There Will Be Blood

[Americanadian]

There Will Be Blood
By CHRIS FLOYD

But No Justice for Iraq Atrocities

The headline in last Friday's Washington Post says it all: "No Murder Charges Filed in Haditha Case."

Two years ago, a group of Marines killed 24 Iraqi civilians -- including women and children cowering in their own homes -- in a revenge rampage in Haditha. Once the story emerged from the usual layers of lies and cover-up, the atrocity flared briefly on the public stage, and eight of the Marines and their officers were charged "with murder or failing to investigate an apparent war crime," as the Post reports. But public attention moved swiftly on, and over the past few months, the Pentagon's "military justice" system has quietly reduced or dropped charges against most of the men. Yesterday's announcement signaled the final climb-down in the case, leaving only a single Marine, Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich, facing a charge of voluntary manslaughter, and lesser charges against one other enlisted man and two officers.

Two dozen civilians slaughtered, as confirmed by the Pentagon itself -- and yet there was no murder. Indeed, Brian Rooney, the lawyer for one of the officer charged with failing to investigate the killings, now says "it's clear now that no massacre occurred, yet this legal fiction is moving forward." Twenty-four actual, physical dead bodies in the ground -- yet the incident was a "legal fiction" -- "no massacre occurred."

The Pentagon has decided that the beserkers who killed two dozen innocent civilians were essentially following the accepted rules of engagement for U.S. forces in Iraq -- a revealing fact in itself. As the Post notes:

Investigating officers in the cases have recommended lesser charges because they have found that the Marines determined the houses were hostile and believed they could kill everyone inside, more likely a case of recklessness than intent to commit a crime.

Even the indictment of Wuterich contains mitigating circumstances in the charge itself, which, the Post notes, alleges "that he had an intent to kill and that his actions inside a residential home and on a residential street in November 2005 amounted to unlawful killing 'in the heat of sudden passion caused by adequate provocation.'"

"Adequate provocation" to kill twenty-four unarmed civilians in cold blood -- or rather, as the indictment terms it, in hot blood, "the heat of sudden passion."

There is little I can say about this case beyond what I first wrote about it in 2006 in a piece called "The Line of Atrocity: From the White House to Haditha."

"Many observers have compared the methodical murder of 24 innocent civilians by U.S. Marines in the Iraqi town of Haditha * now confirmed by Pentagon and Congressional sources * to the infamous My Lai massacre in Vietnam, when American troops slaughtered hundreds of civilians in a bloody rampage. But this is a false equation, one that gravely distorts the overall reality of the Coalition effort in Iraq.

"For it is not the small-scale Haditha atrocity that should be compared to My Lai: it is the entire Iraq War itself. The whole operation * from its inception in high-level mendacity to its execution in blood-soaked arrogance, folly, greed and incompetence * is a war crime of almost unfathomable proportions: a My Lai writ large, a My Lai every single day, year after year after year.

"....Photos taken afterwards by U.S. military intelligence document the carnage [at Haditha]. 'One portrays an Iraqi mother and young child, kneeling on the floor, as if in prayer,' the Sunday Times reports. 'They have been shot dead at close range. The pictures show other victims, shot execution-style in the head and chest in their homes.' The victims 'included a 76-year-old amputee and a four-year-old boy,' the Observer reports. "In one house an entire family, including seven children, were attacked with guns and grenades. Only a 13-year-old girl survived.' A U.S. government official told the Sunday Times that the attackers had 'suffered a total breakdown in morality and leadership.'

"Take special note of that last statement: it may be the first time that a Bush Administration spokesman has ever told the truth about the war. There has indeed been a "total breakdown in morality and leadership" in Iraq; but it's not confined to the Haditha killers. They are just the inevitable end product of the culture of lawlessness, brutality, and aggression deliberately manufactured by the White House to serve its predatory geopolitical ambitions and its dirty war-profiteering schemes.

