Tell Armed Force Radio to bump the fat boy the republicans coward poster boy

[Jesse Hemingway]

Call armed forces radio and tell them to take that bag of CHT rush the poster boy for the draft dodging chicken shit ASS off their programing. 877-829-550



http://armedforcesradionetwork.org/images/501.jpg

http://www.armedforcesradionetwork.org/contact.html

[Smurf-Herder]

So you're against free speech, if it doesn't agree with you.

[Jesse Hemingway]

So you're against free speech, if it doesn't agree with you.

First of all free speech is a constitutional right; something the right wing can not handle. The point I am getting at is that armed forces radio pipe in the fat ass shit bag for 6 hours a day. It took help from congress to get 1 hour of the Ed Shultz show. http://www.wegoted.com/ his show is a middle of the road politically but the right wing does not think the military can handle anything but their propaganda.

On an even playing field without the help of large corporations that are under writing the right wing radio, progressive radio would out right kick the right wings ASS fact.

One of the reason I hate the phony ass right in the United States is they are largest recipients of corporate welfare they could not stand on their own.

[disrupter]

It is free speech to bring public opinion to bear, without outlawing anything.

& it isn't about congressional politics, it is about public decency.

[disrupter]

Hey, Smurfie, "I am not a number. I am a free man!"
28301-016, wouldn't be your FORMER number would it? [Scooter Libby's prison number recently featured on 'My Name is Earl' one of the few commercial network shows i find entertaining to watch.]

Scooter is only free because the GOP Mafia Don, Bush, sprung him outta the slammer. Even before the pedophilic bestiality porno author got a chance to sample a little uninvited man-loving from behind his behind. [something about a whorehouse with little girls surrendered to bears for patrons to watch them get raped]

[Smurf-Herder]

First of all free speech is a constitutional right; something the right wing can not handle. The point I am getting at is that armed forces radio pipe in the fat ass shit bag for 6 hours a day. It took help from congress to get 1 hour of the Ed Shultz show. http://www.wegoted.com/ his show is a middle of the road politically but the right wing does not think the military can handle anything but their propaganda.

On an even playing field without the help of large corporations that are under writing the right wing radio, progressive radio would out right kick the right wings ASS fact.

One of the reason I hate the phony ass right in the United States is they are largest recipients of corporate welfare they could not stand on their own.

Rush Limbaugh is only on armed forces radio for one hour a day. The same as Ed Shultz. But you want to ban him totally.

[radioguy]

It is free speech to bring public opinion to bear, without outlawing anything.

& it isn't about congressional politics, it is about public decency.

I think it's about what the military personnel want to hear. Since Armed Forces Radio is for the troops, don't you think that it should be broadcasting what they want to hear?

The troops like Rush Limbaugh, because he is on their side and supports what they are fighting for, where Mr. Schultz has a platform that does not support their mission. Schultz glorifies idiots like Harry Reid, who say that the war is lost... Bone heads like Dick Durbin who compared the troops to those of Stalin, Hitler and Pol Pot... Anti-Military jerk-offs like John Murtha who said that troops had murdered civilians in cold blood, before a trial ever took place... Flip floppers like John Kerry who said US troops terrorize innocent Iraqi woman and children in the dead of night. All this, while these brave men and women are still over there fighting.

Republicans may disagree with the speech being spewed by the left, but they don't try and suppress it... Liberals on the other hand, not only disagree with with the speech of republicans, but they do everything in their power to squelch it. Just ask Rush, Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, or any other conservative in the last few years that has been invited to speak on college campuses. They have been the victims of disruptions designed to prevent their words from being heard, along with being physically attacked by liberal protesters. Code Pink was the perfect example of this at the congressional testimony of General Patraeus.

[Jesse Hemingway]

I think it's about what the military personnel want to hear. Since Armed Forces Radio is for the troops, don't you think that it should be broadcasting what they want to hear?

Ok Einstein what does military think about bush’s Iraq policy?

This was a poll from 2005.

http://www.militarycity.com/polls/2005_main.php

[Jesse Hemingway]

Put Ed Schultz on Armed Forces Radio


Over 25,000 signatures were sent to Congress. The Ed Schultz progam is now airing on Armed Forces Radio.


