Fox News - Our Generals are Betraying our Soldiers

[Linkster]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,298203,00.html

"These poor excuse for officers do not deserve the soldiers they dare claim they lead. We as a nation had better go out and find us another Marshall, who at the beginning of World War II fired hundreds of senior officers because they were not cutting it."

[disrupter]

& Condie Rice & Howard Krongard of the State Department are covering up for thieves that are being called 'contractors'

Blood for money,
the neocon agenda.

clarification: OTHER people's blood for THEIR money

just fucking sick.

[Bill]

fired hundreds of senior officers because they were not cutting it."

that would be cool.

cheer the troops right up.

[disrupter]

soldiers & civilians & national infrastructure are all being mowed down & blown up by an evil race to greed. Ideals, civil rights & democracy are being thrown on the raging inferno too. Every good thing about America is being trashed.

More personally they are looting the US treasury, & Robbing your children to do it.

ARE YOU GOING TO PUT A STOP TO IT?

[radioguy]

That title is Bullshit you asshat. You tried to imply falsely that FOX news as an organization, made that statement, and they didn't. It's just an opinion piece written by a military analyst and never appeared on the air. The title of that article is "Top Military Officials are a Disgrace to Those They Lead" and it was written by "Colonel David Hunt", not FOX NEWS!

As for the article itself, it think it has merit. But since you only posted it to bash FOX news, I think I'll pass.

[disrupter]

In other words an informed military analyst's report was covered up & NOT broadcast by FOX
as their corporate masters covered up the Israeli-911 connection reports they did after 911?

Now radioguy won't discuss it even though he says it has merit, because he is too upset about dissing FOX?

Obviously FOX is more important to him than the fact generals are selling soldier's lives for blood money & corruption.

Sounds like a fair weather patriot to me.

[radioguy]

I don't like dishonesty and the title of this thread was not to promote this article for discussion, it was to launch a false attack against the only TV news organization that doesn't have a liberal agenda.

[Bobs.Lil.Girl]

It looked to me like the title was saying that Fox News was reporting that our generals are betraying our soldiers.


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[radioguy]

It looked to me like the title was saying that Fox News was reporting that our generals are betraying our soldiers.


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EXACTLY!!!

This was an opinion piece that was done by a military analysts on their website, not an on-air news story done by a reporter on TV.

Thank you

[Bobs.Lil.Girl]

EXACTLY!!!

This was an opinion piece that was done by a military analysts on their website, not an on-air news story done by a reporter on TV.

Thank you


So, why is this less worthy to discuss than your topic about Edwards being racist? Which was only your opinion and not reported?

[disrupter]

FOX COVERED UP ITS OWN STORIES ABOUT THE ISRAELI 911 CONNECTION!

It may not have a liberal agenda,

BUT IT HAS A DISHONEST AGENDA.

well that answers it folks, radioguy wants to listen to reactionary LIES.
it ain't about truth with him, it is about pleasing lies.

[asroc]

......snore

[disrupter]

asroc is certainly contributing a wealth of intellectual riches to the forum.

[Independent Harry]

That title is Bullshit you asshat. You tried to imply falsely that FOX news as an organization, made that statement, and they didn't. It's just an opinion piece written by a military analyst and never appeared on the air. The title of that article is "Top Military Officials are a Disgrace to Those They Lead" and it was written by "Colonel David Hunt", not FOX NEWS!

As for the article itself, it think it has merit. But since you only posted it to bash FOX news, I think I'll pass.

You blame other News Media for there opinion pieces written by liberals and hold them responsible. Why not Faux news as well?

[Smurf-Herder]

FOX COVERED UP ITS OWN STORIES ABOUT THE ISRAELI 911 CONNECTION!



I thought it was the US Military Industrial Complex, or was it the CIA?

Personally, I think it was the Girl Scouts :lmao2:

[disrupter]

Israelis committed acts of terrorism on 911 & were caught by New York's finest.
Blew up a van on manhattan,
caught driving a truckload of explosives across the George Washington bridge.

Add to that Israeli art students filming, laughing, dancing, cheering as the WTC towers collapsed from the shores of New Jersey.

The NSA is pretty notorious for being the inside player, & getting the CIA [FBI? others?] to do the actual dirty scut work.

The israelis have an interest in sucking the US into the middle east.
perhaps the NSA farmed the actual project out to them, supplying them with needed resources.

you are a girl scout if you can't see through the deceptions.

[LadyMod at scam.com]

......snore

Dish scam because of the cliques. Post another website that's supposedly better, And when here don't even participate in the threads here?

Are you done being boring yet?

http://www.debatepolitics.com is way, way better.

[disrupter]

that is sick frankg:
"If my president or the american military deliberately killed women & children then they probably deserved it"

You are no kind of American, you are a traitor to all American ideals & to America's future.

[Frankg]

Yea I said because its true , what, you think woman and children can't be terrorists ? , can't fire an AK47 ? , don't know how to use C4 ?


It is not, nor has it ever been US Military policy to randomly kill innocent civilians

[LadyMod at scam.com]

Yea I said because its true , what, you think woman and children can't be terrorists ? , can't fire an AK47 ? , don't know how to use C4 ?

It is not, nor has it ever been US Military policy to randomly kill innocent civilians

You don't know much then.

http://mindprod.com/politics/iraqwarpix.html#IRAQWARPIX

The pentagon has been shutting down websites that show pictures and assassinating the newspeople that create them. I would advise collecting them and passing them around by email, since that is harder for the Pentagon to stop. The Daily Mirror in Britain bravely left one of their stories in place all XXed out instead of just removing it in to Orwellian oblivioun when censored.

There are suprisingly few pictures of the damage or the casualties of Gulf War I or the sanction bombings. Bush Sr. exercised strict censorship. Please pass on URLs of any photos that speak to the heart.

My opponents argue that I can't prove precisely who was responsible for the carnage in any individual photo. My intent is not a criminal investigation of each incident but to show you just how horrible war in general is. It is no secret the USA has spent $300 billion on waging its war in Iraq, that it attacked unprovoked under false pretences and that it used weapons banned by the U.N., including napalm, cluster bombs, depleted uranium and white phosphorus. It also uses torture, rape, and attack dogs on children. The pictures on and linked to by my website don't come even close to depicting the true hell president Bush has created in his bid to takeover Iraq's oil.

You might wonder why there are not more pictures of American casualties. There are four reason for this:

The US military heavily censors photos of US casualties.

There are far fewer US casualties than Iraqi.

US soldiers like to photograph dead Iraqis much as they photograph hunting trophies. Iraqis are not as well supplied with cameras.

I don't really give a fig personally about US soldiers who die. Those US soldiers voluntarily chose the profession of hired killers. They kill for thrills and money, not because they are defending their country. I care about civilians, especially children, of any nationality or religion. I realise, however, that most Americans are infected with racism and nationalism and care only about American deaths and then only white ones, so I will gladly post any photos you can find of US casualties to pound home the cost of this war in suffering to Americans too.


http://mindprod.com/image/restricted/soldierarm.jpg
American Soldier showing a severed Iraqi arm hung in a mosque to terrorise the Iraqi resistance.


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Iraqi man beheaded with gunfire at an American checkpoint.


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Both Americans and Iraqis do beheadings using bombs.

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An Iraqi boy reacts after seeing his sister and both of his parents killed in the car, in Ramadi, 100 kilometers west of Baghdad, 2005-01-05. Four Iraqi civilians were killed and two others were injured when U.S. soldiers opened fire.

[LadyMod at scam.com]

It doesn't stop there:

Dust from American depleted uranium used to give extra heft to bullets is causing birth defects both in Iraqi babies and in babies fathered by American soldiers. It causes permanent genetic damage for generations to come. These pictures are from earlier DU (or possibly other teratogen) damage. The damage from the Iraq war is yet to come.


http://mindprod.com/image/restricted/iraqdubaby.jpg

http://mindprod.com/image/restricted/iraqdubaby3.jpg


Baby born to Gulf War Vet:
http://mindprod.com/image/restricted/gulfvetdubaby.jpg

http://mindprod.com/image/restricted/iraqduamericanchild.jpg

[LadyMod at scam.com]

http://mindprod.com/image/restricted/cookediraqi.jpg

Above is one of the photos US soldiers traded for pornography. They called it Cooked Iraqi. They are displaying an Iraqi they killed and fried as if the corpse were a trophy fish.


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This is what you endorse and support Neocon.


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Protestor at rally to stop the Iraq war, shot by Oakland Police officers, who fired wooden pellets at protesters on 2003-04-09.



http://mindprod.com/image/people/watada.jpg

Lt. Erhen Watada, 29 year old Lieutenant at Fort Lewis refuses to fight in Iraq because the war is illegal. To do so would make him a war criminal, the same as all the American soldiers serving in Iraq who mindlessly followed orders like so many Nazi sheep and by fighting an aggressive war the UN declared illegal. Recall the excuse “Just following orders” did not cut it at Nurmemberg. The Nazis were hanged simply for waging an agressive war, which is also the case in Iraq since the USA attacked unprovoked using forged excuses. When I read the viewer feedback on the FOX Q13 (http://q13.trb.com/kcpq-lieutenantwatada-messageboard,0,5932185,comments.graffitiboard) website, I was horrified to discover the majority of responders believe that a soldier should follow orders even when they are illegal.



http://mindprod.com/image/people/bushhalo.jpg

HE's NOT worth it.

[LadyMod at scam.com]

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Pfc. Steven Green,
accused rapist and murderer

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Sgt. Paul Cortez,
accused rapist and murderer

Six US soldiers have been charged with gang raping (http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2006-07-09-rape-investigation_x.htm) a 14 year old Iraqi girl then murdering (http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2006-08-07-iraqi-case_x.htm) her, and her 5-year old sister and her parents. Accused include Pcf. Steven Green of Midland Texas, Spc. James Barker, Sgt. Paul Cortez, Pfc. Jesse Spielman, Pfc. Bryan Howard and Sgt. Anthony Yribe. If these men are convicted, it would be fitting if they were treated for the rest of their lives as dangerous sex offenders and driven out of every town they try to live.
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Col. Michael Steele ordered (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14166052/)his soldiers to “kill all military age males”.

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Mark 77 Incendiary bombs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_77_bomb) All incendiaries have been banned by the UN since 1980. : source (http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/military/20030805-9999_1n5bomb.html). The department of defence has admitted to using MK-77 in Iraq. MK-77 is just napalm in canisters (http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/dumb/mk77.htm).

American soldiers used napalm (http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=14920109&method=full&siteid=106694&headline=fallujah-napalmed-name_page.html)in the attack on Fallujah. Napalm has been banned by the UN since 1980. The Iraqi government made this complaint (http://www.uruknet.info/?p=10157&hd=0&size=1&l=x)against the USA.


mustard gas (http://politicalaffairs.net/article/articleview/744/1/80/): even Hitler refused to use this.

nerve gas (http://politicalaffairs.net/article/articleview/744/1/80/): even Hitler refused to use this. On 2005-03-01, Dr. Khalid ash-Shaykhli of Iraq's Ministry of Health made the revelation at a Baghdad press conference (http://www.socialistworker.org/2005-1/535/535_05_Torture.shtml): U.S. forces used mustard gas, nerve gas and other burning chemical weapons against Iraqi civilians in their November assault on the city of Falluja.

According to the prestigious medical journal Lancet, (http://www.thelancet.com/journal/vol364/iss9445/full/llan.364.9445.early_online_publication.31137.1) American soldiers killed over 100,000 civilians, most of them children.


