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Frankg
11-10-2007, 05:07 AM
Rove Points Out Nutroot's Potty Mouths... Gets Cussed Out
You could have seen this coming...


The Washington Times (http://video1.washingtontimes.com/fishwrap/2007/11/karl_roves_advice_for_fuming_s.html) reported on Karl Rove's speech yesterday on the political discourse on the Left:

Karl Rove teed off this afternoon on the liberal netroots, the coalition of far-left blogs and advocacy groups who are a new power bloc in the Democratic party.

"The Web has given angry and vitriolic people more of a voice in public discourse," said Mr. Rove, who served as one of President Bush's top strategists until he resigned this past summer, and is a noted technology nut.

"People in the past who have been on the nutty fringe of political life, who were more or less voiceless, have now been given an inexpensive and easily accessible soapbox, a blog," Mr. Rove said during a speech about politics and the Web at the Willard InterContinental, a hotel just blocks from his former place of employment.

"I'm a fan of many blogs. I visit them frequently and I learn a lot from them," Mr. Rove said. "But there also blogs written by angry kooks."

Mr. Rove cited the results of a study that found that writers and commenters on liberal blogs such as DailyKos.com cursed far more than writers and commenters on conservative Web sites such as FreeRepublic.com.

"My point is not that liberals swear publicly more often than conservatives. That may be true, but that's not my point," Mr. Rove said. "It is that the netroots often argue from anger rather than reason, and too often, their object is personal release, not political persuasion."

In response, Karl Rove got cussed out by the nutroots.


The commenters at Crooks and Liars (http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/09/rove-bloggers/) and Atrios (http://atrios.blogspot.com/2007_11_04_archive.html#1760470508913863769) proved Rove right.
Here's a fine example:
"F*ck the f*cking f*ckers."
(asterics mine)

This is what happened when the students at News Buckit (http://newsbuckit.blogspot.com/2007/02/seven-words-you-can-never-say-on.html)compared nutroots profanity with profanity on the right:

And this is what I found, using what I deemed -- through a mix of TTLB and 2006's Weblog Award lists -- to be the 18 biggest Lefty blogs, and 22 biggest Righty blogs. (Not counting this one. :)) I couldn't account for the 6-month time period, and I even gave the Lefty blogs a 4 blog advantage. But it didn't make much of a difference.


So how much more does the Left use Carlin's "seven words" versus the Right?
According to my calculations, try somewhere in the range of 18-to-1.

Here are the data tables.
First a look at nutroot's profanity:
http://bp1.blogger.com/_L6pDyjqqsvY/RzULO3zDFmI/AAAAAAAAI3Y/pd7vUvOBq7M/s400/7+words.jpg (http://bp1.blogger.com/_L6pDyjqqsvY/RzULO3zDFmI/AAAAAAAAI3Y/pd7vUvOBq7M/s1600-h/7+words.jpg)
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Then a look at profanity on the right:
http://bp1.blogger.com/_L6pDyjqqsvY/RzULZ3zDFnI/AAAAAAAAI3g/zbSjPxBZC-s/s400/7+words2.jpg (http://bp1.blogger.com/_L6pDyjqqsvY/RzULZ3zDFnI/AAAAAAAAI3g/zbSjPxBZC-s/s1600-h/7+words2.jpg)
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Again- feel free to go to The NewsBuckit (http://newsbuckit.blogspot.com/2007/02/seven-words-you-can-never-say-on.html) to get the complete results.

Rove was right on with this one... The next time you hear a nutty Lefty blogger compare the profanity or hate speech on the two sides of the blogosphere, just remember... 18 to 1!!

Moby
11-10-2007, 08:22 AM
Frankie, Frankie, Frankie.

Your drawing the conclusion that you're told to draw instead of thinking for yourself again.

1. The Huffington Post sees more visitors then all the sites listed on the right combined. The same could be said for Kos.

