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Frankg
10-17-2007, 08:22 PM
Commentary: An Open Letter to Code Pink

By Richard Lund

While the protest that you staged in front of my office on Wednesday, Sept. 26th, was an exercise of your constitutional rights, the messages that you left behind were insulting, untrue, and ultimately misdirected. Additionally, from the comments quoted in the Berkeley Daily Planet article, it is clear that you have no idea what it is that I do here.

Given that I was unaware of your planned protest, I was unable to contest your claims in person, so I will therefore address them here.


First, a little bit about who I am: I am a Marine captain with over eight years of service as a commissioned officer. I flew transport helicopters for most of my time in the Marine Corps before requesting orders to come here.

Currently, I am the officer selection officer for the northern Bay Area.

My job is to recruit, interview, screen, and evaluate college students and college graduates that show an interest in becoming officers in the Marine Corps. Once they’ve committed to pursuing this program, I help them apply, and if selected, I help them prepare for the rigors of Officer Candidate School and for the challenges of life as a Marine officer.

To be eligible for my programs, you have to be either a full-time college student or a college graduate. I don’t pull anyone out of school, and high school students are not eligible.

I moved my office to Berkeley in December of last year. Previously, it was located in an old federal building in Alameda. That building was due to be torn down and I had to find a new location. I choose our new site because of its proximity to UC Berkeley and to the BART station. Most of the candidates in my program either go to Cal or to one of the schools in San Francisco, the East Bay, or the North Bay. Logistically, the Shattuck Square location was the most convenient for them.

Next, you claim that I lie.

I have never, and will never, lie to any individual that shows an interest in my programs. I am upfront with everything that is involved at every step of the way and I go out of my way to ensure that they know what to expect when they apply.

I tell them that this is not an easy path.

I tell them that leading Marines requires a great deal of self-sacrifice.

I tell them that, should they succeed in their quest to become a Marine officer, they will almost certainly go to Iraq.

In the future, if you plan to attack my integrity, please have the courtesy to explain to me specifically the instances in which you think that I lied.

Next, scrawled across the doorway to my office, you wrote, “Recruiters are Traitors.” Please explain this one. How exactly am I a traitor?

Was I a traitor when I joined the Marine Corps all those years ago? Is every Marine, therefore, a traitor?

Was I a traitor during my two stints in Iraq?

Was I a traitor when I was delivering humanitarian aid to the victims of the tsunami in Sumatra?

Or do you only consider me a traitor while I am on this job? The fact is, recruitment is and always has been a part of maintaining any military organization. In fact, recruitment is a necessity of any large organization.

Large corporations have employees that recruit full-time. Even you, I’m sure, must expend some effort to recruit for Code Pink.

So what, exactly, is it that makes me a traitor?

The fact is this: any independent nation must maintain a military (or be allied with those who do) to ensure the safety and security of its citizens.

Regardless of what your opinions are of the current administration or the current conflict in Iraq, the U.S. military will be needed again in the future. If your counter-recruitment efforts are ultimately successful, who will defend us if we are directly attacked again as we were at Pearl Harbor?

Who would respond if a future terrorist attack targets the Golden Gate Bridge, the BART system, or the UC Berkeley clock tower?

And, to address the most hypocritical stance that your organization takes on its website, where would the peace keeping force come from that you advocate sending to Darfur?

Finally, I believe that your efforts in protesting my office are misdirected. I agree that your stated goals of peace and social justice are worthy ones. War is a terrible thing that should only be undertaken in the most dire, extreme, and necessary of circumstances.

However, war is made by politicians. The conflict in Iraq was ordered by the president and authorized by Congress. They are the ones who have the power to change the policy in Iraq, not members of the military.

We execute policy to the best of our ability and to the best of our human capacity. Protesting in front of my office may be an easy way to get your organization in the headlines of local papers, but it doesn’t further any of your stated goals.


To conclude, I don’t consider myself a “recruiter.” I am a Marine who happens to be on recruiting duty. As such, I conduct myself in accordance with our core values of honor, courage, and commitment.

I will never sacrifice my honor by lying to anyone that walks into my office. I will never forsake the courage that it takes to restrain myself in the face of insulting and libelous labels like liar and traitor.

And, most importantly, I will never waver from my commitment to helping individuals who desire to serve their country as officers in the Marine Corps.
Captain Richard Lund is the United States Marine Corps’ officer selection officer for the northern Bay Area.
http://www.berkeleydaily.org/text/article.cfm?issue=10-02-07&storyID=28139

radioguy
10-17-2007, 10:03 PM
Good find Frank. :thumbsup:

Frankg
10-17-2007, 10:11 PM
Welcome back Jim !

UserName
10-17-2007, 11:26 PM
Do either of you have any commentary of your own, or has the reich-wing been reduced to copy & paste and the practice of attempting to curry favor by the excessive use of compliments, praise, or the like.:D

Frankg
10-17-2007, 11:44 PM
Really not much to say here Username, the recruiter's letter pretty much strips the flesh off of the Code Pinko wackadoodles

My only comment is , Code Pink just demonstrates how the liberal wackadoodles want this country to spread eagle and let the terrorists attack us again , and yea , I know ...that' s what you probably want too ,as you've stated many times in the past on other forums , but that's to be expected because deep down , that is what all liberals long for

schmuck

Jesse Hemingway
10-17-2007, 11:55 PM
Regardless of what your opinions are of the current administration or the current conflict in Iraq, the U.S. military will be needed again in the future. If your counter-recruitment efforts are ultimately successful, who will defend us if we are directly attacked again as we were at Pearl Harbor?

