What do you think about internet Voting

[Tommy]

If ya think about it
it could be really nice, just pop on the internet enter an id or password and cast your vote

and most people still got the whole day off :-)

I know there would be a huge risk for hackers but I bank online,
millions of people do, if they can secure all that money I dont see why they cant make internet voting safe

[Mr. Blue]

I'd be a little nervous about it. I like the idea of having some "hard copy" type voting system where the results can be double checked (even if we have to deal with dangling chads).

[Kinky Jones]

the tubes might get clogged up and what if it takes like 2 days for the votes to arrive? :D


I wonder if cheney has an online-voting technology company we can hire to get the job done :thumbsup:

[Bill]

You would need something like a digital signature to make that work.

[juggernaut]

I would like to see this be a monthly event. Once per month you get a day off and have to log on to vote for everything. Things from the lowest form of government to the highest. If you don't use that day to vote you get taxed in a higher bracket.

[Tommy]

what could be cool is
I think more Issues could be left to the voting public

I think this issue shows how bad our government really is

If I can trade stocks online safely and security and that's been happening for the last 5 to 7 years

and our government still cant setup online voting


Ya know why I think the Republicans will never setup online voting ???
Because more young people would vote

I think maybe 10 to 20 million younger voters would be active
maybe more and young voters don't seem to like the republicans

[Moby]

Hey, we can get a company in Ohio that donates heavily to the Bush campaign to build the back end that has no paper trail.

With Internet voting it would be way to easy to block others from voting. There were a number of reports about blocking voters in Ohio.

Think about it. I'm not you Tommy but I keep trying to log in as you. Sooner or later the system is going to lock your account and then you can't vote.

So now I just do batch type DOS attack of all registered democrats in your district and bang!

No paper trail means the exit polls are wrong for the first time in the history of any election any where in the world.

No physical verification of people and suddenly no democrats seem to vote on0line while 35,000,000 republicans do.

[juggernaut]

We can always use CAC cards or finger print readers in order to log on the site for voting. Excrypted certificates durring the log on process would be the way to go. I would like to see all three used for the logon process. Shit I can't even send e-mail out of my office without keeping my finger on the button and my card in it's slot. Kind of hard to beat something like that unless you kill me, take my card and fingers but even then you still need to know my CAC pin. I like to think that if people can figure out a way to do a PPM video system, along with chat attached we should be able to figure out a way to get this done.

[Linkster]

Every time its come up as an amendment in congress - the republicans have voted against it - unfortunately they never seem to give a reason

[Maj.Stress]

I know there would be a huge risk for hackers but I bank online,
millions of people do, if they can secure all that money I dont see why they cant make internet voting safe

Recently there was a news special locally that revealed that banks get robbed all the time electronically. So, I'm really not to sure how secure it all is. We are insured to a point so personally most of us never have to deal with it.
Back in 1999 Arizona was going to test electronic voting in the primaries and backed out at the last minute because of security issues. Has any other state tried this yet? I personally like the idea. My thinking is a lot more people would vote and the American public might actually have more voice in how this country is run.

[Linkster]

The funniest part is that it is a fact that more US citizens voted for the American Idol contestants than did in the last presidential election - and seems at least from first looks both were frauds :)
Cant believe people pay cell companies to send text messages voting for an Idol that was already picked as the winner months beforehand - and pay for it - somebody is making a killing. It was amazing to see Paula Abdul go on Oprah one afternoon 3 months before the end of the Idol this last season and admit that they already had the winner - and still millions and millions of stupid Americans paid their 0.50 to vote for their favorite - damn Ive got to come up with a legal scam like this

[Moby]

We can always use CAC cards or finger print readers in order to log on the site for voting. Excrypted certificates durring the log on process would be the way to go. I would like to see all three used for the logon process. Shit I can't even send e-mail out of my office without keeping my finger on the button and my card in it's slot. Kind of hard to beat something like that unless you kill me, take my card and fingers but even then you still need to know my CAC pin. I like to think that if people can figure out a way to do a PPM video system, along with chat attached we should be able to figure out a way to get this done.
You can work out the user security provided voters want to register their finger prints, DNA, eye pattern ... in a national government database. Then people still need to have the biometric and CAC readers.

