Blackwater Leeches get new 92 mill Contract from Pentagon

[disrupter]

Pentagon gives Blackwater new contract
By Ali Gharib

WASHINGTON - A United States-based private security firm received a contract worth up to US$92 million from the Department of Defense amid hard questions about its involvement in two separate violent incidents in Iraq.

"Blackwater [USA] has been a contractor in the past with the department and could certainly be in the future," said the US's top-ranking military officer, General Peter Pace, last week.

The future arrived just two hours later when the Pentagon released
a new list of contracts - Presidential Airways, the aviation unit of parent Blackwater, was awarded the contract to fly Department of Defense passengers and cargo around Central Asia.

The announcement comes as a cloud of suspicion gathers around the "professional military" firm for its actions as a State Department security contractor in Iraq in which at least eight Iraqis and possibly as many as 28 were killed, including a woman and child.http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/IJ02Ak04.html

Blackwater, the US treasury leech, gets new fat rewards, even as it creates anti-american hate with its cavalier lawless atrocities in Iraq.

Why are we supporting this gang of mercenaries?
Wouldn't it be better to have the US military conduct these functions?

Privatizing has become a cover for government corruption.

[Smurf-Herder]

Pentagon gives Blackwater new contract
By Ali Gharib

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/IJ02Ak04.html

Blackwater, the US treasury leech, gets new fat rewards, even as it creates anti-american hate with its cavalier lawless atrocities in Iraq.

Why are we supporting this gang of mercenaries?
Wouldn't it be better to have the US military conduct these functions?

Privatizing has become a cover for government corruption.

The State Department refuses to use the military. It hampers the freedom to travel as they wish. And it's not just Blackwater. My ex's boyfriend was a contractor. And he says Abu Ghraib was primarily the fault of two security advisors from CACI who were influencing the guards. If you dig deep, you'll find discrete references to them. Not that all contractors are bad. But you need security people with military experience. And some of those former military guys are bad apples. Blackwater has fired 122 people for violations.

[Peregrine]

Pentagon gives Blackwater new contract
By Ali Gharib

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/IJ02Ak04.html

Blackwater, the US treasury leech, gets new fat rewards, even as it creates anti-american hate with its cavalier lawless atrocities in Iraq.

Why are we supporting this gang of mercenaries?
Wouldn't it be better to have the US military conduct these functions?

Privatizing has become a cover for government corruption.

your quess is as good as mine....I think using military would have been the right way to go...can't pass judgement on blackwater until I have all the info. info so far does not sound good.

[disrupter]

The Bush administration demanded that the Iraqi government give mercenary contractors complete legal impunity,

even when they commit attrocities.

human nature makes that an open invitation to commit lawless horrors.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

[Linkster]

Fortunately that changed this year - the contractors are under the UCMJ now

[disrupter]

But we supposedly want the IRAQI GOVERNMENT to stand up,
yet we deny them the right to even question what OUR foreign contractors do in THEIR nation.

Do you see the fallacy of logic there?
the hypocrisy
the absurd, counter productive double standard.

How can the claim sovereignty when WE DENY them sovereignty?

The whole thing is an imperialist delusion NOT any kind of gift of government or democracy,

Bush & the neocons are exposed as FRAUDS,
liars, cheats & thieves.

[Smurf-Herder]

But we supposedly want the IRAQI GOVERNMENT to stand up,
yet we deny them the right to even question what OUR foreign contractors do in THEIR nation.

Do you see the fallacy of logic there?
the hypocrisy
the absurd, counter productive double standard.

How can the claim sovereignty when WE DENY them sovereignty?

The whole thing is an imperialist delusion NOT any kind of gift of government or democracy,

Bush & the neocons are exposed as FRAUDS,
liars, cheats & thieves.


If you say so :rant:

[Moby]

Didn't Cheney commission Halliburton to produce reports stating that we should cut the size of our military and out source most of it.

This has been going on for a generation now. The only difference is that some people blame Clinton for it but if I'm not mistaken it was Cheney's recommendations. Of course, we didn't know that Cheney was going to cash in on his own recommendations.

[Smurf-Herder]

Didn't Cheney commission Halliburton to produce reports stating that we should cut the size of our military and out source most of it.

This has been going on for a generation now. The only difference is that some people blame Clinton for it but if I'm not mistaken it was Cheney's recommendations. Of course, we didn't know that Cheney was going to cash in on his own recommendations.

Ya got a link to an unbiased source on that?

I don't believe Halliburton does that kind of evaluation work.

