53% favor impeaching Bush

[moonman]

and removing him from office:

November 13, 2007 - Impeachment

A total of 64% of American voters say that President George W. Bush has abused his powers as president. Of the 64%, 14% (9% of all voters) say the abuses are not serious enough to warrant impeachment, 33% (21% of all voters) say the abuses rise to the level of impeachable offenses, but he should not be impeached, and 53% (34% of all voters) say the abuses rise to the level of impeachable offenses and Mr. Bush should be impeached and removed from office.

Question:
Which one of these four statements do you agree with about President Bush:
1. President Bush has not abused his powers as president.

2. President Bush has abused his powers as president, but the abuses are not serious enough to warrant impeachment under the Constitution.

3. President Bush has abused his powers as president which rise to the level of impeachable offenses under the Constitution, but he should not be impeached.

4. President Bush has abused his powers as president which rise to the level of impeachable offenses under the Constitution and he should be impeached and removed from office.


11/12/07 #1 #2 #3 #4

All voters 36% 9% 21% 34%

Democrats (39%) 16% 9% 25% 50%
Republicans (35%) 64% 6% 12% 18%
Independents (26%) 29% 11% 26% 34%

Based on 1,100 completed telephone interviews among a random sample of registered voters nationwide November 9-12, 2007. The theoretical margin of error is plus or minus 3 percentage points, 95% of the time.



A total of 70% of American voters say that Vice President Dick Cheney has abused his powers as vice president. Of the 70%, 26% (18% of all voters) say the abuses are not serious enough to warrant impeachment, 13% (9% of all voters) say the abuses rise to the level of impeachable offenses, but he should not be impeached, and 61% (43% of all voters) say the abuses rise to the level of impeachable offenses and Mr. Cheney should be impeached and removed from office.

Question:
Which one of these four statements do you agree with about Vice President Cheney:
1. Vice President Cheney has not abused his powers as vice president.

2. Vice President Cheney has abused his powers as vice president, but the abuses are not serious enough to warrant impeachment under the Constitution.

3. Vice President Cheney has abused his powers as vice president which rise to the level of impeachable offenses under the Constitution, but he should not be impeached.

4. Vice President Cheney has abused his powers as vice president which rise to the level of impeachable offenses under the Constitution and he should be impeached and removed from office.


11/12/07 #1 #2 #3 #4

All voters 30% 18% 9% 43%

Democrats (39%) 6% 25% 6% 63%
Republicans (35%) 61% 12% 6% 21%
Independents (26%) 26% 16% 18% 39%

Based on 1,100 completed telephone interviews among a random sample of registered voters nationwide November 9-12, 2007. The theoretical margin of error is plus or minus 3 percentage points, 95% of the time.

[Jesse Hemingway]

Soon it will be 91% once these wal mart republicans figure out just how bad they been screwed by bushco. :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

[psikeyhackr]

Bush learned from Clinton not to hang out with women that wore blue dresses.

psik

[Nuclearian]

Another idiot that follows polls. "A poll of 640 self proclaimed anti bushites, and 360 PRO Bushites concludes that 64% of Americans support impeaching Bush". Polls are BS meant to fool the easily fooled. You are a fool.

But you go ahead and impeach Bush for NOT violating his oath of office, while you did nothing to remove Klintoon from office after he was impeached and I will love seeing the people show they do not like demonrat hypocrisy and KICK YOUR DUMBO arses out of office again.

[Frankg]

and removing him from office:

November 13, 2007 - Impeachment

A total of 64% of American voters say that President George W. Bush has abused his powers as president. Of the 64%, 14% (9% of all voters) say the abuses are not serious enough to warrant impeachment, 33% (21% of all voters) say the abuses rise to the level of impeachable offenses, but he should not be impeached, and 53% (34% of all voters) say the abuses rise to the level of impeachable offenses and Mr. Bush should be impeached and removed from office.

Question:
Which one of these four statements do you agree with about President Bush:
1. President Bush has not abused his powers as president.

2. President Bush has abused his powers as president, but the abuses are not serious enough to warrant impeachment under the Constitution.

3. President Bush has abused his powers as president which rise to the level of impeachable offenses under the Constitution, but he should not be impeached.

4. President Bush has abused his powers as president which rise to the level of impeachable offenses under the Constitution and he should be impeached and removed from office.


11/12/07 #1 #2 #3 #4

All voters 36% 9% 21% 34%

Democrats (39%) 16% 9% 25% 50%
Republicans (35%) 64% 6% 12% 18%
Independents (26%) 29% 11% 26% 34%

Based on 1,100 completed telephone interviews among a random sample of registered voters nationwide November 9-12, 2007. The theoretical margin of error is plus or minus 3 percentage points, 95% of the time.