U.S. soldiers held Iraqi women hostages (http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=8103383) in order to pressure (http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=8093558) male relatives to surrender.

Bush bombed the water treatment plant in Basra in order to kill children. This is a repeat of this same Geneva convention violation during the sanction bombings. This is deeply shameful thing to do because it targets children specifically. They die faster from lack of water and they die more quickly from drinking polluted water. This is a particularly grievous war crime.


http://mindprod.com/image/restricted/iraqstarve.jpg



There are casualties in every kind of war frankie, but don't "sugar coat" and wrap the atrocities the U.S. has brought to Iraq in the false cloak of "patriotism" and "protecting Americans" because that is nothing but bullshit.


Lady Mod

[Moby]

That title is Bullshit you asshat. You tried to imply falsely that FOX news as an organization, made that statement, and they didn't. It's just an opinion piece written by a military analyst and never appeared on the air. The title of that article is "Top Military Officials are a Disgrace to Those They Lead" and it was written by "Colonel David Hunt", not FOX NEWS!

As for the article itself, it think it has merit. But since you only posted it to bash FOX news, I think I'll pass.
How many hours, days and weeks has Fox News spent bashing KOS because after 18,000,000 people visited the site they found 5 or 6 outrages comments?

You can't have it both ways.

[radioguy]

We get it you bitch!

You not only hate Jews and republicans, you also hate America. Why else would you dedicate so many post to posting that bullshit.

You are a traitor!

GET THE HELL OUT OF MY COUNTRY YOU RACIST BITCH!

[LadyMod at scam.com]

We get it you bitch!

You not only hate Jews and republicans, you also hate America. Why else would you dedicate so many post to posting that bullshit.

You are a traitor!

GET THE HELL OUT OF MY COUNTRY YOU RACIST BITCH!


LOL. I don't hate jews and there is not one hateful thing in my posts. Just the truth.

The truth may hurt Rapunzel, but it's still the truth. We have done horrible things too. And for no better reasons than the insurgets have.

That was my point.

The only traitors here are you and frankie for blindly condonning an administrations bad behavior to allow such atrocities in the name of freedom and democracy.

How about you leaving MY country, traitor....


Lady Mod

[radioguy]

You are a sick racist lady mod...

Only a sick person that spent days defending a man who called for the genocide of all the Jews in Israel, who spend so much time collecting anti-American propaganda.

You are a traitor, a racist, and chicken shit moderator that bans anyone who hurts her wittle feewings.

You are a pathetic, hateful windbag... Go to hell you racist witch!

[Frankg]

Ladymod

You show us all these pictures of mutilated "innocent" civilians yet you provide no proof that Americans are responsible for all those birth defects, for all those burnt body parts , for those beheadings ,which is why I still say

They probably deserved it

[LadyMod at scam.com]

You are a sick racist lady mod...

Only a sick person that spent days defending a man who called for the genocide of all the Jews in Israel, who spend so much time collecting anti-American propaganda.

You are a traitor, a racist, and chicken shit moderator that bans anyone who hurts her wittle feewings.

You are a pathetic, hateful windbag... Go to hell you racist witch!


ROFLMAO! How pathetic.

Come on Rapunzel. Can't debate the truth here? Got to resort to personal attacks and hysterical rantings.

I'm the windbag? Ever read your own posts? Rarely if ever, have they had any substance in them.

Come on NeoCON. Refute the truth here. Show us how well you debate.


We're waiting. OR are you too chicken to do anything but curse and call names?


Lady Mod

[LadyMod at scam.com]

Ladymod

You show us all these pictures of mutilated "innocent" civilians yet you provide no proof that Americans are responsible for all those birth defects, for all those burnt body parts , for those beheadings ,which is why I still say

They probably deserved it

Then I guess these American soldiers deserved it too?


http://mindprod.com/image/restricted/iraqmissingface.jpg
American soldier with face blown off.



http://mindprod.com/image/restricted/iraqbodyhole.jpg
Dead American soldier with hole in side of body.


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http://mindprod.com/image/restricted/iraqburntcorpse.jpg
Burned corpse of American mercenary

OF course they did right? Of course I have NO PROOF that Insurgents did it but what the hell? You like the gory pictures.

[Smurf-Herder]

mustard gas (http://politicalaffairs.net/article/articleview/744/1/80/): even Hitler refused to use this.

nerve gas (http://politicalaffairs.net/article/articleview/744/1/80/): even Hitler refused to use this. On 2005-03-01, Dr. Khalid ash-Shaykhli of Iraq's Ministry of Health made the revelation at a Baghdad press conference (http://www.socialistworker.org/2005-1/535/535_05_Torture.shtml): U.S. forces used mustard gas, nerve gas and other burning chemical weapons against Iraqi civilians in their November assault on the city of Falluja.

According to the prestigious medical journal Lancet, (http://www.thelancet.com/journal/vol364/iss9445/full/llan.364.9445.early_online_publication.31137.1) American soldiers killed over 100,000 civilians, most of them children.


U.S. soldiers held Iraqi women hostages (http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=8103383) in order to pressure (http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=8093558) male relatives to surrender.



Hey Ilsa, ya know some of those links don't work?

And the ones that do, half of them lead to Marxist and Socialist Worker websites.

So, are you a marxist or a socialist?

[LadyMod at scam.com]

Hey Ilsa, ya know some of those links don't work?

And the ones that do, half of them lead to Marxist and Socialist Worker websites.

So, are you a marxist or a socialist?

They are just references. It's rather ignorant to call someone a marxist or socialist just because links point to sites that still have the stories up.


Do you think America is the ONLY place with newspapers?


:disbelief:

[radioguy]

You want truth?

