disrupter
12-16-2007, 01:07 AM
On Consciousness: Impressions
I have a sort of impression that consciousness is some kind of aggregate quorum/threshold where little independent constituents are somehow grouped, collected [forced?] into a quasi-coherent configuration/state.
Like some system of floating ping-pong balls in an active river where they are grasped, collected & held & at some point they reach some critical mass where the [weird?] state of consciousness is achieved.
Like collecting some gaseous constituent from the bloodstream & when there is some threshold quorum these independent elements are forced together into some [maybe monopolar?] unstable, dynamic coherency.
Perhaps achieving some kind electro-polar charge state?
Some scattered, dynamic, independent elements are somehow forced or balanced into a single [temporary] union. When this energy[resource?] using state has exhausted sustainability, then some release of sleep occurs where either recollection or recharge or something goes on until an other round/session of consciousness can be achieved.
I might even guess that in a healthy human [or other conscious creatures] that consciousness itself may be difficult to avoid almost. Obviously in comatose patients they no longer, for unknown reasons, seem to have the 'inevitable' aspects of the mechanism or system. Whether or not subtle intermittent coherencies still exist i will guess is variant from patient to patient & during different [intermittent?] intervals for each patient.
It just seems like some dynamic collective aggregation which sort of periodically is achievable, but for most people some re-charge period of sleep or rest is needed.
I might be interesting to examine people who need very little or no sleep & compare them to other more regular sleepers. Might be interesting to see if their [group] comparative states of consciousness are close to identical or if they might be slightly variant from one another.
I was also thinking that people who can go without sleep might be dynamically [real-time] gathering additional constituents of consciousness even as they loose some of them. Like a chain or aggregate, where as they loose them on one end they are real-time adding to them on the other.
Whereas people who need sleep either can't do this real-time accrual of constituents or at least not in sufficient quantity or speed to sustain consciousness.
Also i was wondering if the quality of sleep, its depth perhaps might cast a different color or quality to consciousness. ie. people can stay conscious over sustained periods, but perhaps the quality of consciousness is necessarily different [or not] from those who don't/can't.
I have a sort of impression that consciousness is some kind of aggregate quorum/threshold where little independent constituents are somehow grouped, collected [forced?] into a quasi-coherent configuration/state.
Like some system of floating ping-pong balls in an active river where they are grasped, collected & held & at some point they reach some critical mass where the [weird?] state of consciousness is achieved.
Like collecting some gaseous constituent from the bloodstream & when there is some threshold quorum these independent elements are forced together into some [maybe monopolar?] unstable, dynamic coherency.
Perhaps achieving some kind electro-polar charge state?
Some scattered, dynamic, independent elements are somehow forced or balanced into a single [temporary] union. When this energy[resource?] using state has exhausted sustainability, then some release of sleep occurs where either recollection or recharge or something goes on until an other round/session of consciousness can be achieved.
I might even guess that in a healthy human [or other conscious creatures] that consciousness itself may be difficult to avoid almost. Obviously in comatose patients they no longer, for unknown reasons, seem to have the 'inevitable' aspects of the mechanism or system. Whether or not subtle intermittent coherencies still exist i will guess is variant from patient to patient & during different [intermittent?] intervals for each patient.
It just seems like some dynamic collective aggregation which sort of periodically is achievable, but for most people some re-charge period of sleep or rest is needed.
I might be interesting to examine people who need very little or no sleep & compare them to other more regular sleepers. Might be interesting to see if their [group] comparative states of consciousness are close to identical or if they might be slightly variant from one another.
I was also thinking that people who can go without sleep might be dynamically [real-time] gathering additional constituents of consciousness even as they loose some of them. Like a chain or aggregate, where as they loose them on one end they are real-time adding to them on the other.
Whereas people who need sleep either can't do this real-time accrual of constituents or at least not in sufficient quantity or speed to sustain consciousness.
Also i was wondering if the quality of sleep, its depth perhaps might cast a different color or quality to consciousness. ie. people can stay conscious over sustained periods, but perhaps the quality of consciousness is necessarily different [or not] from those who don't/can't.