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Moby
01-28-2008, 02:32 PM
Since our economy for the past few years has been based on home sales this is more staggering then you might think.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080128/ap_on_bi_go_ec_fi/economy_15
By MARTIN CRUTSINGER, AP Economics Writer
2 hours, 45 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Sales of new homes plunged by a record amount in 2007 while prices posted the weakest showing in 16 years, demonstrating the troubles builders are facing with a huge backlog of unsold homes.

The Commerce Department reported Monday that sales of new homes dropped by 26.4 percent last year to 774,000. That marked the worst sales year on record, surpassing the old mark of a 23.1 percent plunge in 1980.

The government reported that the median price of a new home barely budged last year, edging up a slight 0.2 percent to $246,900, the poorest showing since prices fell by 2.4 percent during the 1991 housing downturn.

The new report reinforced the view that housing is currently undergoing its worst downturn in more than two decades, with the slump threatening to surpass in some ways the severe housing recession of the early 1980s.

The housing weakness has dragged down overall growth and sent shockwaves through the rest of the economy including the financial sector, which is dealing with billions of dollars in losses in subprime mortgages. Some analysts are worried that the fallout could become so severe it will drag the entire country into a recession.

The Federal Reserve unexpectedly cut a key interest rate by the largest amount in more than two decades last week following an emergency meeting, and it is expected the Fed will cut rates further at a regular rate-setting meeting this week.

The 26.4 percent drop in sales for 2007 represented weakness in every part of the country except the Northeast, where sales posted a small 1.6 percent advance. Sales recorded declines of 32.2 percent in the West, 26.7 percent in the Midwest and 26.3 percent in the South.

The year ended on a weak note with new home sales in December falling by 4.7 percent after an even sharper 12.6 percent decline in November.

While the median home price for the entire year was up slightly, the median price of homes sold in December was $219,200. That was down 10.4 percent from a year ago, the biggest 12-month price drop in 37 years.

Analysts said that prices will likely keep falling in early 2008 as builders continue to struggle to work down the glut of homes.

It would take 9.6 months to eliminate the backlog of unsold new homes at the December sales pace, the longest stretch of time since the month's supply stood at 10.3 months in October 1981.

The severe credit crunch that hit in August has made the troubles in housing worse because it has prompted banks and other lenders to tighten their standards, making it harder for prospective buyers to qualify for loans. Also adding to the problems facing prospective sellers is the rising tide of mortgage defaults, which are dumping more homes on an already glutted market.

The big fall in new home sales followed earlier reports that sales of existing homes fell by 13 percent in 2007, the biggest drop since 1982, while construction of new homes dropped by 24.8 percent last year, the biggest fall since a record decline in 1980.

mwillman
01-28-2008, 03:05 PM
As much as its going to hurt, I'm happy to see the fall in the housing market. It was getting rediculous. Housing has been way over priced for a while and the financial companies have been playing foot loss with loans for to long.

Cat slave
01-28-2008, 09:33 PM
It couldnt keep setting records. Nothing does. Wonder why this is a surprise?

disrupter
01-28-2008, 09:53 PM
To think of all these recent housing units being built without addressing being green & global warming is so stupid, so wrong.

While the housing market is slow let's try to get the whole industry to be vastly more green. Create energy efficient designs, that maximize passive solar.
While we're at it lets invest some more money in researching new green energy, design efficiency which would also be an economic stimulant.

Let's at least fake not being brain-dead for a change.

Frankg
01-28-2008, 10:08 PM
Since our economy for the past few years has been based on home sales this is more staggering then you might think.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080128/ap_on_bi_go_ec_fi/economy_15

Ok ....so what's your point ?

Moby
01-29-2008, 01:47 AM
What economic sector in the USA has grown these past few years? The USDA is taking credit for creating for creating 15% of the job growth in low end sectors. Another 5% or so is in Iraq and the homeland security then there's probably another 5% in the massive increase in earmarks.

When you remove the socialist jobs that Bush created, all the money that was printed and washed in the housing market, compare the NASDAQ with inflation and the international value of the dollar and you have the worst economy in your life Frank.

