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radioguy
11-19-2007, 05:04 PM
U.S. Says Attacks in Iraq Fell to Feb. 2006 Level
By CARA BUCKLEY and MICHAEL R. GORDON
NY Times
November 19, 2007


BAGHDAD, Nov. 18 — The American military said Sunday that the weekly number of attacks in Iraq had fallen to the lowest level since just before the February 2006 bombing of the Shiite shrine in Samarra, an event commonly used as a benchmark for the country’s worst spasm of bloodletting after the American invasion nearly five years ago.

Data released at a news conference in Baghdad showed that attacks had declined to the lowest level since January 2006. It is the third week in a row that attacks have been at this reduced level.

The statistics on attack trends have long been a standard measure that the American military has used to assess violence in Iraq. Because the data have been gathered for years and are deemed generally reliable they allow analysts to identify trends.

Military officials said the attacks were directed against American and Iraqi forces, as well as civilians. But since the source for the data is American military reports, and not the Iraqi government, the figures do not provide an exhaustive measure of sectarian violence.

Nonetheless, the figures added to a body of evidence, compiled by American and Iraqi officials, indicating that the violence had diminished significantly since the United States reinforced troop levels in Iraq and adopted a new counterinsurgency strategy.

The data released Sunday cover attacks using car bombs, roadside bombs, mines, mortars, rockets, surface-to-air missiles and small arms. According to the statistics, roughly 575 attacks occurred last week.

That is substantially fewer than the more than 700 attacks that were recorded the week that Sunni militants set off a wave of sectarian violence in Iraq by blowing up a Shiite shrine in Samarra in February 2006. And it represents a huge drop since June when attacks soared to nearly 1,600 one week.

American officials said other measures indicated that civilian deaths had dropped. Rear Adm. Gregory Smith, a spokesman for the command, said civilian deaths had dropped by 60 percent since June.

Military analysts said a number of factors explained the drop. They say, for example, that Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia, a predominantly Iraqi insurgent group with foreign leadership, has been greatly weakened by American military attacks.

Thousands of new Sunni volunteers have made common cause with the Americans. About 72,000 such civilians have joined the effort, American officials said, and 45,000 each receive a $300 a month stipend from the Americans to help with the effort.

Moktada al-Sadr, the anti-American cleric, has ordered his militiamen to stand down. American military officials also say that Iran appears to be abiding by a commitment to reduce the flow of roadside bombs and other weapons into Iraq. Beyond that, many Iraqis appear to be exhausted by the sectarian violence and eager for a modicum of stability.

To be sure, the level of violence in Iraq is still high. Even as military officials announced the figures, Iraq had one of its deadliest days in weeks, with at least 22 people killed. Among the killed were nine civilians in Karada, a mixed neighborhood in central Baghdad, when a car bomber rammed a convoy carrying Iraq’s deputy finance minister. The official was not hurt, but a guard was among the wounded.

Also on Sunday, three children were killed and seven were wounded in Baquba, to the north, in an explosion in a small garden where American soldiers were handing out candy, ballpoint pens and soccer balls. Three American soldiers were also killed. Their names were not released.

Some experts said the data indicated a downward trend in violent attacks, albeit from relatively high levels — 2006 was one of the most violent years in the war.

The most pressing issue, they said, was how to keep them down and reduce violence further given the failure of Iraqi leaders to achieve reconciliation.

“These trends are stunning in military terms and beyond the predictions of most proponents of the surge last winter,” said Michael O’Hanlon, a military analyst at the Brookings Institution, referring to President Bush’s troop reinforcement plan. “Nobody knows if the trends are durable in the absence of national reconciliation and in the face of major U.S. troop drawdowns in 2008."

Military officials stressed that attack levels might fluctuate in the future and that it was too soon to say that the United States had turned the corner in Iraq. Past periods of relative calm in Iraq have also been shattered by violence. And American officials have complained that the Iraqi government is not taking the opportunity in the current lull to attempt serious political progress.

“While violence is turning in the right direction, a tough fight remains ahead and progress will be uneven,” Admiral Smith said. “Violence is still too high in many areas of Baghdad and across Iraq.”

Still, he rattled off statistics that pointed to progress in lowering violence. Casualties suffered by Iraqi security forces, he said, were down 40 percent since the beginning of the troop reinforcement plan. Civilian fatalities in Baghdad, he said, were down 75 percent in recent months. In some areas, the attacks have not been so low since the spring and summer of 2005.

Since the violence has decreased in Baghdad people have begun trickling back into cafes and streets in the hope that the calm will last.

Two weeks ago, Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki said the dip in violence had allowed 7,000 families to return to Baghdad, though it was not clear how he arrived at that figure.

Link (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/19/world/middleeast/19iraq.html?_r=1&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin)

You are a NY Times junkie Lady Mod, so how in the world did this story get by you unnoticed?

