View Full Version : Today's "Inconvenient Truth": Al Gore Lied, James J. Lee Died
Mike D.
09-02-2010, 10:27 PM
http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jjmnolte/2010/09/02/todays-inconvenient-truth-al-gore-lied-jason-jay-lee-died/
By John Nolte
At a gut level most left-wing environmentalists know that they’re liars. Intellectually they might have somehow convinced themselves that Mother Earth is in some sort of man-made peril, but deep down inside where the truth won’t be denied, these liars know they’re lying — know that the “green movement” is all about a sinister political agenda to put them in the position of insect overlords in charge of we rubes who stubbornly refuse to let go of the idea that Marxism is a bad thing.
This isn’t true for all of them. Ed Begley Jr. walks the walk, and there are everyday tree-huggers scattered throughout America quietly attempting to make work a sustainable lifestyle. You can smell them from here. But most environmentalists are lying liars who know they’re lying. Because if you honestly believe man is destroying the planet, that the apocalypse is nigh, you prepare for it. Most coastal elites are Global Warming believers and yet Global Warming, we’re told, will make the oceans rise to the point that will someday put much of the coast, especially Manhattan underwater. So why aren’t coastal elites moving inland? Why aren’t they pulling a Lex Luthor and buying up all that cheap property that will someday be the new coast? And why do they continue to burn fossil fuels, enjoy air conditioning, and otherwise consume? Because deep down inside they know what we know: it’s all bullshit Socialism disguised as nonsense.
People who believe, truly believe that an environmental apocalypse – be it through increased temperatures, a rise in sea levels, or super-hurricanes — is imminent, act as though it’s imminent. They don’t live in big, fancy, air-conditioned homes propped precariously on the side of the Hollywood Hills and purchased through the dividends of an unnecessary energy-burning, landfill-filling industry. They don’t run up incredible electric bills. They don’t purchase second homes large enough to house Michelle Obama’s entourage.
However, after an “awakening,” courtesy of former Vice President Al Gore’s wildly inaccurate propaganda-horror film, “An Inconvenient Truth,” James J. Lee believed.
Let’s keep in mind that “An Inconvenient Truth” is not a work of fiction. Well, at least it’s not presented as such. Al Gore’s Academy Award-winning documentary is not “The Day After Tomorrow.” Hollywoodists, using the mighty propaganda power found in the sound and fury of the modern day motion picture, brought a Vice President of the United States before the world to inform us that man was killing the planet.
And yesterday, someone who took that film at its word, who took Al Gore at his word, acted on it. James J. Lee might have been crazy as Ed Schultz at a Glenn Beck rally … but he believed. And if you believe, truly believe in Al Gore’s doomsday scenario, it’s not hard to convince yourself that going Jack Bauer — employing extra-legal and violent methods — for the greater good of Gaia is a moral and even a heroic choice. A better example might be John Brown, the fanatical abolitionist who committed horrible crimes in the noble cause of freeing the slaves. But at the time, slavery was a very real evil. Al Gore’s doomsday scenario is not.
Not for a second do I believe that Al Gore or anyone involved in the creation of “An Inconvenient Truth” wanted or even imagined that someday someone would strap on explosives, walk into a building with a daycare center, and take hostages in the hopes of terrorizing a cable outlet into creating more programming similar to “An Inconvenient Truth.” Nor do I believe that they — or anyone — is responsible for lunatics who take political messaging to a violent extreme.
But Gore and Co. are consciously and purposefully using the most powerful propaganda device ever created to spread self-serving lies in the hopes of scaring us into voting for the kind of government that will give the elite more control over our lives. And so there’s simply no getting around the fact that had these people (and their media minions) inspired with the truth instead of a lie, yesterday’s tragedy might not have happened.
Parade Rain
09-02-2010, 10:28 PM
:lmao2: :lmao2:
Yes, it's ALL AL GORE'S FAULT.
:lmao2: :lmao2:
doctordog
09-02-2010, 10:31 PM
:lmao2: :lmao2:
Yes, it's ALL AL GORE'S FAULT.
:lmao2: :lmao2:
Just like Kmart was responsible for Columbine?
Mike D.
09-02-2010, 10:33 PM
Parade didn't even read the article or he would have seen where Nolte didn't hold Gore personally responsible.
Parade Rain
09-02-2010, 10:35 PM
Parade didn't even read the article or he would have seen where Nolte didn't hold Gore personally responsible.
Why would I even bother reading mindless tripe from a known liar with zero credibility? Apparently his cred ranks with you and your ilk. Speaks volumes for the person who finds this crap worthy of c/p'ing. :lmao2:
It's all Al Gore's fault!!! Waaaahhhh!!
:lmao2: :lmao2:
Mike D.
09-02-2010, 10:39 PM
Why would I even bother reading mindless tripe from a known liar with zero credibility? Apparently his cred ranks with you and your ilk. Speaks volumes for the person who finds this crap worthy of c/p'ing. :lmao2:
It's all Al Gore's fault!!! Waaaahhhh!!
