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SirMoby
01-07-2008, 08:28 AM
It's a nice thought and the right thing to do for the American people but too many people support their party no matter what their party does.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/06/AR2008010602402.html?nav=rss_email/components

By Jonathan Weisman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, January 7, 2008; Page A01

Exploiting a deep well of voter revulsion over partisan gridlock in Washington, Sen. Barack Obama is promising to do something that has not been done in modern U.S. politics: unite a coalition of Democrats, Republicans and independents behind an agenda of sweeping change.

But in pitching himself as a "post-partisan" politician, Obama (D-Ill.) is only the latest in a string of presidential candidates promising to remake Washington into a city that sings in unison. George W. Bush was to be a uniter, not a divider. Bill Clinton was going to put people first. Even Richard M. Nixon, on the day after the 1968 election, invoked a sign he had seen during the campaign that said, "Bring Us Together," and said that was the goal of his administration.

Washington, however, has a way of consigning such rhetorical hopes to the partisan waste bin.

"Words are not actions," Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton said Saturday night during a Democratic debate in New Hampshire, as she called for a "reality brake" on her rivals' rhetoric. "As beautifully presented and passionately felt as they are, they are not action."

"He believes he's a game-changer, but I don't believe the game has changed," said Rep. Tom Cole (Okla.), chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee, dismissing Obama's transformational pledges as naive. "It's captivating. It's intoxicating, but it's not going to last."

In Washington, bipartisanship for decades has been synonymous with compromise and incrementalism. When it has worked, both parties have sacrificed some elements of ideology for modest steps forward. The Clinton White House could not win passage of universal health care, so it settled for a federal-state partnership to insure the children of the working poor. The Republican "revolutionaries" of 1994 could not abolish a Cabinet agency, such as the Education Department, so they settled for slowing the growth rate of Medicare and abolishing Congress's Office of Technology Assessment.

Obama is promising something very different, what skeptics call an oxymoron: sweeping bipartisan change.

"I think the American people are hungry for something different and can be mobilized around big changes, not incremental changes, not small changes," Obama said Saturday night. "I think that there are a whole host of Republicans, and certainly independents, who have lost trust in their government, who don't believe anybody is listening to them, who are staggering under rising costs of health care, college education, don't believe what politicians say. And we can draw those independents and some Republicans into a working coalition, a working majority for change."

Republicans in Washington view Obama's "post-partisan" political appeal with a mixture of skepticism and fear. They are skeptical, they say, because the first-term senator's thin record has shown virtually no sign of bipartisanship. They are fearful because his appeal just might work.

"It's clear he is a phenomenon," said Rep. Patrick McHenry (R-N.C.), a conservative scrapper who revels in Washington's partisan warfare. "He will use style and grace to achieve liberal goals, which is absolutely politically brilliant but intellectually dishonest."

"Any new president is going to have a honeymoon period, and with his communication skills and the foundation that he appears to be wanting to lay -- 'Look, I'm above partisanship; I want to be everybody's president' -- I'm concerned he could push through some policy things that I fundamentally disagree with," said Rep. Jim McCrery (La.), the ranking Republican on the House Ways and Means Committee.

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Libraltarian
01-07-2008, 11:57 AM
With Bush in the high 20's and Congress barely into double digits, Obama's message has a built in audience. Amazing none of the Republicans thought about change and positioned themselves to run against Congress.

We already know Republicans aren't listening anyway.

GOP pretty much know they won't win in November. At the moment they are flirting with McCain, who they hope can keep the Dems below a 60 seat majority in the Senate and maybe hold the loss in the House at 20 seats or less.

Republicans are no longer playing to win. They are playing to stop the bleeding.

disrupter
01-07-2008, 02:14 PM
I wonder if the visual difference of him being black reinforces the idea that he is 'different'?

People are really pretty fed up.

I am not sure i want him to unite the Republicans & Democrats,

i would like him to UNITE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!

but not about external aggression either,
around a burst of innovative creativity, that is almost difficult to contain.

Little Red Dog
01-07-2008, 02:23 PM
I hate to say it, but Obama as the Dem nominee would be a bow-tied gift to the GOP.

If it's not going to be Clinton, it needs to be Edwards. Obama is unelectable in a general election.

What's more, the expectations for him right now are nothing short of messianic. NOBODY can deliver the kind of results in 4 years that people are expecting him to deliver. NOBODY is going to be able wave a magic wand on Capitol Hill and have everybody singing "Kumbya" in a group hug. Yet that is what people seem to think he's going to be able to do. He is set up for failure.

I have no problem with the audacity of hope. But it MUST be tempered with reality. And with Obama, that just isn't happening.

disrupter
01-07-2008, 03:57 PM
I don't know.
Isn't getting Americans re-engaged with their government important?

Right now we don't have a government as much as a alien organism in the body politic.

We need to crank up the immune system response & eject, reject & clean it up.

Libraltarian
01-07-2008, 06:30 PM
Obama is doing what's absent from politics since RFK. Remember '68 when Bobby toured Watts, now called South-Central L.A., with the top down. People mobbed him to shake his hand. RFK raised our hopes and challenged us to be our best. JFK did as well.

I have no doubt Obama can be elected. I'm more concerned some loon will assassinate him.

Little Red Dog
01-07-2008, 09:01 PM
Camelot died in the kitchen pantry of the Ambassador Hotel.

Look, to get anything done in Washington, you have to be able to effectively reach across the aisle. The only ones who have been able to forge anything remotely approaching a bi-partisan concord are Hillary and McCain. And they've both been thoroughly trounced for it.

The powerful Washington lobbies are not going to just quietly turn tail and slink out of town. They have too much invested and too much at stake.

Washington is a modern replica of 15th C palace politics. Complete with smiling traitors, backstabbings, and plots. And the alliances, back door meetings, and quid pro quos are not going to stop, regardless of WHO takes office.

The man is NOT sufficiently seasoned in Washington's dirty games to be able to carry out even 1/100 of his proposed agenda. They will slice, dice, and saute him before breakfast.

Electing Obama is a recipe for disappointment.

Ideally, we would have a choice who combines the optimism of Obama, and the experience of Clinton, Edwards, Guilani, or McCain. Unfortunately, that's not the case.