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Bill
03-11-2008, 03:51 AM
I thought this was encouraging.

I've noticed this myself - tho maybe there are just particularly cool old fogies living in my area.

http://www.livescience.com/health/080310-liberal-seniors.html

By comparing surveys of various age groups taken over a span of more than 30 years, sociologists found that in general, Americans' opinions veer toward the liberal as they grow older.

"All the evidence we have found refutes the idea that as people age their attitudes become more conservative or more rigid," said Nicholas Danigelis, a sociologist at the University of Vermont. "It's just not true. More people are changing in a liberal direction than in a conservative direction."

Danigelis and collaborators Stephen Cutler of the University of Vermont and Melissa Hardy of Pennsylvania State University analyzed data from the U.S. General Social Surveys of 46,510 Americans between 1972 and 2004. While the surveys did not provide data for the same individuals at different stages, they represented snapshots of the changing attitudes of respondents in different age cohorts over time. The researchers corrected for the fact that the age groups at different survey times are made of up new members with unique baseline opinions.

The surveys assessed attitudes on politics, economics, race, gender, religion and sexuality issues. In some cases, such as racial issues and questions of civil liberties for communists, the researchers measured a greater change toward liberalism in older people than in younger people.

"What we believe has happened, at least for the race relations, is that the older group, starting out at a position of significantly more negative feelings, had further to go," Danigelis told LiveScience.

If people really become more liberal as they age, why does common wisdom hold the opposite to be true?

People might find an average 60-year-old to be more conservative than an average 30-year-old, Danigelis said, but beware of extrapolating a trend. The older person, for example, might have started off even more conservative than he or she is now.

Danigelis also blamed the misconception on pervasive negative attitudes toward the elderly in our country, and stereotypes that depict seniors as rigid, ornery and set in their ways.

"If you look at any greeting cards about getting older you’ve got a wonderful lecture about age stereotypes," he said. "My colleague continues to cut out cartoons about getting old and trying to teach old dogs new tricks."

disrupter
03-11-2008, 08:24 AM
I am not sure about that.
It could be they are sampling baby boomers who grew up in the 60s & 70s when social liberalism was at all time highs in this nation.

It could be that THESE particular old people are more liberal than is average.

I wouldn't be surprised if this particular older population went from liberal youth to corporate cynical conservative middle aged & then seeing the havoc that the NeoCons have wrought they are headed more liberally again.

I suppose another element in the mix is this is probably the richest older generation, perhaps ever in the planet's history.
Wealth, comfort & security probably strongly tend to soften one's heart,
especially when you see that it is not unlikely the next generation will not see nearly the advantages they saw. Perhaps a twinge of guilt is in there too?

Moby
03-11-2008, 03:47 PM
Read my signature. Rove knows it. As people become more educated on the facts they tend to move away from the GOP.

LadyMod at scam.com
03-11-2008, 11:08 PM
I thought this was encouraging.

I've noticed this myself - tho maybe there are just particularly cool old fogies living in my area.

http://www.livescience.com/health/080310-liberal-seniors.html

If that's true then HD and RadioGuy must have been stiff as corpses when they were younger. They still have quite of bit of "liberalating" yet to do.


:lmao2:

Smurf-Herder
03-11-2008, 11:24 PM
As it says in the story:

"While the surveys did not provide data for the same individuals at different stages, they represented snapshots of the changing attitudes of respondents in different age cohorts over time. The researchers corrected for the fact that the age groups at different survey times are made of up new members with unique baseline opinions."

There's no scientific basis for the findings.

Independent Harry
03-11-2008, 11:39 PM
As it says in the story:

"While the surveys did not provide data for the same individuals at different stages, they represented snapshots of the changing attitudes of respondents in different age cohorts over time. The researchers corrected for the fact that the age groups at different survey times are made of up new members with unique baseline opinions."

There's no scientific basis for the findings.

lol you're just scared you're becoming a liberal, its ok smurphy, don't fight it...embrace it :)

Smurf-Herder
03-12-2008, 12:08 AM
lol you're just scared you're becoming a liberal, its ok smurphy, don't fight it...embrace it :)

It's pretty vague, as far as being a "scientific" study.

I'm more conservative than I used to be. And nobody I've known in the past 40 years seems to have changed much in their views; other than "women's lib" no longer being an issue, but the norm.

disrupter
03-12-2008, 12:12 AM
From a sampling of prosperous America it is easy to question this holding under different populations with different conditions.

Moby
03-12-2008, 12:57 PM
It's pretty vague, as far as being a "scientific" study.

I'm more conservative than I used to be. And nobody I've known in the past 40 years seems to have changed much in their views; other than "women's lib" no longer being an issue, but the norm.
It's not a very scientific study at all.

Karl Rove knows that educated people tend to go against the GOP so maybe as people get older and become more wise ....

Smurf-Herder
03-12-2008, 01:06 PM
It's not a very scientific study at all.

Karl Rove knows that educated people tend to go against the GOP so maybe as people get older and become more wise ....

Had to get your little zing in there, huh?

Moby
03-12-2008, 01:08 PM
Had to get your little zing in there, huh?
:) He said it :)

Cat slave
03-12-2008, 02:57 PM
It's not a very scientific study at all.

Karl Rove knows that educated people tend to go against the GOP so maybe as people get older and become more wise ....

I would beg to differ there, Moby. As people age they become more ulnerable
to scare tactics which is a favorite mo for libs. Tell them the old people are
going to be thrown into the street, theyre going to have to choose between
eating or medicine if the dems dont get in....who of course have no ones
best interest at heart(?) except their own and scared old people bow to the
pressure. Or not! Some manage to see the tricks and choose an independent
path and will support the candidate they perceive as being the best for the
country and their grandchildren. Not all turn into sheeple living in fear and
serving as pawns for the "party"! That would apply to either side....using
people as pawns that is. I dont like being a pawn in a power play or being
lied to.

bigfootzx
03-12-2008, 05:30 PM
Sounds like psudo-socialologist nonsense. They provide no facts, figures nor proof that this is anything more than a general survey that they attempt to explain. I find it suspicous that this is aimed at politics, sounds like a dem vs rep article. Nothing more.

"But new research has debunked the myth that people become more conservative as they age." What did they debunk? No proof just opinion.
Good thing they did not ask Phil McGraw to help out!!!

Moby
03-12-2008, 06:46 PM
Sounds like psudo-socialologist nonsense. They provide no facts, figures nor proof that this is anything more than a general survey that they attempt to explain. I find it suspicous that this is aimed at politics, sounds like a dem vs rep article. Nothing more.

"But new research has debunked the myth that people become more conservative as they age." What did they debunk? No proof just opinion.
Good thing they did not ask Phil McGraw to help out!!!
I think everyone agrees that this research is very questionable and I think that's why no one is jumping on it as something of importance.

It means nothing.