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hdmarketing
01-29-2008, 06:18 PM
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House # 1
A 20 room mansion ( not including 8 bathrooms ) heated by
natural gas.
Add on a pool ( and a pool house) and a separate guest house, all heated by gas.
In one month this residence consumes more energy than the average American household does in a year.
The average bill for electricity and natural gas runs over $2400.
In natural gas alone, this property consumes more than 20 times the national average for an American home.
This house is not situated in a Northern or Midwestern 'snow belt' area. It's in the South.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i217/dklowery/BushHome.jpg
House # 2
Designed by an architecture professor at a leading national university. This house incorporates every 'green' feature current home construction can provide.
The house is 4,000 square feet ( 4 bedrooms ) and is nestled on a high prairie in the American southwest .
A central closet in the house holds geothermal heat-pumps drawing ground water through pipes sunk 300 feet into the ground.
The water (usually 67 degrees F.) heats the house in the winter and cools it in the summer.
The system uses no fossil fuels such as oil or natural gas and it consumes one-quarter of the electricity required for a conventional heating/cooling system.
Rainwater from the roof is collected and funneled into a 25,000 gallon underground cistern.
Wastewater from showers, sinks and toilets goes into underground purifying tanks and then into the cistern.
The collected water then irrigates the land surrounding the house. Surrounding flowers and shrubs native to the area enable the property to blend into the surrounding rural landscape.
HOUSE #1 is outside of Nashville , Tennessee ; it is the abode of the 'environmentalist' Al Gore.
HOUSE #2 is on a ranch near Crawford , Texas ; it is the residence the of the President of the United States , George W. Bush.
An 'inconvenient truth'.
Im a Bad Girl
01-30-2008, 05:35 AM
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i217/dklowery/BushHome.jpg
House # 2
Designed by an architecture professor at a leading national university. This house incorporates every 'green' feature current home construction can provide.
The house is 4,000 square feet ( 4 bedrooms ) and is nestled on a high prairie in the American southwest .
A central closet in the house holds geothermal heat-pumps drawing ground water through pipes sunk 300 feet into the ground.
The water (usually 67 degrees F.) heats the house in the winter and cools it in the summer.
The system uses no fossil fuels such as oil or natural gas and it consumes one-quarter of the electricity required for a conventional heating/cooling system.
Rainwater from the roof is collected and funneled into a 25,000 gallon underground cistern.
Wastewater from showers, sinks and toilets goes into underground purifying tanks and then into the cistern.
The collected water then irrigates the land surrounding the house. Surrounding flowers and shrubs native to the area enable the property to blend into the surrounding rural landscape.
HOUSE #1 is outside of Nashville , Tennessee ; it is the abode of the 'environmentalist' Al Gore.
HOUSE #2 is on a ranch near Crawford , Texas ; it is the residence the of the President of the United States , George W. Bush.
An 'inconvenient truth'.
Except that's not George Bush's house in your picture. That is the original house on the property but not what George Bush and his family live in. And considering that the Bush house is in Crawford, which is desert like, and way out in the sticks, (no humidity, fairly mild, if hot, weather) and Bush didn't make a fortune as governor, can't manage to keep a company (much less a country) solvent, do you really have to wonder why it has the money saving features? It was built for the weather in Texas, NOT Tennessee. And it's his vacation house the last I heard.
By the way, for such a "thrifty" man, George Bush hasn't extended that thriftyness towards a country wide energy program or spending package and Al Gore isn't the president.
Here's part of Bush's real home:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dc/Bush-merkel.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/98/Bush-ranch-walk.jpg
satellite view: http://cryptome.org/bush-ranch.htm (Note, the estate is not small.Also notice how arid the land is?)
It's a rock home. And supposed to be 4,000 square feet.
House
David Heymann, then an associate professor of architecture at the University of Texas at Austin, designed the four-bedroom (although some reports indicate it is eight-bedrooms), 4,000 ft² (372 m²) honey-colored native limestone single-level home with painted white galvanized tin roof on the site. Heymann said the house was built from the less sought after portion of the local "Leuders limestone." The middle portions of the blocks of stone is a cream colored while the edges are multicolored. "We bought all this throwaway stone. It's fabulous. It's got great color and it is relatively inexpensive," Heymann said.
In addition there is an open 10 foot (3 m) wide limestone porch that encircles the house. The house was built by members of a religious community from nearby Elm Mott, Texas, and wasn't finally completed until after his inauguration because of needed accommodations for security, meeting space, etc.
