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radioguy
09-27-2007, 01:10 AM
SILENCE IN SYRIA, PANIC IN IRAN
Written by Dr. Jack Wheeler
Wednesday, 19 September 2007


One of India's top ranking generals assigned to liaise with the Iranian military recently returned to New Delhi from several days in Tehran - in a state of complete amazement.

"Everyone in the government and military can only talk of one thing," he reports. "No matter who I talked to, all they could do was ask me, over and over again, ‘Do you think the Americans will attack us?' ‘When will the Americans attack us?' ‘Will the Americans attack us in a joint operation with the Israelis?' How massive will the attack be?' on and on, endlessly. The Iranians are in a state of total panic."

And that was before September 6. Since then, it's panic-squared in Tehran. The mullahs are freaking out in fear. Why? Because of the silence in Syria.

On September 6, Israeli Air Force F-15 and F-16s conducted a devastating attack on targets deep inside Syria near the city of Dayr az-Zawr. Israel's military censors have muzzled the Israeli media, enforcing an extraordinary silence about the identity of the targets. Massive speculation in the world press has followed, such as Brett Stephens' Osirak II? in yesterday's (9/18) Wall St. Journal.

Stephens and most everyone else have missed the real story. It is not Israel's silence that "speaks volumes" as he claims, but Syria's. Why would the Syrian government be so tight-lipped about an act of war perpetrated on their soil?

The first half of the answer lies in this story that appeared in the Israeli media last month (8/13): Syria's Antiaircraft System Most Advanced In World. Syria has gone on a profligate buying spree, spending vast sums on Russian systems, "considered the cutting edge in aircraft interception technology."

Syria now "possesses the most crowded antiaircraft system in the world," with "more than 200 antiaircraft batteries of different types," some of which are so new that they have been installed in Syria "before being introduced into Russian operation service."

While you're digesting that, take a look at the map of Syria:

http://www.tothepointnews.com/images/stories/syria_map.jpg

Notice how far away Dayr az-Zawr is from Israel. An F15/16 attack there is not a tiptoe across the border, but a deep, deep penetration of Syrian airspace. And guess what happened with the Russian super-hyper-sophisticated cutting edge antiaircraft missile batteries when that penetration took place on September 6th.

Nothing.

El blanko. Silence. The systems didn't even light up, gave no indication whatever of any detection of enemy aircraft invading Syrian airspace, zip, zero, nada. The Israelis (with a little techie assistance from us) blinded the Russkie antiaircraft systems so completely the Syrians didn't even know they were blinded.

Now you see why the Syrians have been scared speechless. They thought they were protected - at enormous expense - only to discover they are defenseless. As in naked.

Thus the Great Iranian Freak-Out - for this means Iran is just as nakedly defenseless as Syria. I can tell you that there are a lot of folks in the Kirya (IDF headquarters in Tel Aviv) and the Pentagon right now who are really enjoying the mullahs' predicament. Let's face it: scaring the terror masters in Tehran out of their wits is fun.

It's so much fun, in fact, that an attack destroying Iran's nuclear facilities and the Revolutionary Guard command/control centers has been delayed, so that France (under new management) can get in on the fun too.

On Sunday (9/16), Sarkozy's foreign minister Bernard Kouchner announced that "France should prepare for the possibility of war over Iran's nuclear program."

All of this has caused Tehran to respond with maniacal threats. On Monday (9/17), a government website proclaimed that "600 Shihab-3 missiles" will be fired at targets in Israel in response to an attack upon Iran by the US/Israel. This was followed by Iranian deputy air force chief Gen. Mohammad Alavi announcing today (9/19) that "we will attack their (Israeli) territory with our fighter bombers as a response to any attack."

A sure sign of panic is to make a threat that everyone knows is a bluff. So our and Tel Aviv's response to Iranian bluster is a thank-you-for-sharing yawn and a laugh. Few things rattle the mullahs' cages more than a yawn and a laugh.

Yet no matter how much fun this sport with the mullahs is, it is also deadly serious. The pressure build-up on Iran is getting enormous. Something is going to blow and soon. The hope is that the blow-up will be internal, that the regime will implode from within.

