View Full Version : Bush Torture and the Draft
Jesse Hemingway
09-28-2006, 11:53 AM
We all know the only reason that the United States of America is debating this torture issue is to protect the Bush administration from future legal actions. What the American political system failed to realize that if the Senate and Congress chose to protect the Bush administration and their involvement in possible war crimes. These actions actually make the United States considerable less safer on a variety of issues. The biggest issue nobody has completely thought threw, in these discussion is that, what is completely missed and that is. Can the United States legally ever re-implement the draft without protection of the Geneva conventions? This is the true trade off again to bailout the Bush Administration.
If they change this torture issue to protect bush then wouldn't that effect anyone in the military under the contract they signed when they joined the miltary?
What about NATO will they let the USA in with this new insanity?
Bush Administration +3
United States Constitution -3
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Tickler
09-28-2006, 03:38 PM
The problem with Bushs' new convention is that he wants to replace the catch-all for torture to only include specific acts. In other words if some torture is not on the list, then it will be OK legally.
Also it opens up the convention so every other country can make their own definitions with their own lists of what's OK. Rather than one comprehensive international convention that everybody agreed to, you end up with whatever each country decides is OK, and thus basically removing war crimes from the list.
It makes it difficult for us to look like the good guys to the international community. At a time when we export very little, we depend on other countries to supply us with money and goods I think we need to at least pretend to be the good guys.
Jesse Hemingway
09-28-2006, 09:18 PM
Every Veteran that fought to protect the United States Constitution have been betrayed by this republican lead government on September 28, 2006 lead by cowards of the highest Reich. I am embarrassed as a human being and I do not think I can call myself an American any more. :mad: :mad: :mad:
Tommy
09-29-2006, 03:23 PM
do you ever get the feeling that were are gonna end up nuking somebody in the next year or 2
do you ever get the feeling that were are gonna end up nuking somebody in the next year or 2
I've had that feeling since he announced it in his 2001 Inaugural Speech. He has support of our religious leaders to kill 100,000 and maybe millions of people. Since we're using electronic voting machines that have no paper trail and are produced by his friends there isn't much chance of a vote changing things.
Tommy
09-29-2006, 03:56 PM
lou dobbs did a whole thing on the electronic machines last night
its scary to think about
lou dobbs did a whole thing on the electronic machines last night
its scary to think about
My concern is that Lou Dobbs even needs to mention it.
Computers are a part of our daily lives and we all know that they can be hacked. You use your credit card and you want a receipt. You walk into a store and buy a pack of gum and you want a receipt.
Anyone that approves of electronic voting machines that do not product a paper trail is too stupid or too corrupt to be a productive member of society.
Sooner or later voting will become a matter of public record so the public can verify the votes themselves. Until then, all elections in the USA will be fixed and that's the only reason to use electronic voting. Internet voting will be even worse.
Bill Cosby
11-09-2010, 06:02 PM
We all know the only reason that the United States of America is debating this torture issue is to protect the Bush administration from future legal actions. What the American political system failed to realize that if the Senate and Congress chose to protect the Bush administration and their involvement in possible war crimes. These actions actually make the United States considerable less safer on a variety of issues. The biggest issue nobody has completely thought threw, in these discussion is that, what is completely missed and that is. Can the United States legally ever re-implement the draft without protection of the Geneva conventions? This is the true trade off again to bailout the Bush Administration.
If they change this torture issue to protect bush then wouldn't that effect anyone in the military under the contract they signed when they joined the miltary?
What about NATO will they let the USA in with this new insanity?
Bush Administration +3
United States Constitution -3
:confused: :confused: :confused:
I wonder if in his new book bush the lesser discusses this or other acts he did that came @ a price that will be paid by future generations of Americans...:o
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