not those concerning the fed. Most politicians are not in a position to influence the fed in any way.


That is why I said AND. And politcians most certainly can affect the fed, and would like to increase their power to do more so.

I disagree with you on the fed's power. They know the only way they will get that power is via the politcians, the two will always work closely together to screw over Americans.