Don't look now, but the Dems are eyeballing your 401

[Frankg]

Pelosi wants to tax your 401k to improve living conditions for the poor
Nancy Pelosi wants to put a Windfall tax on all stock market profits (including Retirement fund, 401K's?

and Mutual Funds, When asked how these new tax dollars would be spent, she replied ; ; "We need to raise the standard of living of our poor, unemployed and minorities. For example, we have an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in our country who need our help along with millions of unemployed minorities. Stock market windfall profits taxes could go a long ways to guarantee these people the standard of living they would like to have as "Americans"."
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070604093741AAqQYF5

[LogicallyYours]

Well maybe if we didn't have to spend how many billions of dollars a week on a wrongful war, we might have more money.

You really are a pathetic hypocrite.

[Smurf-Herder]

I believe this is something CatSlave brought up in another thread.

[Independent Harry]

Well maybe if we didn't have to spend how many billions of dollars a week on a wrongful war, we might have more money.

You really are a pathetic hypocrite.

For once we can agree on something.

[Cat slave]

Well maybe if we didn't have to spend how many billions of dollars a week on a wrongful war, we might have more money.

You really are a pathetic hypocrite.

Oh sure. Like the government would ever stop hoarding our money!
Dont be so naive. We are sold out to the powerful upper class in the name
of a global economy. They are not going to do anything for us, just TO us
for their own gain. Do you seriously think that should the dems get total
power they are going to stop the war and lower out taxes or
borrowing $$ from China and anyone else who will spring for our notes????
Do you seriously think they would give up one cent of our money and let us
keep the fruits of OUR labor??? Not.

Hmmm.....there is some land in the everglades of Fla...real cheap I hear.

[Cat slave]

Pelosi wants to tax your 401k to improve living conditions for the poor
Nancy Pelosi wants to put a Windfall tax on all stock market profits (including Retirement fund, 401K's?

and Mutual Funds, When asked how these new tax dollars would be spent, she replied ; ; "We need to raise the standard of living of our poor, unemployed and minorities. For example, we have an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in our country who need our help along with millions of unemployed minorities. Stock market windfall profits taxes could go a long ways to guarantee these people the standard of living they would like to have as "Americans"."
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070604093741AAqQYF5


There you go, Sir Moby....theres your link.

Thanks Frank.

There are truly none so blind as those who WILL not see! But youre gonna
pay big time like the rest of us. Get out your issue gray shirt and get ready
to be a worker bee and live in a government provided housing project with
government issued minimal health care and government issued monetary
allotment based on your worth to the state...which will be little as you will
be just a number and easily replaced by the elites who swoon and fawn over
their noble ideals and wealth redistribution...ours not theirs.:banghead:

[Cat slave]

I believe this is something CatSlave brought up in another thread.

But Frank supplied the link....a requirement for validity apparently.:thumbsup:

[bigfootzx]

I wonder if Pelosi will want to increase taxes on alcohol too, she owns a vineyard/winery?? I bet the INS never inspects for illegals on her farm!

We already help illegals, there are still programs handing out cash, we dont need to give them more. Too many are getting a free ride and they have no civil right to the money.

Watch the market reaction if the Bill ever hits the Senate, the Bill will be stalled. Wall street is notorious when it comes to taxing investments, they'll dump billons of securities just to show her what will happen if the Bill were passed. They know how to threaten and bully the legislature!!

[Moby]

:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

You people are funny. Some one posted it on a blog so it must be true. The National Review won't even post something like this.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/pelosi.asp

Is there a NEWS source for this instead of Michael Savage, some random bloggers and a chain email?

[RandomNerd]

Why shouldn't Illegal Immigrants get money from the rich? Illegal immigrants work harder than anyone else in this country, manning McDonalds drive thrus and doing yard work, and get paid less than $4 an hour. Meanwhile the rich CEO works 2 hours a day, plays golf the rest of the time, and gets $1,000,000 an hour on the backs of said illegal immigrants. I never will understand why the right doesn't want cheap, easily exploitable labor while the left doesn't care about the welfare of these people. No matter what your political views, there is a benefit to letting in all immigrants except possibly serial killers and known terrorists (terrorists, not arabs! there is a difference). If the story is true then it represents the first time in years the Democrats have actually taken the initiative and proposed a piece of legislation that will benefit those who need it the most at the expense of those who need it the least.

[disrupter]

I suspect that taxing 401ks would be nothing less than a third rail of politics.

A huge number of better educated, better connected people virtually all have these, and that would be political suicide imo.

I hope the Dems are smarter than this.
If they don't have the testicles to stop this insane waste of money on the Iraq fiasco, don't even breathe a thought like this.