The truth is , you ban anyone who questions you. You have backed up and protected a proven racist that posts hate against Jews. You don't ban him, even though every single response he has ever made, is a littered with vile personal attacks.

You are a racist, that protects a man that posts hate material from the most racist websites on the internet, and bans anyone who dares to bring that fact to light.

You are a sorry excuse for a human being and you should do every American a favor and get the fuck out!

[LadyMod at scam.com]

You want truth?

The truth is , you ban anyone who questions you. You have backed up and protected a proven racist that posts hate against Jews. You don't ban him, even though every single response he has ever made, is a littered with vile personal attacks.

You are a racist, that protects a man that posts hate material from the most racist websites on the internet, and bans anyone who dares to bring that fact to light.

You are a sorry excuse for a human being and you should do every American a favor and get the fuck out!

LOL, still can't debate the fact can you? Got to whine and wimper over self-centered woes.

What an ego.

Come on Rapunzel, debate the topic. We aren't on scam, I can't ban you here remember?

Show us what you got Cupcake. I'll be back later to see if you found your balls.



LOL

[Smurf-Herder]

They are just references. It's rather ignorant to call someone a marxist or socialist just because links point to sites that still have the stories up.


Do you think America is the ONLY place with newspapers?


:disbelief:

Well, you normally won't be seeing me post links to sites that are as obviously biased.

And where you get your news defines your slant.

[radioguy]

Hey Ilsa, ya know some of those links don't work?

And the ones that do, half of them lead to Marxist and Socialist Worker websites.

So, are you a marxist or a socialist?


Yes, she is... She gets her material from scam's #1 racist, who happens to be her secret lover.

He is a communist that believes that all the Jews in Israel should be exterminated, a position she will back him to the hilt on.

When it comes to lady mod, there's a simple rule of thumb.

If its racist, Marxist, communists or anti-American, you can count on her supporting it.

[LadyMod at scam.com]

Well, you normally won't be seeing me post links to sites that are as obviously biased.

And where you get your news defines your slant.


Bully for you. Do you want a medal?


I didn't read any rules here that state we only post things that are non-biased. And just about every link offered even by the moderators will more or less define their slant.

So it must be OK to do so.

[LadyMod at scam.com]

Yes, she is... She gets her material from scam's #1 racist, who happens to be her secret lover.

He is a communist that believes that all the Jews in Israel should be exterminated, a position she will back him to the hilt on.

When it comes to lady mod, there's a simple rule of thumb.

If its racist, Marxist, communists or anti-American, you can count on her supporting it.


I'm quite capable of getting my own stuff. I don't need dchristie's help. And I've been married for over 30 years Grim, you are pretty sick to make an inference that isn't true and could possibly hurt my marriage. OH, that would make it slander and I could take you to court over it.


Hmmmmm. Keep that in mind Cupcake if my husband ever decides to divorce me. I'll be coming hunting for you.


Lady Mod

[Smurf-Herder]

Yes, she is... She gets her material from scam's #1 racist, who happens to be her secret lover.

He is a communist that believes that all the Jews in Israel should be exterminated, a position she will back him to the hilt on.

When it comes to lady mod, there's a simple rule of thumb.

If its racist, Marxist, communists or anti-American, you can count on her supporting it.

So she's a Commie Babe?

Damn, they don't wear tight corsets with stiletto heels like Nazi prison camp babes. Now you've blown my image of her as a dominatrix. :lmao2:

[radioguy]

LOL, still can't debate the fact can you?

Sure I can

You are a racist... That is a fact
You protect a man that called for the genocide of all the Jews in Israel.
You baned me when I called you a racist, because you can't handle the truth.
You banned frank for disagreeing with you decision.
You deleted franks post because you no more believe in free speech, than you do in America.
You have never objected to one thing that racist, Jew hating piece of shit has ever posted.
You refused to object when he called American troops "War Criminals".
He gets his material from racist hate sites, but you have never called him a racist... Yet you have called me a racist many times, and I have never posted racist material.

Which one of those facts you want to discuss you racist bitch?

[Smurf-Herder]

Bully for you. Do you want a medal?


I didn't read any rules here that state we only post things that are non-biased. And just about every link offered even by the moderators will more or less define their slant.

So it must be OK to do so.

Of course it's okay to do so.

I'm just saying it shows how far left-wing you swing.

[radioguy]

So she's a Commie Babe?

Damn, they don't wear tight corsets with stiletto heels like Nazi prison camp babes. Now you've blown my image of her as a dominatrix. :lmao2:


She is a bitter old windbag, that hates America, allmost as much as she hate the Jews.

[LadyMod at scam.com]

Sure I can

You are a racist... That is a fact
You protect a man that called for the genocide of all the Jews in Israel.
You baned me when I called you a racist, because you can't handle the truth.
You banned frank for disagreeing with you decision.
You deleted franks post because you no more believe in free speech, than you do in America.
You have never objected to one thing that racist, Jew hating piece of shit has ever posted.
You refused to object when he called American troops "War Criminals".
He gets his material from racist hate sites, but you have never called him a racist... Yet you have called me a racist many times, and I have never posted racist material.

Which one of those facts you want to discuss you racist bitch?


LOL, the topic is not about me Cupcake. I believe this falls under harrassment. And Linkster said to stop it. Yet you persist.

I was addressing the topic of this thread. If you are unable to debate it, maybe you should stay off it until someone comes along that can.

Lady Mod

[LadyMod at scam.com]

Of course it's okay to do so.

I'm just saying it shows how far left-wing you swing.


Really, I thought I was just getting the links to the info the fastest way to get them.

Lazy and limited on time maybe, but far left? I don't think so.


I may lean left, but that's only because the right is no longer recognizable and can no longer descriminate between right and wrong.

I'll chat with you later. Grim is in his ranting and raving mode and needs time to wind down before he does permanent damage to his brain.