:lmao2: :lmao2:
Your consistency is refreshing(ly simple).
doctordog
09-02-2010, 10:40 PM
Parade didn't even read the article or he would have seen where Nolte didn't hold Gore personally responsible.
She is just a troll plain and simple. Rumblevillains must be dead again tonight. Let's see:
Most users ever online was 106, 03-14-2010 at 01:59 PM.
Brian_W, chambers92, dadakarma, jdanton, Ouroboros, oykuse, Refuge51, slowhand, W.M.DEEEZ
yep, dead
Parade Rain
09-02-2010, 10:41 PM
Your consistency is refreshing(ly simple).
And your credibility standards are abysmally, predictably low.
Mike D.
09-02-2010, 10:42 PM
She is just a troll plain and simple. Rumblevillains must be dead again tonight. Let's see:
Most users ever online was 106, 03-14-2010 at 01:59 PM.
Brian_W, chambers92, dadakarma, jdanton, Ouroboros, oykuse, Refuge51, slowhand, W.M.DEEEZ
yep, dead
Deader than a crowd at an Al Sharpton rally.
Mike D.
09-02-2010, 10:42 PM
And your credibility standards are abysmally, predictably low.
The only people you find credible are those who agree with you.
Speaking of "convenient."
MintJulep
09-02-2010, 10:43 PM
Parade didn't even read the article or he would have seen where Nolte didn't hold Gore personally responsible.The left has spent every moment trying to pin every act of violence and terrorism on the eeee-ville, violent, waycist Tea Party. A left-wing enviro-freak took action due to Gore's fraudulent fairytale. No way around that fact.
Parade Rain
09-02-2010, 10:45 PM
Too bad none of your assertions has anything to do with Brietbart's complete absence of credibility, Mint. :lmao2: :lmao2:
Mike D.
09-02-2010, 10:46 PM
The left has spent every moment trying to pin every act of violence and terrorism on the eeee-ville, violent, waycist Tea Party. A left-wing enviro-freak took action due to Gore's fraudulent fairytale. No way around that fact.
Right on.
Every time someone remotely conservative does something the Left is on it. But when a clearly self-described Leftist goes ape-shit, they abandon him. :disbelief:
Parade Rain
09-02-2010, 10:48 PM
Right on.
Every time someone remotely conservative does something the Left is on it. But when a clearly self-described Leftist goes ape-shit, they abandon him. :disbelief:
R-i--i-i-i-g-h-t. 'Cuz leftists are always complaining about anchor baby filth and immigration pollution.
Go buy a clue, idiot.
doctordog
09-02-2010, 10:51 PM
R-i--i-i-i-g-h-t. 'Cuz leftists are always complaining about anchor baby filth and immigration pollution.
Go buy a clue, idiot.
I agree, the left loves living in filth like pigs in shit. The more cockroaches the better!
Mike D.
09-02-2010, 11:00 PM
R-i--i-i-i-g-h-t. 'Cuz leftists are always complaining about anchor baby filth and immigration pollution.
Go buy a clue, idiot.
Nice spin.
The Left is the side who supports eugenics and agrees (among themselves) that humans are "destroying the earth."
They also gave Al Gore--Lee's inspiration--an Oscar for his propoganda movie.
Parade Rain
09-02-2010, 11:13 PM
Nice spin.
The Left is the side who supports eugenics and agrees (among themselves) that humans are "destroying the earth."
They also gave Al Gore--Lee's inspiration--an Oscar for his propoganda movie.
Yawn. Is this your idea of a 'debate' thread? :lmao2:
Mike D.
09-02-2010, 11:15 PM
Yawn. Is this your idea of a 'debate' thread? :lmao2:
Like Al Gore famously said: "The debate is over."
The facts are in. No need to debate.
James Lee was inspired to action by Al Gore.
Own it.
Parade Rain
09-02-2010, 11:16 PM
Like Al Gore famously said: "The debate is over."
The facts are in. No need to debate.
James Lee was inspired to action by Al Gore.
Own it.
Who cares?? He's nuts. 'Nuts' is what inspired him, dummy.
doctordog
09-02-2010, 11:17 PM
Who cares?? He's nuts. 'Nuts' is what inspired him, dummy.
That is what inspires most liberals.:thumbsup:
Mike D.
09-02-2010, 11:19 PM
Who cares?? He's nuts. 'Nuts' is what inspired him, dummy.
Yes. One of the biggest nuts of all:
http://newsbusters.org/static/2009/12/Al%20Gore%20Cancels%20$1,200%20Per%20Handshake%20E vent%20In%20Copenhagen.jpg
MintJulep
09-02-2010, 11:20 PM
Like Al Gore famously said: "The debate is over."
The facts are in. No need to debate.