But make no mistake: an all-out full regime take-out air assault upon Iran is coming if that hope doesn't materialize within the next 60 to 90 days. The Sept. 6 attack on Syria was the shot across Iran's bow.

So - what was attacked near Dayr az-Zawr? It's possible it was North Korean "nuclear material" recently shipped to Syria, i.e., stuff to make radioactively "dirty" warheads, but nothing to make a real nuke with as the Norks don't have real nukes (see Why North Korea's Nuke Test Is Such Good News, October 2006).

Another possibility is it was to take out a stockpile of long-range Zilzal surface-to-surface missiles recently shipped from Iran for an attack on Israel.

A third is it was a hit on the stockpile of Saddam's chemical/bio weapons snuck out of Iraq and into Syria for safekeeping before the US invasion of April 2003.

But the identity of the target is not the story - for the primary point of the attack was not to destroy that target. It was to shut down Syria's Russian air defense system during the attack. Doing so made the attack an incredible success.

Syria is shamed and silent. Iran is freaking out in panic. Defenseless enemies are fun.

http://www.ivanyi-consultants.com/articles/silence.html

I don't know how credible this story is, but if it is true, this changes the face of things... don't you think?

Bill
09-27-2007, 01:19 AM
I don't know how credible this story is, but if it is true, this changes the face of things... don't you think?

Changes them to what?

An attack on missles makes sense - if there was nuke evidence, I think we would have seen more evidence by now.

Fingers crossed, we'll get the big mideast war, WW3, happening pretty soon.

radioguy
09-27-2007, 01:48 AM
Changes them to what?

An attack on missles makes sense - if there was nuke evidence, I think we would have seen more evidence by now.

Fingers crossed, we'll get the big mideast war, WW3, happening pretty soon.

I think it changes the situation with Israel and Iran, not really with the US. I think it will serve to quell the aggression that Syria and Iran have been threatening against Israel.

Bill
09-27-2007, 03:03 AM
You genuinely believed that Iran and Syria were threatening some kind of direct attack?

That would be the most insane of all possible tactics. The only thing crazier would be to lob a missle with ABC warheads.

I think Iran correctly interprets the abuse given it's president a prelude to an air assault.

And both countries are now desperately pursuing the Iraqi concept - make your country a distibuted deathtrap for invaders. Copy hezbollahs successful defense against israel.

Shock and Awe demonstrated that an air asssault looks worse than it actually is.

But, I sure hope we get good televised feeds when we shock and awe tehran.

kittens
09-27-2007, 08:34 PM
Just because Iran says it will defend itself if attacked, Israel and its allies within the U.S. (neocons mainly) get apoplectic.

The warmongerers should be wary of not only the response from Iran but from the Chinese and the Russians. It would be a pity if China "called in" the debts we owe.

And for that reason we won't attack. Instead we'll be beat about the head by our controlled media with the "terrorist threat" represented by Iran. Fear-mongering supports the war effort.

We're on to any potential false flag terror attack that might be used as justification for an attack on Iran.

Remember the Maine!

Synthetic terror is a well-used tool of tyrannical governments.

TheCenturion
09-27-2007, 09:31 PM
SILENCE IN SYRIA, PANIC IN IRAN
Written by Dr. Jack Wheeler
Wednesday, 19 September 2007


One of India's top ranking generals assigned to liaise with the Iranian military recently returned to New Delhi from several days in Tehran - in a state of complete amazement.

"Everyone in the government and military can only talk of one thing," he reports. "No matter who I talked to, all they could do was ask me, over and over again, ‘Do you think the Americans will attack us?' ‘When will the Americans attack us?' ‘Will the Americans attack us in a joint operation with the Israelis?' How massive will the attack be?' on and on, endlessly. The Iranians are in a state of total panic."

And that was before September 6. Since then, it's panic-squared in Tehran. The mullahs are freaking out in fear. Why? Because of the silence in Syria.