Lady Mod

[Smurf-Herder]

Really, I thought I was just getting the links to the info the fastest way to get them.

Lazy and limited on time maybe, but far left? I don't think so.


I may lean left, but that's only because the right is no longer recognizable and can no longer descriminate between right and wrong.

I'll chat with you later. Grim is in his ranting and raving mode and needs time to wind down before he does permanent damage to his brain.


Lady Mod

You got them there because the MSM won't print such outlandish accusations.

The only thing they ever covered on Fallujah was the use of phosphorus. Not Napalm, not mustard gas and not nerve gas.

You are way out there.

[radioguy]

Sorry about that you racist chicken shit bitch... I'll try to stay on topic.

[Independent Harry]

Well, you normally won't be seeing me post links to sites that are as obviously biased.

And where you get your news defines your slant.

you ever post a link to story by faux news...lol all the news sources are biased...

[radioguy]

you ever post a link to story by faux news...lol all the news sources are biased...

FOX's coverage of hard news is as middle of the road as it gets. It is more balanced than the news presented by ABC, NBC and CBS on their nightly broadcasts, as a UCLA study by their political science department concluded.

[LadyMod at scam.com]

Sorry about that you racist chicken shit bitch... I'll try to stay on topic.


The True Definition of a Bitch

When I stand up for myself and my beliefs, they call me a bitch.

When I stand up for those I like, they call me a bitch.

When I speak my mind, think my own thoughts or do things
my own way, they call me a bitch.

Being a bitch means I won't compromise what's in my heart.
It means I live my life MY way. It means I won't allow anyone to step on me.

When I refuse to tolerate injustice and speak up against it, I
am defined as a bitch. The same thing happens when I take
time for myself instead of being everyone's maid, or when I
act a little selfish.

I am proud to be a bitch! It means I have the courage and strength
to allow myself to be who I truly am and won't become anyone
else's idea of what they think I "should" be. I am outspoken,
opinionated and determined.

By God, I want what I want and there is nothing wrong with that!

So try to stomp on me, try to douse my inner flame,
try to squash every ounce of beauty I hold within me.
You won't succeed. And if that makes me a bitch, so be it.
I embrace the title and am proud to bear it.


Babe
In
Total
Control of
Herself.


:taunt:



Who is the True Chickenshit Racist:

Radio Guy

FACT: He can't muster up enough balls to debate the "Bitch"

FACT: From scam.com Originally Posted by grim17

I have a very good friend who I've known for 12 years now, named Alan. He happens to be black, but not your stereotypical black man.

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The blacks in America, have a completely different outlook on America.......they never wanted to be apart of the American culture

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To put it bluntly, black families have passed down from generation to generation, an anger and refusal to conform to the "White mans ways"

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That my friend is exactly what the democrats have been doing for the last 30+ years. They have promised and fought for entitlements (special privileges) for minority groups in the United States as a means to get their votes come election time. That is the reason that most blacks in America vote democrat.

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What black people see as "Whitey's" way, is in fact the "American" way, whether they like it or not.


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They refuse to conform. Refuse to give up their "blackness". And refuse to demand that their children get the best education.

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Rapists in the US do it because they are sick, Muslims do it (rape) because it's the will of ala.When someone in the US does it, they are tried and prosecuted. When Muslims do it, they site the Koran and in Muslim countries, they are not punished (for rape).

**********************

Everything he said about the actions of Muslims is true, and the sooner the peace-niks in the world stop trying to protect them, the sooner the problem can be eradicated.

**********************

Muslim's like you Dawud, are going to force the free societies of the world to to either throw the lot of you into exile, or eliminate your existence. Your brand of religion is disease, a plague, and is the most vile and deadly the world has seen in a 1000 years.

**********************

Right now, you have the bleeding heart liberals of the world completely fooled (which isn't hard to do) into thinking your people are actually human beings, but even those idiots will eventually wake up. When they do, there will be no place on earth barbarians like you will be able to hide, and it will be over for you and your tribe of blood thirsty animals.


*****************

Islam isn't like other organized religions in the world, where a person gets to embrace what ever beliefs they want, without fearing for their lives. If you are a woman born in a country ruled or dominated by Muslims, you are either Muslim, or you die. End of story!


I think the long lovely locks are robbing him of his masculinity. :D


Lady Mod

[Linkster]

Gee - my last wife always told me it was Beautiful, Intelligent, Talented, Cunning and Horny - but not necessarily in that order

[LadyMod at scam.com]

Gee - my last wife always told me it was Beautiful, Intelligent, Talented, Cunning and Horny - but not necessarily in that order

ROFLMAO!

I've been called it for those reasons too. But somehow I don't think it would have supported my case too well. Maybe Smurf herders fantasies, but not my case.

LOL


My Bumper Sticker on my car:

[Americanadian]

Sorry about that you racist chicken shit bitch... I'll try to stay on topic.

Dry up already, you AIDS infected amoeba.

[Linkster]

Americanadian - Ive already warned him and now I guess I have to do the same with you - we will not tolerate any personal attacks here

[Smurf-Herder]

you ever post a link to story by faux news...lol all the news sources are biased...

I make it a point to not post from Fox News. I always try to find multiple sources and post links to ones that seem as unbiased as possible. After three years and thousands of posts on another board, I found the left likes to cop-out on the content in favor of attacking the source. So I make it a point to do everything I can to concentrate on the facts.

[LadyMod at scam.com]

I make it a point to not post from Fox News. I always try to find multiple sources and post links to ones that seem as unbiased as possible. After three years and thousands of posts on another board, I found the left likes to cop-out on the content in favor of attacking the source. So I make it a point to do everything I can to concentrate on the facts.

I try to do that most of the time. Truly. But sometimes it is impossible to find unbias stories that support how I feel. I'm human. Some topics I lean left, other's I lean right.

