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Citizen
08-29-2010, 06:49 PM
If all private businesses are required to be handicapped accessible why aren't private residences required as well?

Hawkeye2j
08-29-2010, 06:51 PM
If all private businesses are required to be handicapped accessible why aren't private residences required as well?
Because private residences are not open to the general public. Any more stupid questions?

doctordog
08-29-2010, 07:01 PM
Because private residences are not open to the general public. Any more stupid questions?

All private businesses aren't either.

Hawkeye2j
08-29-2010, 07:07 PM
All private businesses aren't either.
Are they providing a service for money?

Cookie
08-29-2010, 07:17 PM
What businesses must provide is "equal access" to their buildings. It is against the law to discriminate against people with handicapps by not providing access say, for a job, for sales, or other interactions. These new compliances came about from the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990.

A private residence is excluded from the law, because general access by the public would not be an issue.
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Citizen
08-29-2010, 07:52 PM
It is not against the law to discriminate against people in a free society. A free man can not tell another free man who he can or can not associate with. How is not making mine or your private business handicap accessible causing harm to another person? Public buildings should be accessible I agree but outside of that I can't see how not having it infringes on their rights. Perhaps one new business opens and takes advantage of a possible handicapped market over the other that doesn't have it?

Hawkeye2j
08-29-2010, 07:57 PM
It is not against the law to discriminate against people in a free society. A free man can not tell another free man who he can or can not associate with. How is not making mine or your business handicap accessible causing harm to another person?
Where are you writing from? The nineteen fifties?

Citizen
08-29-2010, 08:01 PM
Where are you writing from? The nineteen fifties?

Where are you writing from? Back in Communist Russia or Fascist Germany?

MintJulep
08-29-2010, 08:10 PM
It is not against the law to discriminate against people in a free society. A free man can not tell another free man who he can or can not associate with. How is not making mine or your private business handicap accessible causing harm to another person? Public buildings should be accessible I agree but outside of that I can't see how not having it infringes on their rights. Perhaps one new business opens and takes advantage of a possible handicapped market over the other that doesn't have it? Couldn't it also be a public danger if a building isn't equipped to accommodate the handicapped in the event of a fire, emergency, etc.?

Citizen
08-29-2010, 08:36 PM
I hear what you're saying but still nobody is forcing an individual to be at that private business. Who is putting these people in handcuffs and escorting them inside their buildings of operation?

MintJulep
08-29-2010, 08:55 PM
I hear what you're saying but still nobody is forcing an individual to be at that private business. Who is putting these people in handcuffs and escorting them inside their buildings of operation?No one is, but come on. What if there is no competing business to accommodate their need, such as Comcast?

I don't have a problem with it. What is with you with this and kres with the FDA? Are you anarchists? :lmao2:

Hamill
08-29-2010, 09:00 PM
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slowhand
08-29-2010, 09:29 PM
I hear what you're saying but still nobody is forcing an individual to be at that private business. Who is putting these people in handcuffs and escorting them inside their buildings of operation?

Is called common courtesy asshole..Ever heard of it?..Its what people who are human do

doctordog
08-29-2010, 09:45 PM
Are they providing a service for money?

Attorneys and stock brokers for instance, do not have to provide access

MintJulep
08-29-2010, 09:57 PM
Attorneys and stock brokers for instance, do not have to provide accessI don't think those two are exempt from the ADA.

http://www.ada.gov/qandaeng.htm

Hawkeye2j
08-29-2010, 10:05 PM
Attorneys and stock brokers for instance, do not have to provide access
Yes they do.

doctordog
08-29-2010, 10:07 PM
I don't think those two are exempt from the ADA.

http://www.ada.gov/qandaeng.htm

I can think of several offices, attorneys especially that do not have handicap access.

MintJulep
08-29-2010, 10:08 PM
I can think of several offices, attorneys especially that do not have handicap access.Then they are in violation of the ADA. I don't think it's optional.

doctordog
08-29-2010, 10:09 PM
Yes they do.

Must be another unenforced law, I can think of 9 attorneys right now that neither have handicap parking or access specific to their businesses.

Hawkeye2j
08-29-2010, 10:09 PM
I can think of several offices, attorneys especially that do not have handicap access.
When a handicap person attempts to enter the office and is unable they can file a complaint.

doctordog
08-29-2010, 10:11 PM
When a handicap person attempts to enter the office and is unable they can file a complaint.

Most of them meet handicapped people outside the office. Since none of them accept walk ins, that is probably how they circumvent the law.

MintJulep
08-29-2010, 10:12 PM
Must be another unenforced law, I can think of 9 attorneys right now that neither have handicap parking or access specific to their businesses.I'm wondering if an employer with less than 15 employees has to comply? It does say a private residence has to be compliant if a business is run in the home. Confusing.

doctordog
08-29-2010, 10:14 PM
I'm wondering if an employer with less than 15 employees has to comply? It does say a private residence has to be compliant if a business is run in the home. Confusing.

could be, I mean I know several small family run restaurants and they all have it, but attorneys and others accept no walk in business, many are in buildings with stairs at every entrance and no ramps or elevators.

Cookie
08-30-2010, 09:53 AM
Couldn't it also be a public danger if a building isn't equipped to accommodate the handicapped in the event of a fire, emergency, etc.?


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FredK
08-30-2010, 12:20 PM
For all the answers go here: http://www.justice.gov/crt/ada/adahom1.htm

For complaints file with the DoJ.

Hawkeye2j
08-30-2010, 07:45 PM
could be, I mean I know several small family run restaurants and they all have it, but attorneys and others accept no walk in business, many are in buildings with stairs at every entrance and no ramps or elevators.
That's because all the lawyers Wayers deals with operates out of the trunk of their car.

Moby
08-30-2010, 10:00 PM
It is not against the law to discriminate against people in a free society. A free man can not tell another free man who he can or can not associate with. How is not making mine or your private business handicap accessible causing harm to another person? Public buildings should be accessible I agree but outside of that I can't see how not having it infringes on their rights. Perhaps one new business opens and takes advantage of a possible handicapped market over the other that doesn't have it?
You confuse a free society with "All men a re created equal". While our founding fathers may have considered land owners and slaves differently, they never considered a man with no legs any different than a man with legs. They are both created equal and should be treated as such in our society.

If you don't like it, move to Libya.

doctordog
08-30-2010, 10:13 PM
That's because all the lawyers Wayers deals with operates out of the trunk of their car.

You have me confused with your boyfriend:taunt: