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disrupter
10-18-2007, 02:26 PM
So the Big War Machine is in favor of Hillary Clinton.

Hmm, had enough needless wars?

I have.

Defense Industry Embraces Democrats, Hillary by Far the Favorite

Thomas B. Edsall, 17 Oct. 07, huff post

The defense industry this year abandoned its decade-long commitment to the Republican Party, funneling the lion share of its contributions to Democratic presidential candidates, especially to Hillary Clinton who far out-paced all her competitors.

An examination of contributions of $500 or more, using the Huffington Post's Fundrace website, shows that employees of the top five arms makers - Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Northrop-Grumman, Raytheon and General Dynamics -- gave Democratic presidential candidates $103,900, with only $86,800 going to Republicans.

Senator Clinton took in $52,600, more than half of the total going to all Democrats, and a figure equaling 60 percent of the sum going to the entire GOP field. Her closest competitor for defense industry money is former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney (R.), who raised $32,000.

Insofar as defense workers making political donations reflect the interests of their employers, the contributions clearly suggest that the arms industry has reach the conclusion that Democratic prospects for 2008 are very good indeed. Since their profits are so heavily dependent on government contracts, companies in this field want to be sure they do not have hostile relations with the White House.

The strong support for Clinton indicates that a majority of defense industry executives currently believe Clinton is a favorite to win the Democratic nomination and, in November, 2008, the general election.http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/10/17/defense-industry-embraces_n_68927.html

The winner has been selected,
voters need not attend.

in fact they are strongly advised not to, as the NSA has the screws on all your secrets. Blackmail will be used.

Moby
10-18-2007, 05:12 PM
I read that in the WSJ a few weeks ago. It's interesting that almost everyone except the oil industry, Rupert Murdock, Disney and the rest of the conservative media are abandoning the GOP.

kres24GT
10-18-2007, 05:33 PM
I read that in the WSJ a few weeks ago. It's interesting that almost everyone except the oil industry, Rupert Murdock, Disney and the rest of the conservative media are abandoning the GOP.


Big business is only concerned with who is in power. Lien their pockets and keep things in their favor.

disrupter
10-19-2007, 09:21 AM
Yes, to them they are just trying to bet on the winning horse.

I say there is a problem with that.

The voters are supposed to be represented, not rich external contributors.

This is the heart of the problem with our political system.

Politicians get bought before even the first vote is cast.

kittens
10-19-2007, 04:15 PM
Yes, to them they are just trying to bet on the winning horse.

I say there is a problem with that.

The voters are supposed to be represented, not rich external contributors.

This is the heart of the problem with our political system.

Politicians get bought before even the first vote is cast.

Yes, amen brother.

Hillary has been selected. I would bet money on it. The GOP will hand the baton to their co-conspirators the Neo-Liberals. Checks and Balances will not be restored under Democratic Party rule. The Patriot Acts and the Military Commissions Act and the Warner Defense Act (the ones that stripped habeus corpus and posse commitatus from us) will remain in effect. The outsourcing of murder and torture to mercenaries will continue. The 9-11 Wars will continue.

Or we could elect Ron Paul. Kucinich would be okay with me too but there's no way he can overcome the DLC's stranglehold on the pathetic Democratic Party and the Left Gatekeepers who marginalize the K man.

disrupter
10-19-2007, 04:25 PM
Maybe the voters can intercept declared inevitability.

As pure inertia, Hillary has it.

Sometimes something unexpected happens & changes things.

She isn't the worst choice for pres, but she is way too close to it.

I am kind of with you on Kucinich or Paul. I think Edwards & perhaps Obama might be a possible alternative. Certainly Paul & Kucinich have actual principle they stick to.