Background


I urge you to call on the Pentagon to honor their promise and air the Ed Schultz Show on Armed Forces Radio. It's time to restore political balance in the programming being broadcast to our men and women in uniform.





Put Ed Schultz on Armed Forces Radio!


Many of you probably already know Ed Schultz, a prominent progressive radio talk show host who is syndicated nationwide. You may not know what happened this week though.


After being told that the first hour of Ed Schultz's daily radio show would air live on Armed Forces Radio every day, the Pentagon suddenly reversed the decision and refused to air Ed's program Monday morning, only hours before the first show would have been broadcast. The explanation for this sudden reversal seems weak.


Last year, Sen. Tom Harkin (D-IA) introduced a resolution that was unanimously passed by the Senate, urging Secretary Rumsfeld and Armed Forces Radio to ensure more political balance in programming.


Then, at the end of September, Manny Levy, Chief of the Radio Division of the American Forces Network Broadcast Center, advised Schultz's distributor, Jones Radio, that: "AFN Radio has squared away everything on our end to begin carrying the first hour of 'The Ed Schultz Show' each day, beginning Monday, October 17, 2005."


But suddenly, at 7 am on Monday the 17th, Allison Barber, the Pentagon's deputy assistant secretary for internal communications -- the same person who was responsible for staging last week's ill-fated video conference between President Bush and American troops in Iraq -- called Schultz's producer. Without any further explanation, she simply said that the deal was off.


It was just 11 years ago when 70 Republican Members of Congress, led by then Congressman Robert Dornan (R-CA), demanded that President Clinton's Secretary of Defense Les Aspin broadcast Rush Limbaugh's radio and television programs to the military.


Well if Armed Services Radio is good enough for Rush Limbaugh, it's certainly good enough for Ed Schultz.


Send an email to your Members of Congress now -- urge them to enforce fair play on Armed Forces Radio!


Sincerely,



Wes Clark

[radioguy]

Ok Einstein what does military think about bush’s Iraq policy?

This was a poll from 2005.

http://www.militarycity.com/polls/2005_main.php

If they disagreed with the war, why then did they sign up to go?

Every single soldier in that war, is there of their own free will. They all knew when they signed on the dotted line, that they would likely go to Iraq. I think that says it all, and no poll in the world can change that fact.

ps, I love how you change the subject when the facts become to unbearable for you.

[Jesse Hemingway]

Wednesday, November 16, 2005
GOP Senate Keeps American Forces Network Unfair and Unbalanced
Among the many Democrat-sponsored amendments shot down by the GOP-dominated Senate so far in November was one a week ago from Tom Harkin (D-IA) that would have promoted programming balance on the American Forces Radio Network.

On a straight party-line vote last week, Senate Republicans voted down a bill 54-44 that would have established an ombudsman function to monitor the American Forces Network, based on its current content of almost 100 percent conservative programming, including Rush Limbaugh.

"This amendment, offered by me, Senator Dorgan, and a number of others, addresses the problem of the extreme imbalance of political programming on American Forces Radio," said Harkin when introducing his bill. "The programming offered by American Forces Radio is anything but balanced. Instead, American Forces Radio carries the shows of noted conservatives such as Rush Limbaugh, Dr. Laura Schlesinger, and James Dobson, to the near total exclusion of any progressive talk radio hosts."

Harkin pointed out while arguing on the Senate floor that, of all the American Forces Radio outlets around the world, most offer at least 85 percent conservative programming, while many offer only the right-wing viewpoint.

"[B]On the 33 stations around the world, we have 100 percent Rush Limbaugh and Dr. Laura and James Dobson, and zero percent of any kind of progressive radio," said Harkin. "I don't care how you cut it, slice it, dice it, or excuse it, this is unfair. This is censorship. This is propagandizing our troops. They deserve better than that."
Harkin also commented on Rush Limbaugh's many public tirades about the legislation in which he insisted that Harkin's amendment was intended to remove his show from American Forces Radio entirely and to censor his point of view.

