The Historical significance of central banking, real or imagined?

[Bosco]

The power to create money is nothing short of the power to play God. This is the ultimate power, the ultimate resource, the end all, be all of everything coveted throughout the world, and throughout time. Half Shekel anyone?

A History of denial, deceit and deception. A Universally accepted truth.

The Money Changers.

ADOLF HITLER DID NOT WANT WAR!

I have NEVER been a fan of Hitler nor the Nazis, nor the IRA or any Dictator during the vast majority of my life. Who the hell would be if they were sane individuals?

But, in recent years – just the past handful – I have researched so much into history and particularly hidden history and peered beneath the surface because I was compelled to do so by events which unfolded in my own life and left me speechless about the lies, deception and guilt of my own government, judiciary and western governments in general, that my entire belief system has been turned inside out. I have to say that this “research” of mine has not been minimal in any shape or form. It has been wide and deep and has taken up 4 solid years of my life (luckily I have immensely enjoyed it) and the blinkers are off and the eyes are wide open.

I can’t point the reader to every single book and text and paragraph and documentary that I have read or watched, nor regurgitate the entirety of the hours and days I have spent reading congressional and parliamentary minutes so as to crystallize everything which has led me to the conclusions and statements I make in my blogs. I would love to write a book but it would be enormous and I wouldn’t know where to begin (or end), This jigsaw puzzle is just so immense such that it involves every single subject associated with life and history and sociology itself. I have two degrees: In Physics and in Business studies which took 6 years in total to complete but, incomparison to the time I’ve spent on this in the past 4 years, those studies were “part time”. If there was such a thing as a PhD in this overall subject, I’d have two of them by now!

So, what I write and blog about is really just short insights into subjects I have looked at and, for everything which I do post, I expect the reader, if they are interested either to confirm for themselves or for the purpose of challenging and denying, to research for themselves.

Not wishing to offend anyone but the more I read and learn of this character, the more I admire him and disbelieve the absolute shit we have been conditioned into believing of him. Further the more I understand of the zionist creeps, liars and thieves in our own governments and establishment, then even more to I admire this guy for his achievements. So very similar to Gaddafi’s. There is no doubt that we have been seriously deceived.
And no, I am no Nazi but I seriously question whether it would have been a bad thing.

Of course, from the amount I have to say negatively about Zionism – and those who would wish to consider this to mean all jewish people and is just a “front” for an assumed “Nazi” to be “anti semitic” – and now praising, or at least admitting admiration for Adolf Hitler, those who would wish to label me whatever will. For those people let me be blunt: I do not give a FCUK any longer. Your perception is just that and is coloured by what you wish to believe and your own prejudices.

So with that, I ask you to listen to this video speech by Adolf Hitler where he, in his own words, makes it quite clear that he never wished for war with America and had not with Britain either.

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Now, of course, you are going to suggest “well that’s Hitler talking – a crazed genocidal dictator” etc etc. He lied.

Ok, sure I understand that. After all, that’s what we have been led to believe for decades. I don’t know about you though but I wasn’t born until well after the war and yet, what I see from “our side” re Hussein, Gaddafi etc, is a solid block of bullshit. Why should it have changed?

So here is someone else saying, concretely, Hitler did not wish for war with Britain:

“I received a telephone call from my friend ‘Putzi’ Hanfstaengi, who was at that time Hitler’s personal private secretary and court jester. He told me that the Führer had been reading my speeches with interest, and would like to see me at his headquarters in the Esplanade Hotel.

It is true that when I walked across the long room to a corner in which he was sitting writing, in a brown shirt with a swastika on his arm, he waited without looking up until I had reached his side, then sprang to his feet, lifted his right arm, and shouted ‘Hitler!’; and that I responded by clicking my heels together, raising my right arm, and shouting back: ‘Boothby!’

I talked with Hitler for over an hour; and it was not long before I detected the unmistakable glint of madness in his eyes. I was much impressed by his grasp of Keynesian economics at that time. He said that I was quite right about economic
expansion, and the means by which it could be achieved. But he added that this was now a political crisis, and that political forces would bring him to power. “After that,” he said, “I shall bend economics to my will; and I have in my hands the necessary instrument, a man called Schacht (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hjalmar_Schacht).” He had no sense of humour. He asked me how I would feel if Germany had beaten us in the last war, and driven a corridor between England and Scotland. I said: “You forget, Herr Hitler, that I
come from Scotland. We should have been delighted.” He did not smile. Instead he brought his fist down with a crash on the table and said: “So! I had no idea that the hatred between the two peoples was so great.” Perhaps this was one of the reasons why he sent Hess to Scotland in 1940, for I am sure that he did; and why he never bombed Edinburgh.

I then asked him, point-blank, what he was going to do to the Jews. I thought Hanfstaengi was going to faint, but only a flicker of irritation crossed his face. After a moment he said: ‘There will be no pogroms.’ I think that, at the time, he probably meant it. He had already planned to take over the whole of central and eastern Europe, and intended to deport all German Jews to those countries. What I cannot bring myself to believe is that he was unaware of what Himmler ultimately did to them.

That night I thought long and earnestly about the interview. I came to the conclusion that his plans were far more advanced than I had thought. He did not then wish to attack Britain and the British Empire, or even France. What he was determined to do was to bring the whole of central and eastern Europe under German control; and for this purpose Austria, and above all Czechoslovakia, were the key points”.

From Lord Boothby’s biography: “Recollections of a rebel” 1978.

Boothby, while a homosexual and having a relationship with Ronnie Kray while the British government hushed it all up and told the Met Police to lay off – thereby allowing the Kray twins to carry on for another few years (says a lot about how the Police are controlled by a corrupt government doesn’t it?) – there is hardly any reason for him to lie about the intentions of Hitler when he was so ardently opposed to the regime and any threat to the British Empire. Yes they still spoke of the British Empire in those days because, in fact, that Empire still exists today but simply in another form and it is based upon the money power. Always was. Adolf was a serious danger to that money power as was Gaddafi today.

So. What are you going to do? Say on one hand that people have freedomm of speech and of expression and when they encounter factual data which has them form their own conclusions which don’t quite agree with those the government demand they should have, you act in the very same way that you try to teach the population that this guy acted with his population? So it goes something like this: “Listen, if you start talking about a fascist dictator like he wasn’t quite a fascist dictator then we will come and shut you up and shut you down so that you cannot express freely your beliefs or conclusions but WE’RE not fascist dictators!”? Is that what you’re saying Officers?

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[Bosco]

Understanding Money and War
By R. D. Bradshaw (http://www.analysis-news.com/allfolder/Understanding-I.htm)

“The truth is the Federal Reserve Board has usurped the Government of the United States. It controls everything here and it controls all our foreign relations. It makes and breaks government at will …”

VOL I

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In medieval times, the goldsmith business developed in much of Europe (with involvement of people whom had been known earlier as money changers). By the Middle Ages, goldsmithing was an established reality.

As gold was physical, heavy and bulky to store, but yet of great value, many people found that they lacked the means to store and safeguard it. Goldsmiths provided this service. When gold was stored with the goldsmith, he would write a receipt for it which was given to the gold owner. Since the gold owner could get his gold upon surrender of the receipt, the receipt was as good as gold.

Soon, these gold receipts became a medium of exchange, just like coins. As these receipts represented money in the society at large, goldsmiths found that they could write more receipts than they had of gold. By issuing these receipts, they could then buy goods and services on the open market or make investments however they chose. Thus, these gold receipts were some of the earliest forms of paper money.

Since many of the goldsmiths were crooked as snakes, they often issued far more receipts than they had of gold. And, if the people became suspicious and made a run on the goldsmith, when he lacked physical gold to cover his outstanding receipts, he could end up being hung or having his head chopped off. Hence, goldsmithing could be a very dangerous business.

In time, the goldsmiths thought of a workable solution on how they could issue forms of receipts as paper money and make the local governing politicians responsible if something went wrong and the public wanted to hang someone. If the local government people were responsible, then the people being cheated could take their anger out on the governing politicians/kings, rather than on the goldsmiths who were operating from behind the thrones/scenes.

This process paved the way for the establishment of privately owned central banks (as stock corporations) in various nations whereby these banks were given complete authority over the nations’ money—to print it and distribute it almost however they saw fit. In order to be given this power, the goldsmiths/bankers typically made promises to the governing politicians and kings that they would provide them with all the money that they wanted.

The privately owned Bank of England was organized in 1694. Soon, other privately-owned central banks developed in other parts of Europe. With their presence, it meant that the money of the nations involved was placed into the hands of private people who were answerable to no one. Yet, if the public became concerned over their money, and there was a run on the bank, the governing politicians/kings would be blamed and hung and not the bankers. This was a perfect scam to rip off and steal from the people.

Through wars and intrigues of various sorts, a goldsmith/money changing family named Bauer surfaced in Germany in the mid 18th century. In time, this Bauer family changed its name to Rothschild and eventually established international banks over much of Europe.

While the Bauer connection is not discussed, “Encyclopaedia Judaica” (v. 14, p. 334) notes a Rothschild descendancy from Isaac Elhanan who died in Frankfort, Germany in 1585. Isaac owned the house where the Rothschilds later gained their riches and fame. Though not clear, the Elhanan connection could have occurred from a maternal connection.

Nathan Rothschild (son of the progenitor Mayer Amschel Rothschild of Frankfort, Germany) settled in London and started an international Rothschild bank there. He was highly successful and in time became the primary owner of the Bank of England. His brother Jacob (who was also known as James) Rothschild established an international bank in Paris and he became a key owner of the Bank of France. The Rothschild family has controlled most European central banks ever since (even today, they control the European Central Bank and Swiss National Bank).

Following the American Revolution, the Rothschilds made immediate plans to move in and take over the US money as they had done in Europe. They used an agent named Alexander Levine who had been trained in banking in the West Indies. He came to New York in Colonial days and changed his name to Alexander Hamilton to better fool and deceive the New Yorkers about his true status.

While Levine was not totally successful at that time, in establishing a permanent US central bank, he did get a temporary one established for a period of twenty years under Rothschild ownership. It was called the First US Bank. There was a Second US Bank also for twenty years. But by the time of Andrew Jackson, in the 1830s, Old Hickory opposed them and they had to sit on the sidelines and wait.

While waiting and looking for an opportunity to create their dreamland of an all powerful, private, central, US bank, the Rothschilds periodically caused depressions/recessions, money panics, etc in the US to try to get a central bank in place. They thought they would succeed in the US Civil War under Lincoln. But their efforts fell through the crack when Lincoln opposed them.

On Dec 23, 1913 (while Congressional central bank opponents were home on Christmas vacation), the Federal Reserve Act was passed and President Woodrow Wilson immediately signed it into law. At last, the US had a permanent, privately-owned, central bank. By acting through agents, like the Warburgs, the Rothschilds have had primary control over this US central bank ever since 1913.

Thus, the Federal Reserve Bank was born (called the Fed and actually made up of twelve member banks which are all owned/managed by private bankers). Under the act, the president is allowed to appoint a seven member overall board of governors. But the bankers organized their system by making this board a figure head operation when they created a controlling entity called the Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC).

The FOMC makes the key decisions for the central bank. Though the so-called board of governors are members of the FOMC, the Fed law provides that all twelve participating private bankers are full participants in all FOMC meetings, discussions, plans and activities--although only five of these private bankers can vote on Fed actions at FOMC meetings.

The Power of Money

While the private bankers are in actual control of the twelve member banks, they are also in de facto control of the seven member board of governors. This came about because the 18th century banker Mayer Rothschild said to permit him to control a nation’s money and he cared not who wrote its laws. Most of us know about the golden rule—he who has the gold does the ruling. Proverbs 22:7 adds that the rich rule over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.

Certainly, once some person gains control of a nation’s money, the door is opened for him to also control its law-makers and laws. This power insures that the law-makers never get bold and try to pass restrictive laws to interfere in the person’s operation. With this money control, the US president always appoints people acceptable by the bankers to the seven member Fed board. Manifestly, the board works for the bankers, just like the FOMC works for the bankers.

Since appointments to the board are for fourteen years, and since board members cannot be removed except in case of personal misconduct, it is academic to talk about the question of independence by the board. Once members are appointed, they always go along with the bankers--who, with their money, wield a big stick in American politics. And since the board has no power on its own, the topic is irrelevant anyway.

In offering the governing politicians unlimited supplies of money, the plan sold to the US was that the Fed would always buy any US Treasury bills, notes, bonds or paper which could not be sold to the public. This is called monetizing the debt when the Treasury simply hands a stack of interest bearing paper to the Fed in exchange for Fed money or bank credits (which are available in almost unlimited quantities at the Fed).

This means that the Fed itself is one of the largest holders of US debt. With this huge inflow of interest annually to the Fed, the Fed offered a solution to satisfy the concern of politicians by transferring any unspent sums of interest back to the Treasury at the end of the year (and it does this annually so no one can claim that the Fed is out to make money on its own operations or from interest on US paper). Actually, there was never any plan or need for the Fed, itself, to be a money making operation. It doesn’t need to make money because it was created for other purposes.

In fact, the Fed does not need to make money because it already has essentially unlimited supplies of its own money and can issue this money in a virtually unchecked and unverified manner (because its operations are carried out in secret and there is no checking or auditing of what it does--even the CIA does not have this secrecy since the CIA has to ask the president and Congress for money and must accordingly accommodate them. With the Fed, it asks no one for money since it already owns the bulk of the US money supply).

So, although the Fed carries on its operations in secret, and although it is never independently checked or audited (by anyone), the Fed chairman does occasionally testify before Congress on what the Fed is doing. Because of a lack of verification, the Fed Chairman can tell the Congress about whatever he wants to and no one will be the wiser.

In putting this thing over, the Fed was given complete power and authority to control US interest rates at all levels and to be able to make money available to whomever or wherever it chooses at a given point in time.

By controlling interest rates, it is an acknowledged fact that the Fed can enter and participate in the buying and selling of US notes, bonds, bills, etc. And it does so. The Fed enters the allegedly free markets and either buys or sells US and/or other paper to control interest rates (thus, the Fed insiders always know in advance which way interest rates and bond prices are going to go).

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Rigging the Markets!

“It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.”

Some years ago, the Fed/Treasury created something called the “Exchange Stabilization” fund or system to use a vast sum of Federal Reserve Notes to influence, control and participate in the currency markets (this thing was approved by Congress, though it is clearly an unconstitutional action).

Hence, the Fed/Treasury can enter the different currency markets around the world to control the value of various foreign currencies. Thus, they can make the Mexican peso (or any other foreign currency) go up or down (and especially, in collusion with other privately-owned central banks--like the Bank of England, the Bank of Japan, the ECB, the Swiss National Bank, etc).

The last item that the Fed/Treasury can do (or rather is doing since it is being done in secret and evidently illegally) is to rig and control the US stock and commodity markets by entering the markets with unlimited supplies of dollars to make selected items go up or down. Though gullible and uninformed US stock and commodity market investors believe that the markets are free and market responsive, they are not. They are manipulated and controlled.

The Fed and the Treasury collaborated on this madness and created something in 1988 with the approval of Ronald Reagan (reportedly, per executive order 12631 on Mar 18, 1988) called the “Working Group on Financial Stability” (popularly known as the Market Control Unit or the Plunge Protection Team/PPT). This unit operates in collusion with the market-makers (the stock and commodity brokers making the markets on the major stock and commodity exchanges) to buy or sell certain stocks, bonds, currencies and/or commodities at certain times.

In the way of a backdrop, let me add some material which shows how the US government has been involved in manipulating the markets. The old Spotlight newspaper and its successor the American Free Press were apparently some of the first sources to broach the work of the US government in intervening in the markets.

“Spotlight” of May 8, 2000 (p. 1, 3), had an article on the roller coaster market by James Harrer which described the market control unit and how it works. As noted above, it is technically called the “Working Group on Financial Stability.” It operates in collusion with the market-makers (the stock brokers making the markets on the major stock exchanges) by flooding the markets with US dollars through them to buy stocks and reflate the market when desired.

This Plunge Protection Team unit has intervened several times to prevent the US stock markets from tanking (Apr 22, 2002, “American Free Press,” p. 4). In 1998, one of its key players was Peter Fisher, the number two man at the New York Federal Reserve Bank (which manages this unit). Fisher was the specific person who was then known to swap intelligence and rumors with traders and dealers in his manipulation of the markets (ibid, p. 4). Clearly, this was insider information to some of the people tipped off by Fisher.

Allison deMott, an economist and retired portfolio manager, said that when the market goes up, the insiders collect big winnings and when it goes down, the taxpayers eat the biggest losses. Obviously, this type of an arrangement is a gold mine for the clique of money changers running things in the Fed and the Treasury (like Alan Greenspan, Robert Rubin and Lawrence Summers; back in the Clinton days).