James Lee was inspired to action by Al Gore.
Own it. :thumbsup:
Yep. Wonder when Pelosi and the powers that be will come out and denounce Gore's incitement to violence?
Mike D.
09-02-2010, 11:23 PM
:thumbsup:
Yep. Wonder when Pelosi and the powers that be will come out and denounce Gore's incitement to violence?
Probably around October when they pull their heads out of each other's butts and realize they are one month away from being unemployed.
MintJulep
09-02-2010, 11:25 PM
Probably around October when they pull their heads out of each other's butts and realize they are one month away from being unemployed. :lmao2:
And it can't get here fast enough.
T-Cat
09-03-2010, 12:31 AM
Parade didn't even read the article or he would have seen where Nolte didn't hold Gore personally responsible.So what is the actual value of this article?
Gore of course isn't responsible since he never suggests violence or harming people as a solution.
Meanwhile this rightwing putz ends his article with a giant lie as Anthropogenic Climate Change is happening and the results of which are going to be very harmful. So you think this article is useful because?
Mike D.
09-03-2010, 12:32 AM
So what is the actual value of this article?
Gore of course isn't responsible since he never suggests violence or harming people as a solution.
Meanwhile this rightwing putz ends his article with a giant lie as Anthropogenic Climate Change is happening and the results of which are going to be very harmful. So you think this article is useful because?
T you are far too late to crash the party. All of the liquor has been consumed. All of the pizza eaten. There are only ugly girls left.
T-Cat
09-03-2010, 12:34 AM
T you are far too late to crash the party. All of the liquor has been consumed. All of the pizza eaten. There are only ugly girls left.I see, you can't explain why your cut and pasted article has any value. Probably because it doesn't have any. It's a typical piece of shit.
dsolo802
09-03-2010, 12:38 AM
I see, you can't explain why your cut and pasted article has any value. Probably because it doesn't have any. It's a typical piece of shit.I'm with the smoking cat. What he said!
Mike D.
09-03-2010, 12:41 AM
I see, you can't explain why your cut and pasted article has any value. Probably because it doesn't have any. It's a typical piece of shit.
You and Purple Rain ought to go into psychiatry; you both make a habit of telling other people their intentions.
Why I posted the article is obvious. Every time some conservative-leaning wackjob does something wacky the Left is on it like stink on poop. It's just nice to stick the shoe on the other foot every once and awhile. Therapy.
The guy said he was inspired by Al Gore. Inspired.
No one is saying we need to throw our garbage in the streets and burn tires for the hell of it. Quit being such a literalist all the time.
Mike D.
09-03-2010, 12:42 AM
I'm with the smoking cat. What he said!
What a surprise... another psychiatrist is in the house.
doctordog
09-03-2010, 12:44 AM
What a surprise... another psychiatrist is in the house.
cheerleader in a tree house, they roam in packs
Parade Rain
09-03-2010, 12:45 AM
You and Purple Rain ought to go into psychiatry; you both make a habit of telling other people their intentions.
Show me where I give a rat's ass about your intentions. I made an accurate assessment of your steaming turd masquerading as a debate topic.
Why I posted the article is obvious. Every time some conservative-leaning wackjob does something wacky the Left is on it like stink on poop. It's just nice to stick the shoe on the other foot every once and awhile. Therapy.
Basically, nana-nana boo-boo is your reason for posting the article. Some therapy you have there! :lmao2:
The guy said he was inspired by Al Gore. Inspired.
Yes, and the guy was nuts. Son of Sam said the dog was talking to him. Does that mean the dog was actually talking to him?
You don't get out much, do ya Mike? :lmao2:
dsolo802
09-03-2010, 12:46 AM
What a surprise... another psychiatrist is in the house.Mike D, Al Gore is not mocked as being Al Bore for nuthin'. Mr. Exciting he is not. Even less so Mr. Inciting. Facts are facts.
T-Cat
09-03-2010, 12:48 AM
You and Purple Rain ought to go into psychiatry; you both make a habit of telling other people their intentions.Don't lie Mike, I never mentioned your intentions or said what they were. I said what you couldn't do and probably why you couldn't.
Why I posted the article is obvious. Every time some conservative-leaning wackjob does something wacky the Left is on it like stink on poop. It's just nice to stick the shoe on the other foot every once and awhile. Therapy.
The guy said he was inspired by Al Gore. Inspired.People are "inspired" by all sorts of things and sometimes do violence or other harmful things. But if the inspiration doesn't suggest, imply, or incite violence, well then making a deal out of the inspiration is rather silly.
No one is saying we need to throw our garbage in the streets and burn tires for the hell of it. Quit being such a literalist all the time.Who said you were? Stick to the actual topic. The author of this article is full of shit.
The moron who wrote the article is lying. He states if Gore wasn't lying then yesterday's tragedy might not have happened. This is flat out bullshit.
