Keyser Soze
11-19-2011, 08:02 PM
If they censor the web will we be able to get around it? Does anyone know?
I found this on DU..
Which would essentially put most of the art on YouTube, etc. (and DU's breaking news videos) out of business and delete millions of fan created videos, political videos, and art and blacklist (impose a federal government filter) the sites they are hosted on, preventing anyone within the Continental US from accessing those sites.
But some ponies on DU just won't listen!...
http://techland.time.com/2011/11/17/sopa-wont-stop-online-piracy-would-censor-everyone-else/?iid=tl-article-mostpop1
There’s a disturbing bill making the rounds on Capitol Hill right now called the Stop Online Piracy Act, or SOPA. It’s purportedly designed to thwart music and movie piracy by empowering copyright holders to isolate and shut down websites or online services found with infringing content. SOPA is the House version of the bill, introduced by Representative Lamar Smith (R-Tex.), and there’s another in the Senate called the Protect IP Act, introduced by Senator Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.). Hearings on SOPA began Wednesday, and the chances it’ll pass are excellent, because it’s backed by powerful business lobbies and has bipartisan majority support in both the House and Senate. If it does pass, the only thing that could shut it down would be a veto by President Obama.
In short, SOPA, if passed, would allow the U.S. government to blacklist any website found to have infringing material, inhibiting access to said sites using DNS filtering techniques similar to those employed by China and Iran. What’s “infringing material”? Anything deemed in violation of copyright, say a few posts by users in a web forum or on a social network—even links sent in email. What’s more, a website or Internet communication medium’s owners would be held liable for any infringing content, and the government would be empowered to cut off revenue to those sites’ owners and force search engines to block them, too.
What’s more, Yahoo in October exited the business trade group that supports the bill, and according to the Washington Post, Google and the Consumer Electronics Association are threatening to do so as well.
MORE: Verisign Seeks Authority to Shut Down Websites Without Court Orders (http://techland.time.com/2011/10/12/verisign-seeks-authority-to-shut-down-websites-without-court-orders/)
What Time doesn't mention in its article on the subject is that this bill would allow the federal government to censor sites containing ordinary user content -- i.e. "fair use" -- a concept some DUers appear to be unfamiliar with, if previous threads on the subject are any indication.
I.e. the federal government and site owners would be empowered to censor or demand payment from users for submitting videos of themselves singing a cover song, posting a clip or screencap or art based on a derivative work -- 99% of fan created art on the web.
It would also introduce what TIME (the most conservative of the major newsweeklies) calls "China and Iran" style Internet filtering nationwide -- the sort of thing DUers pressured Google to leave China over.
Yet when I posted a thread on this last week (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2284667), I was accused of overstatement and claims the bill was dead, and/or had nothing to do with Protect IP]. Nonsense! PROTECT IP Act is the SENATE version. SOPA is the HOUSE version. People saying they didn't see how the two were related, or how it would affect anyone, your argument was invalid!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2346109
I found this on DU..
Which would essentially put most of the art on YouTube, etc. (and DU's breaking news videos) out of business and delete millions of fan created videos, political videos, and art and blacklist (impose a federal government filter) the sites they are hosted on, preventing anyone within the Continental US from accessing those sites.
But some ponies on DU just won't listen!...
http://techland.time.com/2011/11/17/sopa-wont-stop-online-piracy-would-censor-everyone-else/?iid=tl-article-mostpop1
There’s a disturbing bill making the rounds on Capitol Hill right now called the Stop Online Piracy Act, or SOPA. It’s purportedly designed to thwart music and movie piracy by empowering copyright holders to isolate and shut down websites or online services found with infringing content. SOPA is the House version of the bill, introduced by Representative Lamar Smith (R-Tex.), and there’s another in the Senate called the Protect IP Act, introduced by Senator Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.). Hearings on SOPA began Wednesday, and the chances it’ll pass are excellent, because it’s backed by powerful business lobbies and has bipartisan majority support in both the House and Senate. If it does pass, the only thing that could shut it down would be a veto by President Obama.
In short, SOPA, if passed, would allow the U.S. government to blacklist any website found to have infringing material, inhibiting access to said sites using DNS filtering techniques similar to those employed by China and Iran. What’s “infringing material”? Anything deemed in violation of copyright, say a few posts by users in a web forum or on a social network—even links sent in email. What’s more, a website or Internet communication medium’s owners would be held liable for any infringing content, and the government would be empowered to cut off revenue to those sites’ owners and force search engines to block them, too.
What’s more, Yahoo in October exited the business trade group that supports the bill, and according to the Washington Post, Google and the Consumer Electronics Association are threatening to do so as well.
MORE: Verisign Seeks Authority to Shut Down Websites Without Court Orders (http://techland.time.com/2011/10/12/verisign-seeks-authority-to-shut-down-websites-without-court-orders/)
What Time doesn't mention in its article on the subject is that this bill would allow the federal government to censor sites containing ordinary user content -- i.e. "fair use" -- a concept some DUers appear to be unfamiliar with, if previous threads on the subject are any indication.
I.e. the federal government and site owners would be empowered to censor or demand payment from users for submitting videos of themselves singing a cover song, posting a clip or screencap or art based on a derivative work -- 99% of fan created art on the web.
It would also introduce what TIME (the most conservative of the major newsweeklies) calls "China and Iran" style Internet filtering nationwide -- the sort of thing DUers pressured Google to leave China over.
Yet when I posted a thread on this last week (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2284667), I was accused of overstatement and claims the bill was dead, and/or had nothing to do with Protect IP]. Nonsense! PROTECT IP Act is the SENATE version. SOPA is the HOUSE version. People saying they didn't see how the two were related, or how it would affect anyone, your argument was invalid!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2346109