A total of 70% of American voters say that Vice President Dick Cheney has abused his powers as vice president. Of the 70%, 26% (18% of all voters) say the abuses are not serious enough to warrant impeachment, 13% (9% of all voters) say the abuses rise to the level of impeachable offenses, but he should not be impeached, and 61% (43% of all voters) say the abuses rise to the level of impeachable offenses and Mr. Cheney should be impeached and removed from office.

Question:
Which one of these four statements do you agree with about Vice President Cheney:
1. Vice President Cheney has not abused his powers as vice president.

2. Vice President Cheney has abused his powers as vice president, but the abuses are not serious enough to warrant impeachment under the Constitution.

3. Vice President Cheney has abused his powers as vice president which rise to the level of impeachable offenses under the Constitution, but he should not be impeached.

4. Vice President Cheney has abused his powers as vice president which rise to the level of impeachable offenses under the Constitution and he should be impeached and removed from office.


11/12/07 #1 #2 #3 #4

All voters 30% 18% 9% 43%

Democrats (39%) 6% 25% 6% 63%
Republicans (35%) 61% 12% 6% 21%
Independents (26%) 26% 16% 18% 39%

Based on 1,100 completed telephone interviews among a random sample of registered voters nationwide November 9-12, 2007. The theoretical margin of error is plus or minus 3 percentage points, 95% of the time.

Who conducted the poll ?

[Nuclearian]

You tell me. Have to ask the original poster, but the same thing applies. Polls are useless because the pollsters make the polls lean towards THEIR desires. Point being is that MORE people are disappointed with the dems than are with Bush.
Basically they think that the dems in Congress are worse than Bush.

[LadyMod at scam.com]

Well unless they can get it done by the end of the year, it's only wishful thinking.

And unless they impeached Cheney at the same time, a dangerous decision.



Lady Mod

[disrupter]

Bush doesn't have any powers 'as president' because he was not elected.

He is a psychotic war criminal.
Authorizing, outlaw torture.

He has defiled the constitution is illegally spying on ALL US domestic phone calls & internet traffic.

Why do people treat him with even an iota of respect or regard?
He's a military deserter.

I guess it is all that careful corporate-think, where everyone is afraid to grow a spine & a pair of testicles & stand up & state the glaring obvious, odious truth.

Maybe we should line up all the corporate suits & start executing them until the ones remaining start expressing real opinions OUT LOUD.

[Nuclearian]

Bush doesn't have any powers 'as president' because he was not elected.

He is a psychotic war criminal.
Authorizing, outlaw torture.

He has defiled the constitution is illegally spying on ALL US domestic phone calls & internet traffic.

Why do people treat him with even an iota of respect or regard?
He's a military deserter.

I guess it is all that careful corporate-think, where everyone is afraid to grow a spine & a pair of testicles & stand up & state the glaring obvious, odious truth.

Maybe we should line up all the corporate suits & start executing them until the ones remaining start expressing real opinions OUT LOUD.
Bush DOES have powers because he WAS elected IN SPITE of all the crazy crap the dumbo's did to TRY and steal the election. When they could not steal the election, they tried to convince the Supreme Court to help them steal it. This tactic was so lame that even the LIBERAL controlled Supreme Court didn't play into that crap.
Where is the "war crime"?
The proof of torture? Oh i get it. The claims of the HONEST insurgents?
As far as the Constitution? You dumbo hypocrites should talk. You pukes have perverted the Constitution so much over your years of tyrannical BS that nobody can understand what it means any more.
They treat him with respect because at least he served time in a national Guard unit, like most of the rich elites did, even Fairy Kerry if he had had enough money to buy his way into it. He hadn't the Heinz influence at the time, but he tried. And the Swift Boat veterans proved how much of a pussy Fairy was.
Maybe it is you who is so brainwashed to grow a spine and admit that you are a pathetic pawn of the Liberal Propaganda BS Machine.
Maybe we should line up the Liberal dumbo's in Congress? We eliminated the COMMUNIST Soviets. Maybe we should eliminate those same people in OUR US Government, who go by the Party name of DEMOCRAT?

[asroc]

This guy can't be real. Is it pwrone or BVR?

[LadyMod at scam.com]

This guy can't be real. Is it pwrone or BVR?

It doesn't sound like either. Pwrone only goes around yelling about liberals.

If it's BVR he'll tip his hand soon enough.