T-Cat
09-03-2010, 12:52 AM
cheerleader in a tree house, they roam in packsOh the irony. :lmao2:
serum114
09-03-2010, 02:14 AM
Show me where I give a rat's ass about your intentions. I made an accurate assessment of your steaming turd masquerading as a debate topic.
Basically, nana-nana boo-boo is your reason for posting the article. Some therapy you have there! :lmao2:
Yes, and the guy was nuts. Son of Sam said the dog was talking to him. Does that mean the dog was actually talking to him?
You don't get out much, do ya Mike? :lmao2:
We should have let Berkowitz go and waterboarded the dog until it talked again.:banghead:
Bill Cosby
09-03-2010, 03:08 AM
What a surprise... another psychiatrist is in the house.
Wow, two professional opinions & you are still laughing..........:lmao2:
:thumbsup:
MintJulep
09-03-2010, 07:59 AM
Gore of course isn't responsible since he never suggests violence or harming people as a solution.Bill O'Reilly never suggested violence or harm yet Keith Olbermann blamed him for the abortionist's (Tiller's) murder. Bill Clinton once tried to associate the Oklahoma City Bombing with right-wing talk shows.
How is this any different?
Do you think if this person had been a FOX news watching Tea Party member who demanded the shows on Discovery stop blaming carbon dioxide for GW, every state media outlet wouldn't be making THAT connection??
Surely you jest....
T-Cat
09-03-2010, 10:56 AM
Bill O'Reilly never suggested violence or harm yet Keith Olbermann blamed him for the abortionist's (Tiller's) murder. Bill Clinton once tried to associate the Oklahoma City Bombing with right-wing talk shows.
How is this any different?In the case of O'Reilly there is a huge difference. O'Reilly repeatedly referred to Tiller as "the baby killer" even in passing reference to him when talking about a different topic. Sure you can claim O'Reilly never called for violence against Tiller but at the same time when you repeatedly demonize a person for a horrific crime you could foresee that maybe some individual could take action to stop that "demon".
Gore hasn't accused people of being murderers. His efforts are to present the scientific case for harmful emissions which will cause tremendous problems in the future. The primary solution to preventing those problems isn't killing anyone but making wide scale comprehensive changes in how we produce and use energy. Which is exactly what Gore is promoting.
On the other hand, what is the solution to stopping a "baby killer"? A "baby killer" who was in fact acquitted of such a crime? Perhaps you can see the difference...
Do you think if this person had been a FOX news watching Tea Party member who demanded the shows on Discovery stop blaming
carbon dioxide for GW, every state media outlet wouldn't be making THAT connection??
Surely you jest....The guy would be nuts regardless of his motives. However the difference would be FOXNEWS has denounced the scientists involved in AGW, promoted the accusation of them of being frauds, and basically reinforced the scientific community conspiracy theory bullshit which constantly makes its rounds in the rightwing deniosphere.
FOXNEWS is responsible for their deliberate misinformation campaign. Gore on the other hand for the most part tries to present the accepted and established science. One doesn't have an option to do otherwise to make the case. FOXNews however has the option not to continually repeat bullshit which demonizes members of the scientific community. So again there is a difference.
Does anyone know if Hannity has mentioned Washington DC's summer? He claimed the snow storm that DC got this winter seemed to contradict global warming theory so has he pointed out how Washington DC had their hottest summer on record shattering the old record by a substantial margin? You know, to be fair and balanced. :lmao2:
SortofLiberal
09-03-2010, 11:34 AM
Mike,
You realize that blaming Gore for this nutcase that went off the deep end this week makes as much sense as blaming the NRA, Charlton Heston and Ronald Reagan for each and ever person that has died due to guns in this country, don't you.
Obviously Mr. James J. Lee is not the only nutcase. Anyone that would blame Al Gore for the actions of a crazy man has to be pretty far out there too.
MintJulep
09-03-2010, 11:39 AM
In the case of O'Reilly there is a huge difference. O'Reilly repeatedly referred to Tiller as "the baby killer" even in passing reference to him when talking about a different topic. Sure you can claim O'Reilly never called for violence against Tiller but at the same time when you repeatedly demonize a person for a horrific crime you could foresee that maybe some individual could take action to stop that "demon".
Gore hasn't accused people of being murderers. His efforts are to present the scientific case for harmful emissions which will cause tremendous problems in the future. The primary solution to preventing those problems isn't killing anyone but making wide scale comprehensive changes in how we produce and use energy. Which is exactly what Gore is promoting.
On the other hand, what is the solution to stopping a "baby killer"? A "baby killer" who was in fact acquitted of such a crime? Perhaps you can see the difference...
The facts:
O'Reilly did not suggest violence in re to Tiller.
No right wing talk show hosts suggested violence to inspire the OK city bombing
No one in the Tea Party killed the Federal worker who was found hanged with FED scrawled on his chest, although it was implied by the media and stated throughout the blogosphere
No one in the Tea Party has committed a single act of violence although the media and blogosphere has continually tried to link them to every single act of terrorism.