Laura Bush said they decided to keep a single level ranch design because "We wanted our older parents to feel comfortable here... We also want to grow old here ourselves."
The passive-solar house is positioned to absorb winter sunlight, warming the interior walkways and walls of the residence. Geothermal heat pumps circulate water through pipes buried 300 feet (100 m) deep in the ground. A 25,000 US gallon (151 m³) underground cistern collects rainwater gathered from roof urns; wastewater from sinks, toilets, and showers cascades into underground purifying tanks and is also funneled into the cistern. The water from the cistern is then used to irrigate the landscaping around the home.
Other structures
In addition to the house there is a guest house and a garage in separate buildings to the southwest of the main house.
In 2002, the ranch was wired for what Bush described in a 2003 tour of the ranch as "real time, secure videoconferencing" to be used for his briefings from the CIA and Dick Cheney.
Overnight visitors stay in the main house, or its associated guest house, or the original Englebrecht farmhouse, or in a double-wide five-bedroom three-bath mobile home, decorated in an early Pottery Barn motif according to a staffer.
News reporters, including the White House Press Secretary, stay in hotels in Waco.
Grounds
President Bush and Lance Armstrong on grounds in 2005 The land includes seven canyons and three miles (5 km) of frontage along Rainey Creek and the Middle Bosque River. In August 2001 while touring the canyons with reporters Bush noted that the cedars in the canyons would be a good nesting ground for the endangered golden-cheeked warbler although the warblers have not actually been seen on the compound.[8]
Bush added an 11 acre (45,000 m²) man-made pond that he stocked with 600 largemouth bass and 30,000 bait fish. There are also bluegill and red ear sunfish. The pond has a maximum depth of 17 feet. In May 2006 in a question to what the best moment in his administration, Bush was quoted: "I would say the best moment was when I caught a 7 ½-pound largemouth bass on my lake."
At the urging of his daughters, the President has also built a large swimming pool over the objections of Heymann who thought it would interrupt the stark views. President Bush calls it "the whining pool" — whine long enough and you get it.
Im a Bad Girl
01-30-2008, 05:50 AM
And your story is a lie: I'm ashamed of you hdmarketing, I thought you were different than what other people claimed.
http://greytheory.blogspot.com/2007/10/neocon-inconvenient-truth-of-bush-and.html
Sunday, October 28, 2007
Neocon "Inconvenient Truth" of Bush and Gore Homes Full of Lies
I received an email, which has been whipping around the internet, showing pictures of George Bush’s modest, energy efficient, home in Crawford, Texas and Al Gore’s expansive, power gobbling, home in Tennessee. The basic premise of the email was true, but its creator just couldn’t keep from lying.
Al Gore’s home and business office uses a great deal of electricity. It recently ran a bill for electricity and natural gas of $2,400 in one month. Meanwhile Bush’s “home” is heated and cooled using a geothermal heat pump system. After this, the analysis and truth simply falls apart.
The email had two pictures, the top picture was Gore’s mansion and picture below it was Bush’s “home." Unfortunately, even these photographs were a sham.
Thru a simple google.com search, I found real photos of Al Gore's home and business and George Bush's vaction house. The white house is Al Gore's home and office in Nashville. The ranch struture is George Bush's vacation house in Crawford.
Gore home and business:
http://bp1.blogger.com/_pmSFgorJC0g/RyUPfzZr6KI/AAAAAAAAAAs/9m4oyZaUDdA/s320/GoreHouse.bmp
Bush's "home"
http://bp1.blogger.com/_pmSFgorJC0g/RyUQbzZr6LI/AAAAAAAAAA0/UUI09LbgvYs/s320/BushHouse1.bmp
The green house is 4,000 sqft? Not likely. And, notice the large electric air-cooled air conditioner next to it? The green house is actually the original house at the ranch and is only used as a guest house.
The ranch house is only one of several buildings at the Bush "complex." Notice what a lovely day it was when the inner group took a stroll around the ranch house?
Bush has never made this place his home. He had it designed and built, starting in 1998, when he was already living in the governor's mansion in Austin. This "home" is a vacation spot, that's all. This house is NOT the residence of the President of the United States, and it never has been.
Wikipedia says architect David Heymann was hired to design a limestone house for the ranch.