Lady Mod

[Jesse Hemingway]

The republicans are throwing the dumb ass bush under the bus even rove knows he is the complete failure.:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

[Nuclearian]

The republicans are throwing the dumb ass bush under the bus even rove knows he is the complete failure.:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:
You wan t to talk dumbass? Look at your candidates.

[Jesse Hemingway]

You wan t to talk dumbass? Look at your candidates.

'Holy cow,' exclaims MSNBC host, Rove thinks Bush could sink GOP:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

He is your bitch boy be proud fool.


Mike Aivaz and Jason Rhyne
Published: Tuesday November 20, 2007





Former chief Bush political strategist Karl Rove is telling GOP Oval Office seekers in 2008 to keep a safe distance from the man he helped to twice elect, according to MSNBC host Dan Abrams' interpretation of a recent opinion column penned by Rove.

"It sounds to me like Karl Rove is giving the Republican candidates advice that says 'get away from my guy,'" Abrams said of Rove's Saturday column in Newsweek, in which the the former adviser warned that President Bush's lagging poll numbers would do no favors for GOP presidential hopefuls in 2008. "Am I the only one who's reading Karl Rove and saying 'holy cow?'" the host asked later.

In the column, entitled "How to Beat Hillary (Next) November," Rove laid out a loose general election strategy to combat frontrunning Democratic presidential contender Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY).

"So show them who you are in a way that gives the American people hope, optimism and insight," he wrote to would-be Republican nominees. "That's the best antidote to the low approval rates of the Republican president Those numbers will not help the GOP candidate, just as the even lower approval ratings of the Congress will not help the Democratic standard-bearer."

Abrams said that the advice was a telling indicator about the state of the Republican Party.

"When you've got Karl Rove advising...the Republican candidates to effectively distance themselves from President Bush," remarked the host, "I think that tells you how much trouble President Bush, and possibly the Republicans, are in."

Guest pundit Pat Buchanan, himself a former adviser to President Richard Nixon, agreed with Abrams'assessment.

"[Bush] is a liability to the Republican candidate next year," said Buchanan. "I mean, Karl Rove is acting as a strategist here and he's saying exactly what I would say, which is once that convention gets going...move away from the president and the administration. Put distance between them and make Hillary Rodham Clinton the issue and don't let them make Bush the issue."

Buchanan added, however, that Bush would likely be glad to accept criticism from others in his party if it would aid the prospects of 2008 Republican candidates.


http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Karl_Rove_to_Republican_candidates_Distance_1120.h tml

[Nuclearian]

'Holy cow,' exclaims MSNBC host, Rove thinks Bush could sink GOP:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

He is your bitch boy be proud fool.


Mike Aivaz and Jason Rhyne
Published: Tuesday November 20, 2007





Former chief Bush political strategist Karl Rove is telling GOP Oval Office seekers in 2008 to keep a safe distance from the man he helped to twice elect, according to MSNBC host Dan Abrams' interpretation of a recent opinion column penned by Rove.

"It sounds to me like Karl Rove is giving the Republican candidates advice that says 'get away from my guy,'" Abrams said of Rove's Saturday column in Newsweek, in which the the former adviser warned that President Bush's lagging poll numbers would do no favors for GOP presidential hopefuls in 2008. "Am I the only one who's reading Karl Rove and saying 'holy cow?'" the host asked later.

In the column, entitled "How to Beat Hillary (Next) November," Rove laid out a loose general election strategy to combat frontrunning Democratic presidential contender Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY).

"So show them who you are in a way that gives the American people hope, optimism and insight," he wrote to would-be Republican nominees. "That's the best antidote to the low approval rates of the Republican president Those numbers will not help the GOP candidate, just as the even lower approval ratings of the Congress will not help the Democratic standard-bearer."

Abrams said that the advice was a telling indicator about the state of the Republican Party.

"When you've got Karl Rove advising...the Republican candidates to effectively distance themselves from President Bush," remarked the host, "I think that tells you how much trouble President Bush, and possibly the Republicans, are in."

Guest pundit Pat Buchanan, himself a former adviser to President Richard Nixon, agreed with Abrams'assessment.

"[Bush] is a liability to the Republican candidate next year," said Buchanan. "I mean, Karl Rove is acting as a strategist here and he's saying exactly what I would say, which is once that convention gets going...move away from the president and the administration. Put distance between them and make Hillary Rodham Clinton the issue and don't let them make Bush the issue."

