9/11 Families Speak out On Ground Zero Mosque

[MintJulep]

Pretty sad these families have to be put through this a decade later. :(

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[Hawkeye2j]

Pretty sad these families have to be put through this a decade later. :(

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I wonder, is FOX going to grant equal time to those who have the right to put their community center there?

[Hawkeye2j]

Pretty sad these families have to be put through this a decade later. :(

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And they are only being put through it because of the Right who are using it for a political football.

[AK Gandy]

Where is the same concern regarding families who have lost their sons and daughters in Iraq and think Bush set us up?

If you're gonna try and tug at heart strings.........all should be fair. :dunno:

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[Hawkeye2j]

Where is the same concern regarding families who have lost their sons and daughters in Iraq and think Bush set us up?

If you're gonna try and tug at heart strings.........all should be fair. :dunno:

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Very good example.

[MintJulep]

Where is the same concern regarding families who have lost their sons and daughters in Iraq and think Bush set us up?

If you're gonna try and tug at heart strings.........all should be fair. :dunno:

.When someone demands to erect a statute of Bush on top of each of their grave sites, let me know.

Until then, send your strawman back to the barn.

[MintJulep]

I wonder, is FOX going to grant equal time to those who have the right to put their community center there?FOX only interviewed Debra Burlingame. The rest are separate.

All this grief revisited, just to keep your terrorist friends happy. :(

[Hawkeye2j]

When someone demands to erect a statute of Bush on top of each of their grave sites, let me know.

Until then, send your strawman back to the barn.
For the last time Minty it is not at Ground Zero. Can you get that through your thick head?

[MintJulep]

For the last time Minty it is not at Ground Zero. Can you get that through your thick head?It's a stone's throw away. I'm sure there are some ashes of the dead still scattered over there too.

[BlueSpoon]

For the last time Minty it is not at Ground Zero. Can you get that through your thick head?
I'm sure I will say this 100 more times.

This mosque is NOT a house of worship. It's a monument to jihad.

[MintJulep]

I'm sure I will say this 100 more times.

This mosque is NOT a house of worship. It's a monument to jihad.Thank you.

[AK Gandy]

I'm sure I will say this 100 more times.

This mosque is NOT a house of worship. It's a monument to jihad.


You could say it 10,000 times more..........it still wouldn't make it true. :rolleyes:


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[dsolo802]

Thank you.It is a monument to Jihad only in the minds of those who can't separate Islam the religion from the people who have perverted it for their political ends. You know, just as people do in the name of Christianity, Judaism, and every other religion under the sun.

[MintJulep]

It is a monument to Jihad only in the minds of those who can't separate Islam the religion from the people who have perverted it for their political ends. You know, just as people do in the name of Christianity, Judaism, and every other religion under the sun.There is an Arab TV director who says it's a monument to jihad. Don't you think someone like that would know?

http://www.dcjunkies.com/showpost.php?p=224126&postcount=84

[dsolo802]

There is an Arab TV director who says it's a monument to jihad. Don't you think someone like that would know?

http://www.dcjunkies.com/showpost.php?p=224126&postcount=84No, I don't, and more importantly there is ample reliable information that it is not.

[MintJulep]

No, I don't, and more importantly there is ample reliable information that it is not.Did you read what he said? Makes sense to me. Not only that, he says most Muslims don't give a rip whether or not a mosque is built at Ground Zero or not, that it's other people who are pushing it.

[foxbaron]

You know, prior to all this crap about the Mosque in New York, near Ground Zero, I didn't give a rip where or how many mosques they built in this country It's their house of worship just as churches are ours.

However the lack of tolerance on their part for the feelings of the families and all others that were present that day at Ground Zero and their refusal to relocate the mosque as a gesture of good will and honor to us, the United States, causes me to change my attitude towards all of them.

Personally I would prefer to never see another mosque built anywhere on American soil and could care less what anyone thinks. Furthermore, any muslim who doesn't like it can feel free to return to, or move to, the Muslim Country of their choice and build all the mosques they want and curse us Infidels on a daily basis.

I'm done with being tolerant of muslims and their so called faith of peace. Those that stand silent in the muslim faith are just as guilty as those who act in an irrational manner and commit jihad against others.

[dsolo802]

Did you read what he said? Makes sense to me. Not only that, he says most Muslims don't give a rip whether or not a mosque is built at Ground Zero or not, that it's other people who are pushing it.We should insist that American Muslims build their mosques as close to Ground Zero as possible to demonstrate to ourselves and the world not only that religious freedom still exists in this country, but that we insist that this freedom be exercised. Why? to prove to the Osama Bin Ladens of the world that 9/11 was not the end of an America worth fighting for. The terrorists didn't win.