The IRS building bomber was painted as anti-govt when he was a Bush hating, capitalism hating lover of Marx.
The guy would be nuts regardless of his motives. However the difference would be FOXNEWS has denounced the scientists involved in AGW, promoted the accusation of them of being frauds, and basically reinforced the scientific community conspiracy theory bullshit which constantly makes its rounds in the rightwing deniosphere.
FOXNEWS is responsible for their deliberate misinformation campaign. Gore on the other hand for the most part tries to present the accepted and established science. One doesn't have an option to do otherwise to make the case. FOXNews however has the option not to continually repeat bullshit which demonizes members of the scientific community. So again there is a difference.
Does anyone know if Hannity has mentioned Washington DC's summer? He claimed the snow storm that DC got this winter seemed to contradict global warming theory so has he pointed out how Washington DC had their hottest summer on record shattering the old record by a substantial margin? You know, to be fair and balanced. :lmao2:Put simply, there is no difference other than the (obvious) agenda being pushed by the "MSM".
Now that we know these enviro-terrorists are mainstream, what do we do about it? There are a large number of enviro-terrorists so we need to raise awareness about the excessive belief in environmentalism. Someone needs to denounce the actions. Al Gore movies need a disclaimer that they are totally fictional so other rad enviros don't get the wrong message.
This is a dangerous and disturbing situation that needs pro-activity.
Parade Rain
09-03-2010, 11:45 AM
The facts:
O'Reilly did not suggest violence in re to Tiller.
No right wing talk show hosts suggested violence to inspire the OK city bombing
No one in the Tea Party killed the Federal worker who was found hanged with FED scrawled on his chest, although it was implied by the media and stated throughout the blogosphere
No one in the Tea Party has committed a single act of violence although the media and blogosphere has continually tried to link them to every single act of terrorism.
The IRS building bomber was painted as anti-govt when he was a Bush hating, capitalism hating lover of Marx.
Put simply, there is no difference other than the (obvious) agenda being pushed by the "MSM".
Now that we know these enviro-terrorists are mainstream, what do we do about it? There are a large number of enviro-terrorists so we need to raise awareness about the excessive belief in environmentalism. Someone needs to denounce the actions. Al Gore movies need a disclaimer that they are totally fictional so other rad enviros don't get the wrong message.
This is a dangerous and disturbing situation that needs pro-activity.
:lmao2: Keep pushing that talking point du jour....and never mind the christ-y righties who kill abortion doctors after they've heard O'Reilly call them 'baby killers' for months....yeah, no connection whatsoever....:lmao2:
:lmao2: Keep pushing that talking point du jour....and never mind the christ-y righties who kill abortion doctors after they've heard O'Reilly call them 'baby killers' for months....yeah, no connection whatsoever....:lmao2:
in fact, i'm always marveling at the talking points used here, if one REALLY believed that the muslims in our country were terrorists, wouldn't they act to fight those terrorists. If they truely felt there was imenient danger to lives, why aren't they defending those lives with any means possible? beacuse they know that the Muslims praying in mosques across the country are not plotting our destruction...
Parade Rain
09-03-2010, 12:08 PM
in fact, i'm always marveling at the talking points used here, if one REALLY believed that the muslims in our country were terrorists, wouldn't they act to fight those terrorists. If they truely felt there was imenient danger to lives, why aren't they defending those lives with any means possible? beacuse they know that the Muslims praying in mosques across the country are not plotting our destruction...
Groups like Rendon and Lincoln have contracts with the Pentagon, RNC, etc., to promote political agendas. They utilize social networking sites, message boards, chat rooms, and blogs, paying people who utilize such media to get their message out. That's why they all sound the same - they're all reading from the same script.
And no, it has nothing to do with any 'danger' other than the threat of LOSING in November.
Mint posted 81 times here yesterday, beginning at 6:15 am.
Sorry, but that is an outrageous number of posts for one person in ONE DAY.
T-Cat
09-03-2010, 12:10 PM
The facts:
O'Reilly did not suggest violence in re to Tiller.
No right wing talk show hosts suggested violence to inspire the OK city bombingSure you can repeat the "facts". But at the same time ignore the fact that O'Reilly demonized Tiller. And as a "baby killer". Extremely charged emotionally and you can expect that wackos will respond sooner or later to that kind of rhetoric.
No one in the Tea Party killed the Federal worker who was found hanged with FED scrawled on his chest, although it was implied by the media and stated throughout the blogosphere
No one in the Tea Party has committed a single act of violence although the media and blogosphere has continually tried to link them to every single act of terrorism.Yes hyperbole and rhetoric is your friend.
The IRS building bomber was painted as anti-govt when he was a Bush hating, capitalism hating lover of Marx.