Buchanan added, however, that Bush would likely be glad to accept criticism from others in his party if it would aid the prospects of 2008 Republican candidates.


http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Karl_Rove_to_Republican_candidates_Distance_1120.h tml
When dumbo's quote Karl Rove something is amiss. The bashing child of the dumbo's is now one to quote? Dumbo's. No nothings.

[Jesse Hemingway]

Nuclearian the democrats suck just as bad as the republicans another fact.
The problem blind person is that if you do not have a good grasp on drug addiction which your bitch boy is an admitted addict or drunk whatever then you better know the person very well. That mental illness is very complex and the recovery hinges on honesty did I say honesty. :disbelief: :disbelief: :disbelief:

[Nuclearian]

And you think that ANY of the candidates on the dumbo ticket has morality? Heathenistic maybe, but not real morals.
Problem is, the likely winner on the Rep side, Rdy, is AS immoral, or maybe even more immoral than the dumbo's.
I guess i will do like all GOOD Conservative Rep's do. I can NEVER consciously vote for a communist leaning dumbo candidate (they all are, they just call themselves the convenient word (progressives)to convince the idiotic braindead democrats that they like them)), and will REFUSE to vote for a pathetic Rep that i cannot stand, Rdy, who is as pathetic as demonrats as you can get. No vote for the commies, and refuse to vote for worthless Reps. This is how we conservatives convince reps to get back on track for the true american values that this country was founded on, WE believe in, and the reason we won a landslide in 2000 for. If we start acting like demonrats, we will continue to lose, anfd rightly so.
Act like stupid bastards, and the voters see that we are like the true bastards, demonrats, and decide to vote for the REAL bastards instead.

Unless we get someone like Newt Gingrich, who has the values that MAJORITY of America wants, and proved in 2000 with OUR landslide, the reps will never win control again. And the REAL Rep's will ensure they do not. The SURE way for demonrats to win is that Conservative Americans, on the rep and demon side of the political spectrum, get disgusted and do not vote.

That is what is going to happen this election. The demons will be taking everything, and this country will go into pathetic existence. A mockery of the whole world like when rapist klintoon was in charge.
No attacks against those who attack our country, and at the same time blaming it on the reps.
Nothing but higher taxes, nothing to show for it.

[Islam Rocks!]

Nuclearian are you O.K.?

Do we need to call the Paramedics to rescue you for a pcychotic drug overdose?

[Jesse Hemingway]

Unless we get someone like Newt Gingrich, who has the values that MAJORITY of America wants, and proved in 2000 with OUR landslide, the reps will never win control again. And the REAL Rep's will ensure they do not. The SURE way for demonrats to win is that Conservative Americans, on the rep and demon side of the political spectrum, get disgusted and do not vote.


Newt Gingrich's Skeleton Closet

:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

Mr. Family Values is amazingly similar to Bill Clinton - both are pot smoking, draft-dodging adulterers from poor Southern families. Click on the allegation of your choice:


Adultery:
Callista Bisek. Anne Manning. The unnamed "young volunteer". Are we missing anyone?

Draft dodger

Dead-Beat Dad

Family Values? Pressing Wife for Divorce in the Hospital

House Banking Scandal: Newt Bounced 22 Checks

Book Deals: Murdoch's $4.5 Million wasn't the first

GOPAC sleaze: Taxpayer subsidies for his partisan campaign course.

Corporate reward: $2,500/month to Newt's wife

Who Owns Him?

Sources:

Quotes:


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Quotes:
"We had oral sex. He prefers that modus operandi because then he can say, 'I never slept with her.'" - Anne Manning (who was also married at the time.)

"We would have won in 1974 if we could have kept him out of the office, screwing her [a young volunteer] on the desk." - Dot Crews, his campaign scheduler at the time

[In the book] "Men Who Hate Women and the Women Who Love Them", [I] "found frightening pieces that related to my own life." - Newt.

"I think you can write a psychological profile of me that says I found a way to immerse my insecurities in a cause large enough to justify whatever I wanted it to" - Newt, speaking to Gail Sheehy.

"She isn't young enough or pretty enough to be the President's wife." - Newt, on his first wife.

"I don't want him to be president and I don't think he should be." - Newt's wife Marianne.

"If the country today were to move to the left, Newt would sense it before it started happening and lead the way." - Dot Crews, his campaign scheduler throughout the 1970s.