Financial reporter Jim Metz said that he thought a market rigging operation like this one would cost mountains of money; but in fact, “a couple of billion worth of instant cash put up by the Fed and the Treasury did the trick” (in reference to the April 2000 intervention). Well known financial columnist John Crudelle confirmed that the government was propping up the US stock market.

“Spotlight,” of February 19, 2001 (p. 1), quoted the well known Watergate reporter Robert Woodward of the “Washington Post.” Woodward has publicly acknowledged in a recent book that Fed Chairman (Alan Greenspan) was willing to do things that were “not legal.” Obviously, some persons are beginning to be aware that the Fed operates illegally (actually, by using its unlimited supply of dollars--belonging to the US).

This whole operation is a price fixing scheme which would be illegal for private citizens to engage in. However, the Fed can get away it and with the full concurrence of at least government leaders.

The above quoted April 22, 2002, “American Free Press” (p. 4) also had an article by Fred Lingel on “Felonious Fed Fingered for Financial Finagling” which illustrated how far this money scam can and may go in the coming days.

Linger quoted the London “Financial Times” of April 2, 2002, which outlined some current thinking along the lines of “buying U.S. equities,” by a reporter named Crudelle (evidently John Crudelle). According to an unnamed Fed official, the Fed could “theoretically buy anything to pump money into the system including state and local debt, real estate and gold mines--any asset. Including stocks.”

Years ago, former Fed governor Robert Heller suggested the purchasing of stock index future contracts as an inexpensive way to rig the markets without leaving a trace (as reported in the “Wall Street Journal”). In watching the work of the PPT, it has become clear to me and indeed others that these conspirators have massaged their work to the point that not only can they influence/control stocks through the futures indexes, but even the value of commodities which are heavily influenced by the futures markets.

For example, gold and silver advocates have discovered that the manipulators have established paper prices for gold and silver simply on the basis of the futures markets. Of course, it is becoming increasingly hard to find gold, silver or certain other commodities on the actual open market based on the futures prices. That’s why some persons call the futures prices “paper” prices.

While the market rigging practice is carried out under the guise of “protecting the US economy,” the truth is that it is a process of manipulating markets “in order to protect the money powers from the consequences of their risky investments.” If there are losses, the US taxpayers will pick them up. Now, there is obvious thinking at the top level that the Fed can enter any and all kinds of markets--real estate, gold mines, state and local bonds, etc.

Consequently, most or all of the markets are not truly “free” and independent in terms of their primary motions. Like the gold market, the other markets are set up and controlled in order for the fat cat, international bankers to make massive profits with the ups and downs in the markets. Obviously, the big bankers engineer and direct these up and down, oscillating motions by manipulating those markets. They specifically cause the ups and downs so they can continuously buy at the lows and sell at the highs (which they control and know about in advance).

If something happens in any given market which is not planned and directed by the money changers, operating from behind the scenes, they could lose all kinds of money and particularly so if the motion should get out of hand.

If the stock market collapsed all at once, while the fat cats are fully or heavily invested, it would be disastrous for them. To preclude such an eventuality, they have obviously set this market control unit up with access to unlimited US dollars to alter free market operations.

Consequently, the stock and commodity markets are not free or market responsive based upon supply and demand. They are subject to the wishes of the Fed (and its secret owners and insiders) to control them. Since these markets are manipulated and controlled by the Rothschild network of insiders, the unsuspecting public gets ripped off and cheated with regularity.

Acts to Make Money for Its Secret Owners

All along, there was no plan that the Fed itself had to be a profitable operation because it has all of the money it can possibly use in the context of the printing presses and the huge inflow of interest annually from the US Treasury.

Actually, the plan always was that the Fed would do things and carry on its buying and selling options in ways to benefits its secret owners, managers and other insiders. Therefore, the Fed itself does not need to make money in its buying and selling operations in the various financial markets. All it has to do is to keep its owners and other key selected insiders aware of what it is doing in secret.

Can the reader possibly begin to understand the benefit that would come to an investor if he had prior knowledge that the Fed would enter the bond markets on a given day to buy or sell US government bonds to alter bond prices and/or to drive interest rates up or down?

Alternatively, how about the benefits to a trader in commodities on the commodity exchanges? What if the trader had advance knowledge that the Fed would enter the commodity market at a given point in time and sell huge quantities of an item to drive the price down (which can be either long or short sales since the Fed has unlimited money to play with)? Would this type of information allow a trader/investor to make gobs and gobs of profits? Has a cat got a tail?

Working the stock exchanges is even more enticing. Suppose you are a stock market player and you have advance information that the Fed will buy (or sell) Dow-Jones stocks on a certain day--like maybe GM or whichever. With your advance information, you can buy (or sell) these stocks in advance and then later sell (or buy) them back with fantastic profits.

If the Fed loses five or ten billion dollars in Fed notes in the markets, it is no big deal because the Fed can simply print more of them (although it should be obvious to anyone above the idiot level that this squander of money belongs to US taxpayers who will have to pick up the liability for all of these Federal Reserve Notes and bank credits which have been liberally distributed around the world to make profits for the Fed owners and insiders).

This type of Fed information on Fed actions is highly secret and no one knows much about it except the Fed’s secret owners, people on the inside in the Fed, and brokers who execute orders for the Fed. Of course, it goes without saying that these insiders do tip off and keep some of their friends, relatives and colleagues apprised of what all is going on.

Thus, Fed owners (like the Rothschilds and Rothschild relatives/colleagues like the Rockefellers, Warburgs and Lazards), Rothschild US agents (like JP Morgan-Chase and Goldman-Sachs) and Rothschild friends and relatives (like George Soros) will always know in advance which way things are going in order to make huge profits.

Besides its primary functions, which allow the Fed to manipulate and control various financial markets to benefit its secret owners and insiders, the Fed also has other powers over the banks and financial markets.

While these incidental powers are extremely important and represent enormous profit opportunities for member banks, they are not as important to the overall profitability of the operations to the Fed owners, as is realized in the ability of the Fed to secretly enter the financial markets to control and manipulate them in any desired direction (within reason and to a point, as long the US dollar has value and acceptance).

[Bosco]

“When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.”

The Last Problems

In 1913, everything was ready for the fat cat bankers. But there remained some problems. First, the US Constitution set the power to coin money and to regulate the value thereof with the US Congress. How could all of this power be placed in a privately owned corporation? Well, the solution was that the US Treasury would print all of the paper money wanted by the Fed and charge the Fed for the cost of printing. Hence, the Treasury prints the Fed notes and sells them to the Fed for pennies on the dollars.

The next big issue for the bankers was the possibility that the dumb, gullible public might become informed on what all was happening to their money and the secret actions of the Fed to use the US money in ways to make profits and gains for its secret owners and insiders. In other words, the people could find out the truth and get riled up against the bankers.

The last big issue concerned the possibility that the Fed could conceivably lose control of events or precipitate a collapse of the historically strong dollar. The stock market crash of 1929, as caused by the Fed, almost brought about the end of the system. But massive federal spending by FDR saved the process for the Fed owners.

The After Effect of the Fed Act

Writer Stephen Lendman had a story on Dec 24, 2008 on the Federal Reserve Abolition Act. In it, Lendman mentioned the work of Congressmen Ron Paul to abolish the Federal Reserve. Lendman then added:

“In theory, the Fed was established to stabilize the economy, smooth out the business cycle, manage a healthy, sustainable growth rate, and maintain stable prices. In fact, it failed dismally. It contributed to 19 US recessions (including the Great Depression) and significantly to the following equity market declines that accompanied them as measured by the Dow or S & P 500 average - the S &P's inception was 1923; it became the S & P 500 in 1957: -- 40.1% (Dow) from 1916 - 1917; -- 46.6% (Dow) from 1919 - 1921; -- the 1929 (Dow) crash in two stages - 47.9% in 1929 followed by a strong, temporary rebound; then - 86%; an 89% peak to trough total from October 1929 to July 1932; -- 49.1% (Dow) from 1937 - 1938; -- 40.4% (Dow) from 1939 - 1942; -- 25.3% (S & P) from 1946 - 1947; -- 19.8% (S & P) in 1957; -- 26.8% (S & P) from 1961 - 1962; -- 19.3% (S & P) in 1966; -- 32.7% (S & P) from 1968 - 1970; -- 45.1% (S & P) from 1973 - 1974; -- 20.2% (S & P) from 1980 - 1982; -- 32.9% (S & P) in 1987; -- 19.2% (S & P) in 1990; -- 18.8% (S & P) in 1998; -- 49.1% (S & P) from 2000 - 2002; and -- about 50% (S & P) and counting (excluding a bear market rebound) from October 2007.

“The Fed is also directly responsible for monetary inflation and the decline in the US standard of living since its year-end 1913 inception and especially since the 1970s. From the late 18th century to 1913, virtually no inflation existed under the gold standard except during times of war. Using government data, it now takes over $2000 to equal $100 of pre-Fed purchasing power. In other words, a 1913 dollar is worth about a nickel today.

“At that time, a dollar was defined as 1/20 of an ounce of gold or about an ounce of silver. The Fed then changed the standard away from precious metals to the full faith and credit of the government. Ever since (except for periods such as the 1930s) inflation eroded the currency's value and (more than ever) continues to do it today…

“Under the Federal Reserve System (besides inflation), we've had rising consumer debt; record budget and trade deficits; a soaring national debt; a high level of personal and business bankruptcies; today, millions of home foreclosures; high unemployment; the loss of the nation's manufacturing base; growing millions in poverty; an unprecedented wealth gap between the rich and all others; and a hugely unstable economy now lurching into crisis mode…

“Our existing monetary system combines money, credit and debt into a dishonest system of empty promises in exchange for future ones. There is no eventual payment, only unfulfillable assurances to new generations that will be forced to pay for the debt now accumulated. It's a moneychanger’s dream - ever-expanding debt and a continuing interest rate stream, masquerading as wealth creation for the people. It's in fact a system of bondage and indebtedness benefitting the few at the expense of the many, a modern-day feudalism. It's how an elite 1% got to own 70% of the nation's wealth…”

Although not mentioned by Lendman, the operations of the Fed and its control of the US economic and monetary systems have allowed a clique of money changers and other insiders an opportunity to make untold amounts of profits and gains which they could never have made before 1913. Many of these money changers have become some of the wealthiest people in the world—thanks to the Fed and the gullible American taxpayers who have sat back and allowed this scam to proceed.

On Sep 10, 2002, Ron Paul on the House floor said: "Since the creation of the Federal Reserve, middle and working- class Americans have been victimized by a boom-and-bust monetary policy. In addition, most Americans have suffered a steadily eroding purchasing power because of the Federal Reserve's inflationary policies. This represents a real, if hidden, tax imposed on the American people...."

Dual Control Over Americans

With the development of the privately owned US central bank, there has been a simultaneous process underway where virtually the same people who own or benefit from the Fed also own or control the US media powers.

Thus, the people who control or have access to the Fed (i.e., the large international banks and bankers—like the Rockefellers, Rothschilds, Warburgs, City Bank of NY, J. P. Morgan-Chase, Bank of NY, Kuhn Loeb and Company, Goldman-Sachs, etc--but this list does not include most small town local banks which are not privy to this operation) also own or control the US media powers, either directly or through agents and collaborators (like ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, AOL-Time-Warner, the Washington Post, Newsweek, etc).

With this dual control, the masses can be forever kept in perpetual ignorance about what all is going on behind the scenes. With an ignorant public, the status quo can continue and the big bankers will continue to make vast profits.

The fantastic success of privately-owned central banks in England, France, the US, etc, prompted the banking plutocrats to decide in the 20th century to branch out into a world configuration. Yes, instead of stealing and cheating the people of single nations, the big bankers could go global and steal from and cheat all of the people all over the world.

The plan was simple. The bankers joined arms with numerous other people who also wanted the implementation of world government. In the deal, the bankers wanted to own and operate the world’s central bank (to make incredible profits). This reality means that the big bankers (who have the money) are some of the most powerful persons of all working for world government.

Some Quotes from People Who Understood the Problem (taken from an article by Matthias Chang on “The Shadow Lenders”)

Niccolo Machiavelli: “For the great majority of mankind are satisfied with appearances as though they were realities, and are often more influenced by the things that seem than by those that are.”

President James Madison: “History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control of governments by controlling money and its issuance.”

President Abraham Lincoln: “The money power preys upon the nation in times of peace and conspires against it in times of adversity. It is more despotic than monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, more selfish than bureaucracy.”

President James A Garfield: “Whoever controls the volume of money in any country is absolute master of all industry and commerce.”

The Rt. Hon. Reginald McKenna – Chancellor of the Exchequer: “I am afraid that the ordinary citizen will not like to be told that the banks can, and do, create money. The amount of money in existence varies only with the action of the banks in increasing and decreasing deposits and bank purchases. Every loan, overdraft, or bank purchase creates a deposit and every repayment of a loan, overdraft or bank sale destroys a deposit. And they who control the credit of a nation direct the policy of governments, and hold in the hollow of their hands the destiny of the people.”

Sir Josiah Stamp – Bank of England: “Banking was conceived in inequity and was born in sin. The bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create deposits, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take it away from them, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of bankers and pay the costs of your own salary, let them continue to create deposits.”

President Woodrow Wilson: “A great Industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the world – no longer a government of free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and vote of majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of small groups of dominant men…I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country (Wilson regrets after the Fed took over).”

Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter: “The real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise power from behind the scenes.”

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Understanding Money and War--Part II
By R. D. Bradshaw (http://www.analysis-news.com/allfolder/Understanding-II.htm)

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The previous article on Understanding Money and War (Part I) briefly touched on the Rothschilds of Frankfort, Germany and how the House of Rothschild has successfully taken over most of the central banks of the Christian West. Today, this family is undoubtedly the most powerful and richest family in the world. It owns/controls most of the central banks in the US, Europe, the old British Commonwealth, and much of the rest of the world as well.

The Rothschilds and many or most of their relatives involved in the manipulation of the financial markets today developed their modern businesses with experience and expertise that goes back to ancient times when they were known as money changers (per Webster’s, a money changer is in the business of money changing). In time, they were identified as goldsmiths. Today they are generally known as international bankers.

With his successful banking/goldsmithing/money changing business in Frankfort, Mayer Rothschild was soon ready to branch out internationally. As he had five sons, he kept one in Frankfurt and sent the other four to other nations to also establish international banks--in London, Paris, Vienna and Naples. Son Nathan went to London and son Jacob (or James) went to Paris.

Early on, in their international banking and money changing business, the Rothschilds found that war could be a very profitable business for insiders who controlled one or both of the warring/conflicting factions. Consequently, history is full of stories of how the Rothschild banking dynasty financed both sides in conflicts and disagreements (as will be shown below). Often loans were made to the parties with the provision that the winner would pay the debts of the loser if the loser could not pay them.

It has to be significant to note that England was at war for 56 of the first 119 years after the Bank of England was created (www.vivelecanada.ca/news). These frequent wars made enormous sums of money for the Rothschilds and other plutocratic ruling families. This almost continuous state of war still exists today with Britain as well as the United States.

The French Revolution

By the 1790s, old King Louie in France was induced by his local banker friends (headed by the Rothschilds and their relatives and colleagues involved in the money changing business) to go to paper money and print more and more of it till it ended in an inflationary blow-out and the really serious aspects of the French Revolution.

How ironic it was that the inflationary money policies of the Rothschilds provided the fuel for the deadly serious aspects of the French Revolution; all the while that it was the Illuminati (organized and funded by the Rothschilds) and the Sabbatian Frankists (acting under the leadership of the Rothschilds) which actually provided the initiation and leadership for the revolution and for the mobs to use guillotines to chop the heads off of Louie, his wife, court and colleagues.

And why did the Rothschilds kick off an assault on the French establishment when it was their own money ideas which created the inflationary bust? It is true that Louie followed the advice of the Rothschild conspirators in creating paper money to bring on an inflationary bust. But at that time, it was Louie and his royal colleagues who were largely doing the stealing and getting the benefit of the fiat inflationary currency being created.

In other words, though the inflationary idea came from the Rothschilds, they were not getting to steal the benefits. Perhaps Louie was not as subservient to his Rothschild advisors as they wanted. Maybe he got a little big headed and did not cut them on a big enough cut of the wealth being stolen from the French people. In any case, once the power of sound money was removed, it paved the way for anarchy and mass killings.

This change in France set up the French Republic and the Bank of France being placed into the hands of the plutocrat international bankers (eventually being the Rothschilds, Lazards, other money changers, and their cousins, relatives and associates which took over France and have ruled that nation ever since).