"Typical of Rush Limbaugh. He doesn't understand what is happening," said Harkin. "He wouldn't know the truth if it hit him in the face. All I'm asking for is balance on taxpayer-funded radio. What Rush Limbaugh wants is monopoly. To him, to have someone oppose him and get equal time might be the same as, in his mind, taking him off the air. That is probably the way he thinks."

On the Republican side of the aisle, Senator James Inhofe (R-OK) fought the Harkin amendment tooth and nail claiming that, because the American Forces Network runs National Public Radio (NPR) for mainstream news items, balance is provided to the likes of Limbaugh and James Dobson.

Senator Byron Dorgan (D-ND), a cosponsor of the Harkin bill, blasted Inhofe over that assertion.

"My colleague from Oklahoma says 'Well, Rush Limbaugh is balanced by National Public Radio.' How one could actually make that assertion without openly laughing is hard for me to understand," said Dorgan. "That surely must be a joke. NPR does not counterbalance right-wing talk. National Public Radio, if there is something in this country that is fair and balanced -- NPR is not about political programming on the right or the left."

"What he [Limbaugh] does is, he relentlessly kicks the living daylights out of the opposite party. Is that found on NPR?" Dorgan continued. "The implication and the suggestion on the Senate floor and elsewhere that NPR is some sort of left-wing political show is absolute rubbish. I am sorry. It is absolute nonsense. I am so tired of hearing it."

None of this helped in the end as the bill, an amendment to the Defense Appropriations Bill for 2006, had every single Republican lined up against it.

Inhofe then offered a totally neutered version of the amendment that would allow the Defense Department to hire an ombudsman to monitor programming, but his language was nonbinding, meaning it didn't have the force of law and didn't require any Pentagon action at all.

That amendment passed 55-43.

But it was Harkin who truly pointed out the dangers of our military personnel hearing such a one-sided view of current events from the likes of Rush Limbaugh.

"Here is what Rush Limbaugh had to say about Abu Ghraib: He called it -- these are his words, not mine – 'a fraternity prank.' He likened it to a fraternity prank. He dubbed the humiliation of inmates 'a brilliant maneuver, no different than what happens at the skull and bones initiation at Yale.' This is Rush Limbaugh talking about Abu Ghraib. He described the images of torture as 'pictures of homoerotism that looked like standard, good-old American pornography.' That is Rush Limbaugh talking to our troops 100 percent of the time. He said of the pictures at Abu Ghraib -- this is a quote from Rush Limbaugh – 'if you take these pictures and bring them back and have them taken in an American city and put on an American Web site, they might win a video award from the pornography industry.'"

"I ask, does this represent the views and attitudes of the average American citizen?" " demanded Harkin. "Maybe Vice President Cheney and Rush Limbaugh feel that way, but I don't think too many other Americans do."

[radioguy]

Hey Jesse, a few questions for you:

1. Who does AFR serve?

2. Shouldn't the content of AFR be decided by those it serves, rather than politicians in Washington?

3. Or is it your belief that you and the democrats should dictate what they listen to, because you all know what's best for them?

4. Is it your position, that the troops should have no choice what is presented, on a broadcast network that exists to serve them?

I can't wait to hear your answers to those questions.

Anyone wanna bet he doesn't answer them?

[Linkster]

I actually believe that AFR/TV just puts our a cross-section of exactly the same stuff that is on the radio in the US - and looking at their overall programming schedule it looks like it is
The problem that causes this is not something that the military caused - the problem is that liberals have yet to establish a radio program that has any following - they tried with AA, but its financial success was very limited.
The only other close call for liberals was Ed Shultz (sp?) but he kind of screwed that up himself.

Of course the other problem that you have is that while AFR provides the overall schedule - each theater (area of the world) director can choose what gets played and what doesnt.
While I realize that most of it was comedy - a really good look at this was done by Robin Williams in Good Morning Vietnam - and really was a good truthful look at the censoring that goes into broadcasts to soldiers. I may not agree with the premise, and Williams examined that in depth in the move, but it has been happening since radio first was broadcast to troops and I would expect that a military power would do exactly what they are doing

[Jesse Hemingway]

Hey Jesse, a few questions for you:

1. Who does AFR serve?

2. Shouldn't the content of AFR be decided by those it serves, rather than politicians in Washington?

3. Or is it your belief that you and the democrats should dictate what they listen to, because you all know what's best for them?