I want to stay in touch with real Americans," said the President to a crowd of Crawford residents shortly after the 2001 inaugural ceremonies. As the locals knew, the President and the First Lady had already put those plans in motion several years earlier by purchasing a spread in the heart of "real America" during his second term as governor of Texas. Flush with a $14.9-million profit from the sale of the Texas Rangers in 1998, the couple had set out in search of a retreat within easy driving distance of the Governor's Mansion in Austin. When the Bushes came across a 1,550-acre tract 20 miles west of Waco just outside the town of Crawford (population 701), they took a second look.
Gore's power use:
Al Gore's home does use a great deal of power, but why?
1. Nashville is fairly cold in the winter and very humid during the summer. A majority of the cost for air-conditioning in the east is dehumidifying, not cooling,
2. Being an international business, Gore's offices have a high computer cooling load, and
3. Gore occupies his home year-round.
Comparing a power bill of $2,400 for a 10,000 sqft office and home to the average single family home is comparing apples and oranges.
Bush's power use:
The email completely fails to address Bush's power use, but (having designed air conditioning systems for 15 years) we can make some simple inferences:
1. While hot, Crawford is not humid during the summer. If Bush's ranch were in the east, a geothermal heat pump would not be sufficient to keep it cool in the summer.
2. Geothermal heat pump systems use inefficient compressors to transfer heat between a building and a heat sink. The compressor is the major energy hog in a heat pump system. All Bush is saving is the cost of running a boiler or cooling tower.
3. Bush is only at the house for a week or two at a time; not even enough time to run up a representative monthly electricity bill. How much electricity does he and his entourage use while at the Crawford ranch?
4. Why is there no mention of the power consumption of the green house?
Despite the lies and misinformation, a more interesting question remains: By allowing his architect to design an eco-friendly vacation house, at great cost, isn't the President agreeing with the Nobel Prize winner that environmentalism makes for good economics?
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Im a Bad Girl
01-30-2008, 06:04 AM
President Bush's Crawford ranch retreat (http://austin.about.com/cs/bushbiographies/a/crawford_ranch.htm)
Washington D.C. and NBC may have The West Wing, but Crawford has the Prairie Chapel Ranch now being called alternately the "Texas White House" or the "Western White House." First Lady Laura Bush spent several weeks after the inauguration readying the ranch for its new role as the Presidential retreat away from the Oval Office. President Bush has said "...when I'm not in Washington, there's a pretty good chance you'll find me on our place in Crawford, Texas."
George W. and Laura Bush purchased around 1600 acres just outside of Crawford in 1999. Located 18 miles southwest of Waco, Crawford is about 90 miles north of Austin and convenient to Fort Hood for those flights in on Air Force One. The ranch itself, eight miles northwest of Crawford, is in an area known as Prairie Chapel.
The ranch property includes a creek, canyon, waterfalls, and meadows where cattle and deer graze. The Bush family renovated an existing farmhouse and built a new home there. As an avid fisherman Bush added a private fishing lake stocked with bass. However, the curious trekking out to the ranch won't see any of that. From the road there's only pastures, barbed wire fences, and signs that warn "No stopping. No standing. No parking on right of way." You might, however, meet up with a few Secret Service agents near the ranch and in town.
The Changing Face of Crawford
The home page of Crawford, Texas leaves no doubt about the identity of the most famous of their 631 residents. Although not a lifelong resident, and not full-time, the town of Crawford welcomes the Bush family. The Crawford High School Band set-up along the parade route on Inauguration Day and the Crawford Boy Scouts Troop were on a float in the parade. On February 17, 2001, about half the town in this traditionally Democratic area turned out for Crawford's Inaugural Ball to honor the Republican President and First Lady. The Crawford Community Center only holds around 350 people or there would have been more.
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hdmarketing
01-30-2008, 08:21 AM
And your story is a lie: I'm ashamed of you hdmarketing, I thought you were different than what other people claimed.
http://greytheory.blogspot.com/2007/10/neocon-inconvenient-truth-of-bush-and.html
And you are going to call me a liar based on a "Liberal" left wing blog?
I thought you were diffrent Lady Mod!
Guess NOT!
hdmarketing
01-30-2008, 08:31 AM
Furthermore:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/gorehome.asp
According to USA Today:
Gore isn't quite as green as he's led the world to believe
Public records reveal that as Gore lectures Americans on excessive consumption, he and his wife Tipper live in two properties: a 10,000-square-foot, 20-room, eight-bathroom home in Nashville, and a 4,000-square-foot home in Arlington, Va. (He also has a third home in Carthage, Tenn.) For someone rallying the planet to pursue a path of extreme personal sacrifice, Gore requires little from himself.