Buying the British Empire

Rothschild brothers (Nathan in London and Jacob in Paris) were key financial confidants of both Napoleon and the British government during the Napoleonic wars of the early 19th century. They knew every major plan and action of the two governments as they were fighting it out on the European continent. So they worked out a clever carrier pigeon scheme to keep each other abreast of events which were unknown to the general public.

At Waterloo, Wellington prevailed on the battlefield. The British public didn’t know about it for days. But with his pigeon service, Nathan Rothschild was quickly aware of the British success. Therefore, he craftily went into the London financial markets and bought up the British Empire with a little scheming and deceit.

Nathan had a reputation for being very astute on events occurring on the Continent. So, many British investors would watch him and his actions as clues for them to follow in order to make money. Initially, Rothschild acted like a bear and began publicly selling the British pound and bonds short. The watching, gullible, ignorant investors believed that Rothschild had prior knowledge of bad investment news.

So these uninformed investors followed Rothschild’s suit and began selling the pound/bonds which fell dramatically. As soon as crafty old Nathan had suckered in the other investors (pound/bond sellers), he quietly and secretly switched horses and began buying the British pound and bonds (called consols)--before the news of Wellington’s victory reached London.

When the war news arrived in London, Nathan’s investments exploded upward and made Nathan the effective owner of the British Empire. Quickly, his family was no longer hated, little Rothschilds. His male descendants were quickly made knights of the British Empire. Rothschilds have been British Lords ever since.

Rothschild deception in the British financial markets in the 19th century made the family fantastically rich and powerful (because money grants its possessor power). The use of deception has been commonly used by the Rothschilds ever since to continuously expand their wealth and control over the world and world events. Yes, they use deception to rake the money in from the suckers (and they still use deception extensively in the markets today to fool and deceive the suckers).

More on Nathan Mayer Rothschild

The Internet FACTO Encyclopedia of Australia gives this summary on Nathan:
“He operated first as a textile merchant in Manchester, then from 1804 he began to deal on the London stock exchange in financial instruments such as foreign bills and government securities… From 1809 Rothschild began to deal in gold bullion, and developed this as a cornerstone of his business…

“His four brothers helped co-ordinate activities across the continent, and the family developed a network of agents, shippers and couriers to transport gold – and information – across Europe. This private intelligence service enabled Nathan to receive in London the news of Wellington's victory at the Battle of Waterloo a full day ahead of the government's official messengers…

“An anonymous contemporary described Nathan Rothschild at the London Stock Exchange as ‘he leaned against the 'Rothschild Pillar' [...], hung his heavy hands into his pockets, and began to release silent, motionless, implacable cunning’:

" ‘Eyes are usually called the windows of the soul. But in Rothschild's case you would conclude that the windows are false ones, or that there was no soul to look out of them. There comes not one pencil of light from the interior, neither is there one gleam of that which comes from without reflected in any direction. The whole puts you in mind of an empty skin, and you wonder why it stands upright without at least something in it. By and by another figure comes up to it. It then steps two paces aside, and the most inquisitive glance that you ever saw, and more inquisitive than you would ever have thought of, is drawn out of those fixed and leaden eyes, as if one were drawing a sword from a scabbard. The visiting figure, which has the appearance of coming by accident and not by design, stops just a second or two, in the course of which looks are exchanged which, though you cannot translate, you feel must be of most important meaning. After this, the eyes are sheathed up again, and the figure resumes its stony posture. During the morning, numbers of visitors come, all of whom meet with a similar reception and vanish in a similar manner. Last of all the figure itself vanishes, leaving you utterly at a loss...’ "

By the time of his death in 1836, due to an infected abscess, he had secured the position of the Rothschilds as the preeminent investment bankers in Britain and Europe.

More Examples

As pointed out above, the Rothschilds financed both sides and edged them on during the Napoleonic Wars. The same thing happened in Colonial America where the Rothschilds became active in the 18th century to try to take over the British colonies. Part I of this series on Understanding Money and War mentioned the role of Alexander Levine to deceive and cheat the early Americans.

During the American Revolutionary war with Britain, a Rothschild agent (and probable relative) named Haym Salomon was active in financing the American Revolution. Since the Rothschilds were also busy financing and supporting Britain, it meant that even this early the Rothschilds had learned the trick of financing both sides in wars and conflicts (Feb 2009 “The New Covenant Messenger”).

This Rothschild agitation and promotion of war also manifested itself in the American Civil War. In the North, their agent, August Schoenberg (who used the alias Belmont), provided the encouragement and money. In the South, they operated through Judah P. Benjamin and the Erlangers, Rothschild relatives (“None Dare Call It Conspiracy,” p. 40).

Which ever way these various wars went, the Rothschilds were winners. They couldn’t lose. The principle advantage of financing and controlling both sides in a war or conflict is that in controlling the winning side, the big boys get to come into the defeated nation and completely plunder and appropriate its remaining wealth.

During the US Civil War, which they promoted, the Rothschilds tried to get the US government to establish another Rothschild owned central bank. The Rothschild Bank in London sent a letter to its New York agents which said: “The few who understand the system will either be so interested in its profits, or so dependent on its favors that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantages that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting the system is inimical to their interests” (“Kill Zone,” p. 170). With opposition from Lincoln, this effort failed at that time.

With the power of the goldsmith category of people, it is no wonder that carpetbagger, Amalek-Edomite (these people are defined and discussed in the Hebrew Old Testament and in Volume X of Ezekiel and YHWH’s Judgment for the Good News People at www.age-end.com [at the left menu on Books and Links at www.analysis-news.com]) parasites were allowed to follow Nebuchadnezzar into Jerusalem in 554 BCE and with General U.S. Grant’s army into the defeated South in the 1860s to exploit, plunder and steal everything possible.

One can also see this reality, particularly in WWI and WWII, when the super rich controlling the US and the West got to steal much of the property and wealth of the defeated Ottoman Turks, Germans and Japanese. It might be argued that the United States and Britain, their taxpayers and their soldiers (who died on the battlefields) didn’t get much out of the World Wars; but rest assured that the fat cat international bankers cleaned up in gaining control of Japanese and German banking, commerce and industry (SONY--Standard Oil of NY?).

That’s why those wars and all the others (past, present and future) have been and are fought. Dominating greed for more and more profits and gains prompts the big money interests to promote, encourage and agitate wars on and on.

WWI

In WWI, Rothschild agents and relatives held many of the key jobs with both the United States and German governments. Paul Warburg was chairman of the Fed (thus controlling US money) and his brother Felix was a senior partner with Wall Street’s Kuhn Loeb & Company (“None Dare Call It Conspiracy,” p. 40-57).

In the meantime, their brother Max Warburg was running the Frankfurt, Germany branch of the Rothschild banking empire and in time took over the German Secret Service. In the eventual peace talks, brother Max came with the German delegation while brother Paul came with the Americans.

There should be no doubt about who those two Warburgs were serving in those meetings. It’s quite manifest that neither the interests of Germany or the United States had a fair shake in the talks. Contrariwise, one can be sure that the Rothschild banking empire (which the two Warburgs served and worked for) was taken care of, in terms of profits and gains.

The Promoters of War

Gutle Schnapper, wife of Mayer Amschel Rothschild, was once quoted as saying-- “If my sons did not want war, there would be none” (“The Serial Killers of Lincoln, JFK, RFK & MLK,” p. 12). These words from Gutle have much meaning in the vein of Genesis 27:40--in that certain people mentioned in the Hebrew Old Testament make money and their living from war.

The “Labour Leader” newspaper of Britain on 19 Dec 1891 referred to the Rothschilds and said: “This blood-sucking crew has been the cause of untold mischief and misery in Europe during the present century, and has piled up its prodigious wealth chiefly through fomenting wars between States which ought never to have quarreled. Wherever there is trouble in Europe, wherever rumors of war circulate and men’s minds are distraught with fear of change and calamity you may be sure that a hook-nosed Rothschild is at his games somewhere near the region of the disturbance” (ibid, p. 12).

In “Imperialism,” writer J. A. Hobson wrote: “No Great War could be undertaken by any European State...if the house of Rothschild and its connections set their face against it” (ibid, p, 25).

Writer Gary Allen suggests that Europe’s Rothschilds became incredibly wealthy in the 19th century by financing both sides in Europe’s various wars (“None Dare Call It Conspiracy,” p. 39). Allen also quoted Professor Stuart Crane who said that these European wars always ended with a certain “balance of power,” whose purpose was so that if any segment of the national groupings got out of line (and thus, needing punishment), in respect to the secret money power operating from behind the scenes, then another portion of Europe could be called upon to declare war on the wayward faction (ibid, p. 39).

In the vein of the notorious WWII leader Adolf Schicklgruber (who used the alias Hitler), this is precisely what happened to precipitate WWII and the slaughter of millions of European peoples--principally young men on the threshold of life. The role of Schicklgruber will be described in detail in Understanding Money and War—Part VII.

The bottom line on this report was well put by super rich Bernard Baruch, advisor to President Woodrow Wilson in WWI and President Franklin Rosenfeldt/Roosevelt in WWII. He said: "All wars are economic in origin" (from "Real Money," by Leuren Moret). For a really serious look at who causes these wars and why they are fought, please see Understanding Money and War--Part XIV.

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Understanding Money and War--Part III (http://www.analysis-news.com/allfolder/Understanding-III.htm)

The previous Understanding Money and War articles discussed at some length how the British conducted wars for profits. While the final chapters on the British adventures remain to be written, the fact remains that Britain has been highly successful at this game.

Early on, in US history, the Americans learned from the British that huge profits can be made from war. Thus, the US ruling plutocrats (like the Rothschilds) and their allies (like Paul Wolfowitz, to be discussed at length in Understanding Money and War, Parts IV-VI) cleaned up in the US 2003 conquest of Iraq.

Before it’s all over, JP Morgan Chase, Goldman Sachs, and the House of Rothschild will control the Iraqi oil, money and economy for the next many years--if things go according to plans. Frankly, I am not now totally convinced that the Rosenfeldt (alias Roosevelt) wisdom on things happening as planned will prevail much longer in the Middle East (FDR said if it happens in politics, it was planned that way). For sure, there seems to be some trouble coming down the pike for the ruling Western plutocrats in the Middle East (as will be discussed in the succeeding articles in this series).

Regardless of America’s future, the Rothschild cabal of money changers for the last 200 years has successfully caused wars all over Europe which made the Rothschild team absolute fortunes (as discussed in part II of this series). Now some more words will be shared from history on a marvelous revelation about how this team of evil British plutocrats ripped off South Africa in the 19th century.

The British Zulu War

Victoria became queen in 1837. The fat cat bankers in Britain and Victoria’s ministers went to work diligently to create the vast British Empire in the 19th century. With the death of Victoria in 1901, the sun did not set on the British Empire. Literally, it stretched around the world.

One of the most interesting and profoundly important Prime Ministers, under Victoria, was Benjamin Disraeli, a Christian Jew, who had enormous perception about reality. Disraeli first became Prime Minister in Feb 1868 with the Conservative party. He lost power to the Liberal party in December of that year when William Ewart Gladstone took over. But Gladstone had his troubles. So the Conservative party came back with Disraeli in Feb 1874.

Although Britain had Victoria on the throne as Queen, and had people like Disraeli ostensibly running the country, the real power by the 1830s was the House of Rothschild, as discussed at length in Understanding Money and War, Part II.

In furtherance of the British empire and perhaps because Britain began to have some understanding about the great wealth in South Africa, the British leaders and their Rothschild masters looked with envy upon much of South Africa, then largely controlled by the Boers or Afrikaners (Dutch people and French Huguenots). The essential problem facing the British plutocrats was how to steal this great wealth in South Africa.

British Lust

While Britain possessed the Cape Colony; the Orange Fee State, Transvaal and Natal were inhabited and controlled by the Boers. The British looked with lust in their hearts upon this Boer land. Victoria, Disraeli and the British plutocrats decided that they would proceed to steal all of it.

Many history books suggest that the vast gold and diamond fields in these old Boer lands were not really discovered and/or developed until the late 1880s. However, there are some reasons to suggest that some persons had some perception of the wealth there to spur the British government on in deciding to take the lands and make them become a part of the British Empire under Rothschild rule and control.

The problem that the British planners faced was how to steal the land and avoid having to fight a prolonged war with the Boers (actually, as things turned out, Britain and the Boers did eventually fight a war in 1899 to 1902 over these lands, but Britain made other efforts in the 1870s to avoid a war).

The method chosen by Britain was described by Dr Stan Monteith in his video on “9/11 Contrived.” Monteith says that the British came up with a method of stealing the Boer lands by creating a common enemy which would have to be opposed by both Britain and the Boers.

In other words, if my enemy and I carry a common enemy, we can be friends of sorts in opposition to our common enemy. Thus, in 1877, Britain created a common enemy which united the British and the Boers and allowed Britain to steal the Boer lands. The common enemy chosen was the Zulu Blacks, then living in Zululand, across the Buffalo River from Natal.

In his video, Dr Monteith says that the Zulus had been at peace with the Whites for thirty years. Manifestly, they did not want a war with the more militarily advanced Whites. But Britain made some impossible demands upon the Zulus, which laid the groundwork for the British-Zulu war of 1878-1879 (this British effort was much like the process George W. Bush followed to set the stage for his attack on Iraq. Bush made demands which were impossible for Saddam to accept).

While it is unclear what all has motivated the Zulus over the years, Dr Monteith mentions an interesting fact about them and their culture which probably affected their ability to fight. Monteith says that a Zulu warrior could not have a woman to bed down with until he had washed his spear in the blood of his enemy. Surely, this made many of the Zulu men anxious for a fight in order to kill their enemies.

The Conflict of 1878-1879

So, in 1877, Britain annexed the Boer lands and soon made demands on the Zulu nation which the Zulu King Cetywayo (he was made king in 1872) could not accept. War then came in 1878 and 1879. With the war, the British and the Boers were united against the common enemy and threat.

Accordingly, in January 1879, the British Commander-In-Chief in South Africa, a General named Lord Chelmsford, organized a 5,000 man army and proceeded to cross the Buffalo River and march into Zululand, ostensibly to seek out and destroy the Zulu army. Despite a major defeat at a place called Isandhlwana (with the loss of at least 1200 soldiers in the invasion force), the British invasion eventually succeeded and the Zulus were defeated (just as happened in Iraq with the GWB invasion and conquest in 2003).

Retired US Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler

In 1935, when the clouds were building up for WWII, Retired US Marine Corps General Smedley Butler had some wisdom to share with us today. It is absolutely fascinating to read Butler’s own words--in sort of an autobiography.

The Volume 6, 2001, issue of “Scriptures for America” (p. 3-4) quoted these remarks from Butler, evidently just after his retirement: “I spent 33 years and four months in active service as a member of our country’s most agile military force--the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from second lieutenant to Maj. Gen. And during that period, I spent most of my time being a high-class muscleman for big business, for Wall Street and for the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism.

“I suspected I was just a part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all members of the military profession, I never had an original thought until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of the higher-ups. This is typical with everyone in the military service.

“Thus, I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the national Citibank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-12. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China in 1927, I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested.

“During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, ‘a swell racket.’ I was rewarded with honors, metals and promotion. Looking back on it, I feel that I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three city districts. I operated on three continents.”

By the way, General Butler won two Congressional Medals of Honor and would have received a third one, but his gallantry came at a time when the Medal of Honor was forbidden to commissioned officers. He knew what he was talking about in the above comments.

In another illustration, many of us remember the great Steve McQueen movie on “The Sand Pebbles.” It was about a US Navy gun boat patrolling Chinese rivers in the years 1925 to 1928. General Butler spoke of his work in China in those troubling years.

And why was a United States ship of war patrolling Chinese rivers? Certainly, such efforts had absolutely nothing to do with the defense of the US (and were not authorized in the US Constitution). So why were we there? Well, General Butler revealed why. We were there to protect the Rockefeller oil interests. And so it goes.

In the 1939 John Ford movie “Stagecoach” (which propelled John Wayne into stardom), the banker character Ellsworth H. Gatewood said “What’s good for the banks is good for America.” In the “Li’l Abner” Broadway play, there was a super rich industrialist named General Bullmoose. Bullmoose had a take on the Gatewood line. He said: “What’s good for General Bullmoose is good for America.”

To prove the incredible accuracy of the wisdom of Gatewood and General Bullmoose, the Understanding Money and War series, Parts IV, V and VI, will address the US war on Iraq in 2003.