Put simply, there is no difference other than the (obvious) agenda being pushed by the "MSM".Except of course I have pointed out the difference. You can of course choose to ignore it.
Now that we know these enviro-terrorists are mainstream, what do we do about it?Please indicate how Gore is part of a "enviro-terrorist" group.
There are a large number of enviro-terrorists so we need to raise awareness about the excessive belief in environmentalism.:lmao2: Yes of course that is how you translate a deliberate misinformation campaign. Everything must be transformed into rhetoric by you. Established science becomes "excessive belief". Lying and presenting dishonest arguments about those scientific claims by the rightwing becomes "raising awareness". What a joke.
Someone needs to denounce the actions. Al Gore movies need a disclaimer that they are totally fictional so other rad enviros don't get the wrong message.And of course you are lying about Gore's movie being totally fictional. Par for the course.
This is a dangerous and disturbing situation that needs pro-activity.Listen to the promoter of lies spewing her rhetoric. Quite amusing. Pro-acitivity = Lying and dishonesty by the rightwing.
Bill Cosby
09-03-2010, 12:30 PM
in fact, i'm always marveling at the talking points used here, if one REALLY believed that the muslims in our country were terrorists, wouldn't they act to fight those terrorists. If they truely felt there was imenient danger to lives, why aren't they defending those lives with any means possible? beacuse they know that the Muslims praying in mosques across the country are not plotting our destruction...
I believe some of them are actually kooky enough to believe all mooslims, or @ least almost every damn one of them, man, women & yes child are here to turn this place into a western sharia outpost.........
"all them ppl think the same", "kill westerner, death to americka, blow ppl up, sharia law, women beating, kill anyone"............
I honestly believe that if they had their way, these "constitutionalists" would be building internment camps all over this country & dick & bush type integrations would be common place....... That they are citizens?? That they have rights??? :lmao2:
They are mooslums...............!!!!!!!!!!! :mad: The constitution does not apply to them cause I said so, they are here to hurt me, the constitution does not protect foreign devils coming her to hurt me......
http://whatdahell.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/george_bush_constitution.jpg
Parade Rain
09-03-2010, 12:41 PM
Sure you can repeat the "facts". But at the same time ignore the fact that O'Reilly demonized Tiller. And as a "baby killer". Extremely charged emotionally and you can expect that wackos will respond sooner or later to that kind of rhetoric.
Yes hyperbole and rhetoric is your friend.
Except of course I have pointed out the difference. You can of course choose to ignore it.
Please indicate how Gore is part of a "enviro-terrorist" group.
:lmao2: Yes of course that is how you translate a deliberate misinformation campaign. Everything must be transformed into rhetoric by you. Established science becomes "excessive belief". Lying and presenting dishonest arguments about those scientific claims by the rightwing becomes "raising awareness". What a joke.
And of course you are lying about Gore's movie being totally fictional. Par for the course.
Listen to the promoter of lies spewing her rhetoric. Quite amusing. Pro-acitivity = Lying and dishonesty by the rightwing.
But look at how many idiots buy the crap put out in the misinfo campaigns. That's because they're highly organized.
Spreading the message, and repeating it over and over - on message boards such as this one - is highly effective and, I'd imagine, profitable for the operative who spends all day and night posting "the message", over and over again.
T-Cat
09-03-2010, 01:18 PM
But look at how many idiots buy the crap put out in the misinfo campaigns. That's because they're highly organized.And because most of their audience buy into their disinformation campaigns without a first thought let alone a second one.
Spreading the message, and repeating it over and over - on message boards such as this one - is highly effective and, I'd imagine, profitable for the operative who spends all day and night posting "the message", over and over again.Rightwing think tanks (an oxymoron in most cases) have been using the disinformation strategy for decades to seed phony doubt into various scientific issues. Cigarette smoking causing health problems, acid rain, ozone depletion, and now of course climate change. It works.
CosmicRocker
09-03-2010, 01:21 PM
Tiller went on trail for performing late term abortions for reasons as dubious as "depression"
Kline ( K. AG) was in a race for governor, the charges were dropped - or a jury refused to convict - i'm not sure.
O'Reilly did not apologize for "Killer the Baby killer", nor did he say there was any justification for murdering Tiller.
There's politics involved in ALL of this, so who knows the truth.
As to climate change caused by man, there is so much eveidfnce out there, it's difficult to dispute.
But then the UN was caught fudgeing data.
So -as usual - there is no independent reliable sourcing for any of this stuff.
Most ppl seem to follow their idealogy as to whether O'Reilly "caused" Tiler's death, as well as whether man is actually capable of causing global warming, as the sun is also increas heating up other planets.
I'm pretty sick of the incendiary media, climatologists who fudge data, and the general state of "journalism" today.
I don't beleive anything about anyone, unless I have irrefutable empiracle eveidence - and then I question the methods used to define it.
The hyperpartisianship makes everything said by anyone from any source suspect.
T-Cat
09-03-2010, 03:14 PM
Tiller went on trail for performing late term abortions for reasons as dubious as "depression"
Kline ( K. AG) was in a race for governor, the charges were dropped - or a jury refused to convict - i'm not sure.I do believe he was found not guilty.
O'Reilly did not apologize for "Killer the Baby killer", nor did he say there was any justification for murdering Tiller.
There's politics involved in ALL of this, so who knows the truth.
As to climate change caused by man, there is so much eveidfnce out there, it's difficult to dispute.
But then the UN was caught fudgeing data.They didn't fudge the data, that is more right wing bullshit. There were a few errors in a giant report. They didn't follow their own guildlines for review and sloppy mistakes happened. Hopefully the review of their procedures will improve such things as it is non-trivial putting together a report authored by a couple of hundred scientists spread all over the world.
So -as usual - there is no independent reliable sourcing for any of this stuff.Only if you consider every major science academy in the world as not being reliable.
Most ppl seem to follow their idealogy as to whether O'Reilly "caused" Tiler's death, as well as whether man is actually capable of causing global warming, as the sun is also increas heating up other planets.
I'm pretty sick of the incendiary media, climatologists who fudge data, and the general state of "journalism" today.Again climatologists didn't fudge data. Each inquiry into the incident demonstrated that as false.
I don't beleive anything about anyone, unless I have irrefutable empiracle eveidence - and then I question the methods used to define it.
The hyperpartisianship makes everything said by anyone from any source suspect.The hyperpartisianship is political in nature. Most scientists are not.
CosmicRocker
09-03-2010, 03:52 PM
I do believe he was found not guilty.
They didn't fudge the data, that is more right wing bullshit. There were a few errors in a giant report. They didn't follow their own guildlines for review and sloppy mistakes happened. Hopefully the review of their procedures will improve such things as it is non-trivial putting together a report authored by a couple of hundred scientists spread all over the world.
Only if you consider every major science academy in the world as not being reliable.
Again climatologists didn't fudge data. Each inquiry into the incident demonstrated that as false.
The hyperpartisianship is political in nature. Most scientists are not.
I only knew what I heard, and I don't follow the issue too carefully.
I'd like to see carbon emissions reduced, but I'm leary of cap and trade -
seems inevitable it will raise energy prices, or just make more money for wall st ( the trading part)
But shit like this destroys their credability, politically it's a dead issue.
T-Cat
09-03-2010, 04:01 PM
I only knew what I heard, and I don't follow the issue too carefully.What you heard came from rightwing disinformation sources.
I'd like to see carbon emissions reduced, but I'm leary of cap and trade -
seems inevitable it will raise energy prices, or just make more money for wall st ( the trading part)
But shit like this destroys their credability, politically it's a dead issue.How can disinformation actually destroy credibility?
doctordog
09-03-2010, 04:40 PM
Scientist make reports read in favor of who is paying for the funding, period.
CosmicRocker
09-03-2010, 04:44 PM
What you heard came from rightwing disinformation sources.
How can disinformation actually destroy credibility?
prolly so. It's more like "the buzz" the UN thing did damage.
Disinformation destroys credability all the time, that's why it's so widely used.
T-Cat
09-03-2010, 09:00 PM
Scientist make reports read in favor of who is paying for the funding, period.The IPCC doesn't pay the scientists. Most scientists are also tenured professors.
SortofLiberal
09-04-2010, 07:08 AM
No one in the Tea Party has committed a single act of violence although the media and blogosphere has continually tried to link them to every single act of terrorism.
Mint,
Those kind of people NEVER do the deed, they just get those that are further to the fringe than they are worked up so THEY will. Hitler didn't go to the death camps and kill people. Saddam did not personally murder the Kurds nor did Milosevic and if they did not have the power of rhetoric, even those in their militaries would never have done such terrible things, but words matter and as long as those like O'Reilly and Beck and Limbaugh keep spewing hate and "implying" that something HAS to be done or THESE PEOPLE are going to harm good honest Americans . . . we will continue to see an escalation of hate crimes against those they rail against. Rest assured, those that wanted blacks strung up in the 50's didn't do the job themselves. They would make speeches and stir up a crowd and watch the show from afar. Cowards, one and all . . . O'Reilly, Beck, Limbaugh, Palin, Bockman and all those Republicans that were waving the "Don't Tread On Me" flag at the Teabagger Rally. Hate mongers, one and all and THEY are the ones seeing to it that Bin Laden wins. A country can be brought down a lot faster with internal hate than it can by bombs.
SortofLiberal
09-04-2010, 07:21 AM
in fact, i'm always marveling at the talking points used here, if one REALLY believed that the muslims in our country were terrorists, wouldn't they act to fight those terrorists. If they truely felt there was imenient danger to lives, why aren't they defending those lives with any means possible? beacuse they know that the Muslims praying in mosques across the country are not plotting our destruction...
2T,
I truly do not think conservatives really believe in anything. If they truly had a problem with abortion, don't you think they would have DONE something about it when they controlled all of Washington for six years. Don't you think they would have done something about prayer in schools or deficit spending or getting rid of Gays. No, they don't really believe any of the crap they scream about or at least not enough to actually do anything about it because then they would not have anything to bitch about. See, that is all they know how to do . . . BITCH. They are never FOR anything. They are always AGAINST everything that is not the same as it was in their little narrow minds that came from the little narrow minds of their parents. If it was left to conservatives, we would still live in caves and a man would just crack a woman over the head and drag her off to a cave. All conservatives know is fear mongering, hate and violence. They wave around the Bible, but when is the last time you have seen a conservative actually live by what Christ taught . . . "as you do unto the least of these, you do unto Me", care for the poor, turn the other cheek, suffer the little children, it will be easier for a rich man to go through the eye of a needle than to get into heaven. Have you seen any conservatives living by these teachings? Me, either.
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MintJulep
09-04-2010, 08:29 AM
No one in the Tea Party has committed a single act of violence although the media and blogosphere has continually tried to link them to every single act of terrorism.
Mint,
Those kind of people NEVER do the deed, they just get those that are further to the fringe than they are worked up so THEY will. Hitler didn't go to the death camps and kill people. Saddam did not personally murder the Kurds nor did Milosevic and if they did not have the power of rhetoric, even those in their militaries would never have done such terrible things, but words matter and as long as those like O'Reilly and Beck and Limbaugh keep spewing hate and "implying" that something HAS to be done or THESE PEOPLE are going to harm good honest Americans . . . we will continue to see an escalation of hate crimes against those they rail against. Rest assured, those that wanted blacks strung up in the 50's didn't do the job themselves. They would make speeches and stir up a crowd and watch the show from afar. Cowards, one and all . . . O'Reilly, Beck, Limbaugh, Palin, Bockman and all those Republicans that were waving the "Don't Tread On Me" flag at the Teabagger Rally. Hate mongers, one and all and THEY are the ones seeing to it that Bin Laden wins. A country can be brought down a lot faster with internal hate than it can by bombs.Please get back to me when one of these hard-working, polite middle Americans actually does something violent. The facts do not support your claims of violence so it amounts to no more than typical, failed hate rhetoric by the left.
It must be frustrating to try to smear a group of people and having it fail every single time. The left has tried every dirty trick in the book, and what has it gotten you? Even more people being galvanized and determined to defeat the disease called "progressivism" which has infected the democratic party. You are now in the same place republicans were 4 years ago when their party was infected big spending RINOs masquerading as small govt conservatives. It's taken 4 years for a group to mobilize to drain the swamp, but it's happened, and RINOs are being kicked to the curb every day.
But do keep up the mantra of "violent racists" you've espoused for two years. Your perpetual hatred and fabrications of racism have been the gift that keeps on giving. The demise of the progressive left who call themselves the democrat party is imminent. The way the lies and hatred backfired on you reminds me of a quote which aptly applies here:
"First they ignore you, then they mock you, then they fight you, then you win."
Winning.
This is what it looks like.
http://media.glennbeck.com/828/images/082910glenn13.jpg
MintJulep
09-04-2010, 09:11 AM
"Where Lee (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/james-l-lee/) went wrong was in not following Mr. Gore (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/al-gore/)'s example. The Nobel laureate preaches the need for humanity to reduce its consumption, but he doesn't actually reduce his own. To the contrary, Mr. Gore (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/al-gore/)'s 9,000 square-foot Tennessee mansion consumes 12 times the amount of energy an average family home might use. Mr. Gore (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/al-gore/) has even added a 6,500 square-foot palace in Montecito, Calif., to his collection of luxury estates. Nor do any of Mr. Gore (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/al-gore/)'s Gulfstream-flying Hollywood companions follow their own pronouncements about the need to reduce carbon footprints. This healthy hypocrisy does wonders to dispel the risk of dangerous activism on behalf of Mother Earth.
Some in the media have been desperate to paint Tea Party activists as espousing violence, pointing to one individual holding a hateful sign to tar the entire movement. Tea Party principles are inherently peaceful, but this isn't true of the environmental left. So long as this movement portrays mankind as a parasite and a danger, more Unabombers and Silver Spring gunmen will follow."
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/sep/2/an-inconvenient-eco-terrorist/
Bill Cosby
09-04-2010, 08:22 PM
Scientist make reports read in favor of who is paying for the funding, period.
That is just a coincidence about 100% of the time.......:lmao2:
Often times they get several reports & then use the best one or ones........
Those making the bad reports soon figure out how to make "proper reports"..
nondual
09-05-2010, 08:33 AM
The only people you find credible are those who agree with you.
Which is the vast majority. :)
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