O'Reilly and Juan Williams Blast Media Matters and CNN for "Rank Dishonesty"

[radioguy]

It all started when Media Matters (the lame George Soros attempt to say the media isn't liberal biased) claimed Bill O'Reilly had made racist comments on his radio show. Then CNN picked this up and did a story claiming the same thing. Only problem is, O'Reilly did no such thing. His statements were taken out of context as usual, and Juan Williams (who was present at the time Bill made those comments on his show) appeared on the O'Reilly Factor to discuss the blatant dishonesty of that story.

Just in case you all don't know who Juan Williams is, he's a black man and chronicler of the civil rights movement who authored Eyes on The Prize, Thurgood Marshall—American Revolutionary, The Phony Leaders, Dead-End Movements, and Culture of Failure That Are Undermining Black America—and What We Can Do about It.

Here is the the clip from the O'Reilly Factor last night:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJhe00QSlBI

[Moby]

Say it isn't so. Bill O'Reilly is slamming one of his competitors. Well, if Bill says it then it must be true. :lmao2:

[disrupter]

O'Reilly is crying about people distorting the facts,

Rich Irony.

[TheCenturion]

Just in case you all don't know who Juan Williams is, he's a black man and chronicler of the civil rights movement who authored Eyes on The Prize, Thurgood Marshall—American Revolutionary, The Phony Leaders, Dead-End Movements, and Culture of Failure That Are Undermining Black America—and What We Can Do about It.

Here is the the clip from the O'Reilly Factor last night:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJhe00QSlBI

LOL.. That's good enough for me. A black man would never lie, especially a friend of Billie's.

[disrupter]

If Juan Williams says so it might be true,

but after all the misrepresentations from sex harassing O'Reilly it would be absurd to give it one iota of concern.

Beating a dead horse will not make it run,
O'Reilly's credibility to anyone sane is a dead horse.

begs the question, 'Juan, why do you degrade yourself by loitering with scum?'

[TheCenturion]

If Juan Williams says so it might be true,

but after all the misrepresentations from sex harassing O'Reilly it would be absurd to give it one iota of concern.

Beating a dead horse will not make it run,
O'Reilly's credibility to anyone sane is a dead horse.

begs the question, 'Juan, why do you degrade yourself by loitering with scum?'

Juan fulfills the same role as their other token "librul", Alan Colmes. This is a cynical ploy designed to provide, at least, a feeble pretense of "fairness" and "balance" Their real role is to be compliant shills and whipping boys for Zionist Owned Scum like the Pug Faced Twit "Pawn" Hannity and Bill "Bully Boy" OReilly.

[disrupter]

More a cast of cartoon characters than news reporters, you think?

[Bill]

Fox is the only news you need, eh radio?

Billo will wrap you in his big manly arms and keep you all safe from the mean old terrorists.

[radioguy]

Well, doesn't that sum up what the left is all about?

Not one of you addressed the fact that CNN and Media Matters used dishonesty to attack Bill O'Reilly. It is as usual, completely irrelevant to you people... The fact that the liberal media uses lies, that is.

Until you all on the left can take a stand against the use of lies to prop up your political agenda, you agenda will forever be seen as a joke, and your opinions seen as unimportant.

[Kinky Jones]

the problem is papa bear is a racist who doesnt know he is a racist because he is retarded...

http://news.aol.com/story/_a/group-slams-oreillys-race-comments/20070925232209990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001

there is the truth without any spin :thumbsup:

[Bill]

Not one of you addressed the fact that CNN and Media Matters used dishonesty to attack Bill O'Reilly.

If it's dishonest, we will soon know, because other real journalists will review the data. We are waiting to see what the consensus turns out to be.

Believing it's dishonest because Billo says it's dishonest makes no sense. To claim it's dishonest because Billo says it's dishonest is not the claim of an honest man.

Those who have commited improprieties always claim that no impropriety occured. Every rational person knows this.

[radioguy]

If it's dishonest, we will soon know, because other real journalists will review the data. We are waiting to see what the consensus turns out to be.