There is substantial evidence indicating that the reasons for the US invasion and conquest of Iraq were not because of the reasons cited by George W. Bush and his lackeys. There were more secret and clandestine causes involved, as will be proven in the later articles in this series.

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Understanding Money and War--Part IV (http://www.analysis-news.com/allfolder/Understanding-IV.htm)


When George W. Bush blew into Washington in January 2001, he brought with him a team of players known as the neo-cons. These so-called new conservatives were considerably different people than the old post WWII Republican conservatives like Barry Goldwater, Robert Taft and Strom Thurman.

It appears that many of the neo-cons were actually former liberal Democrats who found that the Republican Party under the Bushes offered far more monetary rewards (profits) than were to be found in the Democrat Party.

For some background on this situation, the US political structure was at a crossroads in the 1990s with the fall of the Communist bogie man in Russia. The US post WWII economy had been built on deficit spending of vast sums of dollars to supposedly oppose communism. With this era at a supposed end, something new would have to be sold to the American people in order to continue the vast spending programs initiated earlier.

The Democrat solution was to create a brand new, super welfare state with vast sums of dollars being spent on socialist programs both at home and abroad. While the Republican plan was more subtle and not immediately recognizable, it did eventually crystallize with George W. Bush and his newly defined axis of evil. This axis of evil concept soon created the 9-11 incident and the so-called war on terrorism.

So while the Democrats wanted to spend money on new social welfare programs (and will be doing so fervently in the Obama administration), Bush and the Republicans opted to spend money for continuous wars against the axis of evil. The so-called neo-cons early on must have seen the developing political conflict and decided that they could make more money and profits with war than they could with social welfare programs.

In this sense, they had the mentality of the Rothschilds who early on saw that wars could be very profitable. In the case of the Bush axis of evil, its components included two of the richest Middle East oil states—Iraq and Iran. Iraq is believed to be the second largest holder of oil reserves in the world. Obviously, for people interested in war profits, a war with Iraq was on the immediate agenda of the neo-cons and their plutocratic allies/bosses.

Once things got settled in and the process of war became the US national objective and priority, Bush selected a so-called neo-con named Paul Wolfowitz (hereafter to be appropriately called “Wolf” in this article) to be the Deputy Secretary of Defense under Donald Rumsfeld. The plan was that Rumsfeld would be the figure head man running the day to day operations of the Defense Department while Wolf would be the behind the scenes planner to map out the Bush war program.

Once Bush gave the Pentagon the green light for an attack on Saddam Hussein and Iraq, Wolf, the planner, made the plans for the invasion and later continuous occupation of Iraq to allow the plutocrats to steal as much of Iraq’s oil as possible. From his work, he became known as the architect of the US war in Iraq. In a sense, the success and/or failure of the US adventure in Iraq must be laid to the ideas, work and thinking of the Wolf. Since he has been and is so crucial in terms of discussing world history, some background data on him is essential.

Paul “Wolf” Wolfowitz

Except for stints at being a college professor, Paul seems to have spent most of his adult life in work for the US government. Thus, when Bush flew into Washington, it was only natural that the Wolf would get a key role with Bush. Almost immediately, the Wolf was tapped to be the Director of the CIA.

But an obstacle surfaced to cause the Bush team to back off on the CIA option. Per various reports, Wolf’s wife Clare wrote the president a letter laying out what a bad person Wolf was and his involvement with a foreign national. The backdrop for Mrs. Wolfowitz’s letter goes back to his earlier work in the 1990s (as discussed at length in Wikipedia and other biographical sources).

Back in the 1990s, Wolf was on the Board of Directors of the “National Endowment for Democracy.” At that time, the Endowment had a pretty young girl employee named Shasha Ali Riza who caught the eyes and attention of the Wolf. Though Shasha was a subordinate employee under the supervision of the Wolf, and though both of them were married persons, it did not stop or interfere in the Wolf’s plans for him to have some fun and pleasure in life.

There was another hitch too. It turns out that the Wolf was a dedicated Zionist Jew and member of AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee). But the girl just happened to be an Arab feminist alien from Saudi Arabia (and likely a Muslin Arab at that). So a question surfaces on how in the world could a dedicated, neo-con, Zionist Jew actually decide to bed down an Arab feminist? Well, in sexual matters, it often is true that there is no conscience or right or wrong. Lust is the governing factor.

By 1999, Shasha had divorced her husband and she and the Wolf were openly and publicly dating. In 2002, Wolf took the next step by divorcing his (apparently Jewish) wife Clare of thirty years so he could marry or at least shack up with Shasha (reportedly, his one true love).

So naturally, when Bush was thinking about Paul for the CIA, his wife Clare wrote the president and detailed how bad he was. This made Bush back off. But ultimately, Wolf’s connections came through and he ended up being the number two man at the Pentagon.

It is not clear where Shasha went once Wolf became a big shot with Bush. She had a job for a while with the US State Department. It is very probable that whatever she did, Wolf was involved someway. Likely, he pressured someone to hire her.

By early 2005, Wolf had made such a mess in Iraq that Bush decided to move him up to be president of the World Bank. By then or soon thereafter, Shasha became an employee of the World Bank.

This put the Wolf once again in the role of being the supervisor of Shasha. Since they were lovers on the side, this presented an irreconcilable conflict of interest for the bank president to be hitting it off with a girl under his direct supervision (this practice violated bank rules which prohibited sexual contact of supervisors with subordinates).

But this issue didn’t hold the Wolf back. Soon, he promoted Shasha and gave her two substantial pay raises. With this situation, Wolf’s romance with Shasha became one of the primary topics for gossip at the bank. Along with his affair with Shasha, Paul liked to travel on junket trips around the world (it is not clear how many times that Paul took Shasha along on his trips but surely as much as possible). World Bank directors became concerned with Paul’s excessive traveling and with the gossip about Shasha.

So eventually, Paul arranged for Shasha to have a good job making $60,000 a year with the US State Department (this is a common practice for US government big shots to put their lovers and mistresses on the US payroll with do-nothing jobs. If you remember, Slick Clinton did that with several of his girl friends—including Monica Lewinsky).

But as the media links surfaced, and as much embarrassment came to the World Bank, the bank’s directors forced Paul to resign in 2007, after only two years of service. He is now a “visiting scholar” with the American Enterprise, a neo-con think tank which has provided continuous support for the GWB’s wars on terrorism.

Why Iraq

While the huge oil wealth in Iraq certainly provided a key motivation for the plutocrat war on Iraq and for the involvement of Paul in its execution, some facts have been emerging over the past couple of years or so which ties the Wolf into the Rothschild cabal (this is to be expected since they are blood relatives of sorts). As a minimum, these facts may reveal Paul’s obsession with Iraq and may have influenced him to be one of the leading proponents of war on Iraq.

It seems that back in his dating days with Shasha, Paul and Shasha had common views on many issues of the day—including Iraq and Saddam. Various apologists of the couple have suggested that the feminist Shasha wanted a change to democracy in the Middle East, starting with Iraq. Why she wanted to start with Saddam is not clear since his policies in Iraq were always liberal in terms of women. Contrariwise, the Saudis have been very oppressive toward women.

One must wonder why Shasha disliked the Iraqis so much while having no complaints over the Saudis. In any case, she allegedly wanted a regime change in Iraq. And as it turned out, the Wolf agreed 100%. Regardless of whatever motivation Shasha had, it has manifestly become clear over time that money and profits completely dominated the thinking of the Wolf. It boggles the mind how these two people could get together and agree on anything. Maybe it was all about the bed and pleasure.

While in the Iraq war planning stage, one of the things which Paul and his planners well knew was that with the invasion there would be a breakdown of law and order in Iraq. The US military would have to provide it or there wouldn’t be any.

As it turns out, the Wolf plans provided for US troops to secure and safeguard certain things while ignoring other things. For example, US troops took immediate action to secure and protect the oil fields while doing nothing to secure and protect the Iraqi museum which housed priceless archeological finds (including many gold and silver artifacts) going back over 5,000 years ago to the earliest chapters of the book of Genesis.

The museum had priceless artifacts that had withstood the trials of war, weather and history—including the ancient Mongol invasions. Yet, under Bush and the Wolf plan, these priceless items were not secured. They were plundered and stolen in a matter of hours following the US invasion. The museum had something like some 100,000 ancient clay tablets which had never been translated and read (what did they say? Who knows?). Now, they are largely gone.

The mention of this theft of ancient artifacts and treasures is necessary to alert readers to be very careful on making purchases of any such items on the open market without some checking and verification. For sure, the thieves, who made off with this loot, will be trying to sell it in future days. While a buyer may enjoy it for awhile, there is always the prospect of detection and the loss of the investment.

Another thing which received no protection from the US troops was the Iraqi Central Bank. Yet, while troops didn’t secure it, evidence has surfaced that the US CIA sent agents to it at once to literally steal the bank’s holdings of money and gold and other precious metals.

In a August 20, 2003 “American Free Press” story by Gordon Thomas on “CIA Accused of Bank Heist,” information surfaced that the CIA did raid the Iraqi Central Bank and made off with some $10 billion in money and other assets (which surely would have included whatever gold the bank had in its vault; there should have been some quantity of gold stored in the bank because it was being used to back the Iraqi dinar under Saddam).

Per the story, this stolen money was laundered thru the Discount Bank of Israel, the Credit Suisse of Switzerland and the Dresdner Bank in Germany. Serious allegations have since surfaced stating that the Rothschilds ended up with this money. For sure, neither the US or Iraq got it.

What happened to this money and/or gold held by the Iraqi Central Bank? Who knows? Well, no one seems to know for sure unless it is Paul Wolfowitz and his Rothschild colleagues. The Wolf man also worked another little scheme in Iraq which was to bring him and the Rothschild banking empire vast profits.

With the US invasion and conquest, the former Iraqi government controlled Central Bank was out of business. Whatever assets it had, they were quickly stolen or plundered and gone for all purposes.

For a time the conquering US allowed the Iraqi people to continue to use the old Iraqi currency (dinars with Saddam’s picture on the notes). But under the Wolf plan, this was not to last long. Just as Alexander Levine was instrumental in establishing a Rothschild owned US Bank (as briefly cited in a previous article in this series and to be further discussed at length in a later article in this series), Paul Wolfowitz made plans to establish a Rothschild, privately-owned, Central Bank of Iraq.

This new privately owned central bank came into existence in 2004. Per the Wikipedia Internet Encyclopedia, the new private Iraqi central bank has the following powers:
maintaining inflation stability
implementing monetary policy (including exchange rates policies)
managing the state's reserves
issuing and managing the Iraqi dinar
regulating private banks.

As is true throughout the Christian West, the new Iraqi Central Bank has almost unlimited power to govern the Iraqi economy, its oil wells and its money, Of course, this is a Rothschild dream world.

Whereas US authorities did allow the old Iraqi dinar to circulate for awhile, action was taken in the fall of 2003 to issue a new Iraqi dinar (without the picture of Saddam on it). This new dinar was turned over exclusively to the new privately owned Iraqi Central Bank.

With this backdrop, it is easy to see much of the motivation for the US invasion and conquest of Iraq. As publicly known in various commodity market circles, Saddam made the mistake of trying to abandon the US dollar in oil sales. Instead he turned Iraq to the use of gold and the EURO for its international currency transactions. With that decision, he was a dead man. The plutocrat bankers made immediate plans to destroy him and completely take over his country.

There is one particular thing that seems to be totally taboo and off limits in our modern culture and society in most public discussions on the national level. It is to question the role of the Rothschilds and other plutocrats to exclusively own and control our money. Anyone trying to speak against or alter this situation is in trouble by all the powers of government.

With their takeover, as planned and arranged in the Wolfowitz war plans for Iraq, the Rothschild manipulators have completely taken over the Iraqi money system and economy. For persons reading recent newspapers, a number of US and British oil interests have signed contracts with Iraq to control the Iraqi oil production and distribution for the coming future. Chevron (a Rockefeller company) and British Petroleum (a Rothschild company) lead the pack.

This US takeover of Iraq offers huge possibilities for vast profits with the great oil wealth that the nation possesses. These possibilities will be further addressed at length in the next two coming articles on the Understanding Money and War.

[Bosco]

Understanding Money and War--Part V (http://www.analysis-news.com/allfolder/Understanding-V.htm)


The previous articles in this series on the Understanding Money and War detailed the backdrop for the US-Iraq war and how the money and wealth of that nation has been placed into the hands of the Rothschilds and their plutocratic allies—through the help and assistance of Paul “Wolf” Wolfowitz. This article will continue that same vein but with a focus on the Iraqi currency—the dinar.

In the summer of 2008, I met a woman working in a store here in Idaho who had had a bad experience with Paul Wolfowitz. Per her story, she and her husband had been induced by an alleged Wolfowitz representative to invest their life savings into Iraqi dinars (being sold by Wolf or one of his companies) on the premise that the dinar would go up and they would make a lot of money.

As she told it, they had originally invested some $25,000 which was then apparently worth something under $10,000 when she spoke to me (if you could find a buyer).

While she did not give me the exact date of their purchase of the new dinar, it was at least three years earlier and perhaps while the Wolf was at the Pentagon or while he was President of the World Bank (his tenures at the Pentagon and World Bank are detailed in Part IV of this series). This event and some later developments on the dinar forced me to go to the Internet and do a little searching to determine its present status.

What I Found

Per Wikipedia and other sources, I found out that the old dinar, with Saddam’s picture on it, was continued to be used for a while by the Iraqis after the US conquest in March 2003. On Oct 15, 2003, the US power began issuing a new dinar. Both the old one and new one circulated together for a few months before phasing out the old one as legal tender.

Once the newly formed Rothschild owned Central Bank of Iraq came into power in 2004 (which has been guarded by US troops 24/7 ever since it came into being), the bank made a provision to exchange new dinars for the old dinars, on a one for one basis. After the close date in 2004, the old dinar became worthless. There was a plan too to make good on the old Iraqi bonds and state indebtedness though I do not have the particulars on this effort at this time.

In 2003, President Bush signed a presidential order (#13303) to allow US citizens to invest money in Iraq (this opened the door for people like Wolfowitz to begin buying up depressed Iraqi assets—to include Iraqi money and bonds).

By early 2004, several companies were in the business of selling new Iraqi dinars to the public—worldwide (an interested reader can now go to the internet and find a whole array of listed companies selling the dinar. It appears that one or more of these companies selling dinars have been owned and/or controlled by Wolfowitz).

By then, in 2004, the newly formed, privately owned, Rothschild Central Bank was in charge of the Iraqi dinar. This bank took over the new dinar and has done the selling of it thereafter. Wolfowitz allegedly became one of the big sellers of Iraqi dinars which he either bought on the market or obtained from the plutocrat owned Iraqi Central Bank. It’s hard for me to believe that Wolfowitz began his selling operations while he was at the Pentagon. But it’s possible.

My guess is that his efforts probably started in secret while he was president of the World Bank, and while he was sacking out with Shaha Riza (as discussed in Part IV of this series). If the Wolf was involved selling dinars while he was at the World Bank, this would have been one more charge against him to force him out (which is what happened).

It seems that Wolfowitz and his fellow dinar salesmen sell the new dinars they have in their possession (as they purchase and obtain them from the Rothschild banking empire or as they otherwise obtain them), they make far reaching promises of the buyers becoming rich and wealthy from the dinars. After all, Iraq is an oil rich country. If the government there can successfully sell the oil, the dinar should accelerate up in value.

The drawback which the Iraqi dinar salesmen never mention is that the US occupation government and its local puppet Iraqi players are passionately hated by the Iraqi people. The only power and influence the US and the puppet Iraqi government have is with the armed might of the US military and in the fortifications of the green zone (the US militarily protected enclave holding the US military and the puppet Iraqi government).

Consequently, the Rothschild owned Central Bank of Iraq continues to exist because it is guarded and protected daily by US troops (back in the Saddam days, the Iraqi Central Bank was a part of the government; when the US took over, the bank became privately owned by the plutocrat big bankers, like the Rothschilds). Actually, the US JP Morgan-Chase Bank now runs the Iraqi Central Bank (per www.newsvine.com). This bank is owned/controlled by the House of Rothschild.

The Rothschild control of the Iraqi Central Bank is well documented at over 50 Internet sites offering alternative news (on this, an interested person can enter “Iraqi Central Bank” and Rothschild and Google will list the multiple sites). WWW.fourwinds10.com has an excellent summary of Rothschild control over the Iraqi Central Bank.

Several internet sources indicate that in the early years of the US occupation, the N. M. Rothschild Bank of London worked with Ahmed Chalabi (the Iraqi citizen who worked with the US to bring on the US invasion of Iraq) to gain control of the Iraqi money and wealth.

