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radioguy
09-30-2007, 06:32 AM
The Islamist Head Fake
INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY
Posted 9/28/2007

Homeland Security: When dealing with Muslim leaders, Washington should borrow a page from Ronald Reagan's Soviet playbook: Trust, but verify. Many aim to deceive us, court evidence shows. It's now believed that several leaders of the Muslim establishment in America last decade conspired to infiltrate the U.S. political system, change Middle East policy and gradually Islamize America. At the same time, they hatched a plot to fund overseas terrorists.

Of course, they couldn't do this out in the open. So they set up benign-sounding nonprofits and charities to "camouflage" their traitorous activities, say U.S. prosecutors who cite wiretap transcripts and other documents uncovered in a criminal probe of the Holy Land Foundation, the largest Muslim charity in America.

During a secret meeting at a Philadelphia hotel, the charity's president and other prominent Muslim leaders were recorded allegedly plotting ways to disguise payments to Hamas terrorists as charity.

"I swear by Allah that war is deception," said Shukri Abu-Baker, now on trial in the federal terror-funding case. "We are fighting our enemy with a kind heart. . . . Deceive, camouflage, pretend that you're leaving while you're walking that way. Deceive your enemy."

Another participant at the Hamas summit was the founder of the Council on American Islamic-Relations, or CAIR, the largest Muslim civil-rights group in the country and an unindicted co-conspirator in the terror-funding case.

Adding to Abu-Baker's point, Omar Ahmad compared the deception needed to fool the infidels with the head fake in basketball. "He makes a player believe that he is doing this while he does something else," Ahmad said. "I agree with you. . . . Politics is a completion of war."

The Islamist head fake has worked all too well over the past decade. Blind acceptance and validation of Muslim leaders with questionable loyalties hardly missed a beat in Washington even after 9/11.

Many were invited to the White House and Congress. The head of the FBI spoke at their conferences, calling them "mainstream" and "moderate." Many naive officials still confer legitimacy on them.

But what Muslim leaders tell us and what they tell Muslim audiences are often two entirely different things. The deception is astonishing. They've really played us for suckers.

Here are just a few examples:

Sami Al-Arian: The popular and respected Muslim activist was a White House guest of both presidents Clinton and Bush. He assured his hosts he was both peace-loving and patriotic. "I am a very moderate Muslim person," he said. "I also condemn violence in all its forms."

All the while, Al-Arian was secretly running a U.S. beachhead for Palestinian terrorists. In a speech at a Cleveland mosque, he once thundered: "Let's damn America, let's damn Israel, let's damn their allies until death."

He's now a convicted terrorist.

Abdurahman Alamoudi: This pillar of the Muslim community also went from the White House to the Big House. But not before developing the Pentagon's Muslim chaplain corps, and acting as a goodwill ambassador for the State Department.

He, too, strongly denounced terror. "We are against all forms of terrorism," he claimed. "Our religion is against terrorism."

Privately, however, he raised major funds for al-Qaida and was caught on tape grumbling that Osama bin Laden hadn't killed enough Americans in the U.S. embassy bombings.

Also, at a Muslim conference, he was recorded saying the following:

"Muslims sooner or later will be the moral leadership of America. It depends on me and you. Either we do it now or we do it after a hundred years, but this country will become a Muslim country. And I think if we are outside this country, we can say, 'Oh, Allah, destroy America.' But once we are here, our mission in this country is to change it."

Ali Al-Timimi: A noted imam and native Washingtonian, he also put on a moderate face in public while secretly plotting against us. The internationally known Muslim scholar had government clearance — even worked with a former White House chief of staff — and was invited to speak on Islam to the U.S. military.

Publicly, the imam denounced Islamic violence. "My position against terrorism and Muslim-inspired violence against innocent people is well known by Muslims," he said.

But privately, a darker picture emerged. Five days after the 9/11 attacks, he called them "legitimate" and rallied young Muslim men at his mosque to carry out more "holy war" and "violent jihad."

Al-Timimi even cheered the Columbia space shuttle disaster, calling it a "good omen" for Muslims because it was a blow to their "greatest enemy." He also said the U.S. "should be destroyed."

This high-profile moderate is also now behind bars, for soliciting terror and treason.

What other Muslim leaders are betraying our trust? Who else is "camouflaging" their radical beliefs and agenda with smiles and soft rhetoric?

To reach out to the Muslim community, we must deal with its leaders. But based on their proven track record of dissembling, we can no longer go on blindly trusting them.

http://www.investors.com/editorial/editorialcontent.asp?secid=1501&status=article&id=275871309181046


Any comments here?