Believing it's dishonest because Billo says it's dishonest makes no sense. To claim it's dishonest because Billo says it's dishonest is not the claim of an honest man.

Those who have commited improprieties always claim that no impropriety occured. Every rational person knows this.

I base what I say on the fact that I listened to the 40 minute radio segment. It was an interview with LIBERAL pundit, civil rights activist & author Juan Williams. O'Reilly was engaged in a discussion with Williams about how many white people in America believe that the rap culture is what Black America is all about, and he talked about his lunch with Al Sharpton at a restaurant in Harlem. He was saying how the perception by many whites who don't have much interaction with blacks is all wrong, and he used his experience at a famous soul food restaurant in Harlem to drive that point home. Juan Williams was so incensed by the dishonesty of Media Matters and CNN depiction of O'Reilly's comments as "racist", that he appeared on the Factor to set the record straight.

But you people on the left will have nothing to do with honesty, now will you? You see a chance to score some political points, so you will embrace the lie, as you seem to always do.

You won't bother to listen to the radio show itself, which proves the MM/CNN story is bogus, nor will you take the word of a LIBERAL BLACK MAN who was there not only there, but was part of the actual conversation in question.

You can either prove me wrong, and denounce the slander, or you can prove me right and run with the lies. I'm giving 3 to 1 odds, that you aren't capable of embracing the truth over politics.

[Bill]

So, you're saying that the transcriptions published so far are false?

I figure we've all read the commonly published transcripts.

Personally, I really don't care, my issue is war, and oil, Billo can say whatever he wants about black restaurants, no skin off my nose.

But this claim of "honesty" intrigues me.

[Independent Harry]

grim has it in his head, that if he points out every time a liberal lies, he's building a case that all liberals are liars...and if that is true to him the converse also must be true that every time a liberal lies, it proves that the neo-cons tell the truth. So in his world, the more liberals lie, the more the neo cons tell the truth. It's really a deluded logic, and its interesting how someone can come to that conclusion purely from a psycho-analysis standpoint...

[radioguy]

Personally, I really don't care, my issue is war, and oil, Billo can say whatever he wants about black restaurants, no skin off my nose.

But this claim of "honesty" intrigues me.

You say you really don't care, yet you weighed in by questioning O'Reilly's honesty and whether we were to believe his claims, and at the same time didn't even consider the fact that the man he was interviewing stood up and said that the story was false.

What it seems to me you "don't care about", is discerning what the fact were, yet you did care enough to take the opportunity to get a few shots in at O'Reilly.

[Independent Harry]

You say you really don't care, yet you weighed in by questioning O'Reilly's honesty and whether we were to believe his claims, and at the same time didn't even consider the fact that the man he was interviewing stood up and said that the story was false.

What it seems to me you "don't care about", is discerning what the fact were, yet you did care enough to take the opportunity to get a few shots in at O'Reilly.

Why do we care at all, all these people do is take opportunities to take shots at each other, refer to m above post, just because O'reilly is right one time, doesnt' mean he doesn't have a string of lies and slander behind him...

[radioguy]

Why do we care at all, all these people do is take opportunities to take shots at each other, refer to m above post, just because O'reilly is right one time, doesnt' mean he doesn't have a string of lies and slander behind him...

My overall point here is nothing new, especially to you Harry. You have known me for quite a while now and probably have a good Idea the things that get under my skin.

The main point is that this is another example of the liberal bias in the main stream American media. Before any of you try and debate me on this, please present stories that show a bias toward conservatives, to counter the literally hundreds of examples over the last 5 or 6 years that back up my belief.

It is just so ridiculous that ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, CNN, MSNBC, The NY Times, Washington Post, Newsweek, Time and NPR all present things from a decidedly liberal perspective. America is supposed to be a society that is the most informed in the world, yet the average American doesn't even realize that what they see on their nightly newscast and in their morning paper, isn't the unvarnished truth they believe it to be. When 80% or more of the reporters, editors and producers in the news business are liberals themselves, it taints the story's they present, and plays a major part in what stories they choose to present.

That isn't how it should be. Americans have a right to know all the events taking place in the country and in the world, not just what liberals deem news worthy. And they also deserve to know both sides of a story, not just the pro-democrat/anti-republican side.