Now that the Rothschild owned American bank, JP Morgan-Chase, is in charge of the Iraqi Central Bank, it is likely that Chalabi’s influence is not now being used for control of the Iraqi money (for more on this theme, the reader may check www.dailykos.com).

If and when the Iraqis ever gain freedom from the US governing authorities, we can bank on it that the Rothschild, privately-owned, Iraqi Central Bank and the Rothschild issued dinar will both be out of business. Many people know this.

Accordingly, the sales of these new dinars have had problems and particularly since this money oscillates up and down (this is a normal Rothschild trick—to oscillate money up and down in the markets so that they can make huge profits with the oscillations).

The value of these new dinars floats on the basis of the US dollar. The range of values has fluctuated from 4,000 dinars to one dollar to 1,000 dinars to one dollar. With such a huge spread, it is easy to see that the insiders doing the manipulations are making barrels of money on selling dinars to the American public.

I have later learned that the Rothschilds and their US Company (JP Morgan-Chase) are also heavily involved in the direct sales of these dinars. Allegedly, JPMC has bought up a vast quantity of these dinars, anticipating that they will indeed go up if the US is able to stabilize the country and start the flow of money in from the sale of the Iraqi oil.

Of course, stories that Wolfowitz and/or JPMC have been buying dinars could be the pitch used to bring American buyers on board so that they can be dumped on.

The conclusion of this matter involving Wolf, the Rothschilds and Iraq will be concluded in the next Understanding Money and War, Part VI.

By R. D. Bradshaw

[Bosco]

The Rothschild family is slowly but surely having their Central banks established in every country of this world, giving them incredible amount of wealth and power.

In the year of 2000 there were seven countries without a Rothschild owned Central Bank:

Afghanistan
Iraq
Sudan
Libya
Cuba
North Korea
Iran

It is not a coincidence that these country, which are listed above were and are still being under attack by the western media, since one of the main reasons these countries have been under attack in the first place is because they do not have a Rothschild owned Central Bank yet. The first step in having a Central Bank establish in a country is to get them to accept an outrageous loans, which puts the country in debt of the Central Bank and under the control of the Rothschilds. If the country does not accept the loan, the leader of this particular country will be assassinated and a Rothschild aligned leader will be put into the position, and if the assassination does not work, the country will be invaded and have a Central Bank established with force all under the name of terrorism.

Rothschild owned Central Bank:

Central banks are illegally created private banks that are owned by the Rothschild banking family. The family has been around for more than 230 years and has slithered its way into each country on this planet, threatened every world leader and their governments and cabinets with physical and economic death and destruction, and then emplaced their own people in these central banks to control and manage each country’s pocketbook. Worse, the Rothschilds also control the machinations of each government at the macro level, not concerning themselves with the daily vicissitudes of our individual personal lives. Except when we get too far out of line.

The only countries left in 2003 without a Central Bank owned by the Rothschild Family were:

Sudan
Libya
Cuba
North Korea
Iran

The only countries left in 2011 without a Central Bank owned by the Rothschild Family are:

Cuba
North Korea
Iran

After the instigated protests and riots in the Arab countries the Rothschild finally paved their way into establishing Central Banks, and getting rid of many leaders, which put them into more power.

Question: Where the Attacks of September 11th an inside job to invade Afghanistan and Iraq to then establish a Central Bank in those countries?
There is mounting evidence to suggest that this is in fact the case. History would also suggest that this is not only plausible but feasible.

It's good to the King.

[Bosco]

Understanding Money and War--Part VI (http://www.analysis-news.com/allfolder/Understanding-VI.htm)

Alexander Levine

Historically, in early America, there was an old saying used to define something as being worthless. The saying was that something was “not worth a Continental.” And that backdrop brings up the present issue on the Understanding Money and War.

During the American Revolutionary War with the British, the Continental Congress issued paper Continental currency. After the war, there was concern in many quarters about whether or not the Continentals would be redeemed and/or would they end up being worthless.

In the aftermath of the war, the powerful Rothschilds and their international banking colleagues floated the story that the Continentals were worthless and would never be redeemed. Their value depreciated with every passing day. But all the while that the Rothschilds and their fat cat US agents were publicly criticizing and denigrating the Continentals, with one hand, they were secretly buying them up for pennies on the dollar with the other hand.

For many of the early Americans, they were happy to salvage whatever they could from the Continentals because otherwise they were believed to be worthless and of no value.

Well, this is the background for the entrance of one of the plutocrats’ most trusted and powerful agents—a man named Alexander Levine, who was trained in banking in the West Indies. On arriving in the US, he pulled a quick act of fraud on the New Yorkers by changing his name to one which he could use to better deceive and cheat them. He chose the name Hamilton (Hamilton/Levine has been briefly addressed to some extent in earlier articles in this series and in this writer’s Goldsmiths articles).

As a young man, Alexander Hamilton linked in with George Washington in the Revolutionary War. He became Washington’s secretary and aide-de-camp. After the war, Alexander’s ties with George paid off and he became the first US Secretary of the Treasury. In the early years of the United States government, under Washington, Alex became entrusted by the fat cat bankers with two missions.

His first job was to help his Rothschild relatives and friends with the establishment of the First US Bank. Next, Alex was entrusted with a second mission. His task was to make sure the Continentals were fully redeemed by the US government (since by then, the international bankers had bought up most of them for pennies on the dollar). Alex was somewhat successful (he was totally successful with the Continentals but only partially successful with a US central bank). For sure, Alex helped the Rothschilds and other fat cats make absolute fortunes in early American history.

By the way, the “Concise Columbia Encyclopedia” describes Hamilton by saying that “he hoped to strengthen the federal government and tie to men of wealth” (p. 362, 1983 edition). Hamilton was a federalist who believed in a strong central government to rule the US supreme. He was opposed by a number of prominent Americans, including Thomas Jefferson who was defined as a populist, interested in the future of the common man (since the nation was agrarian at that time, Jefferson was allied with the farmers).

As is known by most students of the Federal Reserve Bank, Jefferson disapproved of the idea of a Rothschild owned US central bank, as occurred with the First US Bank. He also disapproved of a big central government and paper money not backed by gold/silver.

As discussed in earlier articles in this series, the Rothschilds early on learned the techniques of how to use deception and skullduggery to literally steal whole nations. They did so in the Napoleonic Wars in the early 19th century in Britain and have done so numerous other times over the ages.

As they work this scam, they take action to collapse a currency, bonds or some other asset in a nation. Once the item(s) involved are crashed, virtually down to the garbage can, Rothschild agents secretly begin buying up the crashed item(s) for pennies on the dollar. Once they own all or most of the currency or other assets, they then pressure the government involved to make the asset(s) good.

In more modern times, the super rich plutocrat George Soros has worked this scam any number of times to rip off currencies and assets around the globe. His most notable efforts were in Malaysia in recent years where his insider dealings were exposed.

In 1997, during the currency crisis in Malaysia, Dr. Mahathir Mohamad, the Malaysian Prime Minister, reported that the Jews (in probable reference to George Soros) were responsible for the crisis (as discussed on the G. Gordon Liddy Radio Talk Show program of Nov 13, 1997). By the way, Soros is a close associate and apparent relative of the Rothschilds.

The Iraqi Case

To demonstrate how this scam has occurred under George W. Bush, let us go back to the Understanding Money and War, Parts IV and V, which addressed the work of the crafty Paul Wolfowitz and the Rothschild banking empire to take over the Iraqi money system.

In trying to assess these efforts, my first inclination was that surely Wolf and his Rothschild mentors moved in on the old Iraqi dinars and obtained possession of most of them (maybe like their earlier relatives did with the old Continentals after the Revolutionary War).

I have already related the story from Gordon Thomas and the American Free Press of Aug 20, 2003 about how the CIA raided the old Iraqi Central Bank and made off with its money, gold and whatever of value found there (as related in Part IV of this series).

I don’t know how many of the old dinars were stolen in this raid. But there should have been quite a supply of them at the Iraqi Central Bank. And if so, where did they go? My own belief is that Wolfowitz and his Rothschild relatives and colleagues ended up with much of the monetary assets of the CIA raid on the Iraqi Central Bank. Since Paul was in charge of the Iraqi war, he already had plans made that there would be a new dinar and that the old dinar would be 100% convertible to the new one.

Once the Rothschild privately owned Iraqi Central Bank came into being in 2004, it all became academic anyway. Just as the US Federal Reserve answers to no one (except its owners), we can be sure that the privately owned Iraqi Central Bank will answer to no one beyond its corporate owners (which are the Rothschilds and other big bankers).

More

I have also learned some other things on how the fat cat plutocrats are now in the process of making another huge stack of profits on a deal that they have been working on in Iraq. It appears that Bear Stearns and Merrill Lynch had some worthless packaged mortgages which nothing could be or can be done about. But they also had a lot of (currently) worthless, old, Iraqi bonds, alongside the mortgages. Lehman Brothers did not have many Iraqi bonds.

With this backdrop, JP Morgan-Chase bought Bear Stearns and Bank of America bought Merrill Lynch. This worked out well because those same banks also have much Iraqi currency and bonds. When you add the holdings of the failing companies in with the surviving big banks, it means the survivors now have a hoard of Iraqi money and bonds.

The fat cats seemingly let Lehman Brothers go bankrupt possibly because they didn’t have any assets like that in their portfolio. But as a sidelight on this, the top brass of Lehman are now a part of an organization in the Middle East that has something to do with setting oil prices. So they are not being left out of the loop entirely.

When the current Iraq war broke out, the old Iraqi dinars went to near worthless (which we can be sure were bought up by Rothschild agents like Wolf). Subsequently, the Rothschilds had a hand in creating the new Iraqi dinar (which was all spiffed up with good security features, etc.). While the war has been going on since Mar 2003, the plutocrat team players have been acquiring huge quantities of the Iraqi dinars and bonds.

First, they picked up vast quantities of the old dinars which were made good in 2004 with the exchange proviso to the new dinar. And now, since 2004, they have been acquiring the new dinars and either holding them or selling them to the public (along with the work of the Rothschild owned central bank sales of dinars to the public).

Some days ago, I understand that Goldman Sachs (another Rothschild US Company) was given permission to convert itself into a regular bank. All normal waiting times and red tape to do this were waived. This bank supposedly has $1.1 trillion in assets (too, Warren Buffet has invested 5 billion into this new operation and, supposedly, it is the first time he’s invested in a bank in decades). As it turns out, Goldman Sachs is also flush with Iraqi bonds.

The reason Goldman Sachs needed to be a bank is so that when the Iraqi dinar is stabilized and increased in value from oil sales (which will be an engineered maneuver, courtesy of the Rothschilds) those Iraqi assets will suddenly, magically become worth much. This is a once in a lifetime event because there’ll never be another country as potentially rich as Iraq (2nd largest oil reserves in the world) whose currency and bonds have been engineered to be worthless to give the big boys a chance to hop on them and really clean up.

The events described above on the Iraqi situation help establish why the US invaded that nation in 2003. Obviously, the whole exercise was undertaken to make vast new profits for the plutocrat masters and neo-cons now ruling the US. For sure, we can bank on it that the fat cats have and will make absolute fortunes on the Iraqi thing before the dust settles.

But once more, there is a word of caution here. Just as the new dinar has had wide swings up and down in value, it could easily go to the garbage can if and when US forces leave Iraq and the people of Iraq gain control of their nation. When that happens, we can be sure that the Rothschild Central Bank and the present Rothschild approved dinar will both go down the tubes.

Finally, there remain some questions about the US war to make money for the plutocrats and neo-cons and particularly about the gold formerly held by the Iraqi government at the old Iraqi Central Bank. What happened to this gold? Was it laundered by some mining company? Did the Rothschilds get it? Has it been sold on the open gold market to drive gold prices down?

As touched upon in the Goldsmiths, Part XXX, the CIA was in possession of this gold as well as likely a large sum of gold found in the Philippines and Europe after WWII. The CIA could have easily made this gold available to the Fed or Treasury to manipulate and control the gold markets for the last 40 years.

[Bill Cosby]

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I watched half of your clip~ why should I watch the rest of it???

What is your point???

[Bosco]

JfWe8qVabsE&feature=player_embedded#!

I watched half of your clip~ why should I watch the rest of it???

What is your point???

FDR was rattling on about those bankers in 36 during that recession trying to figure out how to get the US out of financial trouble, all the while also trying to get the US into WWII. The Hitler speech was prior to WWII talks about those speeches?, then we went to war (much like, the war I think we are headed into in regards to Iran, ME) in which we didn't recover from the 29/33 crash until after the war in 1947 when the troops came home. That's my point. History is about to repeat itself.

The point I was making is simple, central banking is central - and isnt specific to any country or region is about making money globally. It destroy's and create's simultaneously. The rich get richer, the poor get fucked, and die or killed.

What we have today in the economy is no different then what we had in the 20's of even previously, only today we have a globally economy with a US Dollars as the reserves. I don't think this is in conflict with any previous history when looked at it from a central banking lens.

I would try and detail this a bit better but I have an broken back per se, and take whole host of pain meds, and just cant do it or I would, its just easier to play the fool and have fun, but occasionally these kinds of things come to me where I have to just say fuck it and try. lol =\

[Bosco]

I like comment by Knud Bjeld Eriksen in the summary on the book by Douglas Reed, "The Controversy of Zion"

The 19th Century belonged to the revolutionary conspiracies of both Zionism and Communism, which unfolded in the 20th Century. It was also in that Century, that the physical ghetto was replaced by a mental one: the fear of “Antisemitism”. In Jewish families, the question was whether to further Revolutionary Communism or Revolutionary Zionism (Weizmann). It ended up being both. Communism should tear down all nations. Zionism should establish one. A World Government without an address was becoming a fashion, which has been followed undeviatingly all through the 20th Century.

I believe its been able to manifest itself through the central world banking monopolies, and what I believe to the the real definition of Zionism. Not all Jews are Zionists, and not all Zionists are Jews. Its the extremely wealthy versus the average person.

[Bill Cosby]

FDR was rattling on about those bankers in 36 during that recession trying to figure out how to get the US out of financial trouble, all the while also trying to get the US into WWII. The Hitler speech was prior to WWII talks about those speeches?, then we went to war (much like, the war I think we are headed into in regards to Iran, ME) in which we didn't recover from the 29/33 crash until after the war in 1947 when the troops came home. That's my point. History is about to repeat itself.

The point I was making is simple, central banking is central - and isnt specific to any country or region is about making money globally. It destroy's and create's simultaneously. The rich get richer, the poor get fucked, and die or killed.

What we have today in the economy is no different then what we had in the 20's of even previously, only today we have a globally economy with a US Dollars as the reserves. I don't think this is in conflict with any previous history when looked at it from a central banking lens.

I would try and detail this a bit better but I have an broken back per se, and take whole host of pain meds, and just cant do it or I would, its just easier to play the fool and have fun, but occasionally these kinds of things come to me where I have to just say fuck it and try. lol =\

I dunno the history of central banking..... & honestly I am not real interested in discussing it either............ SOrry.....

FDR, nor is any man totally innocent, especially one w/ such great power.......

Personally I don't care what hitler's opinion is of FDR or anyone actually....

He felt FDR was pushing for war, & that's cause he was.......

I think ppl tend to want to make things about good vs bad, the evil vs the good guys.......

I tend to see it differently-none of them are good........

The Mexican Mafia, the Crips, the Bloods, the Gambino family...... Which is the good one & which is the bad one??? :dunno:

[Bill Cosby]

I like comment by Knud Bjeld Eriksen in the summary on the book by Douglas Reed, "The Controversy of Zion"



I believe its been able to manifest itself through the central world banking monopolies, and what I believe to the the real definition of Zionism. Not all Jews are Zionists, and not all Zionists are Jews. Its the extremely wealthy versus the average person.


I am not interested in conspiracy theories either...... I find them very, very boring............

Sure ppl conspire, I just think they do so poorly...... Often times ppl believe they have found some hidden truth, & the blanks are filled in w/ what was not done or said......... Que sera, sera...........

[Bosco]

I dunno the history of central banking..... & honestly I am not real interested in discussing it either............ SOrry.....

I am not interested in conspiracy theories either...... I find them very, very boring............

Sure ppl conspire, I just think they do so poorly...... Often times ppl believe they have found some hidden truth, & the blanks are filled in w/ what was not done or said......... Que sera, sera...........

So following the money is a conspiracy then?, and central banking doesn't concern you, yet you attempt to project the impression of giving a shit in the US and current Global affairs?

I've never figured out what is or isnt a conspiracy theory or fact, I guess if it fits your agenda its a legit theory for you personally?