And sometimes I grab the first handy source rather than search all over the net looking for others.


Lady Mod

[Smurf-Herder]

I try to do that most of the time. Truly. But sometimes it is impossible to find unbias stories that support how I feel. I'm human. Some topics I lean left, other's I lean right.

And sometimes I grab the first handy source rather than search all over the net looking for others.


Lady Mod


So, I can use that as my excuse, if I ever find myself in that position - even if I were to do something as outrageous as accuse US troops of using chemical weapons from a Leftist source?

Finding stories that support how you feel is one thing. But finding stories trying to make a case for something as extreme as that is a whole different thing. I've avoided posting on extreme things, unless I can find multiple sources, including unbiased ones.

[LadyMod at scam.com]

So, I can use that as my excuse, if I ever find myself in that position - even if I were to do something as outrageous as accuse US troops of using chemical weapons from a Leftist source?

Finding stories that support how you feel is one thing. But finding stories trying to make a case for something as extreme as that is a whole different thing. I've avoided posting on extreme things, unless I can find multiple sources, including unbiased ones.

Be my guest. I'm not going to say anything.

I might debate you on the facts contained from your sources, but I won't dish you for using the sources that you use.

Unless it's Wikipedia. That source is no longer reliable. Too many senators changing history to reflect what they want you to believe.


Then I might have to give you a hard time of it.

:pokefun:

:rant:

:winkwink:

[Bill]

Civility has taken a real bashing in america, and on this board.

This ad hominem stuff comes from both sides.

And I've been guilty of it myself.

But, gratuitous personal attacks without a specific political point need to be toned down.

This is a direct request from a board moderator to step back on the personal attacks.

We've got to keep a sense of humor and personal integrity and willingness to apologize about this stuff, because the anonymity of online debate makes it easy to commit personal injury in the name of defending your position.

[asroc]

Dish scam because of the cliques. Post another website that's supposedly better, And when here don't even participate in the threads here?

Are you done being boring yet?

You're right, i should really entertain somebody screaming that fox news and the israeli warlords are covering up 9/11. It's certainly a new point of view I haven't had screamed at me a thousand times incoherently.

Also, please let whatever happened on scam.com go. Everybody else has. I don't want to hear about it anymore.

[LadyMod at scam.com]

Civility has taken a real bashing in america, and on this board.

This ad hominem stuff comes from both sides.

And I've been guilty of it myself.

But, gratuitous personal attacks without a specific political point need to be toned down.

This is a direct request from a board moderator to step back on the personal attacks.

We've got to keep a sense of humor and personal integrity and willingness to apologize about this stuff, because the anonymity of online debate makes it easy to commit personal injury in the name of defending your position.

Ya, I went over the top more than a few times and I apologize. AND I am VERY VERY sorry I ever told a Neocon about this forum. I thought it would make for better debate to have both sides represented. It wasn't my intent to engage in WW3.

Lady Mod

[Smurf-Herder]

Be my guest. I'm not going to say anything.

I might debate you on the facts contained from your sources, but I won't dish you for using the sources that you use.

Unless it's Wikipedia. That source is no longer reliable. Too many senators changing history to reflect what they want you to believe.


Then I might have to give you a hard time of it.

:pokefun:

:rant:

:winkwink:

I believe I went through that with someone on another board, when wikipedia and another source cancelled each other out.

I make it a principle of not linking to sources with a right bias that I would question from the left. Like for instance, O'Reilly is equal to Olbermann, from each side's perpective. So I would not trust or use a story only coming from either of those two sources.

I don't use Limbaugh or Hannity; and wouldn't expect a source from an equal on the left. Same goes for a lot of organizations, on both sides.

[LadyMod at scam.com]

You're right, i should really entertain somebody screaming that fox news and the israeli warlords are covering up 9/11. It's certainly a new point of view I haven't had screamed at me a thousand times incoherently.

Also, please let whatever happened on scam.com go. Everybody else has. I don't want to hear about it anymore.

Ian, you are a little behind.

And you are too knowledgable, too good at debate to waste time on cute one liners that only aim at being cute or pissing someone off.

YOU would be an asset to this site as far as being able to really get to the meat on a topic.

Lady Mod

[asroc]

Ian, you are a little behind.

And you are too knowledgable, too good at debate to waste time on cute one liners that only aim at being cute or pissing someone off.

YOU would be an asset to this site as far as being able to really get to the meat on a topic.

Lady Mod

I debate legitimately when I find a subject worthy of acknowledgement. I don't need coaching or suggestions. Whatever your problem is, again, let it go.

[LadyMod at scam.com]

I believe I went through that with someone on another board, when wikipedia and another source cancelled each other out.

I make it a principle of not linking to sources with a right bias that I would question from the left. Like for instance, O'Reilly is equal to Olbermann, from each side's perpective. So I would not trust or use a story only coming from either of those two sources.

I never can remember who is the "Right winger" guys and who is the "Left winger" guys. I just post what I agree with or agree mostly with.


I don't stress over questions from either side. I'm not so unyielding in my beliefs that I can't be swayed with good logic. Unless I believe something very strongly, then I will allow you to believe the way you believe and will continue to believe what I believe.

That's just who I am. I am the only "liberal" in a family of staunch conservatives. And only "liberal" at my workplace. I have learned how to survive and get along in an unfriendly jungle. :)


Lady Mod

[LadyMod at scam.com]

I debate legitimately when I find a subject worthy of acknowledgement. I don't need coaching or suggestions. Whatever your problem is, again, let it go.

Who's coaching? I was complimenting.


Whatever. :truce:

[asroc]

Who's coaching? I was complimenting.


Whatever. :truce:

okay we're cool.

:banana:

[Smurf-Herder]

I'm not so unyielding in my beliefs that I can't be swayed with good logic.

Lady Mod

That's my view. I've been swayed a few times.