"This fish has rotted from the head, and the corruption has eaten through the entire body politic. It was bound to find its most extreme manifestations in those whom Bush has armed with lies * a majority of U.S. soldiers believe that Iraq was involved in 9/11, polls show * and sent off to kill and be killed in an illegal war of aggression based on knowingly false and tricked-up evidence. If atrocity is the foundation of your enterprise, if atrocity is the atmosphere you breathe, why then, you are bound to produce atrocities, over and over, despite the many individual soldiers and honorable officers who struggle against the infected tide.

"These massacres aren't just momentary outbursts of revenging anger; they're learned behavior. The Marines who killed at Haditha were veterans of the much larger atrocity at Fallujah the year before. There they took part in one of the most savage demolitions of a city since World War II. Eight weeks of relentless bombing was followed by a cut-off of the city's water, electricity and food supplies. a clear war crime under the Geneva Conventions. More than two-thirds of the city's residents, some 200,000 people, fled the coming inferno, refugees in their own land. Those who remained were considered fair game in the house-by-house ravaging that followed. Among the Americans' first targets were the city's hospitals and clinics, as U.S. officers freely admitted to the New York Times: another blatant war crime. They were destroyed or shut down, with medical staff killed or imprisoned, to prevent bad publicity about civilian casualties from reaching the outside world, the officers said. Later, an investigation by the U.S.-backed Iraqi government found credible evidence of the use of chemical weapons against the city; yet another war crime. Up to 6,000 people were killed in the attack, most of them civilians.

"The few hundred Fallujah-based insurgents who had been the ostensible target of the assault had escaped long before the onslaught began. Thus there was no real military purpose to the city's destruction, which had been ordered by the White House; it was instead an act of reprisal, a collective punishment against the Iraqi people as a whole, non-combatants included, for the armed resistance to the Coalition conquest. The Marines of Kilo Company simply took what they were taught by their eminently respectable superiors in Fallujah and applied it in Haditha.

"...Like Abu Ghraib, Haditha is not an aberration by a few 'bad apples' but the emblem of a wider, systemic crime, the natural fruit of an outlaw regime that has made aggressive war, torture, indefinite detention, 'extrajudicial killing,' rendition and concentration camps official national policy. This moral rot is Bush's true historical legacy."

It is also the historical legacy of every single public figure and presidential candidate who fails to stand up -- right now, today, and every single day-- and demand that this abomination come to an immediate end, and that its perpetrators face the full measure of justice for what they have done. Who gives a damn about Obama's "elevating rhetoric" or Hillary's "tough fight-back" in New Hampshire -- or any of the other soul-rotting bullshit of the presidential campaign -- when this innocent blood drenches us all, day after day after day? Moral insanity has gripped this nation -- and we are all of us, every single one, tainted and corrupted by it...and are passing it on to our children. Who will break this chain of madness? And where will we find mercy for these crimes?

Chris Floyd is an American journalist and frequent contributor to CounterPunch. He is the author of the book Empire Burlesque: High Crimes and Low Comedy in the Bush Imperium. He can be reached through his webistie: www.chris-floyd.com.

http://counterpunch.org/floyd01072008.html

[radioguy]

Hurray for AMERICA!!!!

[LadyMod at scam.com]

Interesting article AC.

Did you know that it's the attitudes of people like RG that's going to get America attacked again?

Do you think we could just put big red targets on their heads so that when it happens the enemy knows in advance who to shoot? Or maybe we can round them all up and put them behind fences in those camps we held the Japanese in during WW2?

Now there's an idea worthy of pondering. ;)

[Americanadian]

Hurray for AMERICA!!!!

Ah yes, hurray for the America which engages in Imperialist hegemony, installs puppet governments where it is able and endorses the use of torture and innumerous other juicy tidbits of depravity for your viewing pleasure.

Thanks for clarifying that you support and condone the use of evil and violence to achieve that which American hegemony endeavors to achieve. Both yourself and the current administration pose a serious threat to world peace and humanity as a whole. If you can honestly say America is justified in such incidents as the above article lists, then you are no better than the murderers who pulled the trigger. May you share their fate in hell.