If its the Zionism terms I used, I get that, but the IMF, World Bank, Federal Reserve, these are not conspiracies these are real entities that are privately owned, and that public information. Again following the money I would think is still relevant.

No worries, I was just commenting on the FDR video. Never heard it before, it worked nicely with the Hitler video. :thumbsup:

[Bill Cosby]

So following the money is a conspiracy then?, and central banking doesn't concern you, yet you attempt to project the impression of giving a shit in the US and current Global affairs?

I've never figured out what is or isnt a conspiracy theory or fact, I guess if it fits your agenda its a legit theory for you personally?

If its the Zionism terms I used, I get that, but the IMF, World Bank, Federal Reserve, these are not conspiracies these are real entities that are privately owned, and that public information. Again following the money I would think is still relevant.

No worries, I was just commenting on the FDR video. Never heard it before, it worked nicely with the Hitler video. :thumbsup:

Take a sip of your energy drink & read what I wrote- I said it did not interest me, I never said anything about concerns.........

I have repeated that FDR comment many times........ Especially after the last election when obama began to do just the opposite.........

Many dems were saying he is trying, he wants this or that & they gave me a hard time for reminding them about this..........

My other favorite FDR is "I wanna do this, now make me do it"..............

Honestly most just don't seem to see the significance of that statement.......

Oh well..............

OoJK7PymvtA

[Bosco]

I said it did not interest me, I never said anything about concerns.........

you're playing words games now, how can you honestly pretend to debate, discuss, and talk about anything if you don't want to understand the root of the problem's? This makes no sense to me.

But, I guess it does when you consider why the right and left chase their tail every election cycle. I guess get it. Follow the money, until you actually have to really do your own research and not given an opinion through the popular media?

[Big Dog]

All right Bosco, I read it. Admittedly, I skim read some parts, a lot of it I am already familiar with.

Hitler did not want to go to war with Britain, this is well known. Of course once he had control of Europe, he would have stabbed them in the back like he did Russia.

FDR bailed out the FED by making it illegal for Americans to own gold. FDR was in on the thievery. As was another great Democrat Socialist hero, Woodrow Wilson who with democrat partisan support created the FED.

I believe it was England that first passed fractional lending laws in the 1600's. Are you implying there is a Zionist connection to that?

So what's your plan to take down the global banking conspiracy (and not just in America)?

"One frequently quoted passage from the work of John Maynard Keynes is that "the best way to destroy the capitalist system [is] to debauch the currency." The passage, attributed to Vladimir Illyich Lenin, appears in Keynes' book The Economic Consequences of the Peace."

Cosby is an (Lee Harvey) Oswaldian communist, which is why he takes offense to this topic. Old Blue Blood Bill hopes to secure himself an Aristocratic position in the new communist regime he hopes to bring about, in America.



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[Bill Cosby]

you're playing words games now, how can you honestly pretend to debate, discuss, and talk about anything if you don't want to understand the root of the problem's? This makes no sense to me.

But, I guess it does when you consider why the right and left chase their tail every election cycle. I guess get it. Follow the money, until you actually have to really do your own research and not given an opinion through the popular media?


???? You are over intellectualizing this-it means just what I said-it does not interest me, I don't wanna talk about it-it is boring!!!!! :disbelief: It actually is just that simple............

I agree democrats & republicans chase their tails, that right~left sterotype is worthless as far as I am concerned, both those parties are on the right.....:thumbsup:

[Bill Cosby]

All right Bosco, I read it. Admittedly, I skim read some parts, a lot of it I am already familiar with.

Hitler did not want to go to war with Britain, this is well known. Of course once he had control of Europe, he would have stabbed them in the back like he did Russia.

FDR bailed out the FED by making it illegal for Americans to own gold. FDR was in on the thievery. As was another great Democrat Socialist hero, Woodrow Wilson who with democrat partisan support created the FED.

I believe it was England that first passed fractional lending laws in the 1600's. Are you implying there is a Zionist connection to that?

So what's your plan to take down the global banking conspiracy (and not just in America)?

"One frequently quoted passage from the work of John Maynard Keynes is that "the best way to destroy the capitalist system [is] to debauch the currency." The passage, attributed to Vladimir Illyich Lenin, appears in Keynes' book The Economic Consequences of the Peace."

Cosby is an (Lee Harvey) Oswaldian communist, which is why he takes offense to this topic. Old Blue Blood Bill hopes to secure himself an Aristocratic position in the new communist regime he hopes to bring about, in America.



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You know he sees a zionist plot there......... Those evil knights templar converted to mohammedism while crusading in the holy lands & then when returning to christiandom they converted to zionism before their persecution & the liberating of all their ill-gotten gain...:thumbsup:

That's true :thumbsup: I am hoping to be acting president of the west coast Che' bikini inspection brigade............ I think that would be fitting during my semi-retirement years..............

http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu330/cthulhu19887/political/communism/official_soviet_bikini_inspector.png


VIVA REVOLUTION!!!!!

DEATH TO AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!

HAIL THE CHIEF, GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!!!!

I am willing to fight for freedom to the last of my neighbors kids.........:o

[Bosco]

All right Bosco, I read it. Admittedly, I skim read some parts, a lot of it I am already familiar with.

Hitler did not want to go to war with Britain, this is well known. Of course once he had control of Europe, he would have stabbed them in the back like he did Russia.

FDR bailed out the FED by making it illegal for Americans to own gold. FDR was in on the thievery. As was another great Democrat Socialist hero, Woodrow Wilson who with democrat partisan support created the FED.

I believe it was England that first passed fractional lending laws in the 1600's. Are you implying there is a Zionist connection to that?

So what's your plan to take down the global banking conspiracy (and not just in America)?

"One frequently quoted passage from the work of John Maynard Keynes is that "the best way to destroy the capitalist system [is] to debauch the currency." The passage, attributed to Vladimir Illyich Lenin, appears in Keynes' book The Economic Consequences of the Peace."

Cosby is an (Lee Harvey) Oswaldian communist, which is why he takes offense to this topic. Old Blue Blood Bill hopes to secure himself an Aristocratic position in the new communist regime he hopes to bring about, in America.



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Thanks for replying Big Dog, I've been reading this and wondering exactly how to handle the reply, first lets just forget the Zionism aspect for a minute.

"One frequently quoted passage from the work of John Maynard Keynes is that "the best way to destroy the capitalist system [is] to debauch the currency." The passage, attributed to Vladimir Illyich Lenin, appears in Keynes' book The Economic Consequences of the Peace."

I am not familiar with this quote, but I guess this is a well known quote to economists?

The other question, which seems to be the most obvious is, since we our economy is an Keynesian economy and this quote is about destroying a capitalist system by inflating, or debauching the currency, why is the Federal Reserve a big mystery and why our system is failing today, when the very person who theorized this economic system said this is how you would destroy it?

This makes no sense to me.

I am going to play it safe and say the "hypothetical theory" by Douglas Reed of Zionism in his book, The Controversy of Zion starts back 2500 years ago which stats that Zionism was a racist sect of Judaism, and the Jews literally kicked the Zionists out of Judea because of their racist views. (short version) Now fast forward, when Rothschild gained power in the 1600's, the Zionist ideology was reunited with the Rothschild's because it was essentially about Zionists being a "Master race" since Rothschild literally bough Britain in a single move after the Napoleonic wars, this wasn't a tough sell, the idea has just been gaining speed since. The phrase "Now all Jews are Zionist's and not all Zionist's are Jews" has also been coined. Most recently though, Bibi has been recorded as saying that "My opinion of Christian Zionists? They're scum. But don't tell them that. We need all the useful idiots we can get right now ~ Benjamin Netanyahu".

Now, this is just a personally thing for me, I am convinced the Zionist Govt of Israel is controlling everything, without question.

The Recent IAEA report was a scam, the recent fake assassination attempt on the Saudi here in the US, was a scam, and that was easy to prove yet and UN just put down a majority vote for economic sanctions of Iran. Something isnt right here.

Do you have any idea what the "Protocols of the learned elder of Zion", even says?

[Bosco]

You know he sees a zionist plot there......... Those evil knights templar converted to mohammedism while crusading in the holy lands & then when returning to christiandom they converted to zionism before their persecution & the liberating of all their ill-gotten gain...

That's true :thumbsup: I am hoping to be acting president of the west coast Che' bikini inspection brigade............ I think that would be fitting during my semi-retirement years..............

http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu330/cthulhu19887/political/communism/official_soviet_bikini_inspector.png


VIVA REVOLUTION!!!!!

DEATH TO AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!

HAIL THE CHIEF, GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!!!!

I am willing to fight for freedom to the last of my neighbors kids.........:o

and here I thought you were a Liberal not a Neo Con. good cover, you had me fooled. :hi:

[Big Dog]

Bosco,

On Keynes' Lenin quote ... it was a warning of what not to do, just as he warned against price fixing.

"Keynes outlined the causes of high inflation and economic stagnation in post-WWI Europe in The Economic Consequences of the Peace.

"Lenin is said to have declared that the best way to destroy the Capitalist System was to debauch the currency. By a continuing process of inflation, governments can confiscate, secretly and unobserved, an important part of the wealth of their citizens. By this method they not only confiscate, but they confiscate arbitrarily; and, while the process impoverishes many, it actually enriches some... Lenin was certainly right. There is no subtler, no surer means of overturning the existing basis of society than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose."

Keynes explicitly pointed out the relationship between governments printing money and inflation.

"The inflationism of the currency systems of Europe has proceeded to extraordinary lengths. The various belligerent Governments, unable, or too timid or too short-sighted to secure from loans or taxes the resources they required, have printed notes for the balance."

Keynes also pointed out how government price controls discourage production.

"The presumption of a spurious value for the currency, by the force of law expressed in the regulation of prices, contains in itself, however, the seeds of final economic decay, and soon dries up the sources of ultimate supply. If a man is compelled to exchange the fruits of his labors for paper which, as experience soon teaches him, he cannot use to purchase what he requires at a price comparable to that which he has received for his own products, he will keep his produce for himself, dispose of it to his friends and neighbors as a favor, or relax his efforts in producing it. A system of compelling the exchange of commodities at what is not their real relative value not only relaxes production, but leads finally to the waste and inefficiency of barter."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economic_Consequences_of_the_Peace

"Lenin was certainly right," John Maynard Keynes continued in his 1919 classic, "The Economic Consequences of the Peace."

"There is no subtler, no surer means of overturning the existing basis of society than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose."

Keynes warned that terrible hatreds would be unleashed against "profiteers" who enriched themselves through inflation as the middle class was wiped out. And he pointed with alarm to Germany, where the mark had lost most of its international value. "

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=339129

Bosco, one more quote from Keynes, that IMO gives a little insight into his mindset, ... "The long run is a misleading guide to current affairs. In the long run we are all dead." ... I'm not an expert on Keynes, but he appears to be a bit of a cynical nihilistic pessimist who could point out fact, but lacked long term viable solutions.

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[Big Dog]

Re: Zionism ... yes I'm familiar with the protocols (though it's probably been two decades since I looked at them) and Netanyahu's quote, said while exiting Pollard's cell. In my opinion, they both lack validity.

Zionism has many definitions, but I think the most widely accepted is simply a goal to establish a Jewish State, which was accomplished with the creation of Israel in '48.

What do you believe is the goal of Zionism?

I'm not sure how you can reconcile the idea that the Jews owned England when there was such great control by the Anglican church and the Royal Family, et al..

Re: IAEA ... so how do you establish a non-corrupt version in a world where every nation wants to protect it's military secrets?

China and Russia voted against economic sanctions on Iran. It is, what it is.





P.S. ... in case you don't know already, at DCJ, green text indicates sarcasm.

BD
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[Bill Cosby]

and here I thought you were a Liberal not a Neo Con. good cover, you had me fooled. :hi:

I don't think you were fooled, just confused.................... A lot.....:lmao2:

[Bosco]

I don't think you were fooled, just confused.................... A lot.....:lmao2:

well, coming from someone who tries really hard to play the race card on a color blind forum whenever they can, you'll have to excuse me me if I don't give this reply much credence.

[Bill Cosby]

well, coming from someone who tries really hard to play the race card on a color blind forum whenever they can, you'll have to excuse me me if I don't give this reply much credence.


Race card???

[Big Dog]

Bosco, I did a little research into the Rothchilds and their link to banking. The earliest link I could find was 1760 when one of them was a bank employee. Fractional lending predates this by well over a 100 years. We can find the Stockholm bank getting a gov't charter, printing money and failing after two years way back in 1650's.

I love a good conspiracy theory as much as the next person, but they rarely pan out.

[Bill Cosby]

Bosco, I did a little research into the Rothchilds and their link to banking. The earliest link I could find was 1760 when one of them was a bank employee. Fractional lending predates this by well over a 100 years. We can find the Stockholm bank getting a gov't charter, printing money and failing after two years way back in 1650's.

I love a good conspiracy theory as much as the next person, but they rarely pan out.

:thumbsup: That's exactly why I waste little time bothering w/ them......

[Big Dog]

:thumbsup: That's exactly why I waste little time bothering w/ them......

And yet, here you are.

:dunno:


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[Bosco]

Re: Zionism ... yes I'm familiar with the protocols (though it's probably been two decades since I looked at them) and Netanyahu's quote, said while exiting Pollard's cell. In my opinion, they both lack validity.

Zionism has many definitions, but I think the most widely accepted is simply a goal to establish a Jewish State, which was accomplished with the creation of Israel in '48.

What do you believe is the goal of Zionism?

I'm not sure how you can reconcile the idea that the Jews owned England when there was such great control by the Anglican church and the Royal Family, et al..

Re: IAEA ... so how do you establish a non-corrupt version in a world where every nation wants to protect it's military secrets?

China and Russia voted against economic sanctions on Iran. It is, what it is.





P.S. ... in case you don't know already, at DCJ, green text indicates sarcasm.

BD
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This is probably the easiest source I can point to, it was written in 1998, and its a summary from a book by Douglas Reed, and well known, and respected writer in Europe, at least up until he decided to write this book.

World Revolution, Zionism and World Government

The World Revolution, which in this century (20th) has destroyed human civilization to an unheard of degree - so far - was only one of the two revolutionary movements, which spead like an epidemic pest over the world from the same week in October 1917. Both sprang from talmudic-lead Eastern Jews. The World Revolution has been the climax, so far, of judaic world conquest. The defeat of the Revolution is only apparent. Its destructive effect continues a bit more covertly without Soviet, but still with China as an example of this type of terror-lead slavesociety, and with judaic agents solidly placed on the most important posts in the world. All the “spiritual values” continue, as f.ex. also in the EU.

And its twin, Revolutionary Zionism, grows ever stronger towards the envisioned Eretz-Israel - Great Israel, which is to stretch from the Nile to the Eufrat in the whole “original area”, with all the”Jews” of the world brought together there, and with Jerusalem as the world capital and centre of the “World Peace of the World Government”.

Everything is supported by the Pentateuch of the Old Testament, supplemented by the Talmud, concerning the predestination of the “Chosen People” to exterminate or subjugate all other nations. Among the Zionist leaders this is taken one hundred percent seriously. Like a military operation the two groups work together with incredible synchronisation towards the all-domineering World Government. It will not be long before it becomes a reality. We see it happening every day: UN, NATO, EU, WTO, International Treaties and Conventions, International Courts with transnational jurisdiction and the hundreds- even thousands - of international mergers and take-overs in business.

Also the idea of world government has its background in The Old Testament and the Talmud. It is “The Chosen People”, which arranges matters according to the text, with the rest of the world as slaves. The greatest achievements of both movements took place in the periods of confusion close to the end of-, and right after the two worlds wars, which were started by the leaders of these two movements. Only the Revolution and Zionism came out as winners after the two global wars, with their inconcievable suffering.

http://knud.eriksen.adr.dk/summary.htm

[Bosco]

Bosco, I did a little research into the Rothchilds and their link to banking. The earliest link I could find was 1760 when one of them was a bank employee. Fractional lending predates this by well over a 100 years. We can find the Stockholm bank getting a gov't charter, printing money and failing after two years way back in 1650's.

I love a good conspiracy theory as much as the next person, but they rarely pan out.

The link between Zionism and the Rothschild central banking industry isnt so easy to find, I understand that. I can only say that if you poke around other books, and reviews from books you will see that most of these older text's have been edited out for any references for exact names.

The clearest example I can think of is Henry Ford's book "The International Jew: The Worlds foremost problem" in which someone had bought the book back in the 60's only to have to buy it again and found that all of the names Ford mentions in the book had been removed.

I can also show you that most, if not all media sources in both print and film are owned by Jew's.

There is history, then there is written history, and you know they are not the same thing.

