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disrupter
12-02-2007, 01:54 PM
Not exactly reassuring, although i suppose this is the expected gradual decline in affairs between Turkey & northern Iraq.

And so it begins,

Turkey attacks PKK fighters in Iraq

Turkey's army has entered northern Iraq and launched attacks on Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) fighters, the Turkish army has said.

The military said on Saturday that it used artillery and air strikes on a group of between 50 and 60 Kurdish fighters inside Iraqi territory, southeast of the Turkish town of Cukurca in Hakkari province.

"As part of intelligence work, a group of 50-60 PKK terrorist group was spotted inside Iraq's borders," the army said on its website.

Four to six helicopters were sent to bomb a camp used by the PKK.

"An intense intervention was made on the group and it was detected that the terrorist group had suffered heavy casualties."

Special forces

A Turkish military official told Reuters news agency that around 100 special forces were also sent into northern Iraq.

However, a senior leader of the PKK in Iraq, near Turkey's border, denied that the Turkish army had attacked its fighters.

"Our area is quiet. Nothing has happened. There are no air strikes nor any artillery shells," the official told AFP news agency.

In the Iraqi Kurdish city of Arbil, Fuad Hussein, chief of staff for Massud Barzani, president of Iraq's Kurdish region, did not categorically confirm the strikes but said "it could be artillery shelling."

He said a ground assault by Turkish forces was unexpected given the "prevailing weather conditions."

At the political level, thousands of people on Saturday turned out to stage an anti-war rally in a Turkish town close to the Iraqi border.

Demonstrators chanted support for the PKK, and police responded by opening fire and arresting more than a dozen people.http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/55D77080-3987-4EEE-8CDD-7AC3B0D04CDD.htm

The PKK says nothing happened.
As the Shiite officials disallow oil deals made by Iraqi kurds in their region, but allows Shiite deals & this fracas with Turkey gets going the one stable region of Iraq, perhaps including some of southern Turkey, looks to decline into chaos.

the success of the surge is purchased by passing huge doles of cash to former sunni insurgents & ethnic cleansers.

Iraq is a warm powder keg ready to ignite. Since surge levels are unsustainable & only purchased by extending troop stays to unheard of lengths, Iraq is a lost cause.

IMO we should quickly, quietly pack bags & ship out while this instant of calm remains.

No more money or lives down the Iraq rat hole.

Moby
12-03-2007, 01:45 AM
The Kurds are the only people in Iraq that have supported us. Turkey is the only Muslim democracy in the region. It would be nice to have peace between these two but it won't happen.

I don't think we can offer military support to either side and this administration isn't known for it's brilliant diplomacy I think we're going to see a lot of trouble up there.

If a few Kurds are killed and China has a hard time getting the oil from the signed contracts that they have in hand we might have some interesting fireworks.