I don't expect anyone on the left to push for a more fair media in America, just as I'm sure I wouldn't if the situation were reversed. But I do expect at least a little bit of intellectual honesty when that bias is pointed out.

Or is that too much to ask for?

[Independent Harry]

My overall point here is nothing new, especially to you Harry. You have known me for quite a while now and probably have a good Idea the things that get under my skin.

The main point is that this is another example of the liberal bias in the main stream American media. Before any of you try and debate me on this, please present stories that show a bias toward conservatives, to counter the literally hundreds of examples over the last 5 or 6 years that back up my belief.

It is just so ridiculous that ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, CNN, MSNBC, The NY Times, Washington Post, Newsweek, Time and NPR all present things from a decidedly liberal perspective. America is supposed to be a society that is the most informed in the world, yet the average American doesn't even realize that what they see on their nightly newscast and in their morning paper, isn't the unvarnished truth they believe it to be. When 80% or more of the reporters, editors and producers in the news business are liberals themselves, it taints the story's they present, and plays a major part in what stories they choose to present.

That isn't how it should be. Americans have a right to know all the events taking place in the country and in the world, not just what liberals deem news worthy. And they also deserve to know both sides of a story, not just the pro-democrat/anti-republican side.

I don't expect anyone on the left to push for a more fair media in America, just as I'm sure I wouldn't if the situation were reversed. But I do expect at least a little bit of intellectual honesty when that bias is pointed out.

Or is that too much to ask for?

You know what i find amusingly duplistic, the Jewish owner of the media are most often decidedly liberal themselves. Ponder that one if you can...

[radioguy]

You know what i find amusingly duplistic, the Jewish owner of the media are most often decidedly liberal themselves. Ponder that one if you can...

I do ponder that, and it makes absolutely no sense at all. :disbelief:

[Bill]

What it seems to me you "don't care about", is discerning what the fact were, yet you did care enough to take the opportunity to get a few shots in at O'Reilly.

I note that you avoided addressing the key question.

I posted this:

Fox is the only news you need, eh radio?

Billo will wrap you in his big manly arms and keep you all safe from the mean old terrorists.

to express scorn at your transparent attempt to amplify your master's voice; note that there isn't a hint of concern about black anything in those words.

If you want to defend Billo, go ahead, make your arguments, show your evidence.

It looks like you don't really have any evidence, you're just trying to muddy up the debate by throwing a tantrum and claiming your critics are biased.

[Bill]

Let me explain this a little further.

If you had posted this topic, and said something real and personal and direct about why you felt Billo was getting a raw deal, I'd have ignored the thread and let you argue it out with folks who cared.

That's what I'd like you to do, radioguy. Act more like a straightforward, reasonable human being in your posts, not like the thought police.

You can say, those lefties are just as bad, and there is some validity to that - but it wasn't this nasty before you got here.

Just mellow out a little. Yes, I can see you're all pissed off and you just hate liberals. But don't you believe in being a decent and neighborly human being?

[Independent Harry]

I do ponder that, and it makes absolutely no sense at all. :disbelief:

Especially since they are the ones that got us into the Iraq war in the first place, amazing eh, here's where it makes sense...the neo conservative people you hold so dear, are actually taa dahh libruls...here's the proof...

The forerunners of neoconservatism were often liberals or socialists who strongly supported World War II, and who were influenced by the Depression-era ideas of former New Dealers, trade unionists, and Trotskyists, particularly those who followed the political ideas of Max Shachtman[citation needed]. A number of future neoconservatives, such as Jeane Kirkpatrick, were Shachtmanites in their youth; some were later involved with Social Democrats USA[citation needed].

