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disrupter
02-21-2008, 10:47 AM
McCains deep involvement in Keating's Savings & Loan Scandals of the 1980s wasn't enough,

Now he is caught writing letters to Regulatory agencies on behalf of a woman lobbyist, his aides were worried he was having a sexual relationship with, & flown around by her client's private jets.

The GOP is embedded with lobbyists, at the expensive expense of the American people & their children.

For McCain, Self-Confidence on Ethics Poses Its Own Risk
By JIM RUTENBERG, MARILYN W. THOMPSON, DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK and STEPHEN LABATON
Published: February 21, 2008
WASHINGTON — Early in Senator John McCain’s first run for the White House eight years ago, waves of anxiety swept through his small circle of advisers.

A female lobbyist had been turning up with him at fund-raisers, visiting his offices and accompanying him on a client’s corporate jet. Convinced the relationship had become romantic, some of his top advisers intervened to protect the candidate from himself — instructing staff members to block the woman’s access, privately warning her away and repeatedly confronting him, several people involved in the campaign said on the condition of anonymity.

When news organizations reported that Mr.
McCain had written letters to government regulators on behalf of the lobbyist’s client,
the former campaign associates said, some aides feared for a time that attention would fall on her involvement.

Mr. McCain, 71, and the lobbyist, Vicki Iseman, 40, both say they never had a romantic relationship. But to his advisers, even the appearance of a close bond with a lobbyist whose clients often had business before the Senate committee Mr. McCain led threatened the story of redemption and rectitude that defined his political identity.

It had been
just a decade since an official favor for a friend with regulatory problems had nearly ended Mr. McCain’s political career by ensnaring him in the Keating Five scandal.
In the years that followed, he reinvented himself as the scourge of special interests, a crusader for stricter ethics and campaign finance rules, a man of honor chastened by a brush with shame.

But the concerns about Mr. McCain’s relationship with Ms. Iseman underscored an enduring paradox of his post-Keating career. Even as he has vowed to hold himself to the highest ethical standards, his confidence in his own integrity has sometimes seemed to blind him to potentially embarrassing conflicts of interest.

Mr. McCain promised, for example, never to fly directly from Washington to Phoenix, his hometown, to avoid the impression of self-interest because he sponsored a law that opened the route nearly a decade ago. But like other lawmakers,
he often flew on the corporate jets of business executives seeking his support, including the media moguls Rupert Murdoch, Michael R. Bloomberg and Lowell W. Paxson, Ms. Iseman’s client.
(Last year he voted to end the practice.) . . .http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/us/politics/21mccain.html?_r=2&pagewanted=1&hp&oref=slogin

asroc
02-21-2008, 11:58 AM
i mean did anyone really think mccain was above catering to lobbyists? he just won the republican presidential nomination.

Cat slave
02-21-2008, 12:17 PM
Oh for gods sake. Can you all not see beyond your noses? I loathe McAmnesty
but the games have begun, ie Michelles bad choice of words, Baraks recycling
of "words" now McAmnesty "may have" frolicked with a lobbyist! I dont doubt
that he and all the other pigs in WA have enjoyed many benefits from their
association with the ones who have bought them.
But to take any of those trivialities and run with them like they are more than
what they are.....ammunition from the other side in a nasty conflict....is downright dumb.
Why is it so easy to be "had" and manipulated by those characters? It just
takes attention away from the serious issues we face....the real ones that is.

Ive been had and I didnt like it and I wont be used again. Give it some thought.
Dont let them jerk you around and deflect your attention from what is really
happening.

disrupter
02-21-2008, 12:40 PM
But it mattered so much when Lewinsky, a NON-lobbyist, was frolicking with the president?

You are not only inconsistent, you are wildly, exaggeratedly, perversely bent for the corporate agenda.

Moby
02-21-2008, 01:11 PM
What's funny is that Fox News spent all night bashing this story and stating that anyone that would print the story, listen to the story or pay attention to the story was a pin head.

