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Smurf-Herder
01-27-2008, 01:01 PM
Bill Clinton: John McCain and Hillary are 'very close'
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/25/bill-clinton-john-mccain-and-hillary-are-very-close/
Independent Harry
01-27-2008, 04:36 PM
I would rather see McCain get the nod if Ron Paul didn't make it. McCain seems to at least have the best interest in his mind for the country, not the corporations. Even though he wants to stay in Iraq.
Moby
01-27-2008, 04:38 PM
Why would we be screwed?
Smurf-Herder
01-27-2008, 06:12 PM
Why would we be screwed?

They appear to be two sides of the same coin - same old Washington. Similar views on some issues as well. Although pinning down Hillary is hard and McCain is pretty hypocritical - both with hot tempers. And they're friends, no less. How weird.
Smurf-Herder
01-27-2008, 06:14 PM
I would rather see McCain get the nod if Ron Paul didn't make it. McCain seems to at least have the best interest in his mind for the country, not the corporations. Even though he wants to stay in Iraq.

McCain was behind the border security sell-out bill. Don't confuse what he says with what he actually intends.
Moby
01-28-2008, 01:42 AM
But they both want very different things then the PNAC. That means the odds are pretty good we'll get a better economy and hopefully fiscal conservatism again.

They're actually both very different then the Neocons. Sure McCain is talking the talk right now but he's done a much better job in the past.
Cat slave
01-28-2008, 09:35 PM
I will NOT vote for McCain. If hes the candidate Ill either sit this one out or
vote for Obama! My old party needs its clock cleaned!
KrisW
02-02-2008, 02:56 PM
If Romney and Hillary are the big two, THEN we're all screwed.
Dale escondido
02-02-2008, 03:13 PM
You got Hillary Obama ticket against Mccain and a heavy hitter conservative from the south. Mitts gone after super tuesday.
KrisW
02-02-2008, 03:34 PM
If Obama runs as Hillary's VP, he loses all his credibility with his "politics of change" message.
Dale escondido
02-02-2008, 03:39 PM
He will promote himself as staying on track .
This is much better done from a posistion of strength than weakness.
He will see Hillary as not as far of as he thought. You can always pull this post later and post for a laugh if I am so wrong.
KrisW
02-02-2008, 03:46 PM
There has been simply too much 'race-baiting' by the Clinton's to make Obama look legit if he accepts VP under Hillary.
Dale escondido
02-02-2008, 04:03 PM
It just our opinions you could be right. Time will tell.
I do see Hillary and Obama as unstoppable, although the gop has nothing to offer anyway. If your a conservate you like Romney or at least where he is now, Huckabee is bright and funny but his past wont let him in as a republican. Mccain is Hillary in drag.
KrisW
02-02-2008, 04:10 PM
Obama runs the risk of looking like 'Uncle Tom" if he runs as Hillary's VP.
Dale escondido
02-02-2008, 04:13 PM
God I hope we are past that point.
KrisW
02-02-2008, 04:16 PM
Slick Willie proved we weren't when he mentioned how Jesse Jackson won South Carolina.
KrisW
02-02-2008, 04:17 PM
Besides...according to you the "whole game is rigged".
Dale escondido
02-02-2008, 04:32 PM
If you dont see the rig, let me ask you this.
I see many motivated and certainly more intelligent people than me on this site alone.
If we all got together and tryed to get someone we all admired into office what would be the chance.
Even if we raised the money and paid the election commitee their fees.
I see a maze that only pros can navigate. They must appease government and business lobbist or they will be stomped at the gate.
Am I so wrong on this also?
Little Red Dog
02-02-2008, 04:39 PM
God I hope we are past that point.

We're past that point. At least the Democrats are. I don't know about Repugthugs.
Dale escondido
02-02-2008, 04:50 PM
I think I am republican, it hard to tell anymore.
But anyone so unevolved as to be a bigot is an embarrassment to us all.
Little Red Dog
02-02-2008, 04:53 PM
Moderate Repubs, certainly. Repugthugs are anybody's guess.
Cat slave
02-03-2008, 03:47 AM
Pubs and conservatives are no longer interchangeable terms IMO.
Dale escondido
02-03-2008, 10:27 AM
Pubs and conservatives are no longer interchangeable terms IMO.

ABSOLUTELY, although pure conservative or pure liberal thought is for the wackos.
hdmarketing
02-03-2008, 10:31 AM
But they both want very different things then the PNAC. That means the odds are pretty good we'll get a better economy and hopefully fiscal conservatism again.

They're actually both very different then the Neocons. Sure McCain is talking the talk right now but he's done a much better job in the past.

Yea Bill, remember the last time we had a Democrap President, and Congress.

We damn near lost the country!

Hell, lets just do it again!!!!
Moby
02-03-2008, 10:35 AM
Yea Bill, remember the last time we had a Democrap President, and Congress.

We damn near lost the country!

Hell, lets just do it again!!!!
What was so bad about the last time?

Median income rose 15% instead of dropping.
Fewer people lost homes.
We created more jobs.
We had fewer illegals here.
9/11 didn't happen then.
Health care was 1/2 the price.
Gasoline was 60% lower.
There was no war.

Damn, things were really terrible back then.
Moby
02-03-2008, 10:37 AM
Pubs and conservatives are no longer interchangeable terms IMO.
You're right. They haven't been for well over a decade.
KrisW
02-04-2008, 01:00 AM
Bill Clinton's diddling led to 9/11
Smurf-Herder
02-04-2008, 06:51 PM
Bill Clinton's diddling led to 9/11

No ....... it led to the first WTC attack, two African Embassy bombings, the Kobar Towers attack, the USS Cole bombing - and then 911.