How Much Does Health Care Cost?

[Moby]

OK. A bunch of people in America don't have health insurance.

If they show up in an emergency room they get health care.

They end up not paying for that health care.

Those costs get passed onto to people that do pay.

The current system won't help someone go to the local doctor's office which cost about $100 - $150 but instead encourages them to go to the emergency room which costs about $300 to $800 and isn't going to get paid.

The medical companies need to recover the costs so they charge us paying people more money and our insurance rates go up.

Doesn't it seem to make sense that it's costing us more money in the long run by not providing people with health insurance?

[kres24GT]

Either healthcare should be declared a "right" and it should be socialized or it should be a personal responsibility and doctors should be able to refuse service.

The fascist mix we have now does not work. Adding even more big government to it will only make it worse. Forcing non government employees to provide services is wrong.

I prefer the personal responsibility method. But that's just me.

Many people choose not to have insurance, let them pay with their lives if need be.

[Lolli]

I lived in the UK for 5 years and experienced the National Health care System. It didn't work well there. The system we have in place here is not perfect, yet I have lived in several different countries and the system we have here grants the easiest access to medical care.

As I said, not perfect but those who say we should socialize it I disagree with as a solution and until another option seems viable and would improve on the current system, this is the best around.

:o

[Moby]

But most people on this board that have health insurance get it through their employer. Isn't that a form of socialism?

Remember, there are two separate issues here.

1. Health Insurance.
2. Health Care

Helping people get health insurance still gives is a few market health care system. Doctors can still charge whatever they want.

[Lolli]

ah, but an employer only offers the health insurance. We are not forced to take it nor pay for it.

:o

[kres24GT]

But most people on this board that have health insurance get it through their employer. Isn't that a form of socialism?

Remember, there are two separate issues here.

1. Health Insurance.
2. Health Care

Helping people get health insurance still gives is a few market health care system. Doctors can still charge whatever they want.


No thanks. Who gets it? If I make x dollars I get it, if I make X+1 I don't? How will you force people to get it? Many people who don't have ti now could, but choose not too. Too much confusion and government bureaucracy, plus another issue for the politcians use to pander on and use fear on. Either get government out or let them take it over.

Getting health insurance via an employer is a choice of the company, the insurance company, and the employee. Three people/entities making choices of their own free will is hardly socialism.

[Lolli]

exactly my point kres24GT!

All I'm saying is I really hope we never have to deal with a national health service the way I did in the UK. It was awful.

...also my best friend is from Canada and he is on a waiting list for a GP of his own. He has told me that his cat was able to have an MRI don't within a couple of hours when he was sick, yet he is having to wait a month for an MRI on his knee.

Don't think I would like that either

:o