Adultery:
Sex on the Desk - Oral Sex is More Easily Denied
Several newspapers are now reporting that Newt Gingrich is dating and basically living with Callista Bisek, a "willowy blond Congressional aide 23 years his junior." Biske, 33, has been spending nights at Gingrich's apartment near the Capitol and has her own key. In an amazing act of hypocrisy, Gingrich was apparently dating Bisek all during Clinton-Lewinsky adultery scandal, even as he proclaimed family values and bitterly criticized the President for his adultery.

http://www.realchange.org/gingrich.htm

REP NEWT GINGRICH (R-Georgia):
Gingrich just finished another divorce on charges of adultery and has remarried a former aide in Congress. This is nothing new. Although opposed to President Clinton on most issues, he does agree that "oral sex is not sex." According to Newt campaign worker Anne Manning, in 1977 she gave Newt oral sex while he was still married to his first wife. She told Vanity Fair, "we had oral sex. He prefers that modus operandi because then he can say, 'I never slept with her.'" In another example of "family values" he presented his first wife (his high school math teacher) with divorce papers in her hospital bed while she recovered from cancer surgery. Despite all of this, The Irish Times reports that the real reason Gingrich resigned from Congress was that Hustler Magazine had credit card receipts showing that he paid for prostitutes.

http://www.comedyontap.com/features/congress.html

[Moby]

And you think that ANY of the candidates on the dumbo ticket has morality?
You're not one of those people that believes that any DC politician has actual morals are you?

I mean you seem like you're crazy but few people are that can read and write are that stupid.

[Nuclearian]

Nuclearian are you O.K.?

Do we need to call the Paramedics to rescue you for a pcychotic drug overdose?
YOU are the Islamic fool. YOU obviously need a mental incarceration. Heal thyself Nazi. In your case its not drugs making you wacked. Just your psychotic faith.

[Nuclearian]

You're not one of those people that believes that any DC politician has actual morals are you?

I mean you seem like you're crazy but few people are that can read and write are that stupid.
Just a realist Moby in a world of crazies who refuse to be. Sorry to hurt you Moby.

[Nuclearian]

You're not one of those people that believes that any DC politician has actual morals are you?

I mean you seem like you're crazy but few people are that can read and write are that stupid.
Just a realist Moby in a world of crazies who refuse to be. Sorry to hurt you Moby.

[Nuclearian]

Newt Gingrich's Skeleton Closet

:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

Mr. Family Values is amazingly similar to Bill Clinton - both are pot smoking, draft-dodging adulterers from poor Southern families. Click on the allegation of your choice:


Adultery:
Callista Bisek. Anne Manning. The unnamed "young volunteer". Are we missing anyone?

Draft dodger

Dead-Beat Dad

Family Values? Pressing Wife for Divorce in the Hospital

House Banking Scandal: Newt Bounced 22 Checks

Book Deals: Murdoch's $4.5 Million wasn't the first

GOPAC sleaze: Taxpayer subsidies for his partisan campaign course.

Corporate reward: $2,500/month to Newt's wife

Who Owns Him?

Sources:

Quotes:


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Quotes:
"We had oral sex. He prefers that modus operandi because then he can say, 'I never slept with her.'" - Anne Manning (who was also married at the time.)

"We would have won in 1974 if we could have kept him out of the office, screwing her [a young volunteer] on the desk." - Dot Crews, his campaign scheduler at the time

[In the book] "Men Who Hate Women and the Women Who Love Them", [I] "found frightening pieces that related to my own life." - Newt.

"I think you can write a psychological profile of me that says I found a way to immerse my insecurities in a cause large enough to justify whatever I wanted it to" - Newt, speaking to Gail Sheehy.

"She isn't young enough or pretty enough to be the President's wife." - Newt, on his first wife.

"I don't want him to be president and I don't think he should be." - Newt's wife Marianne.

"If the country today were to move to the left, Newt would sense it before it started happening and lead the way." - Dot Crews, his campaign scheduler throughout the 1970s.

Adultery:
Sex on the Desk - Oral Sex is More Easily Denied
Several newspapers are now reporting that Newt Gingrich is dating and basically living with Callista Bisek, a "willowy blond Congressional aide 23 years his junior." Biske, 33, has been spending nights at Gingrich's apartment near the Capitol and has her own key. In an amazing act of hypocrisy, Gingrich was apparently dating Bisek all during Clinton-Lewinsky adultery scandal, even as he proclaimed family values and bitterly criticized the President for his adultery.

http://www.realchange.org/gingrich.htm

REP NEWT GINGRICH (R-Georgia):
Gingrich just finished another divorce on charges of adultery and has remarried a former aide in Congress. This is nothing new. Although opposed to President Clinton on most issues, he does agree that "oral sex is not sex." According to Newt campaign worker Anne Manning, in 1977 she gave Newt oral sex while he was still married to his first wife. She told Vanity Fair, "we had oral sex. He prefers that modus operandi because then he can say, 'I never slept with her.'" In another example of "family values" he presented his first wife (his high school math teacher) with divorce papers in her hospital bed while she recovered from cancer surgery. Despite all of this, The Irish Times reports that the real reason Gingrich resigned from Congress was that Hustler Magazine had credit card receipts showing that he paid for prostitutes.

http://www.comedyontap.com/features/congress.html
Lst thing you should do is quote faults for a conservative. lord knows there are more skeletons in the dumbo's side of the house. I am sure you are a Hitlery foolnatic.