Although sometimes I see more emotion than logic. Not you particularly. Just in general.

[LadyMod at scam.com]

That's my view. I've been swayed a few times.

Although sometimes I see more emotion than logic. Not you particularly. Just in general.

I know what you mean. I try not to allow myself to be run by emotion. That's exhausting and counter productive.

It has it's place, but not necessarily on a political forum.

LM

[disrupter]

If the american public were even exposed to the real gore & horror of the war we have engaged in, it would already have been terminated.

Instead corrupt criminal 'contractors' & war profiteers use waving flags & false claims of patriotism to cover for crimes & abominations. We don't even see neat tidy flag draped coffins of soldiers.

i accept that war is horror,
which is why you never embark upon it lightly.

but with no draft, & pocketbook numbing deficit funding & ignorance by the media we go on oblivious to it. It would almost justify attacks on america, forcing us to stand up, pay attention to what our government is doing, and make them stringently account for it.

It is an abomination to put the IOUs for this cascade of needless horror on the backs of American children & the unborn.

Just unconscionable, America is beneath contempt.

I am not proud of america i am ashamed of it.

if you are going to do something, look it straight in the face, call it as it is, & commit fully to it.
To commit horrors & then just ignore them is psychosis,
nothing better than a serial killer.

America, land of individual & collective psychotic serial killers.

[LadyMod at scam.com]

If the american public were even exposed to the real gore & horror of the war we have engaged in, it would already have been terminated.

Instead corrupt criminal 'contractors' & war profiteers use waving flags & false claims of patriotism to cover for crimes & abominations. We don't even see neat tidy flag draped coffins of soldiers.

i accept that war is horror,
which is why you never embark upon it lightly.

but with no draft, & pocketbook numbing deficit funding & ignorance by the media we go on oblivious to it. It would almost justify attacks on america, forcing us to stand up, pay attention to what our government is doing, and make them stringently account for it.

It is an abomination to put the IOUs for this cascade of needless horror on the backs of American children & the unborn.

Just unconscionable, America is beneath contempt.

I am not proud of america i am ashamed of it.

if you are going to do something, look it straight in the face, call it as it is, & commit fully to it.
To commit horrors & then just ignore them is psychosis,
nothing better than a serial killer.

America, land of individual & collective psychotic serial killers.

There is ample proof, even on this site that exposing people to the real Horror of war will not change their minds on supporting that we send more of our young men and women (boys and girls) to die in the war. Like anyone exposed to blood, guts and hollywood horror movies regularly, they soon turn numb and what would normally shock them into action to stop it, merely passes by with barely an acknowledgment.

Until it strikes home, they aren't going to change their minds. It's not real to them, just pictures, footage on television and reports. As long as they don't have to personally sacrifice anything, they don't care.

Such is the mentality of the Politicians who support and make wars and those who endorse and support those politicians.

It doesn't seem to matter that over 70% of the population has opened it's eyes and said "Enough" and "End the war".


Lady Mod

[Germ17]

Sure I can

You are a racist... That is a fact
You protect a man that called for the genocide of all the Jews in Israel.
You baned me when I called you a racist, because you can't handle the truth.
You banned frank for disagreeing with you decision.
You deleted franks post because you no more believe in free speech, than you do in America.
You have never objected to one thing that racist, Jew hating piece of shit has ever posted.
You refused to object when he called American troops "War Criminals".
He gets his material from racist hate sites, but you have never called him a racist... Yet you have called me a racist many times, and I have never posted racist material.

Which one of those facts you want to discuss you racist bitch?

LOL.. Here's some facts.

A sampling of RadioChimp's Manifesto from Scam.com. Proof that this low-down sack of shit is one of the biggest liars and two faced weasels you'll ever smell anywhere.

The only problem this homo-crite has with "racism" is when his own Racist Supremacist Apartheid Hate Cult - Zionists - draws any type of criticism for their monstrous ethnic cleansing campaign and relentless criminal activity. Then he starts crying "racist" racist" "racist" "librul" "librul" "librul" like a fucking shrill parrot on crystal meth wearing a fright wig and cheap sunglasses.

He's nothing but an asinine joke and a walking obscenity who embodies the rankest forms of religious bigotry, hate, and shameless hypocrisy so flagrant and vile it makes you want to take a shower every time the douche bag pokes his head out of the toilet to regurgitate, yet, more of his fecund sewage.

Now, Let's take a little stroll down memory lane through some of this lying rodent's stool samples. Here we observe a level of rank two faced hypocrisy and racism from this ass-wipe by taking a look at his special brand of REALLY bigoted excreta that he spews under the moniker of Grim17 at Scam.com - shall we?


Originally Posted by RadioChimp - Anti Racist Crusader

I have a very good friend who I've known for 12 years now, named Alan. He happens to be black, but not your stereotypical black man.


Originally Posted by RadioChimp - Anti Racist Crusader

The blacks in America, have a completely different outlook on America.......they never wanted to be apart of the American culture

Originally Posted by RadioChimp - Anti Racist Crusader

To put it bluntly, black families have passed down from generation to generation, an anger and refusal to conform to the "White mans ways"

Originally Posted by RadioChimp - Anti Racist Crusader

That my friend is exactly what the democrats have been doing for the last 30+ years. They have promised and fought for entitlements (special privileges) for minority groups in the United States as a means to get their votes come election time. That is the reason that most blacks in America vote democrat.

Originally Posted by RadioChimp - Anti Racist Crusader

What black people see as "Whitey's" way, is in fact the "American" way, whether they like it or not.

Originally Posted by RadioChimp - Anti Racist Crusader (One of my personal favorites - Editor)

They refuse to conform. Refuse to give up their "blackness". And refuse to demand that their children get the best education.