Some of the mid-20th Century New York Intellectuals were forebears of neoconservatism. The most notable was literary critic Lionel Trilling, who wrote, "In the United States at this time liberalism is not only the dominant but even the sole intellectual tradition." It was this liberal "vital center," a term coined by the historian and liberal theorist Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr., that the neoconservatives would see as threatened by New Left extremism. But the majority of "vital center" liberals remained affiliated with the Democratic Party, retained left-of-center viewpoints, and opposed Republican politicians such as Richard Nixon who first attracted neoconservative support.[citation needed]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservative#History_and_origins

So the party you hold so dear, the shapes your everyday thoughts, actually stems from liberals, and still to this day holds many liberal beliefs (such as large government, and welfare only it's welfare for large corporations and not the destitute)

Wow, now once you've read that, i'll wait for your head to implode...

[Independent Harry]

I note that you avoided addressing the key question.

I posted this:

Fox is the only news you need, eh radio?

Billo will wrap you in his big manly arms and keep you all safe from the mean old terrorists.

to express scorn at your transparent attempt to amplify your master's voice; note that there isn't a hint of concern about black anything in those words.

If you want to defend Billo, go ahead, make your arguments, show your evidence.

It looks like you don't really have any evidence, you're just trying to muddy up the debate by throwing a tantrum and claiming your critics are biased.

lol, he always does that...it makes him feel more superior when he avoids things that damage his credibility...

[disrupter]

Bill O'Reilly told a radio audience he "couldn't get over the fact" that there was no difference between the black-run Sylvia's and other restaurants.http://news.aol.com/story/_a/group-slams-oreillys-race-comments/20070925232209990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001

Let me try to break this down as simply as possible so radioguy will comprehend it.

Initially, When he compares vile rap type lyrics to the actual discourse of black societies & business that is not a racial contrast. it is a contrast between popular culture images & real society & culture of blacks.

BUT when he compares a black restaurant to an italian restaurant in an all-white neighborhood & is so profoundly surprised they are about the same,
this is an explicit revelation of his innate racist expectations.
It may be the statement of a racist discovering the falseness of his racist expectations, but it is still racist and STUPID

It is AMAZING just how densely stupid the right wing is.
Is it any wonder they can't manage foreign policy or war or the budget or government?

God how can a human being be so STUPID?

Racist: arbitrary, unfounded, divergent expectations purely along racial divides.

I think the Vegas odds for human survival to the end of the century just dropped to 25%

[radioguy]

I note that you avoided addressing the key question.

I posted this:

Fox is the only news you need, eh radio?

Billo will wrap you in his big manly arms and keep you all safe from the mean old terrorists.

to express scorn at your transparent attempt to amplify your master's voice; note that there isn't a hint of concern about black anything in those words.

If you want to defend Billo, go ahead, make your arguments, show your evidence.

It looks like you don't really have any evidence, you're just trying to muddy up the debate by throwing a tantrum and claiming your critics are biased.

I don't listen to O'Reilly's radio show, and very rarely watch Bill O'Reilly's show on FOX. I am not defending O'Reilly because I am a fan of the man, I'm defending him because he did nothing wrong, and did not make racist remarks as the some in the liberal media are claiming. What led me to my conclusion, was simply listening to the 40 minute audio from the mans show. The evidence is right there for anyone who wants to know the truth. I presented the video clip of his guest on the show in question, who stated that the story from MM and CNN was absolutely false and taken out of context.

This my friend is not an attempt to muddy anything, it is proof for those who are capable of seeing it... Or in this case, hearing it.

I have made my conclusion based on the only evidence that exists, while you are the one who stated that you would wait for the media to render a conclusion for you, so don't lecture me pal.

[disrupter]

Wow, my opinion of Juan Williams just hit the floor.

what an ass kisser.

now we know why FAUX keeps him on the payroll.

[radioguy]

Let me break it down to you disrupter...

You took your excerpt of what O'Reilly said completely out of context, just like the little clip you got it from did. It comes down to this:

DID YOU LISTEN TO THE ENTIRE SEGMENT OF THAT SHOW?

The answer is either "No", you didn't, or "YES" you did.

If you say "NO", you are only an ignorant fool who is too lazy to seek out the truth, and takes his beliefs from liberal talking points.

If you say "YES" you did listen to it, then you are simply a liar...

So disrupter, which is it?

And here (http://billoreilly.com/blog?action=viewBlog&blogID=-514007249730622364) is the segment for anyone interested in the truth. I fear that will be few if any who have any regard for the truth here.