2. They are also very different types of blogs with different types of support. Sites like Michelle Malkin regularly edit posts while sites like Kos will never edit speech even though they disagree with him.

3. The sites on the right are also looking for large corporate and church sponsors so they have to remove the profanity.

4. Just because an open forum is run by the left doesn't mean that the left is posting all the profanity. Read through Kos and take a look at who is using the profanity. You will quickly see exactly what you see here.

5. Who posted most of the profanity on our board here? Was it Radioguy or LadyMod?

Just because the left doesn't squash speech as quickly, gets far more readers and doesn't give in to the dollars of the religious right as quickly doesn't add up to your conclusions.

Come on Frankie. Think for yourself.

LadyMod at scam.com
11-10-2007, 08:39 AM
Is Frankie the language police now?

LOL

Frankg
11-10-2007, 09:43 AM
The point is , 99 .9999 % of you people post out of anger ,not reason and I agee Jim might have gotten out of control ,just a tad , but ladymod-moonman lit the fuse

Frankg
11-10-2007, 09:43 AM
Frankie, Frankie, Frankie.

Your drawing the conclusion that you're told to draw instead of thinking for yourself again.

1. The Huffington Post sees more visitors then all the sites listed on the right combined. The same could be said for Kos.

2. They are also very different types of blogs with different types of support. Sites like Michelle Malkin regularly edit posts while sites like Kos will never edit speech even though they disagree with him.

3. The sites on the right are also looking for large corporate and church sponsors so they have to remove the profanity.

4. Just because an open forum is run by the left doesn't mean that the left is posting all the profanity. Read through Kos and take a look at who is using the profanity. You will quickly see exactly what you see here.

5. Who posted most of the profanity on our board here? Was it Radioguy or LadyMod?

Just because the left doesn't squash speech as quickly, gets far more readers and doesn't give in to the dollars of the religious right as quickly doesn't add up to your conclusions.

Come on Frankie. Think for yourself.

The point is , 99 .9999 % of you people post out of anger ,not reason and I agee Jim might have gotten out of control ,just a tad , but ladymod-moonman lit the fuse

Frankg
11-10-2007, 09:46 AM
Is Frankie the language police now?

LOL

No ladymod , sometimes it helps to have data to back your conclusions

Independent Harry
11-10-2007, 09:59 AM
No ladymod , sometimes it helps to have data to back your conclusions

lol, data, fank I see more opinion posts from you and grim than any other people on this board.

LadyMod at scam.com
11-10-2007, 10:02 AM
The point is , 99 .9999 % of you people post out of anger ,not reason and I agee Jim might have gotten out of control ,just a tad , but ladymod-moonman lit the fuse


Your percentages are way off. Take a good look at the posts on this forum. Rarely does anyone on the left post out of anger.

Then look at the posts from the right. If you are honest, you will note that percentagewise, there are more that make an emotional post than those on the left. In fact, your mentor, RG has stated on another thread that he debates from emotion. He didn't want to debate Moonman even though RG was the one who called for the debate.

No one has to light RG's fuse frank. He never has it unlit. He no longer has dchristie and a liberal moderator he claims shows favortism to complain about on scam. So now he invents reasons to be ticked off here.

I didn't break a single rule when addressing RG. Unfortunately we can't say the same thing about how RG addresses everyone who disagrees with him here.


All he has to do is follow a few simple rules. Rules I might add that had to be posted due to his first temper tantrum. No one has been shown favortism when it comes to enforcing those rules. But the same boundaries the left have to work in are also the same RG has to work in. If he doesn't like the confinements then maybe he should go to one of those allowed to cuss like a sailor forums that you posted and get it off his chest.

Frankly, if you can follow the rules as much as you are picked on here, he shouldn't have any problems doing so either.


Lady Mod

Cat slave
11-10-2007, 11:32 AM
The point is , 99 .9999 % of you people post out of anger ,not reason and I agee Jim might have gotten out of control ,just a tad , but ladymod-moonman lit the fuse


This is true!