Originally Posted by RadioChimp - Anti Racist Crusader

Rapists in the US do it because they are sick, Muslims do it (rape) because it's the will of ala.When someone in the US does it, they are tried and prosecuted. When Muslims do it, they site the Koran and in Muslim countries, they are not punished (for rape).

Originally Posted by RadioChimp - Anti Racist Crusader

Everything he said about the actions of Muslims is true, and the sooner the peace-niks in the world stop trying to protect them, the sooner the problem can be eradicated.

Originally Posted by RadioChimp - Anti Racist Crusader

Muslim's like you Dawud, are going to force the free societies of the world to to either throw the lot of you into exile, or eliminate your existence. Your brand of religion is disease, a plague, and is the most vile and deadly the world has seen in a 1000 years.

Editors Note: Poor Grimey (RadioChimp) has been whining about only being accused of racism. So, the above quote references an example of his rank religious bigotry (Grimey howling for genocide against Muslims) to demonstrate his versatility

Originally Posted by RadioChimp - Anti Racist Crusader

Right now, you have the bleeding heart liberals of the world completely fooled (which isn't hard to do) into thinking your people are actually human beings, but even those idiots will eventually wake up. When they do, there will be no place on earth barbarians like you will be able to hide, and it will be over for you and your tribe of blood thirsty animals.

Editors note: Grimey (RadioChimp) referring to 1/3 of the human race as "animals"

Originally Posted by RadioChimp - Anti Racist Crusader

Are American Muslims laying the groundwork for a re-birth of Jim Crow? The answer is yes.....

Grimey (RadioChimp) calling for Jim Crow laws to be enacted against an entire caste of people based wholly on their race, nationality and religion.

Originally Posted by RadioChimp - Anti Racist Crusader

Islam isn't like other organized religions in the world, where a person gets to embrace what ever beliefs they want, without fearing for their lives. If you are a woman born in a country ruled or dominated by Muslims, you are either Muslim, or you die. End of story!

Grimey (RadioChimp) indulging in arcane and ignorant vitriol pulled arbitrarily out of his butt, as usual... Just to demonstrate what a hateful, vicious, nasty little Monkey he really is. And what staggeringly blind ignorance it is, too. The rich history of Arab Christians - who comprise millions of people throughout the Muslim Nations in the Middle East - is, understandably, way over Grimey's head and his ilk's. There's no question about that. So, I won't go there. He's not worth the time. So what else can you say but... Gimme a fvcking break?


If anybody is going to start condemning people because of "Racism", start with the most demonstrably racist bigoted hypocrite there is -- "Anti Racist" Crusader - RadioChimp

[asroc]

Fucking. Enough.

You're all just repeating yourselves now. It's incredibly irritating and rude to the people who were here before we started posting.

[Germ17]

Fucking. Enough.

You're all just repeating yourselves now. It's incredibly irritating and rude to the people who were here before we started posting.


Why don't you stop your incessant whining and use the ignore function?

[Linkster]

If you want to discuss old stuff from another board - take it to the other board - I dont like my ignore button

[Germ17]

If you want to discuss old stuff from another board - take it to the other board - I dont like my ignore button


Sure, you have a good point. But RadioViper is launching personal attacks here against me and Lady Moderator based on the material from that other site. And his hypocrisy and lies will go unchallenged otherwise. I take no joy in dwelling on the asshole's petrified excreta. I wouldn't even care if he confined his proclivity to smear moderators who get fed up with his psycho-puke and infect other sites with his disease to just attacking me. But, his slanderous and infantile sniveling should be exposed for what it is by those who have observed his pathological condition for some time. Simply, let it be a heads-up to the other moderators.

[asroc]

I get the feeling this isn't going to let up until some bans are handed out.

[LadyMod at scam.com]

Why don't you stop your incessant whining and use the ignore function?

D, could we perhaps put the focus back on the issues and not on those guys who indulge in making false accusations and insist on pulling topics off course?

Eventually those persons will hang themselves again anyway. Why join them?

It's not that important at the moment.


Lady Mod

[LadyMod at scam.com]

I get the feeling this isn't going to let up until some bans are handed out.

Well Ian, a two or three hour ban yesterday is hardly worth calling a ban. LOL. D is not aware that some people were already banned for a brief moment in time, he wasn't on the forum yesterday.

Now he will be. So please give it 10 minutes or so to be noticed?

Lady Mod

[Linkster]

Germ - that problem has already been fixed - I believe - at least it was as of around 6 last night - if I see anymore of it I will ban anyone taking part in it and I really dont like that idea

[LadyMod at scam.com]

And besides D. I challenged him to debate this particular issue two or three times on this thread.

He apparently has declined to do so.

THAT speaks volumes about his own sources and convictions.

BTW, thanks for taking up for me. I appreciated it more than you could ever know.


Namaste'

Lady Mod

[Americanadian]

Americanadian - Ive already warned him and now I guess I have to do the same with you - we will not tolerate any personal attacks here

Okay, fair enough. Considering you guys will keep a tight leash on Radioguy, we should be able to conduct ourselves in a civil manner. I'll start by changing my avatar back to its former self.

[Americanadian]

Fucking. Enough.

You're all just repeating yourselves now. It's incredibly irritating and rude to the people who were here before we started posting.

LOL...I've been witnessing remarks like this on both boards now for the past few days. It's rather humorous on one hand that the exact same dysfunction merely switches forums. Don't you feel all warm and fuzzy? Like one big happy family, we are. :taunt:

[LadyMod at scam.com]

LOL...I've been witnessing remarks like this on both boards now for the past few days. It's rather humorous on one hand that the exact same dysfunction merely switches forums. Don't you feel all warm and fuzzy? Like one big happy family, we are. :taunt:


LOL, I like it when you are naughty.


:hi:

[Americanadian]

LOL, I like it when you are naughty.


:hi:

But of course. :winkwink: :D