[Moby]

Just a realist Moby in a world of crazies who refuse to be. Sorry to hurt you Moby.
You ignored the question. I would ask why you ignored it but you'd probably ignore that question as well.

[moonman]

Another idiot that follows polls. "A poll of 640 self proclaimed anti bushites, and 360 PRO Bushites concludes that 64% of Americans support impeaching Bush". Polls are BS meant to fool the easily fooled. You are a fool.

But you go ahead and impeach Bush for NOT violating his oath of office, while you did nothing to remove Klintoon from office after he was impeached and I will love seeing the people show they do not like demonrat hypocrisy and KICK YOUR DUMBO arses out of office again.

Interesting, rebutal. You don't where I got the poll but you know the breakdown? The pollster reported that, "Based on 1,100 completed telephone interviews among a random sample of registered voters nationwide November 9-12, 2007. The theoretical margin of error is plus or minus 3 percentage points, 95% of the time."

I report, you invent and I'm a fool?

Nuclearian, you'll have to do much better than "fool" "dumbo" and "dumbass" for me to engage you in name calling. Yawn, prove yourself to be at least a worthy opponent and we can have some name calling fun. for example:

Had you called me an Assturbater, I would have said no, I'm neither a Bush supporter or a Republican male.

Had you called me a Mushroom Headed Liberal Loon, I might laugh and give you respect by responding in kind.

Or how 'bout "LIQ" pronounced 'lick' for Low I.Q.

No fair using mine. No copycats is the first rule of name calling. If you insist on name calling though, at least register a beep on the name calling meter. "Fool" "Dumbo" "Dumbass" is obtuse.

[Nuclearian]

Interesting, rebutal. You don't where I got the poll but you know the breakdown? The pollster reported that, "Based on 1,100 completed telephone interviews among a random sample of registered voters nationwide November 9-12, 2007. The theoretical margin of error is plus or minus 3 percentage points, 95% of the time."

I report, you invent and I'm a fool?

Nuclearian, you'll have to do much better than "fool" "dumbo" and "dumbass" for me to engage you in name calling. Yawn, prove yourself to be at least a worthy opponent and we can have some name calling fun. for example:

Had you called me an Assturbater, I would have said no, I'm neither a Bush supporter or a Republican male.

Had you called me a Mushroom Headed Liberal Loon, I might laugh and give you respect by responding in kind.

Or how 'bout "LIQ" pronounced 'lick' for Low I.Q.

No fair using mine. No copycats is the first rule of name calling. If you insist on name calling though, at least register a beep on the name calling meter. "Fool" "Dumbo" "Dumbass" is obtuse.
Once again, polls are BS! You say Random, but what do you mean by Random? Random selection of 640 Liberals out of 1000 to be polled? Still biased if you ask me.
Just like I can call 640 Right Wing Republicans out of 1000 and asked them if they are the Modern version of the old Soviet Socialists, and they would say YES! If I took a poll, and wanted people to think MY opinion is right, i would ensure the "random" people werte still going to lean my direction.

[moonman]

Once again, polls are BS! You say Random, but what do you mean by Random? Random selection of 640 Liberals out of 1000 to be polled? Still biased if you ask me.
Just like I can call 640 Right Wing Republicans out of 1000 and asked them if they are the Modern version of the old Soviet Socialists, and they would say YES! If I took a poll, and wanted people to think MY opinion is right, i would ensure the "random" people werte still going to lean my direction.

I see you're avoiding name calling. Good choice. You still invent numbers and claim it as fact. I'll ignore that as it speaks for itself. Let's deal with, "Once again, all polls are BS!"

Ever hear of the packaged goods industry, Nuclearian? Thought not. How 'bout companies like Colgate, Proctor & Gamble or Kellog? Ring a bell? Good. Now toss in the auto industry and movies and games and banking and insurance and every product and service designed for general consumers.