[Linkster]

It was actually done by Brown and Root - a subsidiary of Haliburton in 1992 and yes it was awarded the contract by Cheney when he was head of the Defense Dept - of course he then went to work for them after he left office to become their CEO (Haliburtons that is)

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2000/08/cheney.html
I did find a business week reprint that had the same info but I figured this is unbiased enough and the BW article went in to all of the other stuff that wasnt very complimentary of Cheney so I figured I better not

[Smurf-Herder]

It was actually done by Brown and Root - a subsidiary of Haliburton in 1992 and yes it was awarded the contract by Cheney when he was head of the Defense Dept - of course he then went to work for them after he left office to become their CEO (Haliburtons that is)

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2000/08/cheney.html
I did find a business week reprint that had the same info but I figured this is unbiased enough and the BW article went in to all of the other stuff that wasnt very complimentary of Cheney so I figured I better not

Not that I believe Mother Jones is unbiased, but I do see your point. And it is well taken. But what Cheney does, doesn't happen in a vacuum. It can't be said that Clinton had no control over the decrease in size of the military. IMO, both sides are to blame for the present situation of the size of the military; not having the foresight to have an army large enough to deal with future conflicts and contingencies.

[Linkster]

Actually I believe that the pentagon and Clinton went to congress to try to increase the size of the military and the republicans turned them down - Clinton submitted a huge defense budget ( I believe it was two years before he left office) based on what the pentagon asked for - and congressional republicans basiclly told him to stuff it - so I guess he went back to the oval office and did :thumbsup:

[Smurf-Herder]

Actually I believe that the pentagon and Clinton went to congress to try to increase the size of the military and the republicans turned them down - Clinton submitted a huge defense budget ( I believe it was two years before he left office) based on what the pentagon asked for - and congressional republicans basiclly told him to stuff it - so I guess he went back to the oval office and did :thumbsup:

Wow!

I looked it up and you're right - $124 billion. The Rebublicans tried to say it was his attempt to deflect from the impeachment. But I don't really buy that. They were as bad against Clinton as the Dems are against Bush. Their domestic political concerns blinded them to national security concerns.

[Moby]

Ya got a link to an unbiased source on that?

I don't believe Halliburton does that kind of evaluation work.
You mean to tell me that you voted for this guy twice without knowing his background? I see that all over the south and I can't believe that people will spend week after week talking about American Idol and who they're going to vote for but didn't spend a couple of hours doing unbiased research on the candidates before hiring them.

[Smurf-Herder]

You mean to tell me that you voted for this guy twice without knowing his background? I see that all over the south and I can't believe that people will spend week after week talking about American Idol and who they're going to vote for but didn't spend a couple of hours doing unbiased research on the candidates before hiring them.

I never voted for Bush.

[LadyMod at scam.com]

I never voted for Bush.


OH there is hope for you yet.


:hi:

[LadyMod at scam.com]

:angel: :angel: You mean to tell me that you voted for this guy twice without knowing his background? I see that all over the south and I can't believe that people will spend week after week talking about American Idol and who they're going to vote for but didn't spend a couple of hours doing unbiased research on the candidates before hiring them.

Do you honestly think that people in the north are any more diligent about looking up their candidates than people in the south? They only want to believe the promises and the smear campaigns. Very few actually verify any of it. Which is why is such a clusterfuck in Washington.

Come on! The voters thought voting Democrat was going to curb George Bush in Iraq. Did that happen? Absolutely not. And it wasn't going to either.

Who won American Idol anyway? Some kid wasn't it?

And Paris Hilton? What's her scrawny ass up to these days? :angel:

[Smurf-Herder]

OH there is hope for you yet.


:hi:

I haven't voted since Reagan.

[Moby]

:angel: :angel:

Do you honestly think that people in the north are any more diligent about looking up their candidates than people in the south? They only want to believe the promises and the smear campaigns. Very few actually verify any of it. Which is why is such a clusterfuck in Washington.

Come on! The voters thought voting Democrat was going to curb George Bush in Iraq. Did that happen? Absolutely not. And it wasn't going to either.

Who won American Idol anyway? Some kid wasn't it?

And Paris Hilton? What's her scrawny ass up to these days? :angel:
I lived most of my life inside the beltway. I was in Alexandria, VA and heard and felt the explosion on 9/11. I've lived in Minnesota, The Eastern Shore and have traveled to every state in the Continental USA (although I never left the airport in Utah and Washington State).

Even in Washington, DC you would find people that mindlessly repeat what they here from Fox News or whoever. The difference is that in DC, MD, MN and most places up north those people dig ditches, work security jobs and clean up after the rest. They're not the well educated folks. In South Carolina I find that it's doctors, lawyers and school teachers.

It's very scary in The South.

I know, I know, I'm being prejudice and making large generalizations and I apologies. It's just that down here I haven't met a single supporter of the administration that knows the facts.

[disrupter]

no one had to vote for bush,

the machines voted for them.

[Linkster]

I see the House voted today to put contractors in Iraq under US Law by a huge majority - should pretty much sail through the senate if they take it up