My personal opinion is that this Zionism idea I posted above isnt shared by all Jews, not at all, but I think Jews are also not saying enough to speak out against this overt racist belief system.

[Big Dog]

This is probably the easiest source I can point to, it was written in 1998, and its a summary from a book by Douglas Reed, and well known, and respected writer in Europe, at least up until he decided to write this book.

World Revolution, Zionism and World Government

The World Revolution, which in this century (20th) has destroyed human civilization to an unheard of degree - so far - was only one of the two revolutionary movements, which spead like an epidemic pest over the world from the same week in October 1917.

http://knud.eriksen.adr.dk/summary.htm

Well, I'm going to make it difficult for you. I prefer original sources. In other words, the original documents from which this author draws his opinions.

However I will ask, if the Zionists were so powerful, why did they permit the slaughter of 6 million Jews, many of which could certainly have been "chosen people".


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[Big Dog]

The link between Zionism and the Rothschild central banking industry isnt so easy to find, I understand that. I can only say that if you poke around other books, and reviews from books you will see that most of these older text's have been edited out for any references for exact names.

The clearest example I can think of is Henry Ford's book "The International Jew: The Worlds foremost problem" in which someone had bought the book back in the 60's only to have to buy it again and found that all of the names Ford mentions in the book had been removed.

I can also show you that most, if not all media sources in both print and film are owned by Jew's.

There is history, then there is written history, and you know they are not the same thing.

My personal opinion is that this Zionism idea I posted above isnt shared by all Jews, not at all, but I think Jews are also not saying enough to speak out against this overt racist belief system.

I have tried to debate this topic with believers before, and they too claimed that original citations, such as what was published as late as the 70's in the military times, had disappeared or was no longer available. This is not a credible argument.

I understand that you make some racial distinction between Zionist and Jews. I'm not sure why because all Jews trace their racial/religious lineage as one in the same.

When I examine a claim like your's, I need to see original documents and data so I can draw my own conclusion. I'm not interested in the opinions of others, merely the raw data, and original source documents ... as you should be too. Have you read the Pentateuch? ... and which version ... Septuagint, Samaritan, Masoretic ... are you referencing?

And you do realize that even the Zionist State doesn't use things like the stoning laws that are outlined in the Old Testament, or the many punishments spelled out in Leviticus. So how strictly they follow the OT, is immediately put into question.


I will ask if certain people were/are Jews .... Randolph Hearst, Rupert Murdoch, Jeffrery Immelt? ... and what newspaper and magazine owner's are/aren't Jews, i.e. Nytimes, Washington Post, USAtoday, etc.?


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[Bosco]

Well, I'm going to make it difficult for you. I prefer original sources. In other words, the original documents from which this author draws his opinions.

However I will ask, if the Zionists were so powerful, why did they permit the slaughter of 6 million Jews, many of which could certainly have been "chosen people".


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That's a legitimate question, and as I understand the Holocaust wasnt fully realized until towards the end of the war in which the allied powers were already involved in stopping Hitler. I dont think the Jews that financed WWII understood what Hitler's "final solution" was to the Jews. That's just my opinion.

Have you read that summary I linked to, if you have there is also the online copy of that book which is the same book I read. I should also let you know that I am not trying to recruit you or even trying to get you to share my opinion, I am just qualifying my opinion to some extent and why I have it. The "science" may never be had because of the access to data or the lack of integrity of the data that can be found as I mentioned, so I have to use actual accounts on the ground as it happens. What was said in the writing's and what is happening in the world around us.

I should also tell you, I am a "survivalist" so I also have my ear the the ground for other things besides political anomalies world wide. Which I have never even posted here.

Give you an example, (tin foil hat time) Eugenics through Monsanto GMO foods, Cloud Seeding or Weather modification's or Chemtrails (http://www.activistpost.com/2011/11/suffolk-co-ny-to-hear-proposal-to-ban.html) whichever you choose to call it, Fukushima Radiation which has gone unchecked for most of the West Coast, already affecting birth rates, and birth defects.

We are never going to agree with most of these things I talk about because you are going to want empirical evidence, and that's just impossible some of this is happening now, and I don't care to change laws or even make a difference, if nothing else I can see people are fucking stupid, and I only care about saving my ass, and my family. Selfish as that may seem, there just isnt time to gather the needed data. Again I am not trying to change anything.

:hero:

[Bill Cosby]

That's a legitimate question, and as I understand the Holocaust wasnt fully realized until towards the end of the war in which the allied powers were already involved in stopping Hitler. I dont think the Jews that financed WWII understood what Hitler's "final solution" was to the Jews. That's just my opinion.

Have you read that summary I linked to, if you have there is also the online copy of that book which is the same book I read. I should also let you know that I am not trying to recruit you or even trying to get you to share my opinion, I am just qualifying my opinion to some extent and why I have it. The "science" may never be had because of the access to data or the lack of integrity of the data that can be found as I mentioned, so I have to use actual accounts on the ground as it happens. What was said in the writing's and what is happening in the world around us.

I should also tell you, I am a "survivalist" so I also have my ear the the ground for other things besides political anomalies world wide. Which I have never even posted here.

Give you an example, (tin foil hat time) Eugenics through Monsanto GMO foods, Cloud Seeding or Weather modification's or Chemtrails whichever you choose to call it, Fukushima Radiation which has gone unchecked for most of the West Coast, already affecting birth rates, and birth defects.

We are never going to agree with most of these things I talk about because you are going to want empirical evidence, and that's just impossible some of this is happening now, and I don't care to change laws or even make a difference, if nothing else I can see people are fucking stupid, and I only care about saving my ass, and my family. Selfish as that may seem, there just isnt time to gather the needed data. Again I am not trying to change anything.

:hero:

They were smart enough to take over the banking world & finance the war, but to stupid to read mien kempf??? :lmao2:

[Bosco]

I have tried to debate this topic with believers before, and they too claimed that original citations, such as what was published as late as the 70's in the military times, had disappeared or was no longer available. This is not a credible argument.

I understand that you make some racial distinction between Zionist and Jews. I'm not sure why because all Jews trace their racial/religious lineage as one in the same.

When I examine a claim like your's, I need to see original documents and data so I can draw my own conclusion. I'm not interested in the opinions of others, merely the raw data, and original source documents ... as you should be too. Have you read the Pentateuch? ... and which version ... Septuagint, Samaritan, Masoretic ... are you referencing?

And you do realize that even the Zionist State doesn't use things like the stoning laws that are outlined in the Old Testament, or the many punishments spelled out in Leviticus. So how strictly they follow the OT, is immediately put into question.


I will ask if certain people were/are Jews .... Randolph Hearst, Rupert Murdoch, Jeffrery Immelt? ... and what newspaper and magazine owner's are/aren't Jews, i.e. Nytimes, Washington Post, USAtoday, etc.?


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That's what the book "The controversy of Zion" makes, Zionists were actually kicked out of Judea because it was a very racist view and not what Judaism was about.

Now the book I read, most, if not all the sources are of Jewish origin, this isnt a Gentile writing a book about Jew's just after WWII.

Hearst and Immelt are not Jews as I understand it. Immelt was doing business with Iran up until 2005, which sadly he stopped.

This article talks about how Jewish the media is, while this is about Hollywood look at that it cites as its references, not just Hollywood. All media. Again written by a Jew boasting about the power of the Jewish Media.

News Corp. FOX News President Peter Chernin (Jewish), Paramount Pictures Chairman Brad Grey (Jewish), Walt Disney Co. Chief Executive Robert Iger (Jewish), Sony Pictures Chairman Michael Lynton (surprise, Dutch Jew), Warner Bros. Chairman Barry Meyer (Jewish), CBS Corp. Chief Executive Leslie Moonves (so Jewish his great uncle was the first prime minister of Israel),MGM Chairman - CNN Harry Sloan (Jewish) and NBC Universal, MSNBC Chief Executive Jeff Zucker (mega-Jewish).

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-stein19-2008dec19,0,4676183.column

[Bosco]

They were smart enough to take over the banking world & finance the war, but to stupid to read mien kempf??? :lmao2:

Hitler never talked about extermination of Jews in Mein Kampf. He said they were subhuman and they destroyed civilizations but never actually said, he was going to kill them.

This would probably be the section in which it would be found in MK, but its not there.

http://www.crusader.net/texts/mk/mkv1ch11.html

I should make it real clear, this is just a philosophical debate I'm having here, not like I plan my day around this shit....lol - I am no Nazi lover, or support what the Nazi's did or anything like that. I lost an Uncle at Normandy fuckers!!!

[Bosco]

Well, I'm going to make it difficult for you. I prefer original sources. In other words, the original documents from which this author draws his opinions.

However I will ask, if the Zionists were so powerful, why did they permit the slaughter of 6 million Jews, many of which could certainly have been "chosen people".


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Then you've read the Protocol's book?

From today.
Sunday, November 27th, 2011

Wars: America and Its Delusions

It is that a criminal state is being created, part Mexico, part California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas with branches across America. This is the real “Al Qaeda,” and a clear and present danger to the security of the United States.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/war3-320x169.jpg

The war in Afghanistan is hopelessly lost. There was never a reason to go in anyway.

A mythology was written by the Project for a New American Century (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century), one of an army of “think tanks” and organizations, like the Federalist Society, the National Rifle Association, the US Chamber of Commerce, the ADL and the United Nations.

How could a sporting organization and a lawyer’s club be part of a worldwide conspiracy? You think it stops there? They have penetrated your schools, your churches, political indoctrination is part of every American’s life from the crib onward.

They don’t just control what you think, they control what you feel, and even how you feel. It began as envy, class envy, race hate but the real tool is fear, something they have learned to wield like a scalpel.

These are just a few of the names chosen at random, organizations ostensibly intended for some “cover” activity but dedicated and answerable to one purpose, debt slavery, eternal war and the creation of a new, very bleak world:

3 billion or fewer inhabitants
total control of all governments
total control over all media, news and history
continual staged low and medium intensity conflicts, in an endless cascade
creation of an fictional “enemy” bloc to replace the failed Cold War and the “not credible” War on Terror
nation after nation with vast prison complexes and millions of heroin addicts…like in the United States
human beings degenerated back to the “hunter/gatherer stage, picking through dumps for food, or working as “police” or “bailiffs” in order to survive


http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/11/27/wars-america-and-its-delusions/

Opinion? sure, but supported with alot of facts. Data you are looking for?, probably not, but you hopefully see why I don't really care to debate this from a "The US was" as in past tense. This is all happening now.

Zionists. Look at the roster of PNAC. Chairman William Kristol who's Dad Irving Kristol was the co-creator of the neoconservatives.
http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm

[Bosco]

You can watch the video or trust the title, the choice is yours.

Former 4-star U.S General admits to America Foreign Policy Coup

MMAONc7GeIc

I know, He's a liberal, and I hear he support's Obama's cluster fuck these days.

[Big Dog]

Yes, I agree the empirical evidence is lacking which is why I don't buy it. I"ve studied lots of conspiracy theories, and like most, this Zionist one has very little traction.

I'd suggest you spend some time studying different military intelligence techniques like brainwashing, disinformation, info wars and counter intelligence.

It's great to be a survivalist. NBC's are your most likely threat. :thumbsup:

And with your current medical issues, it sounds like your well-being is tied to the survival of civilization and industry.


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[Bill Cosby]

Yes, I agree the empirical evidence is lacking which is why I don't buy it. I"ve studied lots of conspiracy theories, and like most, this Zionist one has very little traction.

I'd suggest you spend some time studying different military intelligence techniques like brainwashing, disinformation, info wars and counter intelligence.

It's great to be a survivalist. NBC's are your most likely threat. :thumbsup:

And with your current medical issues, it sounds like your well-being is tied to the survival of civilization and industry.


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He says he is going to Alaska to be a survivalist, living off the land etc....:lmao2:

I think out there wolves & Grizzly become threats.......... Blending into the environment also means becoming part of the food chain.........

You can walk around in the dark lugging an AK47 but it gets heavy after a while..............

Personally I would like to spend my first nuclear winter in Brazil or Panama... :dunno:

[Bosco]

Yes, I agree the empirical evidence is lacking which is why I don't buy it. I"ve studied lots of conspiracy theories, and like most, this Zionist one has very little traction.

I'd suggest you spend some time studying different military intelligence techniques like brainwashing, disinformation, info wars and counter intelligence.

It's great to be a survivalist. NBC's are your most likely threat. :thumbsup:

And with your current medical issues, it sounds like your well-being is tied to the survival of civilization and industry.


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Your right about the last, which is why I spend so much time online.

I have read alot of books about propaganda, psychology and history. With a few years of education in psychology.

[Bosco]

He says he is going to Alaska to be a survivalist, living off the land etc....:lmao2:

I think out there wolves & Grizzly become threats.......... Blending into the environment also means becoming part of the food chain.........

You can walk around in the dark lugging an AK47 but it gets heavy after a while..............

Personally I would like to spend my first nuclear winter in Brazil or Panama... :dunno:

I have friends in Alaska, I was planning on going there regardless. Can't say that I'm going to stay but less populated ares do seem to be a natural in the event of war or other.

[Bill Cosby]

I have friends in Alaska, I was planning on going there regardless. Can't say that I'm going to stay but less populated ares do seem to be a natural in the event of war or other.

Good luck...........:thumbsup:

[Bosco]

I've been planning it now for awhile. It just happens to coincide with the world coming to an end.....lol

[Bill Cosby]

I've been planning it now for awhile. It just happens to coincide with the world coming to an end.....lol

HHmmmmm........... I hope part of "your plan" includes taking a nice winter vacation there first........... Off course off "the grid" so you can get a feel for it....

You chop much wood???? John Galt cuts lots of it....... I don't think he is using an axe though......... You might wanna talk to him about it...........

My guess is you will need a lot more wood than you think......... Especially if you are living in a rustic setting......... Good hardwood takes a couple years to cure, life can be a real bitch @ 60 below waiting............:lmao2:

[Bosco]

HHmmmmm........... I hope part of "your plan" includes taking a nice winter vacation there first........... Off course off "the grid" so you can get a feel for it....

You chop much wood???? John Galt cuts lots of it....... I don't think he is using an axe though......... You might wanna talk to him about it...........

My guess is you will need a lot more wood than you think......... Especially if you are living in a rustic setting......... Good hardwood takes a couple years to cure, life can be a real bitch @ 60 below waiting............:lmao2:

This is all pretty funny to you isnt it?

I have friends that live there now, I am not going to go there and homestead a place from nothing. LOL

You do this alot, mix up different parts of what I say and just run with shit. You're crazy man!! :thumbsup:

[Big Dog]

Your right about the last, which is why I spend so much time online.

I have read alot of books about propaganda, psychology and history. With a few years of education in psychology.

I hope it heals soon.

Ok, if you got the educational background in propaganda and disinformation techniques, that's great. So who is promulgating the Zionist rule the world conspiracy?


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[Bosco]

I hope it heals soon.

Ok, if you got the educational background in propaganda and disinformation techniques, that's great. So who is promulgating the Zionist rule the world conspiracy?


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Promoting Zionism, or just not allowing opposition to Zionism?

You find what you look for, and I dont have the data you are looking for. I'm not selling anything here, or trying to convince you of anything. This is just my opinion.

I think this has ran it's course. I am done here.

[Big Dog]

Promoting Zionism, or just not allowing opposition to Zionism?

You find what you look for, and I dont have the data you are looking for. I'm not selling anything here, or trying to convince you of anything. This is just my opinion.

I think this has ran it's course. I am done here.

Who is Promulgating the Zioinst conspiracy theory. ... The Jewish people seem to have lots of enemies that want to single them out for demonization. There are certainly lots of other powerful groups on the planet, much large than the Jews. I'm not saying that others aren't demonized too.

Hey, i'm just wondering why you are so convinced, ... unless you were already predisposed to wanting to be convinced? Believing in hearsay doesn't seem to be your style.


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[Bosco]

Who is Promulgating the Zioinst conspiracy theory. ... The Jewish people seem to have lots of enemies that want to single them out for demonization. There are certainly lots of other powerful groups on the planet, much large than the Jews. I'm not saying that others aren't demonized too.

Hey, i'm just wondering why you are so convinced, ... unless you were already predisposed to wanting to be convinced? Believing in hearsay doesn't seem to be your style.


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Do you follow Israeli news at all?

Of course I was no predisposed to my conclusion, again it was a numbers of things from the altering of information through books, historical references, actual events that have happened, predictions that appear to have come to pass, some of it I found quite by accident too.

promulgating - promote, whatever, same shit. I dont have the specific answers you are looking for, I already said that. It's a combination of things, from editing wiki pages, to the biased media, to AIPAC who controls our foreign policy, to Christian Zionists who believe its the right thing to do because of biblical text, I say its all bullshit.