And everyone that voted for Bush should have seen it coming. Even now that people see the results will they face reality?

Frank, your savior has sold you down the river.

Bill
01-29-2008, 04:16 AM
The 60 minutes segment on the mortgage crisis was pretty good.

The general summary is that this housing problem is going to go on for a while more yet - several years more at least, possibly many years.

One of the subthemes was that so many people have decided, and are deciding, to give the houses back to the bank, and get out from under an upside down mortage, where the value of the house is much less than the value of the mortgage, with no hope that the value of the house will go up to meet the mortgage for many years.

So, it makes more sense to default and let your credit take the hit, than pay the bank a hundred thousand more than the house will ever be worth.

Binky
05-04-2008, 04:06 PM
As much as its going to hurt, I'm happy to see the fall in the housing market. It was getting rediculous. Housing has been way over priced for a while and the financial companies have been playing foot loss with loans for to long.



It pains me to say this, but I have to agree. It's a shame that once again, we have to attribute this to pure and simple greediness. Greed for higher interest rates. Greed for higher prices on homes making for a higher level of profits for the owners. Greed, greed, greed. One of the seven deadly sins. Well, I hope the greedier ones are happy now.

Cat slave
05-05-2008, 02:16 AM
The borrowers also share the blame for this debacle. Everything is in writing
and its our responsibility to know what we are signing. And its not a "right"
to get a loan....what happened to qualifying????????????? A down payment?
Guess it does all fall under "greed", but it isnt just the fault of the bank, the
builders or agents...the mortgage holders also screwed up, big time.

disrupter
05-05-2008, 04:53 AM
It was probably a concurance of several things.
Free roaming cash, blanketing the globe looking for easy 'guaranteed' profits.
Third party loan originators with no skin in the game, either financially or held to account by any regulation what-so-ever.
Such a prolonged economic expansion that people had completely discarded the idea of a 'business cycle' all together.
The absurd notion that capitalism should have no regulation what-so-ever.
Greed, stupidity, naivety, lack of regulation, flat out criminality & bad timing all have a part in this.

Moby
05-05-2008, 08:51 AM
The borrowers also share the blame for this debacle. Everything is in writing
and its our responsibility to know what we are signing. And its not a "right"
to get a loan....what happened to qualifying????????????? A down payment?
Guess it does all fall under "greed", but it isnt just the fault of the bank, the
builders or agents...the mortgage holders also screwed up, big time.
Absolutely.

When people become addicted to drugs and destroy their lives the drug user has to take blame. However, the major drug growers, the dealers and the pushers on the street also need to take blame.

In this home crisis many people want to put all the blame one segment, the borrower or the government but they're both to blame and in a very big way.

What strikes me as strange is that no one questions when the administration decides to bail out the investors (Bear Strearns) in the middle of the night. If we can give the investors $30 Billion in loans why can't we guarantee $30 Billion for the borrowers?

What makes one right and one wrong?

Binky
05-05-2008, 10:02 AM
Absolutely.

When people become addicted to drugs and destroy their lives the drug user has to take blame. However, the major drug growers, the dealers and the pushers on the street also need to take blame.

In this home crisis many people want to put all the blame one segment, the borrower or the government but they're both to blame and in a very big way.

What strikes me as strange is that no one questions when the administration decides to bail out the investors (Bear Strearns) in the middle of the night. If we can give the investors $30 Billion in loans why can't we guarantee $30 Billion for the borrowers?

What makes one right and one wrong?


Yep, all of you are right on this one. It's a combination of things. And then you also have those borrowers that are running off to the casino losing their mortgage money. Sorry, folks, an oversight on my part. It's just really sad that things have come to this.

As for why the government hasn't stepped in and given homeowners that kind of cash for bailouts is one I can't answer. I just don't know. The best thing I can come up with is that the government would rather throw it's money away on a huge corporation rather than helping the people save their homes. Maybe it wants us to have a lot of foreclosures where peoples lives are in upheavel. I don't know and can't speak for it. Either way, it stinks! And I'm sorry to say that history is repeating itself.