Who would respond if a future terrorist attack targets the Golden Gate Bridge, the BART system, or the UC Berkeley clock tower?

Total mindless r-wing dribble the lunatic r-wing is over.

Well Fang and radioguy could hitch their wagon to the socialist agency you work for who- raw. You can not even prove without reasonable doubt on what happened on 9/11, you sea going bell hop I do not believe a god dam word your crack head and chief says he is a lying bag of shit. Tell you truth jar head I could not respect anyone in the military that follows an order of crack head and chief. :crazzy: :crazzy: :crazzy:

Moby
10-18-2007, 12:28 AM
My only comment is , Code Pink just demonstrates how the liberal wackadoodles want this country to spread eagle and let the terrorists attack us again
I see where you sickness comes from.

Code Pink are a bunch of nuts. An organization that I've never even heard of before.

Yeah, they must represent everyone that didn't vote for Dubya in 2000.

Yeah they're wack but what does that have to do with most people in the world?

UserName
10-18-2007, 01:01 AM
My only comment is , Code Pink just demonstrates how the liberal wackadoodles want this country to spread eagle and let the terrorists attack us again , and yea , I know ...that' s what you probably want too ,as you've stated many times in the past on other forums , but that's to be expected because deep down , that is what all liberals long for


I'm calling you out on this one Frank. Either you point out where and when I have ever "stated many times in the past on other forums" that I want the terrorists to attack us again, or be labeled a skunk and a liar.
Your glaring defamation will not be tolerated any longer and your lies may be acceptable on some reich-wing planet, but not here and not now. Find any quote of mine which states as you claim, or lose any credibility you may have had.

I do not expect you to reply as you have clearly made a fool of yourself, but try to grow a backbone for once.

Bill
10-18-2007, 03:00 AM
Poor recruiters.

Poor code pinks.

I suppose the codepinks think what they are doing is better than sitting at home watching the shattered remains of the free and proud country that used to be the united states.

So sad that's the case.

sucks to be a recruiter, when people think you're a monster.

so sad.

LadyMod at scam.com
10-18-2007, 08:30 AM
To conclude, I don’t consider myself a “recruiter.” I am a Marine who happens to be on recruiting duty. As such, I conduct myself in accordance with our core values of honor, courage, and commitment. I will never sacrifice my honor by lying to anyone that walks into my office. I will never forsake the courage that it takes to restrain myself in the face of insulting and libelous labels like liar and traitor. And, most importantly, I will never waver from my commitment to helping individuals who desire to serve their country as officers in the Marine Corps.

Either this guy is an exception to the rule OR he's lying.

My money is on number 2.

He is a Jarhead after all.

Lady Mod

disrupter
10-18-2007, 02:46 PM
Thank You Code Pink for standing as TRUE PATRIOTS.

Not just some mercenary in a uniform trying to deceive the American People.

Uniforms, Flags & Bibles will not hide the wicked treachery of the right wing traitors.

asroc
10-18-2007, 03:57 PM
Finally somebody manages to take this all-powerful activist group down a peg.

disrupter
10-18-2007, 04:13 PM
i assume you are being cheeky, asroc, but it is the radical fringe that lubricates the shifting of public opinion.

Sort of like Malcolm X making MLK seem like a much preferred alternative.

I of course think Code Pink are more spot on than all the needless war wackos, in uniform or with deferrer or deserter status.

I think moveon.org got Betray Us correct. And while there were pompous howls of outrage in congress, it let a lot of people know they were not alone rejecting all this pro-war cheerleading.

It is like steering in the air, it takes funny eccentric motions to redirect the body politic. Sometimes i think it is sort of quixotical, like electrostatics. Not quite predictable but with enough tries you get a close to correct outcome.

If there is no action, inertia simply plows along a [wrong] path.

events allow for change.
without 'events' there is no change.

perhaps the more attention they gather the more change they allow for. a direct proportion perhaps.

asroc
10-18-2007, 04:16 PM
According to Republicans, anybody to the left of them is the radical fringe which, in spite of that, manages to control all the media.

It's almost as if NBC is owned by Cindy Sheehan, instead of, say, General Electric.

disrupter
10-18-2007, 04:22 PM
And 99% radical fringe is pretty hefty to manage.

Frankg
10-18-2007, 07:42 PM
I'm calling you out on this one Frank. Either you point out where and when I have ever "stated many times in the past on other forums" that I want the terrorists to attack us again, or be labeled a skunk and a liar.
Your glaring defamation will not be tolerated any longer and your lies may be acceptable on some reich-wing planet, but not here and not now. Find any quote of mine which states as you claim, or lose any credibility you may have had.

I do not expect you to reply as you have clearly made a fool of yourself, but try to grow a backbone for once.

Ok I guess your right , I take it back:rolleyes:

disrupter
10-19-2007, 08:14 AM
worms don't have spines.