4. Is it your position, that the troops should have no choice what is presented, on a broadcast network that exists to serve them?

I can't wait to hear your answers to those questions.

Anyone wanna bet he doesn't answer them?

1.) AFR not sure I would have look at their books

2.) We are their employers

3.) No, just equal time hour for hour let the listeners decided

4.) The moment they sign the enlistment contract they become a second class citizen by contractual agreement.

[Jesse Hemingway]

Less than half of military votes overseas counted
Election commission: 57,000 ballots were cast in ’06
By Leo Shane III, Stars and Stripes
Mideast edition, Tuesday, September 25, 2007



WASHINGTON — Overseas military voters had less than half of their votes counted in last year’s congressional elections, according to data released by the U.S. Election Assistance Commission on Monday.

“One thing is clear: At every level of government, we need to do a better job,” said Donetta Davidson, chair of the commission. “We must make sure all eligible voters are getting their opportunities.”

The figures, released at the commission’s annual conference on ways to improve and troubleshoot the absentee voting process, showed that only about 992,000 of the nearly 6 million eligible overseas citizens requested ballots for the 2006 general election.

That included about 119,000 military personnel stationed outside the United States. Of those, only about 57,000 — less than 48 percent — had their votes successfully cast or counted.

http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=56561&archive=true

[radioguy]

Here are the questions, and Jesse's answers... Let's review, shall we...

1. Who does AFR serve?
A: AFR not sure I would have look at their books

It is the ARMED FORCES RADIO NETWORK Jesse. It serves the members of the ARMED FORCES!


2. Shouldn't the content of AFR be decided by those it serves, rather than politicians in Washington?
A: We are their employers

WTF does that mean? Answer the question Jesse.


3. Or is it your belief that you and the democrats should dictate what they listen to, because you all know what's best for them?
A: No, just equal time hour for hour let the listeners decided

Letting the listeners decide is correct, but giving equal time was not what listeners decided. It's what YOU and THE DEMOCRATS in Washington are trying to force down their throats. The reason Rush has more time is because that is what THE LISTENERS aka the troops, decided.


4. Is it your position, that the troops should have no choice what is presented, on a broadcast network that exists to serve them?
A: The moment they sign the enlistment contract they become a second class citizen by contractual agreement.

Again, WTF does that mean? Answer the question Jesse!

He managed 2 out of 4... That's better than I expected, but he still flunked the test miserably.

[radioguy]

Less than half of military votes overseas counted
Election commission: 57,000 ballots were cast in ’06
By Leo Shane III, Stars and Stripes
Mideast edition, Tuesday, September 25, 2007



WASHINGTON — Overseas military voters had less than half of their votes counted in last year’s congressional elections, according to data released by the U.S. Election Assistance Commission on Monday.

“One thing is clear: At every level of government, we need to do a better job,” said Donetta Davidson, chair of the commission. “We must make sure all eligible voters are getting their opportunities.”

The figures, released at the commission’s annual conference on ways to improve and troubleshoot the absentee voting process, showed that only about 992,000 of the nearly 6 million eligible overseas citizens requested ballots for the 2006 general election.

That included about 119,000 military personnel stationed outside the United States. Of those, only about 57,000 — less than 48 percent — had their votes successfully cast or counted.

http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=56561&archive=true

You better thank your lucky stars for that bub... Because if they would have all been counted, the margin of victory for president Bush would have been even greater!

[Jesse Hemingway]

You better thank your lucky stars for that bub... Because if they would have all been counted, the margin of victory for president Bush would have been even greater!

Radioguy you are brilliant got me on that what was I thinking 2006 election.

[Jesse Hemingway]

Here are the questions, and Jesse's answers... Let's review, shall we...

