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Bill
11-09-2006, 06:42 PM
It looks like the holy grail of information security and a totally secure internet has been discovered and a practical application built!

How long it will take to reach technical maturity is anybodies guess, but I hope it is fast, fast, fast!

QUANTUM ENCRYPTION - on the fly, and hopefully soon on a chip.

Do you guys have any idea what this will mean?

True internet money, for one.

Unforgeable, totally secure digital signatures.

Totally secure unbreakable privacy, that can be used for everything!

Literally, this will change the world. It's fantastic!

Combine this with the data teleportation discovered earlier in this year and you have faster-than-light, in fact instantaneous, totally secure information transfer. You know what that means? We can reach the near stars with robot ships, maybe even within the lifetime of the young people here.

Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful!

http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/nov2006/tc20061106_302053.htm?campaign_id=bier_tcv.g3a.rss m1109z
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The next step in security is quantum cryptography, and a few companies are developing encryption products using it. New York-based MagiQ Technologies is one of them. It builds boxes that harness the properties of quantum physics to create encryption keys it claims can't be broken.

Why is MagiQ so confident? Uncertainty. MagiQ's gear generates particles of light called photons, which are so small, the conventional rules of physics don't apply to them. In 1927 a German physicist named Werner Heisenberg found that merely observing a particle as small as a photon alters it. Once you look at it, it's never the same again.

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This is known as Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle, and it turns out that if you use the state of a photon to generate an encryption key—essentially a secret set of random numbers—it's easy to determine whether anyone else has looked at it while trying to get a copy of the key you used.

"Uncertainty is the principle we exploit," says Mike LaGasse, MagiQ's vice-president for engineering. "It's fundamentally impossible to observe the key, because the photon can be measured once and only once. An eavesdropper can't measure it, and so can't get the key."

Magic combines a computer, a finely tuned laser, a photon detector, and a fiber-optic line. The laser inside the MagiQ QPN box is adjusted to produce single photons, which are then sent over the fiber-optic cable to a second QPN box, which detects them and notes precisely their time of arrival.

The two boxes then compare how the photon appeared when it left the first box to how it appears when it arrived at the second. If they match, the photon is used to generate a key, which is used to encrypt the data. If they don't match, the photon is ignored. The obvservations of each good photon are saved and used as needed to generate keys. This process repeats itself hundreds of times a second.
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SirMoby
11-10-2006, 07:53 PM
This doesn't sound like it's something that could be used with modern Internet traffic since it requires a physical point to point connection.

Abnormalia
11-10-2006, 07:58 PM
nope. not yet. The beauty in the encryption lies in the method of sending the message. Internet lines don't count, sadly.

Linkster
11-13-2006, 02:06 PM
Its funny - I was watching a show the other night that was based on the governments involvement in something similar to this - although you have to wonder how fast the US Govt will step in to require that a key be made available - and how fast that will be rejected as "big brother" (Hopefully)

Reminds me of the old pgp key debate due to the US not allowing the exportation of the technology

Abnormalia
11-13-2006, 03:08 PM
It's funny, I was also looking into encryption last night. The way I figure it, encryption is getting good enough now that the government will have a hard time seeing what we're doing. I'm paranoid enough to know that they do want to know what we're doing and sending.

So, instead of spending all this time trying to crack our encryption, why not just send a trojan horse into the targets computer that logs their keystrokes. Bingo, the Government can see messages, passwords, everything. Oh, and there is such a program:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Lantern_%28software%29

Bill
11-13-2006, 05:25 PM
Well shit, I didn't read the whole article, it pisses me off that the system needs a direct physical connect to verify the key.

I still wonder if there isn't some way to use an analog process, that could be built into a chip, to generate a strong encryption key.

With PGP, you began by rapping on the keyboard to generate a starting number.

I was reading this and thinking that they were talking about a efficient way to generate very strong keys on the fly.

For the internet, you don't need ultra strong encryption, just an encryption that is strong enough, but that can generate a key for every single use rapidly.

A chip can't ever generate a truly random key by itself. I was thinking that a photon measuring tool on a chip could get around that problem.

Abnormalia
11-13-2006, 06:50 PM
TrueCrypt uses "30 or more seconds of random mouse movements" to generate a random key. Basically, you have to play with the mouse for as long as you like and with every subtle movement a new key is born. Eventually it becomes very random.

Linkster
11-14-2006, 12:43 AM
Seems to me that no matter how random it seems, that even a mouse movement can be defined within a certain plane, so it isnt completely random. I still like that concept of a key generation system that is dependant only on the sender and receiver and their knowledge of each other that cannot be interpreted through any program (like I know the beginning of a thought or occurence and only you know the outcome)

SirMoby
11-14-2006, 01:34 AM
There are many ways to generate strong encryption keys and many ways to exchange those keys to ensure that someone listening doesn't gather any useful information about them.

exarmyranger
11-19-2006, 07:30 PM
Hmmm,very interesting.Whatever new technoledgy is developed to protect one's privacy from unwanted eye's...You can be assured "Big Brother" will,if not already,find a way to circumvent it.Remember this,Just because a person is paranoid...Does'nt mean somebody is'nt out to get you.