[Smurf-Herder]

Ah yes, hurray for the America which engages in Imperialist hegemony, installs puppet governments where it is able and endorses the use of torture and innumerous other juicy tidbits of depravity for your viewing pleasure.

Thanks for clarifying that you support and condone the use of evil and violence to achieve that which American hegemony endeavors to achieve. Both yourself and the current administration pose a serious threat to world peace and humanity as a whole. If you can honestly say America is justified in such incidents as the above article lists, then you are no better than the murderers who pulled the trigger. May you share their fate in hell.

Just get the fuck out of my country, if you have so much against it.

[Americanadian]

Interesting article AC.

Did you know that it's the attitudes of people like RG that's going to get America attacked again?

Do you think we could just put big red targets on their heads so that when it happens the enemy knows in advance who to shoot? Or maybe we can round them all up and put them behind fences in those camps we held the Japanese in during WW2?

Now there's an idea worthy of pondering. ;)


Unfortunately, that is most likely true. His steroid toting accomplice, HD, is another shining example of what is wrong with some people in America.

I think we should send people like HD and RG over to a deserted island somewhere and leave a bunch of weapons and ammo. Then maybe they'd do us all a favor and eradicate each other.

It seriously appears to be a congenital chromosomal disorder of some kind with those two. It's truly baffling to witness their moral bankruptcy and lack of conscience.

[Americanadian]

Just get the fuck out of my country, if you have so much against it.


Are you joking? Or did you forget the smiley to indicate your sarcasm?

[Smurf-Herder]

Are you joking? Or did you forget the smiley to indicate your sarcasm?

You heard me.

[Moby]

You take a bunch of kids that have never left the farm, get them all hyped up through military training, put them into such a situation and who knows WTF can happen.

I sat on a plain next to a kid that was coming home from Iraq. He was in the first wave of soldiers and was finally coming home from a few weeks. He wasn't a bad guy. I think he was about 4th generation. He was told all his life that he was too stupid to be anything else. He talked about one day kids would be waving and asking for candy and the next they're be running around with machines guns and bombs on their backs. Of course the stories he was telling about the kids was false but he didn't know that.

I don't think he was a murderer but I could see him getting caught up in the tension of such a situation.

I know Vietnam Vet that got caught up in something like that. He never shot anyone but he felt some of his buddies did without cause. Although he understood it was the tension and the training.

You can't take kids with little life experience, teach them to kill and not expect this type of stuff to happen now and then.

It will happen but if I was on a jury I'd find it hard to call it flat out murder.

Besides, people are saying that having 650k dead is a terrible lie but 150k is OK.

[Cat slave]

Oh yes, whine, whine, whine. It is this horrible country that has made it possible for people like AC to voice his opinions. Just try it in some of those
countries you think we should feel so guilty about....they would soon quieten
your rhetoric.

Should America fall it will be the noisy ones who will be the first to go as they
will have served their purpose and be more trouble than they are worth to
whatever power finishes us off.

Yeah, unless you are imprisoned, in stocks or chained to a tree, you are free
to leave this dreadful country. Bah Bye.:p

[Americanadian]

You heard me.

Go fuck yourself then.

You've obviously chosen which side of the fence you stand on as well. There is no room for hegemonic warmongers if peace is to be attainable in this world. The last half of the 20th century saw America flex its Imperialist muscle and impose its agenda on anyone weak enough to permit it.

I subscribe to the notion that we are all part of humanity first. If one nation decides to impose their demands on another country, they are to be resisted. It's quite simple.

Then again, some people have a conscience while others are devoid of such a gift.

[Smurf-Herder]

Go fuck yourself then.

You've obviously chosen which side of the fence you stand on as well. There is no room for hegemonic warmongers if peace is to be attainable in this world. The last half of the 20th century saw America flex its Imperialist muscle and impose its agenda on anyone weak enough to permit it.

I subscribe to the notion that we are all part of humanity first. If one nation decides to impose their demands on another country, they are to be resisted. It's quite simple.