[Frankg]

ATTENTION

I feel I must retract this post since it has been proven to be false...my apologies

A widely circulated e-mail quoting her is a fraud.
Given the number of times we've been asked about this particular bit of bunk, a lot of gullible people are indeed sending it on to their friends. But those who are truly "brilliant," or even half-bright, will treat it with skepticism. The urban legend site Snopes.com (http://factchecked.org/Sfts_PolicyWonksDetails.aspx?myId=28) has already looked into this e-mail and proclaimed (http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/pelosi.asp) it to be false. We find ourselves in total agreement. It's a fraud.


For starters, the e-mail has been in circulation since late 2006 – that is, right around the mid-term elections that resulted in control of Congress shifting to the Democrats. The earliest version of the e-mail attributed the claims to a bylined article by Walt Bogdanich and Gretchen Morgenson dated Oct. 22, 2006.

Bogdanich and Morgenson are in fact real reporters with the New York Times. And they did in fact publish a piece (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/22/business/22hedge.html?_r=1&n=Top/News/Business/Companies/Morgan%20Stanley&oref=slogin) together on October 22, 2006. Its headline: “S.E.C. Inquiry On Hedge Fund Draws Scrutiny.” However, Rep. Nancy Pelosi isn't mentioned in that article.


Further proof that the e-mail is made up: None of the supposed Pelosi quotes appears in any news source we were able to find in an extensive search of news databases, nor do they show up in archives of mainstream conservative commentators. Had Pelosi really advocated taxing the retirement accounts of thousands of American workers and giving the proceeds to “illegal immigrants,” one would imagine that Rush Limbaugh might have mentioned that.


What Pelosi did advocate at around the same time was cutting tax breaks for oil and other energy companies. As CNNMoney.com reported (http://money.cnn.com/2006/11/10/news/economy/oil_profits/index.htm) at the time:



CNNMoney.com, Nov. 28, 2006: Holding a slim majority, Democrats will instead attempt to eliminate tax breaks for energy companies and raise royalty payments for oil and gas drilled on federal land, according to a spokesman for House speaker-to-be Rep. Nancy Pelosi.
The measures are expected to add $33 billion to federal coffers over the next 25 years, which Democrats say they'll channel into renewable energy.
Pelosi's spokesman said $20 billion is expected to come from eliminating royalty relief.




Raising taxes on oil companies is quite different from a 100 percent tax on all stock gains. As far as we can determine, no one in Congress has called for a 100 percent stock-profit tax on even the richest Americans, nor has anyone proposed raiding anyone’s 401(k) to fund “illegal immigrants.”



This one totally fails the FactCheck.org test. It's a malicious fabrication.

-Joe Miller
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_pelosi_advocate_taxing_windfall_stock_profits. html (http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_pelosi_advocate_taxing_windfall_stock_profits. html)

[Cat slave]

Now thats how someone with class handles a situation like that. Take notes
libs!:p

[Moby]

ATTENTION I feel I must retract this post since it has been proven to be false...my apologies

That's exactly how Fox News and Glenn Beck handle it.

They shout it out it large threads with big bold titles and then normally speak the apology in small quite text.

After the damage, in many cases has been done.

[bigfootzx]

I finally ached Glenn Beck last night, he looks like a fast food assistant manager and acts like a bafoon sometimes. If he can get a job on the air then anyone can.

[Smurf-Herder]

I finally ached Glenn Beck last night, he looks like a fast food assistant manager and acts like a bafoon sometimes. If he can get a job on the air then anyone can.

He's primarly an entertainer, with strong political beliefs. If you listen to the radio show, you'd see half of it is political satire.

[Smurf-Herder]

That's exactly how Fox News and Glenn Beck handle it.

They shout it out it large threads with big bold titles and then normally speak the apology in small quite text.

After the damage, in many cases has been done.

Got examples?

[bigfootzx]

He's primarly an entertainer, with strong political beliefs. If you listen to the radio show, you'd see half of it is political satire.

true, commentators are free to ad-lib, lie or manipulate the truth with spin, both sides have such commentators. reporters report facts and commentators are free to do whatever they can gt away with. Good thing we have the internet to check facts and keep them in check.

[Smurf-Herder]

true, commentators are free to ad-lib, lie or manipulate the truth with spin, both sides have such commentators. reporters report facts and commentators are free to do whatever they can gt away with. Good thing we have the internet to check facts and keep them in check.

The radio show has hilarious parodies, of both sides. The guy is funny as hell. It has a good balance with the serious side. It's nothing like the TV show.

[disrupter]

How about good FOX reporters telling the story of the Israeli connections to 911,
and then getting silenced by their crooked corporate masters?

[bigfootzx]

How about good FOX reporters telling the story of the Israeli connections to 911,
and then getting silenced by their crooked corporate masters?

Never heard about the connection afterthefact. A dead end with no ties to Israel. All conspirarcy with no relevant facts.