Cat slave
11-10-2007, 11:36 AM
lol, data, fank I see more opinion posts from you and grim than any other people on this board.


Hmmm.....I thought that was why we come here for entertainment and batting
around issues. We all have opinions and if they werent different it would be
boring as its becoming....blah, blah, blah. And they are not the top poster(s)
in my book. I avoid interacting with some because it is like casting pearls
before swine, pouring sand down a rat hole and I dont care for exercises in
futility. I have too much to do.

mwillman
11-10-2007, 01:08 PM
I think people need to worry more about what the right wing has done to destroy this nation rather then worry about how many cuss words a person uses.

Rove might not cuss at all but that doesnt mean he is not one of the most evil men in american history.

The right wing needs to learn a little more about human rights and stop worrying so much about how much is in thier bank accounts.

Moby
11-10-2007, 02:01 PM
The point is , 99 .9999 % of you people post out of anger ,not reason and I agee Jim might have gotten out of control ,just a tad , but ladymod-moonman lit the fuse
So 1 out of 1,000,000 of US people post out of something other then anger? I'd love to see the data for this one.

A powder keg is powder keg. If LadyMod didn't light the fuse then sooner or later the fuse would have lit itself or someone else would have lit it. If he had the typical emotional control of most adults then there would be no fuse to be lit.

LadyMod/Moonman and Radioguy are going to fight like spiteful siblings. That's just how it's going to be. However if he's going to let it bother him then he has no chance winning of defending himself and he shouldn't enter the ring.

Kinky Jones
11-10-2007, 02:21 PM
"go fuck yourself" our vice prez on capitol hill, do you see where his followers get it from? :thumbsup:


:lmao2:

i blame george carlin

moonman
11-10-2007, 02:33 PM
Every issue poll I read these days sez liberals cursing is like the 4,367th issue on voter's minds.

LadyMod at scam.com
11-10-2007, 03:00 PM
"go fuck yourself" our vice prez on capitol hill, do you see where his followers get it from? :thumbsup:


:lmao2:

i blame george carlin

I love George Carlin, he's funny.


But in light of the rest of your post, you made a great point.



Cussing's no stranger to the Bush White House (http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politics/whispers/articles/040712/12whisplead.htm)
Paul Bedard
Posted 7/4/04

Vice President Dick Cheney doesn't own the market on swearwords like the F-bomb he dropped on Vermont Democrat Patrick Leahy. Turns out President Bush has quite the mouth, following in a rich tradition of cussing presidents. "He uses the 'F' word as an adjective, a verb, and a noun," says one adviser. Ditto for the "S" word. But not often in anger. "It's more conversational," adds the insider, "like how guys talk." In a White House that prides itself on self-control, Bush doesn't swear much in the Oval Office and never in front of his wife or new acquaintances. "It's less in the Oval than other places. The more relaxed he gets, the more he uses it," another associate says. A Clinton-Gore aide says Bubba and his veep did the same. "They were very mindful of where they were," says the aide. Like past presidents, Bush is unapologetic about his cussing. In fact, when Democrats called on Cheney to apologize to Leahy, whom he crudely put down last month, it was Bush who blocked him. "Bush said, 'You said it, so don't back away from it,' " an associate says


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asroc
11-10-2007, 07:12 PM
This is a stupid argument either way. Frank's an idiot for caring about who has a potty mouth, and anybody arguing with him is an idiot for taking his bait every time.

I have toddler nieces and nephews that show more grace and maturity.

LadyMod at scam.com
11-10-2007, 07:20 PM
This is a stupid argument either way. Frank's an idiot for caring about who has a potty mouth, and anybody arguing with him is an idiot for taking his bait every time.

I have toddler nieces and nephews that show more grace and maturity.

Welcome to the "idiot" club Ian.


Don't let any of us stop you from posting something more worthwhile to discuss.


Lady Mod