Then again, some people have a conscience while others are devoid of such a gift.

Just pick a direction and start walking.

[disrupter]

It is the complete lack of accountability & irresponsibility that is so deeply disturbing.

I had thought more highly of America & Americans.

Even cold-blooded sociopaths & psychopaths would have acted more scrupulously.
America has gone mad.

Even selfish, self-accountability would have behaved vastly better.
It is like we have lost touch with reality.
I guess that is why many people must believe in religion,
because they seem compelled to act irrationally & then to try to patch it all up with divine castings.

A complete logic meltdown.

[Americanadian]

Oh yes, whine, whine, whine. It is this horrible country that has made it possible for people like AC to voice his opinions. Just try it in some of those
countries you think we should feel so guilty about....they would soon quieten
your rhetoric.

Should America fall it will be the noisy ones who will be the first to go as they
will have served their purpose and be more trouble than they are worth to
whatever power finishes us off.

Yeah, unless you are imprisoned, in stocks or chained to a tree, you are free
to leave this dreadful country. Bah Bye.:p

If I were to live in a country where Freedom of Speech has been suspended, there are only two choices; speak out and be prepared to resist and fight to regain the freedom and liberty stolen from the people.

OR

Do what so many others are currently doing in America; kowtow to the current administration and the system. When Lies are peddled as truth, and hegemony is "justified" in the name of the War on Terror, and Justice is absent in the face of such criminal conduct after 7 years in office, America has already been defeated. Cowering in the corner awaiting the next boogeyman terrorist attack is those who put their faith and lives in the government's hand. The very same people you put your trust and faith in to protect your country and lives are the very ones betraying you.

The burden of debt fighting a war which can never be won is currently waging. When will people realize what is transpiring? When certain economic collapse is upon us? Then the little minions, currently dependent upon the 'system' for everything from shit wipe to fuel, to food and water, will be utterly helpless to sustain themselves in the wake of a complete societal breakdown. What ensues is anyone's guess.

While I hope this collapse never occurs, there are those who are much wiser than I who have predicted such a calmity to befall America. It is plausible and imminent especially when such complacency and ignorance is prevalent in America today.

[Americanadian]

Just pick a direction and start walking.

Typical smear tactic from a false patriot lemming. "Get out of the country if you don't like it".


You see Smurf, pointing out the government transgressions has nothing to do with the people who are helpless to change things without armed force. Essentially, the government does whichever it chooses. How will its constituents stop them?

It is actually comical to see your typical post. Good work!

[disrupter]

Snobbery & Elitism are based on the notion that something CAN be more rarified, better.

I think our rejection of 'elitism' might partly to blame.
In a sense it says all workings of all things are accessible, manageable, WITHOUT TRAINING, to anyone.

Most of us who don't do our own auto repairs want the 'elitism' of a trained auto mechanic, preferably one trained on our make of vehicle,
but for president & government we choose someone we could 'enjoy a beer with'?

I am not sure we want a completely specialized caste for government, but electing social dross is not a workable notion either.

[Smurf-Herder]

Typical smear tactic from a false patriot lemming. "Get out of the country if you don't like it".


You see Smurf, pointing out the government transgressions has nothing to do with the people who are helpless to change things without armed force. Essentially, the government does whichever it chooses. How will its constituents stop them?

It is actually comical to see your typical post. Good work!

Seriously!

People like you have nothing constructive to contribute. All you can do is complain; and embellish anything that is real to the most outlandish extremes. People like you embarrass rational Americans.

So get out, now!

And take your little avatar with the white power salute with you.

[disrupter]

Sometimes things are actually as bad as people say,
sometimes even worse.

At the very least a hundred thousand people are dead,
half a Trillion dollars spent already
on a war that was in fact baseless.

Whether or not you can justify or rationalize all that,
the scale, scope, magnitude & complete arrogant lack of accountability should send shivers to the depths of your bones & nerves.

Like eating something viciously poisonous it must be regurgitated before it is absorbed into the body politic's psyche, causing respiration & heart failure from its incredible toxicity.