Sorry BD, not going to give you the direct answer you are looking for, that's the best its going to get. That Douglas Reed book was pretty good though, I will say that much.

I do read stories like this, and chase supporting facts that make up the article. Not sure if that is going to help you any more but.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/11/28/what-we-have-here-is-a-%E2%80%9Cflagrantly-undemocratic-situation%E2%80%9D/

[Bill Cosby]

You can watch the video or trust the title, the choice is yours.

Former 4-star U.S General admits to America Foreign Policy Coup

MMAONc7GeIc

I know, He's a liberal, and I hear he support's Obama's cluster fuck these days.

Great clip, thnx...........:thumbsup:

[Bill Cosby]

This is all pretty funny to you isnt it?

I have friends that live there now, I am not going to go there and homestead a place from nothing. LOL

You do this alot, mix up different parts of what I say and just run with shit. You're crazy man!! :thumbsup:


I think it is a crazy idea, sorry, but from what I can tell you are likely going to end up getting yourself killed out there.............. Anyway, that's on you...

Maybe your friends will save you... :dunno:

[Bosco]

I think it is a crazy idea, sorry, but from what I can tell you are likely going to end up getting yourself killed out there.............. Anyway, that's on you...

Maybe your friends will save you... :dunno:

Well, this might be a surprise from a misconception from something I might have said previous but they live in a normal house. Its not to way out there, although it is remote comparatively so to the 48 as we would think about it.

:o

[crowonapost]

Well, this might be a surprise from a misconception from something I might have said previous but they live in a normal house. Its not to way out there, although it is remote comparatively so to the 48 as we would think about it.

:o


Oh...Durpistan? The Suburbia....?

[crowonapost]

Promoting Zionism, or just not allowing opposition to Zionism?

You find what you look for, and I dont have the data you are looking for. I'm not selling anything here, or trying to convince you of anything. This is just my opinion.

I think this has ran it's course. I am done here.

This is insightful.

So you have no clue about any of your shit other than saying zionsim...

noted.

You are a fucking idiot.

[Big Dog]

Do you follow Israeli news at all?

Of course I was no predisposed to my conclusion, again it was a numbers of things from the altering of information through books, historical references, actual events that have happened, predictions that appear to have come to pass, some of it I found quite by accident too.

promulgating - promote, whatever, same shit. I dont have the specific answers you are looking for, I already said that. It's a combination of things, from editing wiki pages, to the biased media, to AIPAC who controls our foreign policy, to Christian Zionists who believe its the right thing to do because of biblical text, I say its all bullshit.

Sorry BD, not going to give you the direct answer you are looking for, that's the best its going to get. That Douglas Reed book was pretty good though, I will say that much.

I do read stories like this, and chase supporting facts that make up the article. Not sure if that is going to help you any more but.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/11/28/what-we-have-here-is-a-%E2%80%9Cflagrantly-undemocratic-situation%E2%80%9D/

Yes, I understand the Jews are not politically homogenous. I"m sure you do know they have free elections to choose their leaders. You get my point.

AIPAC does not control our foreign policy. Do you have empirical evidence to prove otherwise? ... no.

Near the end of WW2, we lost a lot of men taking the beaches at Normandy to establish a beachhead. This lesson was not lost on our leaders. The ME was a mess after WWII where most chose to side with Hitler. Israel is, for all intents and purposes, a permanent U.S. beachhead in the ME.

We tried the isolationist route in the first half of the 20th century. Its purpose and intent was a failure as we were still drawn into 2 World Wars.

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[Bosco]

This is insightful.

So you have no clue about any of your shit other than saying zionsim...

noted.

You are a fucking idiot.

Go fuck your mother punk. anything else?

[Bosco]

Yes, I understand the Jews are not politically homogenous. I"m sure you do know they have free elections to choose their leaders. You get my point.

AIPAC does not control our foreign policy. Do you have empirical evidence to prove otherwise? ... no.

Near the end of WW2, we lost a lot of men taking the beaches at Normandy to establish a beachhead. This lesson was not lost on our leaders. The ME was a mess after WWII where most chose to side with Hitler. Israel is, for all intents and purposes, a permanent U.S. beachhead in the ME.

We tried the isolationist route in the first half of the 20th century. Its purpose and intent was a failure as we were still drawn into 2 World Wars.

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Isolationists?

Israel is the one who starts all the shit in the ME, we are going to have to agree to disagree. I can find article after article about Israeli apartheid, most recently coming out of the UN.

Also I didnt say this is a Jewish conspiracy I specifically said Zionist's

Everyone knows if you dont get the Zionists vote in DC you will not be elected, what does that mean.

Like I said some of this is common sense. Why I'm also said I'm done here, again. lol

[Big Dog]

Isolationists?

Israel is the one who starts all the shit in the ME, we are going to have to agree to disagree. I can find article after article about Israeli apartheid, most recently coming out of the UN.

Also I didnt say this is a Jewish conspiracy I specifically said Zionist's

Everyone knows if you dont get the Zionists vote in DC you will not be elected, what does that mean.

Like I said some of this is common sense. Why I'm also said I'm done here, again. lol

Isolationists? ... yes, first half of the 20th century ... drawn into 2 world wars.

The U.N. approved Israel's creation and within 24 hours the surrounding Arab nations attacked it, and they have been attacking it ever since.

I understand that Zionist is a cute PC word for greedy Jew. And according to you, Zions are a small percentage so who cares how they vote.
And according to you, Zions rule Israel yet they were elected by a majority of the Jews. None of what you say about Zionists makes any sense.


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[Bill Cosby]

Well, this might be a surprise from a misconception from something I might have said previous but they live in a normal house. Its not to way out there, although it is remote comparatively so to the 48 as we would think about it.

:o

??? From what I recall when you first got here you were talkin about going up there & "livin off the grid"...........

Personally I don't know anyone "livin off the grid" except the homeless guys livin under the overpass a few miles away............

You have also said you are a survivalist I believe..........???

It is no joke, fuckin around there will get you killed, eaten or frozen, real quick..

You should talk w/ AK, he lived there for several years..:thumbsup:

[Bill Cosby]

Go............................?

Dude, you need to chill w/ the mother/family stuff.......

We only have a few rules, pls read them..........:thumbsup:

[Bill Cosby]

Everyone knows if you dont get the Zionists vote in DC you will not be elected, what does that mean.



What does that mean.................???

Who was the last one to "not be elected" cause he/she didn't get the zionist vote????

[Big Dog]

Dude, you need to chill w/ the mother/family stuff.......

We only have a few rules, pls read them..........:thumbsup:

WTF, Bill? ... I've seen you let the board socialists get away with that stuff.


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[Bill Cosby]

WTF, Bill? ... I've seen you let the board socialists get away with that stuff.


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I can't do it, neither can you.............

No family stuff-simple as that.........:thumbsup:

[Bosco]

What does that mean.................???

Who was the last one to "not be elected" cause he/she didn't get the zionist vote????

One sec, my magic eight ball keep saying "ask again", - Bill I appreciate discussing this with you but I'm done here. AIPAC, and the influence of AIPAC in media and foreign policvy is no secret to anyone who looks.

Actually was a good book written about it also. If you are really interested.

The Israel Lobby," by John J. Mearsheimer of the University of Chicago and Stephen M. Walt of Harvard's John F. Kennedy School of Government, was one of the most controversial articles in recent memory. Originally published in the London Review of Books in March 2006, it provoked both howls of outrage and cheers of gratitude for challenging what had been a taboo issue in America: the impact of the Israel lobby on U.S. foreign policy.

Now in a work of major importance, Mearsheimer and Walt deepen and expand their argument and confront recent developments in Lebanon and Iran. They describe the remarkable level of material and diplomatic support that the United States provides to Israel and argues that this support cannot be fully explained on either strategic or moral grounds. This exceptional relationship is due largely to the political influence of a loose coalition of individuals and organizations that actively work to shape U.S. foreign policy in a pro-Israel direction. Mearsheimer and Walt provocatively contend that the lobby has a far-reaching impact on America's posture throughout the Middle East--in Iraq, Iran, Lebanon, and toward the Israeli-Palestinian conflict--and the policies it has encouraged are in neither America's national interest nor Israel's long-term interest. The lobby's influence also affects America's relationship with important allies and increases dangers that all states face from global jihadist terror.

Writing in The New York Review of Books, Michael Massing declared, "Not since Foreign Affairs magazine published Samuel Huntington's 'The Clash of Civilizations?' in 1993 has an academic essay detonated with such force." The publication of The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy is certain to widen the debate and to be one of the most talked-about books of the year.

http://www.amazon.com/Israel-Lobby-U-S-Foreign-Policy/dp/0374531501/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1322614810&sr=8-1

No family stuff, got it.

[Bill Cosby]

So does that mean you are leaving back to stormfront??? or that you are just done trying to convince the good folks here that zionist are out to get us??

[Bosco]

So does that mean you are leaving back to stormfront??? or that you are just done trying to convince the good folks here that zionist are out to get us??

Back to SF, what makes you think I ever left?

:lmao2:

SF is a White Nationalist "thing" and they have strong roots in Christianity (according to them) which doesn't work for me.

whatever dude, I found this while reading neoconservatism, but strangely you're probably not want something else which is why I'm not going to chase this ghost. I will never be able to give you common sense, that's impossible.

This is an opinion by Michael Lind.

"Most neoconservative defense intellectuals have their roots on the left, not the right. They are products of the influential Jewish-American sector of the Trotskyist movement of the 1930s and 1940s, which morphed into anti-communist liberalism between the 1950s and 1970s and finally into a kind of militaristic and imperial right with no precedents in American culture or political history. Their admiration for the Israeli Likud party's tactics, including preventive warfare such as Israel's 1981 raid on Iraq's Osirak nuclear reactor, is mixed with odd bursts of ideological enthusiasm for "democracy." They call their revolutionary ideology "Wilsonianism" (after President Woodrow Wilson), but it is really Trotsky's theory of the permanent revolution mingled with the far-right Likud strain of Zionism. Genuine American Wilsonians believe in self-determination for people such as the Palestinians."
"The major link between the conservative think tanks and the Israel lobby is the Washington-based and Likud-supporting Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (Jinsa), which co-opts many non-Jewish defense experts by sending them on trips to Israel."[28]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatives

[Bill Cosby]

:hi: :hi: :hi: Well you have been nicer than most of the ppl that come from there, & about as successful......... :thumbsup:

While the wacKo libertarian , republicans, democrats, anarchists, socialist & just nuts enjoy bantering among themselves there is little tolerance for what you are selling...............


To be honest, you aint very good @ it............

IMHO other than your zionist obsession, you are alright & add a nice angle to the mix here, you will be missed.............

Que sera sera............

[Bosco]

: Well you have been nicer than most of the ppl that come from there, & about as successful......... :thumbsup:

While the wacKo libertarian , republicans, democrats, anarchists, socialist & just nuts enjoy bantering among themselves there is little tolerance for what you are selling...............


To be honest, you aint very good @ it............

IMHO other than your zionist obsession, you are alright & add a nice angle to the mix here, you will be missed.............

Que sera sera............

:banghead:

:lmao2:

I'm not very good at it because I am not selling anything, BD asked me about the Zionism angle and I tried to explain but there is no empirical evidence he is looking for, and with everything that is taking place, I honestly don't care, Its just my opinion.

Zionist obsession? OK, now you're just being an fool, I am not obsessed with Zionist's - It is what it is.

That is two points I said specifically you can said otherwise, Selling something, and that I give a shit about what you think about Zionism. Wrong, still.

And I am not going anywhere, what gave you that idea?

:confused:

[Bill Cosby]

:banghead:

:lmao2:

I'm not very good at it because I am not selling anything, BD asked me about the Zionism angle and I tried to explain but there is no empirical evidence he is looking for, and with everything that is taking place, I honestly don't care, Its just my opinion.

Zionist obsession? OK, now you're just being an fool, I am not obsessed with Zionist's - It is what it is.

That is two points I said specifically you can said otherwise, Selling something, and that I give a shit about what you think about Zionism. Wrong, still.

And I am not going anywhere, what gave you that idea?

:confused:

This--->>Bill I appreciate discussing this with you but I'm done here

ANyway, good, I am glad you are not leaving & that you are not obsessed about zionism or any of that.....

Have a fun night..........:thumbsup:

[Bosco]

This--->>

ANyway, good, I am glad you are not leaving & that you are not obsessed about zionism or any of that.....

Have a fun night..........:thumbsup:

done with this thread, and current theme.

Cheers Bill! :thumbsup:

[Bosco]

I have checked out Chomksy, and I honestly can't find any biased uneducated opinion's by the man, I know he is hated for his own political views, which I also disagree with but he still a MIT professor and, I think an honest personality.

What is your take on Chomsky besides "You don't like him?" WHY!

A MUST SEE Interview of Noam Chomsky

9CKpCGjD8wg

oB1q2tdb-Gw

A passionate speech by George Galloway

mQlflGni7XI

[Bill Cosby]

I have checked out Chomksy, and I honestly can't find any biased uneducated opinion's by the man, I know he is hated for his own political views, which I also disagree with but he still a MIT professor and, I think an honest personality.

What is your take on Chomsky besides "You don't like him?" WHY!

A MUST SEE Interview of Noam Chomsky

9CKpCGjD8wg

oB1q2tdb-Gw

A passionate speech by George Galloway

mQlflGni7XI

It might make a good thread topic... :dunno:

I think the gop don't like him cause he exposes their lies & hypocrisy, & that is a lot different than the reasons :rolleyes: the dems hate him...:lmao2:

[Bosco]

If this helps, it has a pretty good documented "History" of Zionism.

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/

[Bosco]

The Rothschild family is slowly but surely having their Central banks established in every country of this world, giving them incredible amount of wealth and power.

In the year of 2000 there were seven countries without a Rothschild owned Central Bank:

Afghanistan
Iraq
Sudan
Libya
Cuba
North Korea
Iran

It is not a coincidence that these country, which are listed above were and are still being under attack by the western media, since one of the main reasons these countries have been under attack in the first place is because they do not have a Rothschild owned Central Bank yet. The first step in having a Central Bank establish in a country is to get them to accept an outrageous loans, which puts the country in debt of the Central Bank and under the control of the Rothschilds. If the country does not accept the loan, the leader of this particular country will be assassinated and a Rothschild aligned leader will be put into the position, and if the assassination does not work, the country will be invaded and have a Central Bank established with force all under the name of terrorism.

Rothschild owned Central Bank:

Central banks are illegally created private banks that are owned by the Rothschild banking family. The family has been around for more than 230 years and has slithered its way into each country on this planet, threatened every world leader and their governments and cabinets with physical and economic death and destruction, and then emplaced their own people in these central banks to control and manage each country’s pocketbook. Worse, the Rothschilds also control the machinations of each government at the macro level, not concerning themselves with the daily vicissitudes of our individual personal lives. Except when we get too far out of line.

The only countries left in 2003 without a Central Bank owned by the Rothschild Family were:

Sudan
Libya
Cuba
North Korea
Iran

The only countries left in 2011 without a Central Bank owned by the Rothschild Family are:

Cuba
North Korea
Iran

After the instigated protests and riots in the Arab countries the Rothschild finally paved their way into establishing Central Banks, and getting rid of many leaders, which put them into more power.


I FCUKING KNEW IT!

Here is comes, Hegemony or survival. Let the propagandist media continue.

DOCUMENTARY LINKS IRAN, CUBA, VENEZUELA IN U.S. ATTACKS

Iran's Revolutionary Guards Prepare for War (http://www.newsmax.com/InsiderReport/Iran-Revolutionary-Guards-Prepare/2011/12/11/id/420585)

[Bill Cosby]

Owned............. What does that mean exactly???

[Bosco]

Owned............. What does that mean exactly???

These countries were last on the list for Rothschild banking, now the Chinese have said something the war machine is moving over the Cuba, Venezuela, and I doubt Iran but we shall see. I know the article says Iran but I think that's rhetoric to bring these other countries into the conversation.

I don't think North Korea is going to get any attention unless we have a world war, but time will tell.

[Bill Cosby]

These countries were last on the list for Rothschild banking, now the Chinese have said something the war machine is moving over the Cuba, Venezuela, and I doubt Iran but we shall see. I know the article says Iran but I think that's rhetoric to bring these other countries into the conversation.

I don't think North Korea is going to get any attention unless we have a world war, but time will tell.
??? I was wondering what "owned" means exactly???

[Bosco]

??? I was wondering what "owned" means exactly???

I just looked at the post again, I dont see an "owned" am I missing something?

it says

I FCUKING KNEW IT!!

:confused: