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LadyMod at scam.com
10-19-2007, 01:27 PM
Here we go again. Hmmmm, maybe instead of fighting Iran we'll send in more troops to fight Kurds.

Turkey: Iraq should tackle Kurdish rebels (http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2007-10-19-turkey-iraq_N.htm)


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ANKARA, Turkey (AP) — Turkey's prime minister said Friday that Iraq could satisfy Turkey, forestalling Turkish military action in northern part of the country, by eradicating Kurdish rebel bases and extraditing rebel leaders.But Iraq's foreign minister has said the country does not have the resources now to defeat the guerrillas. And the exchange did not appear to diminish the prospect that a new war front might soon be opened inside Iraq

Turkey has threatened to cross the Iraqi border to try to wipe out Kurdish rebel bases, arguing it has the right to fight terrorism. The United States and Iraq oppose such unilateral action, fearing it could destabilize northern Iraq, the most stable part of the country.

Iraq's Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, a Kurd, said Thursday that Baghdad was willing to increase pressure on the guerrilla Kurdistan Workers' Party, or PKK. But his comments drew a mixed response from Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

"We welcome this as a positive step, but it is an announcement that came late," Erdogan said Friday in Istanbul. "The PKK camps must be eradicated and the rebel leaders must be extradited. That would satisfy Turkey."

Zebari said Thursday that Iraq doesn't have the forces to push the PKK out of Iraq.

"The Iraqi government is not running away from its responsibilities. It's just a question of time," Zebari said. "You need to dislodge them by force. Iraqi security forces are battling the terrorists in the streets of Baghdad and many other key cities and are over-stretched."

Zebari said Iraq could take steps to cut off supplies and create checkpoints to limit access for the rebels in the north. He also recommended three-party talks between Iraq, Turkey and the United States.

But Turkey said its patience has run out in the face of escalating attacks by Kurdish rebels. And Erdogan said he had told Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki that Turkey does not want to be "deceived with promises."

The U.S. lists the PKK as a terrorist organization, but has called on the Turkish government to work with Iraqis. U.S. President Bush said Turkey has had troops stationed in northern Iraq and should not send more across the border.

Since the mid-1990s, Turkey has had around 1,500 soldiers stationed in northern Iraq to monitor PKK activities and gather intelligence.

A senior rebel commander, Murat Karayilan, said Friday that his fighters could target oil pipelines inside Turkey if Turkish forces move across the border to hit Kurdish rebel camps. Turkey says there are 3,800 rebels holed up in Iraqi mountains.

"Because of the fact that oil pipelines passing through Kurdistan provides resources for the Turkish army's aggression, it's very natural for the guerrillas to target them," the pro-Kurdish Firat news agency quoted Karayilan as saying. He was referring to twin oil pipelines running from northern Iraq to Turkey's Mediterranean oil terminal at Ceyhan.

The PKK has blown up the pipelines before, disrupting oil flow for several days.

Erdogan, meanwhile, thanked the U.S. administration for trying to block a resolution in the U.S. Congress that calls the World War I-era killing of up to 1.5 million Armenians in Turkey "genocide."

"We have no worry about our history. There is nothing like genocide in our belief and nobody can hold us responsible for a thing that we have not committed," Erdogan said.

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Smurf-Herder
10-19-2007, 10:18 PM
Iraqi Kurds vow region will fight if attacked
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5jWeuRQygK1hK2MMQ5QElc4D98mpA

LadyMod at scam.com
10-19-2007, 10:34 PM
Iraqi Kurds vow region will fight if attacked
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5jWeuRQygK1hK2MMQ5QElc4D98mpA


Me thinks there be trouble brewing just over the horizon.


:scared1:

Smurf-Herder
10-19-2007, 10:45 PM
Me thinks there be trouble brewing just over the horizon.


:scared1:


Me thinks the Turks are masters of brinksmanship.

Turkey calls on U.S. to seize Kurds in Iraq
http://www.newsday.com/news/printedition/world/ny-woiraq195422126oct19,0,1237276.story

Iraq PM proposes joint operation with Turkey-TV
http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSL17724286

I don't think they want to have to go into Iraq. But they're serious about wanting a stop to PKK activity. I think they're using the (believable) threat of military force, to force a political decision. And if that's the case, it hopefully may work.

Bill
10-20-2007, 12:10 AM
Arguably, since we are the military force that owns and controls Iraq, the Kurds are legitimately our problem.

It makes me laugh so hard I'm gonna bust a rib, to think about the "Iraqi Army" going after the Kurds.

Smurf-Herder
10-20-2007, 12:47 AM
Arguably, since we are the military force that owns and controls Iraq, the Kurds are legitimately our problem.

It makes me laugh so hard I'm gonna bust a rib, to think about the "Iraqi Army" going after the Kurds.

It would be the Kurdish Peshmerga, with over 100,000 troops. They're good.

Bill
10-20-2007, 01:00 AM
It would be the Kurdish Peshmerga, with over 100,000 troops. They're good.

They would kill the Iraq Army soldiers (or should we call it the Shia Militia Forces?) like my cat kills voles.

So, the only force capable of doing anything about the Kurds are the military overlords.

And that would be us.

Smurf-Herder
10-20-2007, 01:06 AM
They would kill the Iraq Army soldiers (or should we call it the Shia Militia Forces?) like my cat kills voles.

So, the only force capable of doing anything about the Kurds are the military overlords.

And that would be us.

No. The Kurdish Peshmerga are the Iraqi military for the Kurdistan region. They can take on the PKK. There are around 3,000 PKK. The Kurds can police their own, under supervision and with support.

Bill
10-20-2007, 01:08 AM
No. The Kurdish Peshmerga are the Iraqi military for the Kurdistan region. They can take on the PKK. There are around 3,000 PKK. The Kurds can police their own, under supervision.

Sure they will.

I'll bet they jump right on that.

Smurf-Herder
10-20-2007, 01:09 AM
Sure they will.

I'll bet they jump right on that.

That's exactly why Turkey is forcing the issue.

Bill
10-20-2007, 01:42 AM
That's exactly why Turkey is forcing the issue.

So maybe the Peshmurga will be all like, "Come on in Turkey, we can't stop those naughty terrorists, maybe you can...".

And the US will be all like "You Peshmurga better kill those rebels.", and the Peshmurga will be all like "Right away boss!".

Good luck with that.