America has eaten its own soul, & must retrieve it before it perishes.

[Smurf-Herder]

Like eating something viciously poisonous it must be regurgitated before it is absorbed into the body politic's psyche, causing respiration & heart failure from its incredible toxicity.




Yuck!

Now I'm definitely not having a snack before bed.

[Cat slave]

If I were to live in a country where Freedom of Speech has been suspended, there are only two choices; speak out and be prepared to resist and fight to regain the freedom and liberty stolen from the people.

OR

Do what so many others are currently doing in America; kowtow to the current administration and the system. When Lies are peddled as truth, and hegemony is "justified" in the name of the War on Terror, and Justice is absent in the face of such criminal conduct after 7 years in office, America has already been defeated. Cowering in the corner awaiting the next boogeyman terrorist attack is those who put their faith and lives in the government's hand. The very same people you put your trust and faith in to protect your country and lives are the very ones betraying you.

The burden of debt fighting a war which can never be won is currently waging. When will people realize what is transpiring? When certain economic collapse is upon us? Then the little minions, currently dependent upon the 'system' for everything from shit wipe to fuel, to food and water, will be utterly helpless to sustain themselves in the wake of a complete societal breakdown. What ensues is anyone's guess.

While I hope this collapse never occurs, there are those who are much wiser than I who have predicted such a calmity to befall America. It is plausible and imminent especially when such complacency and ignorance is prevalent in America today.

And when have I defended the status quo? I do defend the original planks
of the Republican party but is has mutated and no longer fits many of us.

And yes, one should speak up and often.

We have become a nation of entitlements of which few if any can be maintained.

But I love my country which is not the same as the governemnt and I
hope against hope that America will survive what this government has
become. And I take issue when anyone disses America and does not
differentiate between the two.

Yes, the ones who refuse to take personal responsibility for themselves
and cant walk and chew gum at the same time will be in world of hurt
in a catastrophe, natural or man made. We need to all be armed to protect
ourselves as that is all we will have...ourselves.

I live in a very rural area below the Wolf Creek Dam in KY. It is at great
risk of failing. At all the meetings with the corp no one has even mentioned
how "help" or anything else would be gotten to us should the worst happen.
We talk about how we could help each other and what we would need to do.
We, the people will take care of ourselves and I so appreciate having found
such a place to live and escaped from the cities which will descend into
chaos should the worse of many scenarios happen.

America has flaws but its still the best place in the world to live and Im so
glad I am here not somewhere else.

[Smurf-Herder]

And when have I defended the status quo? I do defend the original planks
of the Republican party but is has mutated and no longer fits many of us.

And yes, one should speak up and often.

We have become a nation of entitlements of which few if any can be maintained.

But I love my country which is not the same as the governemnt and I
hope against hope that America will survive what this government has
become. And I take issue when anyone disses America and does not
differentiate between the two.

Yes, the ones who refuse to take personal responsibility for themselves
and cant walk and chew gum at the same time will be in world of hurt
in a catastrophe, natural or man made. We need to all be armed to protect
ourselves as that is all we will have...ourselves.

I live in a very rural area below the Wolf Creek Dam in KY. It is at great
risk of failing. At all the meetings with the corp no one has even mentioned
how "help" or anything else would be gotten to us should the worst happen.
We talk about how we could help each other and what we would need to do.
We, the people will take care of ourselves and I so appreciate having found
such a place to live and escaped from the cities which will descend into
chaos should the worse of many scenarios happen.

America has flaws but its still the best place in the world to live and Im so
glad I am here not somewhere else.

ditto. :)

[Americanadian]

Seriously!

People like you have nothing constructive to contribute. All you can do is complain; and embellish anything that is real to the most outlandish extremes. People like you embarrass rational Americans.

So get out, now!

And take your little avatar with the white power salute with you.