While it would make it easy and more people would probably vote, I'm not a fan of electronic voting at all. You have no real verification and you have to trust the people in charge and they have incentives to make adjustments.

The one time in the history of voting that exit polls were wrong was the one time that electronic voting was used.

[Maj.Stress]

The one time in the history of voting that exit polls were wrong was the one time that electronic voting was used.
I may be missing the boat here but what do exit polls have to do with electronic voting? How do you poll these people?

[Kinky Jones]

The funniest part is that it is a fact that more US citizens voted for the American Idol contestants than did in the last presidential election - and seems at least from first looks both were frauds :)
Cant believe people pay cell companies to send text messages voting for an Idol that was already picked as the winner months beforehand - and pay for it - somebody is making a killing. It was amazing to see Paula Abdul go on Oprah one afternoon 3 months before the end of the Idol this last season and admit that they already had the winner - and still millions and millions of stupid Americans paid their 0.50 to vote for their favorite - damn Ive got to come up with a legal scam like this

holy cow that drives me and my roomy f*cking insane!! people are REALLY in to text messaging these days...

just find a certain couple companies thru google and buy some late late night advertising space Linkster, they run all night long here:banghead:

"my name is Jenny and tonight i'm at home with my cellphone waiting for some lonely guys that wanna hookup just text STEAMY to 55555" :lmao2:

[Moby]

I may be missing the boat here but what do exit polls have to do with electronic voting? How do you poll these people?
Electronic voting means no paper trail. You don't actually get to look at your ballot and verify how you voted. Also recounts are pertty much impossible because there's just a bunch of data.

The only time in history that exit polls duing a Presidential election were wrong was also the only time in history that electronic voting machines with no paper trails were used. It makes you wonder if the voting machines were accurate. We know from results in certain Ohio districts that the voting machines miscount but we will never know how much they miscounted in the rest of Ohio.

[Tommy]

I cant beleive that you guys wouldnt like internet voting.

you would rather go down to the high school and stand in line with the old men and women and listen to them complain about their corns

[Linkster]

Just noticed that the committee that was formed to look at the programming of the electronic voting software used on most (Diabold) voting machines in the country has found a backdoor left in the software that allows total vote counts to be changed - and done remotely.
Seems within the last two weeks in Georgia there was another problem - and the congresswoman that found the problem is raising heck because of it

[Moby]

I cant beleive that you guys wouldnt like internet voting.

you would rather go down to the high school and stand in line with the old men and women and listen to them complain about their corns
I would much rather login and vote. I also know that those controlling the vote can change the votes quite easily.

The ability to tamper with Internet votes is so easy that even the most religious of men would be tempted to change the votes. Of course we're dealing with politicians which are truly the sleaziest of men so what do you think would happen?

While I like the idea of Internet I know that the voting process process would just be a farce. A pointless effort and that the votes would never actually be counted. When you think about it, you know it too.

[Moby]

Just noticed that the committee that was formed to look at the programming of the electronic voting software used on most (Diabold) voting machines in the country has found a backdoor left in the software that allows total vote counts to be changed - and done remotely.
Seems within the last two weeks in Georgia there was another problem - and the congresswoman that found the problem is raising heck because of it
Link?

We do know that in at least one Ohio district that Dubya received more votes then there were total registered voters.

[Linkster]

This is the mainstream report on it:
http://washingtontimes.com/national/20060720-121912-2795r.htm

The other report that goes a little more in depth is:
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=11705

Also she is one of the strongest detractors of voting machines after watching the hack demonstration computer science professors held showing how easy it was to hack Diabold machines

[amadman]

I cant wait to be able to vote online. I want the option to vote on anything and everything.