[disrupter]

Taken out of context it is offensive.
In context it is a kind of mild patronizing,
another white person trying to 'prove' they aren't racist.

Sort of a waste of time. If someone wants to spend forever going on about race & the horrors of racism on their time, so be it, but i am kind of hoping the Universe has a whole lot of other additional variety in other subjects to keep it interesting.

I'm racist? I'm not racist? does it really matter? It's the Universe that calls the shots for the most part.
The Universe provides no brownie points for being racist or non-racist.
There is no moral paradigm of the Universe, only in religious-mythological or social fantasies or delusions.

It is, however, strange what a high priority our society has ended up placing upon being perfectly non-racist, especially for caucasians. As though it were the sole criteria of ethical evaluation. I guess sex & genes do run deeper & more complicated than i would naturally care to bother with. Thank God i'm gay.

I think sometimes people, even scientists are a bit too quick to dismiss racial variance for social acceptability reasons. Historically it has of course been vastly, ridiculously overplayed. Of course even now we see the same demonization of Iran & iranians or Islam to sell the idea of attacking them with little or no provocation.

If you live in the Universe like it is for real, & for the most part i do,
you know the only criteria that matters is objective criteria.
The individual variance between individuals of any race are so wide & race so subtle that the only practical, sensible way of evaluating people you work with regularly is individually. Am i going to make assumptions based on a one ounce quantity of race or the 2 pounds of individual characteristics? Expediency & Efficiency demand i focus on the 2 pounds.

Perhaps racial characteristics have more predominance with higher populations. Like it is discrete types of social linking where lots of use of particular link types [or two different types in combination] has more profound effects. [that might be interesting to look into] ie. like you have the a flange social connector, the b flange the c, etc [in combo a-a, b-b, a-b, a-c etc]
and the way they link affects the way the social fabric either ripples, folds, tears or bends from convolutions from the environment [darn, i might be on to something here, . . . well maybe. Even if not along racial lines just descriptions of social connections & fabric characteristics. something for later]

They mapped the human genome & found we were 99.9% the same, but that was only comparing the identifiable 'genes'. Now we find the formerly non-gene DNA does have effects & chimpanzes are more than 98% different & the differences between people & probably race will likely be greater than 0.01%.

There is something in talking about 'racism' that is so draining.
Like trying to thread a needle with giant mittens on.
Seems to me there are so many better things, more productive things on which to focus, that unless you see obvious identifiable racism you should let it slide.

Racism tends to get most highly focused on 'white' people. Almost like a favorite way of torturing whites. It is almost easier to say 'I am racist, so deal with it.' What we really are though is familia genetically & culturally favoring of people like us. I know i feel more comfortable with some people of color than some strange suburban white radical neocon [who has lost touch with rational reality].

I really do think you neocons are brain damaged.

I seriously think you risk the future of mankind & all advanced species.

The point of preserving genetic diversity in a species means it has more tricks/tools of adaptation in its box when disruptions in the environment occur.
But the idea of robustness has to be balanced with the ability to go off on stray tangents [of genetics &/or intellect] that may [likely] be fruitful & beneficial, maybe very much so. Ultimately we will all be obsolete by some evolving standards of the progress of species.

I will never apologize for being 'white' [norwegian-french] nor will i willingly have my genes altered just because it might offend YOUR delicate sensibilities.

Life is far too short to spend excess energy 'proving' one isn't a racist.

I suppose O'Reilly gets paid to do it, i don't.

[Linkster]

People in this country have to get over themselves - getting offended at the drop of a hat by what anyone says is ridiculous - in a country that preaches free speech - if you dont like it - dont watch or listen to it - real simple. Stop wasting everybody elses time with drivel

As Robert D Raford says - This country has become the United States of the Offended

[Independent Harry]

I'm offended at you for calling my offendedness a wast of everyone's time...

[radioguy]

disrupter, your a typical leftist who is incapable of backing up your crap. I asked you a simple question: Did you, or did you not listen to the entire segment of O'Reilly's show?