Don't flatter yourself Smurf. There is nothing "rational" about a bunch of neanderthal, knuckle dragging simians pounding their chests whilst chanting they need to eradicate their enemy. Anyone who supports the wholesale destruction of Iran based on propaganda and speculation is by no means "rational". Since you support a pre-emptive strike against a nation which has been villified as a member of the "Axis of Evil", then you have flushed "rationality" down your toilet and instead embraced faulty intelligence, impulsive and emotional based irrationality, just like the Chimp-in-Chief.

Noone who copiously swallowed the insinuations and propaganda surrounding Iraq and its ties to Al Qaeda (despite the fact Iraq has never posed a serious threat to the United States of America EVER), can be considered "rational either Smurf. Not in 1991, nor in 2003 did Iraq pose a threat. Yet, the slavering right wing faction of America continue to tow the line supporting the absurd notion that Saddam did in fact have WMDs. Yet, he never once used them against the invading US forces. Yup! Such a "mad and brutal" dictator he was and he never launched his weapons against the people who were coming to kill him, LOL... A US sponsored dictator just like many others in the 20th century. Explanations abounded. Media stool samples burdened the news. Oh...there...over in Syria!! Syria has them. They were smuggled there in commercial planes with the seats removed. Nope! They were taken by truck at night. Ha...ha...ha....You don't even realize when you're being fucked and that's quite funny and sad simultaneously.

There isn't anything "constructive" to contribute because people such as myself are peace loving, easy going folks and most are reluctant to take up arms and resort to violence in order to purge the continent of evil corporate whores and corrupt politicians. Add that with the daunting task of rounding up all the stupid fucks like yourself who believe anything stamped and sealed by the government is Scripture Unfortunately, the day is drawing nigh when people will be forced to take up arms in order to defend what is truly right and not what is defined as "right" by the system and its government.

"Common sense" is a rare thing in America. Most people like yourself would much rather be spoon fed your "facts" from "credible" sources from the source of corruption itself. Blind obsequious faith placed in the very institution which orchestrates your future demise.

It's a good thing there are some people with "common sense" remaining in the world. If people with your mindset dominated the landscape then the simple concept of the "Wheel" would have never been invented. Your ilk would have burned him at the stake for attempting to develop any new technology that may be superior to your current novelties.

And FYI, the kid in my avatar is not doing a Nazi salute. You should adjust/clean your 'coke bottle' bifocals or clean the crusties out of your eyes before you start typing your excreta.

[Americanadian]

And when have I defended the status quo? I do defend the original planks
of the Republican party but is has mutated and no longer fits many of us.

And yes, one should speak up and often.

We have become a nation of entitlements of which few if any can be maintained.

But I love my country which is not the same as the governemnt and I
hope against hope that America will survive what this government has
become. And I take issue when anyone disses America and does not
differentiate between the two.

It is never the people of America who are to blame for American Foreign Policy other than not removing the corrupted politicians from power. The fiscal malfeasance and corruption which occurs unbeknownst to their constituents would be staggering to say the least. Both parties have corrupted themselves with greed.

The people were to maintain control, not the government. America was great, and can be once again. Now we are nothing more than reluctant and impotent to remove that which we know is corrupt. Organizing appears to be the great hurdle to overcome. Very few are willing to sacrifice and too many are dependent on the system for their survival. Until people can educate themselves how to survive on their own once again, independence will never be truly regained. It's hard work, trust me, but very rewarding to know that the system cannot control you once you get there.

Yes, the ones who refuse to take personal responsibility for themselves and cant walk and chew gum at the same time will be in world of hurt in a catastrophe, natural or man made. We need to all be armed to protect ourselves as that is all we will have...ourselves.

I live in a very rural area below the Wolf Creek Dam in KY. It is at great
risk of failing. At all the meetings with the corp no one has even mentioned
how "help" or anything else would be gotten to us should the worst happen.
We talk about how we could help each other and what we would need to do.
We, the people will take care of ourselves and I so appreciate having found
such a place to live and escaped from the cities which will descend into
chaos should the worse of many scenarios happen.