Now consider that every message you receive from where a product is placed on a shelf to the design of a car to who that car is designed to appeal to, to the type of checking account or insurance product is all based on a poll, survey or focus group study, even including the freakin' name of the product and the color of the package.

Do you have some idea now how many hundreds of billions of dollars in decision making is based on polling? Do you really think that people who make billion dollar decisions are basing those decisions on B.S.?

The again, why am I 'splaining 12 figure decision making to someone who at most might have made one, six figure decision. Silly me.

[Nuclearian]

I see you're avoiding name calling. Good choice. You still invent numbers and claim it as fact. I'll ignore that as it speaks for itself. Let's deal with, "Once again, all polls are BS!"

Ever hear of the packaged goods industry, Nuclearian? Thought not. How 'bout companies like Colgate, Proctor & Gamble or Kellog? Ring a bell? Good. Now toss in the auto industry and movies and games and banking and insurance and every product and service designed for general consumers.

Now consider that every message you receive from where a product is placed on a shelf to the design of a car to who that car is designed to appeal to, to the type of checking account or insurance product is all based on a poll, survey or focus group study, even including the freakin' name of the product and the color of the package.

Do you have some idea now how many hundreds of billions of dollars in decision making is based on polling? Do you really think that people who make billion dollar decisions are basing those decisions on B.S.?

The again, why am I 'splaining 12 figure decision making to someone who at most might have made one, six figure decision. Silly me.
Once again, those who poll for a RESULT will be biased towards that result. I think Gun Control just helps criminals who would not follow gun control laws anyway. My poll question would be, "Do you think Gun Control legislation will curtail murders by handguns". If I wanted the polls to show that people believe it does, when facts prove otherwise, then i would poll a MAJORITY of people who support mY opinion to pawn it off to agree with me.

Polls reference to PRODUCTS would be different because it is generally not a subject matter that people get radical about as say Religion and politics. Agreed?

[moonman]

Once again, those who poll for a RESULT will be biased towards that result. I think Gun Control just helps criminals who would not follow gun control laws anyway. My poll question would be, "Do you think Gun Control legislation will curtail murders by handguns". If I wanted the polls to show that people believe it does, when facts prove otherwise, then i would poll a MAJORITY of people who support mY opinion to pawn it off to agree with me.

Polls reference to PRODUCTS would be different because it is generally not a subject matter that people get radical about as say Religion and politics. Agreed?

No, not agreed. Based on you're responses in this thread I do believe you could actually produce impeachment results based on the question, "Do you think gun control legislation will curtail murders by handguns." Secondly, guns don't murder.

Thirdly you continue aledging that the survey was not a random sampling with no evidence to back up your statement.

[Nuclearian]

And where is YOUR evidence that it WAS random? I was stating that polls are not a true guage of opinion because they can, and mostly are, biased.

[Little Red Dog]

Moonman... you DO realize you're trying to present a rational argument to someone who uses ann coulter as his sig line...

[Islam Rocks!]

Moonman... you DO realize you're trying to present a rational argument to someone who uses ann coulter as his sig line... Good observation Dog. I hadn't noticed that.

Ann Coulter is the most brain dead, nasty skank on the planet!!

[disrupter]

Bush did not 'dodge' the draft he deserted from military duty, not even in Vietnam but from the National Guard in Florida.

Bush implemented torture. He is a war criminal, despite Mukasey's prevarications & obfuscations.

AND Bush wasn't even elected in 04, he was installed by the criminal elite NeoCrooks.

I wonder if that makes the Secret Service complicit in the fraud of protecting a criminal posing as the president?

Another intelligence organization of the US government that deserves to be scrapped.

[moonman]

Moonman... you DO realize you're trying to present a rational argument to someone who uses ann coulter as his sig line...

MegaDuhs@me:banghead:

[Nuclearian]

Moonman... you DO realize you're trying to present a rational argument to someone who uses ann coulter as his sig line...
And what is your idea of rational? Al Gore? lol I would believe COMMON SENSE truths from Ann before i would give any credence to Al Gores whoise only claim to fasme was inventing the internet. lol What a loon.

[Nuclearian]

Good observation Dog. I hadn't noticed that.

Ann Coulter is the most brain dead, nasty skank on the planet!!
Ann Coulter is a skank? have you looked at Chillary? She has a face good enough to piss on.

[Nuclearian]

Bush did not 'dodge' the draft he deserted from military duty, not even in Vietnam but from the National Guard in Florida.

Bush implemented torture. He is a war criminal, despite Mukasey's prevarications & obfuscations.