[MintJulep]

We should insist that American Muslims build their mosques as close to Ground Zero as possible to demonstrate to ourselves and the world not only that religious freedom still exists in this country, but that we insist that this freedom be exercised. Why? to prove to the Osama Bin Ladens of the world that 9/11 was not the end of an America worth fighting for. The terrorists didn't win.Religious freedom exists for every religion and there are mosques all over NY as well as all over the US. Your argument is lame.

You need to read what this Arab TV Director has to say.

"I can't imagine that Muslims [actually] want a mosque at this particular location, because it will become an arena for the promoters of hatred, and a monument to those who committed the crime. Moreover, there are no practicing Muslims in the area who need a place to worship, because it is a commercial district. Is there anyone who is [really] eager [to build] this mosque?...

"Those pushing to build this mosque may be construction companies, architect firms, or political groups who want to exploit this issue. The individual who submitted the building application – I do not know whether he [really] wants [to build] a mosque that will promote reconciliation, or whether he is [just] an investor looking for quick profits. Because the idea of a mosque right next to a site of destruction is not at all an intelligent one. The last thing Muslims want today is to build a religious center that provokes others, or a symbolic mosque that people will visit as a [kind of] museum next to a cemetery.

"What the citizens of the U.S. fail to understand is that the battle against the 9/11 terrorists is not their battle. It is a Muslim battle – one whose flames are still raging in more than 20 Muslim countries... I do not think that the majority of Muslims want to build a monument or a place of worship that tomorrow may become a source of pride for the terrorists and their Muslim followers, nor do they want a mosque that will become a shrine for the haters of Islam... This has already started to happen: [the Islamophobes] are claiming that a mosque is being built over the corpses of 3,000 U.S. citizens who were buried alive by people chanting 'Allah akbar' – the same call that will be heard from the mosque..."

[Bill Cosby]

I'm sure I will say this 100 more times.

This mosque is NOT a house of worship. It's a monument to jihad.

& you are an expert??? Or is that just your opinion?? :confused:

[Bill Cosby]

However the lack of tolerance on their part for the feelings of the families and all others that were present that day at Ground Zero and their refusal to relocate the mosque as a gesture of good will and honor to us, the United States, causes me to change my attitude towards all of them.

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Seems to me that while in the very act of being intolerant you got the balls to complain about someone elses lack of tolerance........ You/we don't know any of those ppl nor their motives or intent....... It is the height of hypocrisy or perhaps stupidity to just assume- project upon them your fears & anxieties..

You are better than that......... I have read several of your blogs & I know that for a fact........ :thumbsup:

If they are stupid enough to be in there recruiting ppl for jihad or the "boys choir" then they should be dealt w/.......... Till then ya'll need to just back off & stop the paranoid over reactions..........

[dsolo802]

Religious freedom exists for every religion and there are mosques all over NY as well as all over the US. Your argument is lame.

You need to read what this Arab TV Director has to say.

"I can't imagine that Muslims [actually] want a mosque at this particular location, because it will become an arena for the promoters of hatred, and a monument to those who committed the crime. Moreover, there are no practicing Muslims in the area who need a place to worship, because it is a commercial district. Is there anyone who is [really] eager [to build] this mosque?...

"Those pushing to build this mosque may be construction companies, architect firms, or political groups who want to exploit this issue. The individual who submitted the building application – I do not know whether he [really] wants [to build] a mosque that will promote reconciliation, or whether he is [just] an investor looking for quick profits. Because the idea of a mosque right next to a site of destruction is not at all an intelligent one. The last thing Muslims want today is to build a religious center that provokes others, or a symbolic mosque that people will visit as a [kind of] museum next to a cemetery.

"What the citizens of the U.S. fail to understand is that the battle against the 9/11 terrorists is not their battle. It is a Muslim battle – one whose flames are still raging in more than 20 Muslim countries... I do not think that the majority of Muslims want to build a monument or a place of worship that tomorrow may become a source of pride for the terrorists and their Muslim followers, nor do they want a mosque that will become a shrine for the haters of Islam... This has already started to happen: [the Islamophobes] are claiming that a mosque is being built over the corpses of 3,000 U.S. citizens who were buried alive by people chanting 'Allah akbar' – the same call that will be heard from the mosque..."To buy into the argument that it is inappropriate for Muslims to build a community center near Ground Zero hurts every Muslim.