Ultimately, yes, we only have ourselves. I view police as a 'mop-up' crew. The crime or damage has already been done by the time they arrive. Much the same as other emergency crews. They can only "react" to a calamity. Prevention or awareness is integral with making preparations in order to avoid dire circumstances.


America has flaws but its still the best place in the world to live and Im so
glad I am here not somewhere else.

I have to agree. However, the ones we put our trust and faith in are the ones pissing away that which made America great to begin with. It all starts with the people. And currently, America is divided.

[disrupter]

Only a fool would fail to recognize simple good luck,
and claim it as self-validation & piss it all away, never to be recovered.

Intelligent people recognize good luck & guard & defend it & use it in measured, rational manner with a possible eye to parlay it into better luck.

[Smurf-Herder]

Don't flatter yourself Smurf. There is nothing "rational" about a bunch of neanderthal, knuckle dragging simians pounding their chests whilst chanting they need to eradicate their enemy. Anyone who supports the wholesale destruction of Iran based on propaganda and speculation is by no means "rational". Since you support a pre-emptive strike against a nation which has been villified as a member of the "Axis of Evil", then you have flushed "rationality" down your toilet and instead embraced faulty intelligence, impulsive and emotional based irrationality, just like the Chimp-in-Chief.

Noone who copiously swallowed the insinuations and propaganda surrounding Iraq and its ties to Al Qaeda (despite the fact Iraq has never posed a serious threat to the United States of America EVER), can be considered "rational either Smurf. Not in 1991, nor in 2003 did Iraq pose a threat. Yet, the slavering right wing faction of America continue to tow the line supporting the absurd notion that Saddam did in fact have WMDs. Yet, he never once used them against the invading US forces. Yup! Such a "mad and brutal" dictator he was and he never launched his weapons against the people who were coming to kill him, LOL... A US sponsored dictator just like many others in the 20th century. Explanations abounded. Media stool samples burdened the news. Oh...there...over in Syria!! Syria has them. They were smuggled there in commercial planes with the seats removed. Nope! They were taken by truck at night. Ha...ha...ha....You don't even realize when you're being fucked and that's quite funny and sad simultaneously.

There isn't anything "constructive" to contribute because people such as myself are peace loving, easy going folks and most are reluctant to take up arms and resort to violence in order to purge the continent of evil corporate whores and corrupt politicians. Add that with the daunting task of rounding up all the stupid fucks like yourself who believe anything stamped and sealed by the government is Scripture Unfortunately, the day is drawing nigh when people will be forced to take up arms in order to defend what is truly right and not what is defined as "right" by the system and its government.

"Common sense" is a rare thing in America. Most people like yourself would much rather be spoon fed your "facts" from "credible" sources from the source of corruption itself. Blind obsequious faith placed in the very institution which orchestrates your future demise.

It's a good thing there are some people with "common sense" remaining in the world. If people with your mindset dominated the landscape then the simple concept of the "Wheel" would have never been invented. Your ilk would have burned him at the stake for attempting to develop any new technology that may be superior to your current novelties.

And FYI, the kid in my avatar is not doing a Nazi salute. You should adjust/clean your 'coke bottle' bifocals or clean the crusties out of your eyes before you start typing your excreta.

I don't support a pre-emptive strike. I stated a couple times a while back what I would support.

So what is that kid in your avatar doing?

[Americanadian]

I don't support a pre-emptive strike. I stated a couple times a while back what I would support.

So what is that kid in your avatar doing?

Flippin' the bird.

Did you honestly think I would endorse the Nazis? They were employed to specifically create the downfall of Germany in the first place. The Nazis now are working on America.

[Smurf-Herder]

Flippin' the bird.



Hard to tell from the picture.

It could have been an extremely excruciating bowel movement for all we can tell.

All you really can be sure of is a balled up hand and a face full of painfull rage.

[Americanadian]

Hard to tell from the picture.

It could have been an extremely excruciating bowel movement for all we can tell.

All you really can be sure of is a balled up hand and a face full of painfull rage.

Well, many people gave the Nazi salute without the "face of painfull rage". In many cases, the Nazi salute merely signified conformity.