Ohhh and by the way Lady Mod, That first house, I Really IS Gore's HOME!
The One YOU posted was was his Arlington VA Home!
Get your facts straight before you run off calling me a LIAR.
LIAR!
Im a Bad Girl
01-30-2008, 06:39 PM
And you are going to call me a liar based on a "Liberal" left wing blog?
I thought you were diffrent Lady Mod!
Guess NOT!
I didn't say you were a liar, but that the information was a lie.
Are you prone to posting gossip as fact?
And I'm not Lady Mod. Unless she can be in two states at once. I live in Pennsylvania.
I'm sorry to disapoint you.
Im a Bad Girl
01-30-2008, 06:42 PM
Furthermore:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/gorehome.asp
According to USA Today:
Gore isn't quite as green as he's led the world to believe
Ohhh and by the way Lady Mod, That first house, I Really IS Gore's HOME!
The One YOU posted was was his Arlington VA Home!
Get your facts straight before you run off calling me a LIAR.
LIAR!
Didn't I read somewhere that you were talking about your home in the Bahamas or something like that? I guess that is the sign of a successful person, right? Even though you didn't like Lady Mod making fun of the fake deer in the front yard.
Yes, I know how to check people's old posts too.
And before you call someone a LIAR you are the one who posted Bush living in a shack which was a lie.
Notice that the email you call fact has not said what the President's electric bills are? If he is so thrifty, I wonder why that is?
hdmarketing
01-30-2008, 07:33 PM
Didn't I read somewhere that you were talking about your home in the Bahamas or something like that?
It's a beach house in Panama.
I guess that is the sign of a successful person, right? Even though you didn't like Lady Mod making fun of the fake deer in the front yard.
The more you post, the more I say you are Lady Mod!
You talk exactly like her personality.
Coincendence?
Maybe, maybe not.
And before you call someone a LIAR you are the one who posted Bush living in a shack which was a lie.
NO I did NOT post he was living in a shcak, I hardly call a 4 thousand sq ft home a shack.
It's actually a very nice home, in fact it's a mansion!
But it's a hell of a lot greener then Gore the Whore's house will ever be.
Notice that the email you call fact has not said what the President's electric bills are? If he is so thrifty, I wonder why that is?
Bt it did go into detail about what the homes features.
Im a Bad Girl
01-30-2008, 08:41 PM
It's a beach house in Panama.
I knew it was on an ocean somewhere.
The more you post, the more I say you are Lady Mod!
You talk exactly like her personality.
Coincendence?
Maybe, maybe not.
Oh, is she also a dancer or did she go to college too? What is wrong with people here? You are so ready to jump down a person's throat without any proof but you say that's what people here do to you and it makes you mad. I thought you weren't suppose to be a hypocrite?
When did two wrongs suddenly make a right?
I'm real sorry I ever joined this place. I didn't know people here were so stupid and just looking for fights.
NO I did NOT post he was living in a shcak, I hardly call a 4 thousand sq ft home a shack.
It's actually a very nice home, in fact it's a mansion!
But it's a hell of a lot greener then Gore the Whore's house will ever be.
Bt it did go into detail about what the homes features.
The picture of his house in your post doesn't look like a mansion, even a small one hdmarketing. It looks like a shack.
He grew up in Texas, Bush better have an energy efficient house, the ranch is out in the sticks.
And bless his little heart, he ties up most of his interests in oil and gas. Could be WHY he started that war in Iraq. Hey.
"When Bush was running for Governor in Texas, he listed numerous "real
property" interests on his disclosure statements.
His residence at the time was on Northwood Road in Dallas and (from
what I can tell) was owned by George and Laura Bush. But in later
years, it no longer appears on their list of holdings.
He also listed a number of other property interests, but none that
were residences of any kind. For instance, he had a number of Oil &
Gas lease properties, as well as something called an "undivided
surface interest"."
I bet he is hiding other houses in a trust or corporation. So, of course HE wouldn't own them the trust or corporation would. :rolleyes:
I don't know why you are jealous of Gore when George Bush doesn't seem to be? It's not like Gore paid anyone to award him that Nobel Prize. And he isn't even running for president.
Hahaha....
Im a Bad Girl
01-30-2008, 08:44 PM
I have to go to work, I'll talk to some other time.
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