AND Bush wasn't even elected in 04, he was installed by the criminal elite NeoCrooks.

I wonder if that makes the Secret Service complicit in the fraud of protecting a criminal posing as the president?

Another intelligence organization of the US government that deserves to be scrapped.
He served in the National guard, like Fairy would have but couldn't get it because he had not enough money and influence.
War Criminal? Evidence? As opposed to the war criminal Klintoon who attacked a SOVEREIGN nation like Serbia, blowing up a train with innocent Serbs because the Serbs had the nerver to tell the US we had no right to tell them to give KOSOVO to land stealing Nazi mussies?
Not elected in 2004? Heck, he won by 1 million plus more votes in 04 than he did in 2000. Sore loser? When will you learn that illegal aliens and dead people CANNOT vote dumbocrap? Okay, so dead people can vote and get a dumbo governor INSTALLED in washington state.

I am sure you want the intel agency disbanded because of your hatred of islamofacist terrorists being investigated. Want the gool ole days of klintoon back when he did NOTHING and allowed our peoples to be attacked and murdered?

[mwillman]

Shouldnt that be nukulerian.

I mean you have your head so far up Bush's ass you might as well have a name that matches his ignorant speach patterns.

[disrupter]

Nuclearian, (that would be Nu-ka-Lur-ian to bush.)

You sound irrational.

Upset about something?

Truth got you down again?

Try some cocaine, GWB probably has his stash somewhere around the Whitehouse he uses to distort & escape from the reality mess he has created, so just ask him for some.

[Nuclearian]

Shouldnt that be nukulerian.

I mean you have your head so far up Bush's ass you might as well have a name that matches his ignorant speach patterns.
You should talk. Your head is so far up liberals ass that makes your intel level a LOW GRADE moron.

[Nuclearian]

Nuclearian, (that would be Nu-ka-Lur-ian to bush.)

You sound irrational.

Upset about something?

Truth got you down again?

Try some cocaine, GWB probably has his stash somewhere around the Whitehouse he uses to distort & escape from the reality mess he has created, so just ask him for some.
And i am sure you give "DICKsucktion" to Klintoon. or is it Al Gore? Hmm. Maybe both. lol

[mwillman]

Poor nukuler

the fact that you would pick such a name just tells me you are a war mongering pig with the intellect of a trained rat.

Tell me are you in the military?

I see your in Korea, Why dont you volunteer for Iraq?

Since you seem to support the imperialist agenda, why dont you have the balls to put your ass were you mouth always go's. Or are you just a hypocrate.

[Nuclearian]

Poor nukuler

the fact that you would pick such a name just tells me you are a war mongering pig with the intellect of a trained rat.

Tell me are you in the military?

I see your in Korea, Why dont you volunteer for Iraq?

Since you seem to support the imperialist agenda, why dont you have the balls to put your ass were you mouth always go's. Or are you just a hypocrate.
Ole poor witless. I pick the name because it goes with my job, Nuclear, Biological and chemical field. You know those WMD's that you IDIOTS do not believe that saddam had?
Yes I am in the military and yes have done my tour in Iraq. I am now in korea for a year, and will go back upon my leaving here. As opposed to you, I am not a coward. I will fight for this country, rather than take your course and BITCH everytime we attack our enemies. thats what you WORTHLESS american cowards do.
So rather than call me a HYPOCRITE, just go call yourself a worthless coward who wouldn't fight an enemy even if they were raping your own daughters. But don't worry, WE will kill them for you, while you complain that we killed your daughters violators. Pathetic!

[Jesse Hemingway]

Ann Coulter is a skank? have you looked at Chillary? She has a face good enough to piss on.

I hate Hillary as much as I hate bush but now, that you say that your in the military you gave me a reason to vote for her then she will become your new daddy.:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: Are you sure your in the United States military boot camp?

[Jesse Hemingway]

Ole poor witless. I pick the name because it goes with my job, Nuclear, Biological and chemical field. You know those WMD's that you IDIOTS do not believe that saddam had?
Yes I am in the military and yes have done my tour in Iraq. I am now in korea for a year, and will go back upon my leaving here. As opposed to you, I am not a coward. I will fight for this country, rather than take your course and BITCH everytime we attack our enemies. thats what you WORTHLESS american cowards do.
So rather than call me a HYPOCRITE, just go call yourself a worthless coward who wouldn't fight an enemy even if they were raping your own daughters. But don't worry, WE will kill them for you, while you complain that we killed your daughters violators. Pathetic!

I call bullshit bootcamp, the military has not lowered their standards that low.