LadyMod at scam.com
11-19-2007, 06:18 PM
You are a NY Times junkie Lady Mod, so how in the world did this story get by you unnoticed?

It didn't. We've already had two or three threads about the surge, so why should I post yet another one?

How redundant can you get Cupcake?


Lady Mod

LadyMod at scam.com
11-19-2007, 06:37 PM
The latest update for you Muffin.

General Says N. Iraq Most Violent Region (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hcWJu9bbzrJZ7uNHjvMn0BuTGqHQD8T10DS81)
By PAULINE JELINEK – 1 hour ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — Despite a decline in violence in Iraq, northern Iraq has become more violent than other regions as al-Qaida and other militants move there to avoid coalition operations elsewhere, the region's top U.S. commander said Monday. Army Maj. Gen. Mark P. Hertling said al-Qaida cells still operate in all the key cities in the north.

"What you're seeing is the enemy shifting," Hertling told Pentagon reporters in a video conference from outside Tikrit in northern Iraq.

Hertling said militants have been pushed east to his area from Anbar by the so-called Awakening movement, in which local tribes have allied with the coalition against al-Qaida. Others have been pushed north to his area from the Baghdad region, where this year's U.S. troops escalation has made more operations possible.

"The attacks are still much higher than I would like here in the north, but they are continuing to decrease in numbers and scale of attacks," he said.

Hertling said 1,830 roadside bombs were placed in his region in June, compared with 900 last month.

The U.S. military says overall attacks in Iraq have fallen 55 percent since nearly 30,000 additional American troops arrived in Iraq by June, and some areas are experiencing their lowest levels of violence since the summer of 2005.

Still, the threat posed by roadside bombs, which the military calls improvised explosive devices, or IEDs, remains a serious problem, retired Gen. Montgomery Meigs, director of the Pentagon's counter-IED organization, told reporters Monday.

Meigs said that while the total number of IED attacks has declined markedly in recent months, the proportion of such attacks that result in U.S. casualties has dropped more slowly. That is at least partly because the insurgents who are still carrying out the attacks have grown more proficient.

"They are better at it," than many of the insurgents who have given up attacking U.S. forces, he said.

Meigs also said that the standoff between the Congress and President Bush over the White House's request for war funding is going to cripple his organization's ability to pay for new counter-IED projects, if it continues into next year. Meigs is leaving his position on Nov. 30, to be replaced by Army Lt. Gen. Thomas Metz, a former commander of U.S. forces in Iraq.

Hertling declined to say how many al-Qaida members he believes are in his area, but he said a recently started operation has netted some 200 detainees who are giving officials good information about the organization and how it operates.

"There are certainly cells remaining in all the key cities" in the north, he said.

"We're doing our very best on a daily basis to break those cells down," Hertling said. "We've had success, but it is still going to be a very tough fight to eliminate those terrorists and insurgents and extremists completely from those areas."

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Yirmeyahu
11-19-2007, 11:33 PM
I'd like to see attacks down to the Feb. 2003 level.

Wouldn't that be nice?

Too bad we can't go back and NOT invade.

Cat slave
11-20-2007, 12:12 AM
Well, we are there, like it or not and if there is some success and some
stability in the wake of the "surge" we should be glad and look to the day
when our soldiers come home.

Hating the little dictator accomplishes nothing but to blow off steam and
go on a rant....I should know.....Im good at it and accomplish nothing in
the process. Hating Bush is becoming rather boring and pointless. We
have 12 months to hope he doesnt do any more damage like weakening
the pension bill, amnesty or invading Iran and everything in between.

And when does congress step up to the plate? Those knights in shining
armor who were going to be so ethical and get good things done for the
country and are nothing short of a bunch of slimy pigs grunting at the
trough of pork cascading from the hill and their jaws stuffed full of "ear
marks" which is nothing but vote buying at tax payer expense.

If the surge has worked...good. Why would anyone want there to be
more failures?? Who would that benefit? Why not embrace good news?
What is to be gained by arguing with facts? Would you rather see more
soldiers die?? For what reason?

Jesse Hemingway
11-20-2007, 01:11 AM
So I guess this is the second time we won the Iraq war? Mission accomplished May, 2003 first Iraq war victory now November 2007 second Iraq war victory. Well if the dumb fuck bush hustles he can get a couple more wins in before he leaves office as the same burnt out drug addict that he is. :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

Jesse Hemingway
11-20-2007, 01:16 AM
So I guess this is the second time we won the Iraq war? Mission accomplished May, 2003 first Iraq war victory now November 2007 second Iraq war victory. Well if the dumb fuck bush hustles he can get a couple more wins in before he leaves office as the same burnt out drug addict that he is. :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

I have to say this twice it is the only truth about the stupid fuck george w. bush what a bag of shit.