You didn't have the guts to answer it.

[Linkster]

waaaahhhhhh :taunt:

[disrupter]

I listened long enough to hear both of the excerpted spots in context.

No i don't think he is a raging racist.

He is just like a lot of lefties, working hard to 'prove' he isn't racist.
He isn't even particularly condescending, just mildly patronizing.

The point people of the left & right miss is 'proving' you aren't racist is focusing in on race which makes it fundamentally oxymoronic.

At some point proving you aren't something is a kind of neurosis. I already have other neuroses, i certainly don't need that one too, lol.

I refuse to listen to ALL of a whole 2 hours of guys hyping themselves as though their opinions mattered so much. Endless hours harping on about pure opinion is just running your mouth, regardless of one's political, ideological or whatever stripe. Is it ok if i estimate that these guys are not going to come up with some awesome, dazzling, brilliant insight on the air?
There may be, on rare occasions, people worth holding your breath for, but IMO these ain't them, ok?

Please, actual news, actual content, with an opinionated slant if you want.

I realize all talk radio has x-number of hours to fill, & they have to make it all sound like it is something to attract viewers/listeners, but admit it, a lot of it is running mouths to fill airtime. I guess some people think of O'Reilly & others as religion or something, but i don't.
I probably wouldn't want to hear Al Franken for hours on end either.
& while i agree with a lot of his politics, i personally didn't think much of his comedic skills. Dennis Miller is only marginally more funny. Occasionally he could make me laugh, but he was too caustic & maybe too self-absorbed for me to enjoy.

These guys are all about personality, taking themselves & their opinions seriously. If that winds your clock, excellent. I prefer both comedy where the content itself is funny.

They may take themselves seriously, BUT I CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE TO. lol
They may love themselves, but please don't even try to suggest that i am required to.

I think it must be some kind of male bonding thing,
everyone shooting the shit as a kind of warm fuzzy feel good thing where we can all think we are the same at the core.

Me, i rather like being different. I may not achieve it, but being brilliantly, radically arbitrarily different & distinct is what plucks at the strings of this heart.

I am not sure how i would deal with a group if i thought they were highly intelligent. I suppose i would like to join or at least interact/communicate with that group.

Strong opinions are not necessarily brilliant nor correct opinions,
in fact i think the less the certainty of an opinion, the more likely it is to be correct & visa versa. Real intelligence & insight is earned, it almost without exception is not a gift from god or nature. Use it or lose it.

I do run my opinions here in forum, but i like to think i am sorting through my thinking, both for content as well as form.
I know much of it is pure self indugence, but i at least hope i have occasional insights.

Form may convince people, but without content it is empty packaging.
Some people fall in love with form so much they delude themselves that there is any content.

form for its own sake can be lovely, brilliant mechanics, dazzling seductive hypnotic movement, but if it doesn't serve any good hearted purpose it is like a kind of necrophila, eroticism without reciprocity. Even if you don't think that is sick, it must be awfully lonely.

Loving the uniform, occupied by a corpse.

[Bill]

I didn't see the issue as being about race.

The issue, the critical factor, is the "demo".

Will Billo's words be seen as an offense by the demo, such that sales are hurt.

This is about corporate image control.

[disrupter]

he is radioguy's hero.

so lets be gentle, ok.

lol

Besides, how many current or future black or racially sensitive listeners is this going to lose him?

somewhere between zero & none.

Tempest in a teapot anyone?

these poor, poor victimized neocons

we can make them presentable for sympathy seminars after they wash the blood of a million dead Iraqis & 3800 US military off of them.

[Kinky Jones]

"I went to an Aretha Franklin concert, the crowd was 50/50, the blacks were dressed nicely"

another non-racist quote from papa bear, how those blacks got nice clothes nobody knows!

typical retarded republican BS defending a racist who is too stupid to know he is a racist or at best an insensitive prick, funny how you will try to paint clinton as a sexual predator when billy boy actually had to pay off his victim of sexual predation :disbelief:

way to defend scumbags on the right :thumbsup:

[radioguy]

"I went to an Aretha Franklin concert, the crowd was 50/50, the blacks were dressed nicely"

another non-racist quote from papa bear, how those blacks got nice clothes nobody knows!

typical retarded republican BS defending a racist who is too stupid to know he is a racist or at best an insensitive prick, funny how you will try to paint clinton as a sexual predator when billy boy actually had to pay off his victim of sexual predation :disbelief:

way to defend scumbags on the right :thumbsup:

What a lying sack of shit you are... Do you work for Media Matters? You have once again taken what was said completely out of context, but like i always say...

Liberal is, as liberal does

[Kinky Jones]

What a lying sack of shit you are... Do you work for Media Matters? You have once again taken what was said completely out of context, but like i always say...

Liberal is, as liberal does

wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh fuck you you retarded asshole a racist is a racist is a racist... you previously stated you aint a racist here, just like billy boy, you a racist too?

[disrupter]

And Stupid is as Stupid does,

you have that one nailed, radioguy.

if you could get just a little more worked up about the whole thing maybe your head would implode?

[Linkster]

Again - just an example of trying to play with words - until Bill O plays the entire tape on his own show to frame the context - no one will believe him - and he refuses to do that

[Independent Harry]

What a lying sack of shit you are... Do you work for Media Matters? You have once again taken what was said completely out of context, but like i always say...

Liberal is, as liberal does

Youre the most racist person on this board, you look at any one that is muslim as a threat and they too you would all be better off dead, you have made that abundandly clear. Well, sorry you are 2nd to Frankieg. And don't give me that Dchristie bull, he is a racist too, I'm talking about you, don't start pointing fingers at other people saying all the bad things they do. It doesn't justify any of the shit that you believe.

[radioguy]

Again - just an example of trying to play with words - until Bill O plays the entire tape on his own show to frame the context - no one will believe him - and he refuses to do that

He has refused nothing... You want to hear the entire fucking show pal?

Here ya go

http://billoreilly.com/blog?action=viewBlog&blogID=-514007249730622364

[radioguy]

Youre the most racist person on this board, you look at any one that is muslim as a threat and they too you would all be better off dead, you have made that abundandly clear. Well, sorry you are 2nd to Frankieg. And don't give me that Dchristie bull, he is a racist too, I'm talking about you, don't start pointing fingers at other people saying all the bad things they do. It doesn't justify any of the shit that you believe.

Please post some of the things that I have said that prove this.

You won't of course, because it is pure bullshit and you will now prove this by either running away, or not presenting anything to back your claim.

[Independent Harry]

Please post some of the things that I have said that prove this.

You won't of course, because it is pure bullshit and you will now prove this by either running away, or not presenting anything to back your claim.

Sorry grim, i'm not sorting through 4,000 some odd posts of yours on scam.com, everyone knows you are racist against all liberals, you spend 99% of your time denouncing everything they do and acting like liberals are the vermin of the earth. You also are racist against muslims, and it's easy to see in the way you speak as if they are not people. You want an accurate estimate, post the Headline on Scam.com and here, AM I A RACIST and ask the question. You will see your proof easily...

[Linkster]

Just to appease you I went and listened to it again - and he is definitely racist - my opinion - and thats all - Im not offended by it - you arent going to change my mind with rants
However - that said - I would think that if he really wants to put this whole thing to bed - all he has to do is play the excerpt of this show and make a comment on it and hopefully the rest of the media will stop being offended

[asroc]

ian checking in here

[radioguy]

ian checking in here

Welcome Ian

[Independent Harry]

Welcome Ian

look whose ignoring who now...lol, you always back off first grim...and don't respond until you're goaded into it.

[Cat slave]

I think its more of a case that Grim can walk and chew gum at the same time.

[Smurf-Herder]

I don't watch O'Reilly or Olbermann, for the same reasons.

But as far as I'm concerned, anything that comes out of Media Matter for America, Code Pink, MoveOn and others are nothing but George Soros funded leftist propaganda.

[disrupter]

They don't need to be funded by Soros,
they are staffed by people who actually give a damn about America & Americas & Humanity & the Planet.

You are the ones who have bought into the corporate agenda & are funded by criminals.