On September 6, Israeli Air Force F-15 and F-16s conducted a devastating attack on targets deep inside Syria near the city of Dayr az-Zawr. Israel's military censors have muzzled the Israeli media, enforcing an extraordinary silence about the identity of the targets. Massive speculation in the world press has followed, such as Brett Stephens' Osirak II? in yesterday's (9/18) Wall St. Journal.

Stephens and most everyone else have missed the real story. It is not Israel's silence that "speaks volumes" as he claims, but Syria's. Why would the Syrian government be so tight-lipped about an act of war perpetrated on their soil?

The first half of the answer lies in this story that appeared in the Israeli media last month (8/13): Syria's Antiaircraft System Most Advanced In World. Syria has gone on a profligate buying spree, spending vast sums on Russian systems, "considered the cutting edge in aircraft interception technology."

Syria now "possesses the most crowded antiaircraft system in the world," with "more than 200 antiaircraft batteries of different types," some of which are so new that they have been installed in Syria "before being introduced into Russian operation service."

While you're digesting that, take a look at the map of Syria:

http://www.tothepointnews.com/images/stories/syria_map.jpg

Notice how far away Dayr az-Zawr is from Israel. An F15/16 attack there is not a tiptoe across the border, but a deep, deep penetration of Syrian airspace. And guess what happened with the Russian super-hyper-sophisticated cutting edge antiaircraft missile batteries when that penetration took place on September 6th.

Nothing.

El blanko. Silence. The systems didn't even light up, gave no indication whatever of any detection of enemy aircraft invading Syrian airspace, zip, zero, nada. The Israelis (with a little techie assistance from us) blinded the Russkie antiaircraft systems so completely the Syrians didn't even know they were blinded.

Now you see why the Syrians have been scared speechless. They thought they were protected - at enormous expense - only to discover they are defenseless. As in naked.

Thus the Great Iranian Freak-Out - for this means Iran is just as nakedly defenseless as Syria. I can tell you that there are a lot of folks in the Kirya (IDF headquarters in Tel Aviv) and the Pentagon right now who are really enjoying the mullahs' predicament. Let's face it: scaring the terror masters in Tehran out of their wits is fun.

It's so much fun, in fact, that an attack destroying Iran's nuclear facilities and the Revolutionary Guard command/control centers has been delayed, so that France (under new management) can get in on the fun too.

On Sunday (9/16), Sarkozy's foreign minister Bernard Kouchner announced that "France should prepare for the possibility of war over Iran's nuclear program."

All of this has caused Tehran to respond with maniacal threats. On Monday (9/17), a government website proclaimed that "600 Shihab-3 missiles" will be fired at targets in Israel in response to an attack upon Iran by the US/Israel. This was followed by Iranian deputy air force chief Gen. Mohammad Alavi announcing today (9/19) that "we will attack their (Israeli) territory with our fighter bombers as a response to any attack."

A sure sign of panic is to make a threat that everyone knows is a bluff. So our and Tel Aviv's response to Iranian bluster is a thank-you-for-sharing yawn and a laugh. Few things rattle the mullahs' cages more than a yawn and a laugh.

Yet no matter how much fun this sport with the mullahs is, it is also deadly serious. The pressure build-up on Iran is getting enormous. Something is going to blow and soon. The hope is that the blow-up will be internal, that the regime will implode from within.

But make no mistake: an all-out full regime take-out air assault upon Iran is coming if that hope doesn't materialize within the next 60 to 90 days. The Sept. 6 attack on Syria was the shot across Iran's bow.

So - what was attacked near Dayr az-Zawr? It's possible it was North Korean "nuclear material" recently shipped to Syria, i.e., stuff to make radioactively "dirty" warheads, but nothing to make a real nuke with as the Norks don't have real nukes (see Why North Korea's Nuke Test Is Such Good News, October 2006).

Another possibility is it was to take out a stockpile of long-range Zilzal surface-to-surface missiles recently shipped from Iran for an attack on Israel.

A third is it was a hit on the stockpile of Saddam's chemical/bio weapons snuck out of Iraq and into Syria for safekeeping before the US invasion of April 2003.

But the identity of the target is not the story - for the primary point of the attack was not to destroy that target. It was to shut down Syria's Russian air defense system during the attack. Doing so made the attack an incredible success.