Of course they all voted for Bush who was made by Rove by doing the exact same thing against the exact same guy.

Basically another double standard. It's OK if supporters of the PNAC do it but not if anyone else does it. Such a bunch of bull shit.

Bill
02-21-2008, 04:04 PM
Frnakly, I don't care a bit of mccain was enjoying flirting with a pretty young female telcom lobbyist.

I don't care if he was having sex with her.

I assume from the start that ALL politicians are making backroon deals and being bribed by lobbyists.

I think the NYT article was pretty suspicious in it's timing, and especially in it's compete lack of actual evidence or content. Did you read it? It says absolutely nothing new.

This is a hit job by the corporate powers.

THAT I think should be investigated.

And it's one more reason to be suspicious of the new york times. The old gray lady has some explaining to do.

tomc
02-21-2008, 05:31 PM
ok, this happened 8years ago why wasnt there a problem back then.

Moby
02-21-2008, 05:36 PM
This is a hit job by the corporate powers.

THAT I think should be investigated.

And it's one more reason to be suspicious of the new york times. The old gray lady has some explaining to do.
As McCain gets closer to the nomination any thing concerning him becomes more news worthy to the public. Today everyone is talking about the NYT. Fox News has been talking about them since yesterday. Every time I switch to Fox (I can't spend more then a few minutes there) they've been talking about it.

My guess is that all this publicity is good for business. They're making a lot of money off this story and isn't that the point of running a news paper? Well, unless you're a Neoconservative paper run by a tax exempt church group with strong ties members of The PNAC.

Of course what's really going to be interesting is the more recent support McCain has given to Paxson's interests. This silly story, which is making money, could be a precursor to real news. If that's the case they made a brilliant marketing play without ever having to manipulate any actual facts, which of course is how many other media networks make money.

Moby
02-21-2008, 05:37 PM
ok, this happened 8years ago why wasnt there a problem back then.
Because the Bush/Rove campaign was slinging enough mud on McCain to win without this silly fact. Besides, if Bush would have mentioned that maybe republicans normal sex drives then they couldn't have won Florida even with the President's brother managing it.

Bill
02-21-2008, 05:41 PM
Did you notice any new facts in the NYT's story?

I'd read before about this fermale lobbyist, and the claims that McCains aides had to step in to restore an image of propriety - so that wasn't new news to me.

I assumed everyone knew about McCains ties to the savings and loan and junk bonds scandal.

I didn't read anything I thought was new. Which is what make me wonder about the timing.

tomc
02-21-2008, 05:50 PM
Because the Bush/Rove campaign was slinging enough mud on McCain to win without this silly fact. Besides, if Bush would have mentioned that maybe republicans normal sex drives then they couldn't have won Florida even with the President's brother managing it.i find it very hard to believe anything karl rove says.

disrupter
02-21-2008, 09:49 PM
What has changed is McCain is now the GOP likely presidential nominee.

That is what makes this relevant & timely,
to scrutinize him before people choose to vote for him without having a grounding in available facts.

Most voters have short attention spans & don't remember things that long ago. Some of them weren't even born yet.

If they, at that point, want to vote for another GOP shill for corporate lobbyists they are free to sell out their nation & their children, . . . . yet again.

Bill
02-21-2008, 10:37 PM
What I've bene reading is that the NYT jumped to get the story up first because other publishers had it and were going to run it next week.

Since Drudge published in december that the NYT was investigating the topic, I guess everyone in publishing knew it was only a matter of time before these articles started to appear.

So maybe the NYT was just bowing to the inevitable and running a bad article first, before the others got the scoop.

So, maybe my first impression, of a corporate hit job, was wrong.

disrupter
02-21-2008, 11:19 PM
McCain is just another shill for corporations.

The straight talk express will send us straight into the hands of all the Defense contractors with his anti-terrorism hysteria of the GOP.

Go Straight to Hell Express, With McCain.

tomc
02-23-2008, 12:52 PM
granted , the canadates should be put under the microscope, but to come out with a story like this without much fact, just bad journalism.