What do you all think about CAIR now?

Linkster
09-30-2007, 08:27 AM
Ive been trying to point out for years that this type of covorting was unacceptable - and its gotten worse over the last 20 years. From allowing Saddam to attend school at Fort Huachuca, Arizona, to allowing bin Laden to tour our military bases, to Bush Sr running a business that included the bin Laden family and the two faced Saudi first family.

I dont know anything about cair - and dont really "care" - any of these people that we know (and with the intelligence we really have in our CIA we do know these things) support any kind of terrorism - should never be coddled by anyone in the government - unfortunately this has been a pattern and it needs to stop. And quite honestly, people can make excuses for doing it stating the security of the US, but it looks to me like they dont have a clue how to ensure the security of our country - and its getting worse every day.

radioguy
09-30-2007, 09:02 AM
What in the hell are you talking about Linkster?

Is this all just a big joke to you? This is a DEADLY serious issue, and all you do is use it to bash the Bush family and our government. :banghead:

Linkster
09-30-2007, 09:10 AM
Im not making a joke - you dont think that there is any problem with the Bush family supporting and doing business with the very people who not only have been attacking us for years, but then turn it around and act like they have no idea what anyone is talking about.
You are correct - this is deadly serious - and I dont care who it takes to bash if you think thats what Im doing - and no its not our whole government - its just that part of it within the CIA inner circle that produces this problem. Quite honestly I would care if it were Clinton, Reagan, Bush or any other leader - to me I just see things as being treasonous to coddle these terrorists

radioguy
09-30-2007, 09:58 AM
No, your instead turned this story into an excuse to attack republicans, namely, the Bush family.

Could you please point out where in this article, that the bullshit you posted is?

I'll tell you the reason this crap is allowed to happen, it's because of a liberal pet peeve called "Political correctness". More specifically, they refuse to allow the government to do anything about this kind of shit.

They oppose the NSA program...
They oppose any kind of profiling...
They won't allow the government to specifically target Muslim's for surveillance in the US, because they say it's racial or religious discrimination...
The liberals elect a Muslim into congress in Minnesota, knowing that he has close ties to CAIR...

The liberals in America won't stand for the government doing what is necessary to protect us from terrorists, and terrorist sympathizers like the ones in the article.

That's what you should be bitching about, not the phony bologna crap you wrote before.

Linkster
09-30-2007, 12:18 PM
I totally agree that political correctness allows most of this - as I also agreet hat racial profiling should be done - and I also think that we should have gone into Iraq with 500,000 troops and been done with it if we were going to use that as an attack on terrorists - the problem here is that everybody is pussyfooting around and doing NOTHING to take care of the real terrorist threat - and part of it is because it will expose the inconsistencies that have occurred in this country for over 20 years - supporting terrorists when we need them to go against someone else we dont like - but then when those same terrorists attack us - we dont go full force after them - we sit around looking for something else to play political games with

And I think its time for it all to stop - unfortunately the only way that it is going to is to get someone in office that knows militarily how to really go after terrorist organizations - and doesnt have anything in their past to hide
politically

I get so sick of hear apologists for Bush talk about the "real" problem being that we need to keep the war going on the same level - or maybe a little extra troops here and there - and then they always end it with some stupid statement like - "so that we preserve Bush's legacy" - we are killing fucking kids so that someone can preserve their place in history - give me a break

All of the politicians do this - I dont care if they are liberal, conservative or middle - they are playing frigging games with the security of the US and killing children (Im kinda old so I look at them as children) when we have enough troops sitting on their ass in the US and at bases around the world to go in - wipe out every terrorist over a 1 year period - let the parties in Iraq figure out their government - and at the end of the year - pull out - and go to the other 60 countries that are supporting terrorists financially and physically - in my mind a good place to start would be Pakistan.
At the same time - mobilize the national guard from a few states - go down to the mexican border and up to the canadian border and build simple structures and actually stop the flow of anyone into this country - then go down to the docks and open every frigging container coming in - and get serious about really fighting terrorism

Im sorry but after watching these CIA and FBI idiots that cant talk to one another fumble like they did the last time - and politicians that ignore them anyway - from congress to the president - either someone is going to have to kick them in the head - or basically the US is dead already

Linkster
09-30-2007, 12:20 PM
BTW - Im not arguing with you on the NSA thing as its been going on for 30 years - its only become an issue because the politicians had to write a law and Bush had to go out and make public what was already happening and had been happening for years - as far as Im concerned - they ought to be arrested for treason for leaking anything for their political and stature gain