If you back down to the xeonphobes - including those who say building the "Mosque" is inappropriate - there will never be an end to the back pedaling.

You don't negotiate with haters.

[MintJulep]

To buy into the argument that it is inappropriate for Muslims to build a community center near Ground Zero hurts every Muslim.

If you back down to the xeonphobes - including those who say building the "Mosque" is inappropriate - there will never be an end to the back pedaling.

You don't negotiate with haters.Is Harry Reid a hater? Is Governor Patterson a hater? Is this Arab TV Director a hater?

Oh, and about that peace-bridging "moderate Muslim" Inmam who bought the place? He believes the US is to blame for 9/11. Here's a 60 minutes interview which the Journolist media won't be showing you.


ED BRADLEY, CBS: (Voiceover) And throughout the Muslim world, there is also strong opposition to America's foreign policy, particularly in the Middle East because of its support of Israel and economic sanctions against Iraq.


Imam ABDUL RAUF: It is a reaction against the policies of the US government, politically, where we espouse principles of democracy and human rights and where we ally ourselves with oppressive regimes in many of these countries.


BRADLEY: Are--are--are you in any way suggesting that we in the United States deserved what happened?


Imam ABDUL RAUF: I wouldn't say that the United States deserved what happened, but the United States policies were an accessory to the crime that happened.


BRADLEY: OK. You say that we're an accessory?


Imam ABDUL RAUF: Yes.


BRADLEY: How?


Imam ABDUL RAUF: Because we have been an accessory to a lot of--of innocent lives dying in the world. In fact, it--in the most direct sense, Osama bin Laden is made in the USA.
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2010/08/19/ground-zero-mosque-imams-controversial-60-minutes-interview#ixzz0x3Ah7U5P

Furthermore, the Obama method of marginalizing and shutting down the debate with anyone who disagrees with you by labeling them as haters, racists is a card which is now maxed out with the American public - further credit denied. Whatever your Alinsky-ite label dejour, I am steadfast in my opinion the location of the mosque is wrong.

An interesting aside, in case you haven't noticed, Hillary Clinton has declined to weigh in on the issue, although she is a resident of NY and SOS. She is a wise and savvy politician. Plan on a challenge from her in 2012.

[foxbaron]

Seems to me that while in the very act of being intolerant you got the balls to complain about someone elses lack of tolerance........ You/we don't know any of those ppl nor their motives or intent....... It is the height of hypocrisy or perhaps stupidity to just assume- project upon them your fears & anxieties..

You are better than that......... I have read several of your blogs & I know that for a fact........ :thumbsup:

If they are stupid enough to be in there recruiting ppl for jihad or the "boys choir" then they should be dealt w/.......... Till then ya'll need to just back off & stop the paranoid over reactions..........




It is their actions and lack of respect that has changed my tolerance to intolerance. This is not an over reaction, I am just sick of their crap and their intolerance of our culture and mores.

[MintJulep]

It is their actions and lack of respect that has changed my tolerance to intolerance. This is not an over reaction, I am just sick of their crap and their intolerance of our culture and mores.I can understand where you're coming from. I have to wonder, why would this radical Inman want to reopen these wounds and make people hate that religion even more. What could he possibly stand to gain from it?

[FredK]

It is their actions and lack of respect that has changed my tolerance to intolerance. This is not an over reaction, I am just sick of their crap and their intolerance of our culture and mores.

So then they can be as American as you?:banghead: :banghead:

[Hawkeye2j]

It is their actions and lack of respect that has changed my tolerance to intolerance. This is not an over reaction, I am just sick of their crap and their intolerance of our culture and mores.
The United States is multi-cultured. So don't pedal that bs of intolerance of our culture. Don't presume your culture is that of all Americans, you are just not that significant.

[nondual]

Worldwide, who has killed more Muslims, the US or al-Qaeda? Simple question.

Any takers today? :dunno:

[Bill Cosby]

It is their actions and lack of respect that has changed my tolerance to intolerance. This is not an over reaction, I am just sick of their crap and their intolerance of our culture and mores.

I think you went off the path @ "their"..........

The actions of a few is not indicative, the exception does not make the rule etc...

If this is going to be the America we envision then you have to chill.......... Let ppl do their thing & mind your own business............ If they actually do something wrong, then action should be taken against them, not before.....:thumbsup: