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disrupter
11-19-2007, 08:50 PM
Anti-Bush Sign Has Bridge World in an Uproar

By STEPHANIE STROM
Published: November 14, 2007

In the genteel world of bridge, disputes are usually handled quietly and rarely involve issues of national policy. But in a fight reminiscent of the brouhaha over an anti-Bush statement by Natalie Maines of the Dixie Chicks in 2003, a team of women who represented the United States at the world bridge championships in Shanghai last month is facing sanctions, including a yearlong ban from competition, for a spur-of-the-moment protest.

At issue is a crudely lettered sign, scribbled on the back of a menu, that was held up at an awards dinner and read, “We did not vote for Bush.”

By e-mail, angry bridge players have accused the women of “treason” and “sedition.”

“This isn’t a free-speech issue,” said Jan Martel, president of the United States Bridge Federation, the nonprofit group that selects teams for international tournaments. “There isn’t any question that private organizations can control the speech of people who represent them.”

Not so, said Danny Kleinman, a professional bridge player, teacher and columnist. “If the U.S.B.F. wants to impose conditions of membership that involve curtailment of free speech, then it cannot claim to represent our country in international competition,” he said by e-mail.

Ms. Martel said the action by the team, which had won the Venice Cup, the women’s title, at the Shanghai event, could cost the federation corporate sponsors.

The players have been stunned by the reaction to what they saw as a spontaneous gesture, “a moment of levity,” said Gail Greenberg, the team’s nonplaying captain and winner of 11 world championships.

“What we were trying to say, not to Americans but to our friends from other countries, was that we understand that they are questioning and critical of what our country is doing these days, and we want you to know that we, too, are critical,” Ms. Greenberg said, stressing that she was speaking for herself and not her six teammates.

The controversy has gone global, with the French team offering support for its American counterparts.

“By trying to address these issues in a nonviolent, nonthreatening and lighthearted manner,” the French team wrote in by e-mail to the federation’s board and others, “you were doing only what women of the world have always tried to do when opposing the folly of men who have lost their perspective of reality.”

The proposed sanctions would hurt the team’s playing members financially. “I earn my living from bridge, and a substantial part of that from being hired to compete in high-level competitions,” Debbie Rosenberg, a team member, said. “So being barred would directly affect much of my ability to earn a living.”

A hearing is scheduled this month in San Francisco, where thousands of players will be gathered for the Fall North American Bridge Championships. It will determine whether displaying the sign constitutes conduct unbecoming a federation member.

Three players— Hansa Narasimhan, JoAnna Stansby and Jill Meyers — have expressed regret that the action offended some people. The federation has proposed a settlement to Ms. Greenberg and the three other players, Jill Levin, Irina Levitina and Ms. Rosenberg, who have not made any mollifying statements.

It calls for a one-year suspension from federation events, including the World Bridge Olympiad next year in Beijing; a one-year probation after that suspension; 200 hours of community service “that furthers the interests of organized bridge”; and an apology drafted by the federation’s lawyer.

It would also require them to write a statement telling “who broached the idea of displaying the sign, when the idea was adopted, etc.”

Alan Falk, a lawyer for the federation, wrote the four team members on Nov. 6, “I am instructed to press for greater sanction against anyone who rejects this compromise offer.”

Ms. Greenberg said she decided to put up the sign in response to questions from players from other countries about American interrogation techniques, the war in Iraq and other foreign policy issues.

“There was a lot of anti-Bush feeling, questioning of our Iraq policy and about torture,” Ms. Greenberg said. “I can’t tell you it was an overwhelming amount, but there were several specific comments, and there wasn’t the same warmth you usually feel at these events.”

Ms. Rosenberg said the team members intended the sign as a personal statement that demonstrated American values and noted that it was held up at the same time some team members were singing along to “The Star-Spangled Banner” and waving small American flags.

“Freedom to express dissent against our leaders has traditionally been a core American value,” she wrote by e-mail. “Unfortunately, the Bush brand of patriotism, where criticizing Bush means you are a traitor, seems to have penetrated a significant minority of U.S. bridge players.”http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/14/arts/14brid.html?_r=1&ex=1352782800&en=f965702cffc57682&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&oref=slogin

Now i expect the anti-freespeech Bush NAZIs to howl in protest.

We have such extraordinary social pressures to social convention anymore.
The disease of corporatization of America.

You go gurls!
Not only did you not vote for Bush, in fact the 2004 election was outright stolen as exit polling proves.

All Hail Freedom of Speech.

Cat slave
11-20-2007, 12:46 AM
:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: A bridge team?? Oh, thats a huge source of profundity.

disrupter
11-20-2007, 04:30 AM
Well they would be people capable of complex, sophisticated thought & strategy,

unlike the average corporate dummed down American.

Frankg
11-20-2007, 06:04 AM
Bridge Playing Loons Get Shanghaied in Shanghai
More liberal idiocy...
An American Bridge Team protests Bush while in China.
http://bp1.blogger.com/_L6pDyjqqsvY/RzriKkDbm3I/AAAAAAAAI9Q/1ezj9-ULBmw/s400/bridge+libs.jpg (http://bp1.blogger.com/_L6pDyjqqsvY/RzriKkDbm3I/AAAAAAAAI9Q/1ezj9-ULBmw/s1600-h/bridge+libs.jpg)
From left, Jill Levin, Jill Meyers, Debbie Rosenberg and Irina Levitina of the Venice Cup championship team in Shanghai. (New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/14/arts/14brid.html?ex=1352782800&en=f965702cffc57682&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss))

This US bridge team felt it necessary to show their disgust for Bush at an international tournament in Shanghai, China.
The NYT (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/14/arts/14brid.html?_r=1&ex=1352782800&en=f965702cffc57682&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&oref=slogin) reported this on the bridge playing loons:

“What we were trying to say, not to Americans but to our friends from other countries, was that we understand that they are questioning and critical of what our country is doing these days, and we want you to know that we, too, are critical.”

...Ms. Greenberg said she decided to put up the sign in response to questions from players from other countries about American interrogation techniques, the war in Iraq and other foreign policy issues.

“There was a lot of anti-Bush feeling, questioning of our Iraq policy and about torture,” Ms. Greenberg said. “I can’t tell you it was an overwhelming amount, but there were several specific comments, and there wasn’t the same warmth you usually feel at these events.”


Let's see if we got this right...
These players are concerned about interrogation techniques (waterboarding) and foreign policy issues (Gitmo) while playing cards in China(?)
Come again?

Did they not notice they were playing cards in Communist China?

China- The same country that harvests prisoner's body organs (http://en.epochtimes.com/news/7-5-19/55501.html)- The same country that jails Christians (http://www.worthynews.com/christian/china-jails-house-church-christians-suspends-prison-sentence-christian-lawyer/)and people of faith- The same country that murdered 30-40 million of its own citizens (http://mensnewsdaily.com/archive/m-n/m-n-misc/naegele080905.htm)less than 50 years ago.
Do these pampered loons have any perspective of history?

Now they're whining about freedom of speech?
They probably didn't notice the lack of protesters on the street in Shanghai.
...Or anywhere in China.
What loons.
http://bestsmileys.com/lol/14.gif

Cat slave
11-20-2007, 11:19 AM
Well they would be people capable of complex, sophisticated thought & strategy,

unlike the average corporate dummed down American.

Yeah, a lot of people could be a lot of positive things but they are in the
minority.

Cat slave
11-20-2007, 11:21 AM
Bridge Playing Loons Get Shanghaied in Shanghai
More liberal idiocy...
An American Bridge Team protests Bush while in China.
http://bp1.blogger.com/_L6pDyjqqsvY/RzriKkDbm3I/AAAAAAAAI9Q/1ezj9-ULBmw/s400/bridge+libs.jpg (http://bp1.blogger.com/_L6pDyjqqsvY/RzriKkDbm3I/AAAAAAAAI9Q/1ezj9-ULBmw/s1600-h/bridge+libs.jpg)
From left, Jill Levin, Jill Meyers, Debbie Rosenberg and Irina Levitina of the Venice Cup championship team in Shanghai. (New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/14/arts/14brid.html?ex=1352782800&en=f965702cffc57682&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss))

This US bridge team felt it necessary to show their disgust for Bush at an international tournament in Shanghai, China.
The NYT (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/14/arts/14brid.html?_r=1&ex=1352782800&en=f965702cffc57682&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&oref=slogin) reported this on the bridge playing loons:

“What we were trying to say, not to Americans but to our friends from other countries, was that we understand that they are questioning and critical of what our country is doing these days, and we want you to know that we, too, are critical.”

...Ms. Greenberg said she decided to put up the sign in response to questions from players from other countries about American interrogation techniques, the war in Iraq and other foreign policy issues.

“There was a lot of anti-Bush feeling, questioning of our Iraq policy and about torture,” Ms. Greenberg said. “I can’t tell you it was an overwhelming amount, but there were several specific comments, and there wasn’t the same warmth you usually feel at these events.”


Let's see if we got this right...
These players are concerned about interrogation techniques (waterboarding) and foreign policy issues (Gitmo) while playing cards in China(?)
Come again?

Did they not notice they were playing cards in Communist China?

China- The same country that harvests prisoner's body organs (http://en.epochtimes.com/news/7-5-19/55501.html)- The same country that jails Christians (http://www.worthynews.com/christian/china-jails-house-church-christians-suspends-prison-sentence-christian-lawyer/)and people of faith- The same country that murdered 30-40 million of its own citizens (http://mensnewsdaily.com/archive/m-n/m-n-misc/naegele080905.htm)less than 50 years ago.
Do these pampered loons have any perspective of history?

Now they're whining about freedom of speech?
They probably didn't notice the lack of protesters on the street in Shanghai.
...Or anywhere in China.
What loons.
http://bestsmileys.com/lol/14.gif

Excellent point. Duh! Maybe the Chinese will keep them.

Little Red Dog
11-20-2007, 12:08 PM
...
Now they're whining about freedom of speech?
They probably didn't notice the lack of protesters on the street in Shanghai.
...Or anywhere in China.
What loons.


The team are Americans being sanctioned by Americans. They actually have no business commenting on Chinese politics. All they said was that they didn't vote for Bush.

It's the reaction that's over the top. Apparently the bridge officials think they're living in China.

UserName
11-20-2007, 12:19 PM
Good for them! When Americans are not allowed to exercise their right to free speech for fear of reprisal we have lost what America stands for. And when Americans malign other Americans for exercising their right to free speech, like Frankg and catslave have done, then America is lost to the weaklings, the punks, and the gutless wonders.

BRAVO! ladies. I didn't vote for the fucktard either!