1. Who does AFR serve?
A: AFR not sure I would have look at their books

It is the ARMED FORCES RADIO NETWORK Jesse. It serves the members of the ARMED FORCES!it is a 501c non profit it is a business in bush's america. i would have no idea who AFR really serves


2. Shouldn't the content of AFR be decided by those it serves, rather than politicians in Washington?
A: We are their employers

WTF does that mean? Answer the question Jesse.The military is a socialist organization and the taxpayers are their masters


3. Or is it your belief that you and the democrats should dictate what they listen to, because you all know what's best for them?
A: No, just equal time hour for hour let the listeners decided

Letting the listeners decide is correct, but giving equal time was not what listeners decided. It's what YOU and THE DEMOCRATS in Washington are trying to force down their throats. The reason Rush has more time is because that is what THE LISTENERS aka the troops, decided. No larry craig forces things down peoples thoats RIGHT


4. Is it your position, that the troops should have no choice what is presented, on a broadcast network that exists to serve them?
A: The moment they sign the enlistment contract they become a second class citizen by contractual agreement.

Again, WTF does that mean? Answer the question Jesse! Once you sign the contract the military owns your body but not your mind you lose rights when you join the military

He managed 2 out of 4... That's better than I expected, but he still flunked the test miserably.

[Jennifer]

Radioguy's right. Every soldier's enlistment contract has expired at some point during this war at this time. So that means 100% of them signed up to participate in this war.


Anyway, from what I have read and heard, Rush's statements were taken out of context and twisted into a meaning that was never stated or implied by Rush.

However, if you have a day and hour that this alleged comment was made, feel free to post it so we can all look at the transcripts of his show for the entire hour and get the full context of what he was saying, not the two words you cherry picked.

[Linkster]

Jennifer - I posted it for you over in that other thread

[Smurf-Herder]

This is just plain old dirty politics.

And now the country is locked into a perpetual dirty politics cycle, regardless of campaigns.

This whole thing got trumped up by Media Matters. Which was created by David Broc with help from the Clintons.

Total Bullshit!

[Jesse Hemingway]

Radioguy's right. Every soldier's enlistment contract has expired at some point during this war at this time. So that means 100% of them signed up to participate in this war.


Anyway, from what I have read and heard, Rush's statements were taken out of context and twisted into a meaning that was never stated or implied by Rush.

However, if you have a day and hour that this alleged comment was made, feel free to post it so we can all look at the transcripts of his show for the entire hour and get the full context of what he was saying, not the two words you cherry picked.

JENNIFER I guess you and Radioguy never have been in the United States military. I heard what that bitch boy limbagofshit said and he was talking about ALL in the military that did not agree with drug riddled concept of bush failure called Iraq. When some one says something it does not mean a goddam thing what the F$KKKING doper meant, all I heard him say he was talking shit about my military. So if you want to mop up after that bag CHT go for it and as long as you and Radio guy are under 42 you ought sign up and do something that limbagofshit never has done and serve the country.

A little secret about the military you are referred to as a civilian and every one in the military know civilians do not know shit.

[Jennifer]

Hey Jesse, guess what, you don't know what censorship is!

Censorship is when the US Government prohibits you from speaking or printing your thoughts. Censorship is not when a radio station polls its listeners and decides not to carry your show so they can keep market share. That is called doing business.

[Jesse Hemingway]

Hey Jesse, guess what, you don't know what censorship is!

Censorship is when the US Government prohibits you from speaking or printing your thoughts. Censorship is not when a radio station polls its listeners and decides not to carry your show so they can keep market share. That is called doing business.
The taxpayer pays for whats on AFN and that fat Limbagoffshit is a chicken shit draft doger just like bush they are the poster boys for "phony Americans". If you support this administration more power to you but without the censorhip of the news that has be occuring since 12/12/2000 America has become weaker so keep fooling yourself. The real funny thing the Limbagofshit can not stand the average American so do what you got to do.

[Little Red Dog]

Actually radioguy and Jennifer -

D.O.D. Enlistment Contract states, in part:

"9.c. In the event of war, my enlistment in the Armed Forces continues until six (6) months after the war ends,
unless my enlistment is ended soon by the President of the United States.