Syria is shamed and silent. Iran is freaking out in panic. Defenseless enemies are fun.

http://www.ivanyi-consultants.com/articles/silence.html

I don't know how credible this story is, but if it is true, this changes the face of things... don't you think?

How does it change anything? Israel has been terrorizing it's neighbors and the indigenous Arab population for 60 years. Flouting International Law and outrageous provocations is the daily order of business for the Zionists. This is just one more reason for wiping Israel off the map so the Middle East and America can finally have some peace.

Jennifer
09-27-2007, 09:39 PM
Israel has been getting terrorized by it's Islamic neighbors ever since the Useless Nations created their nation so that the Europeans didn't have to have Jews in their nations anymore!

All Israel has ever done is try to defend itself, amid American, NATO and UN hamstringing.


If we would just stop telling Israel to not defend itself, they could own the Middle East and restore order and civility to the region. Probably do it in less then a week like they did the last time we let them defend themselves against the entire Middle East.

Linkster
09-27-2007, 09:49 PM
Guess youve never heard of the Irgun Zvai Leumi and Hashomar - talk about some terrorists
Look at it this way - at least Israel didnt end up on the end of Long Island where they first wanted to put it

Smurf-Herder
09-27-2007, 10:23 PM
I think the Iranians conned Assad into being point-man, with visions of the Golan dancing in his head. And now he's having second thoughts, seeing how naked he really is out there in front.

radioguy
09-27-2007, 10:46 PM
Guess youve never heard of the Irgun Zvai Leumi and Hashomar - talk about some terrorists
Look at it this way - at least Israel didnt end up on the end of Long Island where they first wanted to put it

Using your logic Linkster, I guess we should consider Germany an evil country today, because Hitler used to be the ruler there.

How about you confine your excuses to persecute Israel to things in recent history, not based on crap 60+ years ago.

TheCenturion
09-27-2007, 11:02 PM
Israel has been getting terrorized by it's Islamic neighbors ever since the Useless Nations created their nation so that the Europeans didn't have to have Jews in their nations anymore!

All Israel has ever done is try to defend itself, amid American, NATO and UN hamstringing.


If we would just stop telling Israel to not defend itself, they could own the Middle East and restore order and civility to the region. Probably do it in less then a week like they did the last time we let them defend themselves against the entire Middle East.


Ha! That's side splitting. Conducting the most flagrantly racist apartheid colonialist occupation and brutally repressive ethnic cleansing campaign since the Japanese invasion of Manchuria - all while being handed the keys to America's treasury for funding it is hardly grounds for a monopoly on "victim hood", no matter how desperately one engages in intellectual and moral myopia. But, it proves one thing: BT Barnum was right on target when he observed there's a sucker born every minute. In fact, it seems he was making a rather "conservative" observation.

Linkster
09-28-2007, 07:21 AM
radioguy - might wanna read jennifers post as she is asserting that all terrorism since the UN (actually it was the league of nations but Ill let that one slip) stepped in has been one sided - and toatlly ignores that the first terrorist acts were by Israel - not its islamic neighbors (which also shows her total lack of knowledge since it nothing to do with islamism - again Ill let it slide as she seems to be just repeating someone elses views without doing any fact-checking)

radioguy
09-28-2007, 08:11 AM
radioguy - might wanna read jennifers post as she is asserting that all terrorism since the UN (actually it was the league of nations but Ill let that one slip) stepped in has been one sided - and toatlly ignores that the first terrorist acts were by Israel - not its islamic neighbors (which also shows her total lack of knowledge since it nothing to do with islamism - again Ill let it slide as she seems to be just repeating someone elses views without doing any fact-checking)

Why don't you start a thread on that topic Linkster?

Or is derailing threads you can't deal with, your only function here?

Linkster
09-28-2007, 11:30 AM
radioguy - weve had many threads (about a year ago on that very topic) so starting a new one is counter-productive
Besides if you had read my post I was replying to another poster in this thread that made an inaccurate statement and only addressed you when you decided to undercut that reply - derailing would be actually changing the subject which is not something I did - simply pointing out a discrepancy