10. MILITARY SERVICE OBLIGATION FOR ALL
MEMBERS OF THE ACTIVE AND RESERVE
COMPONENTS, INCLUDING THE NATIONAL GUARD.

a. FOR ALL ENTLISTEES: If this is my initial enlistment, I must serve a total of eight (8) years. Any part
of that service not served on active duty must be served in a
Reserve Component unless I am sooner discharged.

b. If I am a member of a Reserve Component of an Armed Force at the beginning of a period of war or national
emergency declared by Congress, or if I become a member during that period, my military service may be
extended without my consent until six (6) months after the end of that period of war.

c. As a member of a Reserve Component, in time of war or national emergency declared by the Congress, I may be
required to serve on active duty (other than for training) for the entire period of the war or emergency and for six (6) months
after its end.

Doesn't sound like a whole lot of "voluntary" going on in the voluntary army. Sounds to me like these guys can't leave until someone in charge says they can.

Pretty shi*ty deal, if you ask me.

So much for, "Anyone who is over there is there because they want to be. Ergo, every soldier supports the Iraq war."

According to the DOD enlistment form - 'ain't necessarily so.

[Little Red Dog]

By the way - you know what "Pills" deferment was for?

A pilonidal cyst.

For the uninitated, that a cyst at the base of the spine, caused by an ingrown hair. It can cause extremely painful swelling, frequently acompanied by a discharge. However, it is easily corrected by a minor operation.

Apparently "Pills" says his cyst was "inoperable". Whatever.

Because, the really interesting thing about his "disability" is that a untreated pilonidal cyst is so painful, it hurts to walk or sit.

Which makes it interesting that it was bad enough to get him out of the military - but not bad enough to stop him sitting his fat ass in a radio studio for hours at a time.

Still, it IS appropriate that his alleged disability can be described as "A huge pain in the ass."

[Jennifer]

Oh my frackin lord, you don't know anything about enlistments huh?

Guess I didn't unenlist in April of 2006 because the war isn't over.... :banghead:


Jesse: Unless you missed it, Dan Rather was fired because he doctored records to try and prove Bush deserted. He never deserted. He never draft dodged. He served.

As for Rush, Rush was medically disqualified for service. Again, not a draft dodger.


Sorry to burst the bubble of lies you live in so you can get through your day as a Democrat, but you brought it up.

[Little Red Dog]

The excerpt, friend, is from the enlistment sign up sheet. I didn't write it. D.O.D. did.

Although I don't find it surprising that the military would have let you go at the earliest possible opportunity.

That is, of course, assuming that you ever served. Given your wholehearted support for the Iraq war, I would think you'd have chosen to go back. The military being short on recruits and all.

I guess "support the soldiers" only goes so far, huh?

[disrupter]

STD prevention?

[Jennifer]

The excerpt, friend, is from the enlistment sign up sheet. I didn't write it. D.O.D. did.

Although I don't find it surprising that the military would have let you go at the earliest possible opportunity.

That is, of course, assuming that you ever served. Given your wholehearted support for the Iraq war, I would think you'd have chosen to go back. The military being short on recruits and all.

I guess "support the soldiers" only goes so far, huh?

I served. 12 years. Honorable discharge. You, obviously, havn't served a day in your life.

You can leave the day your contract is up. Period. End of story. Iraq is not a declared war, thus they cannot keep you on staff. But you, not knowing the difference between an anus and a hole in the ground, probably didn't know that either.

Furthermore, re-enlistment rates are up. Have been for a long time. All of my buddies were drooling to re-up. I couldnt because I got blown up in Iraq and medically discharged. Maybe I should be president. Can't be any worse then hillary or mccain or obama anyway. (Better then edwards too, but he doesn't have a chance anyway.)

[Linkster]

May I ask how long ago you left Iraq Jennifer? Seems kinda strange that in one thread you are talking about having health insurance that costs you over 4000 a year - and yet if you are injured in Iraq you are covered for 2 years after you come home by the military - and does your purple heart look like Kerrys?

[Little Red Dog]

Oh what a tangled web we weave.....

[Little Red Dog]

Iraq is not a declared war...

You should tell The Decider. He keeps telling us otherwise.