On Display: The Supreme Stupidity of Obama's Neo-Marxist Pals

[MintJulep]

http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/24/van-jones-stop-worrying-about-the-deficit-the-government-can-just-take-more-money-from-rich-companies/

LAS VEGAS, NV — While the federal government sinks deeper into debt than any time since World War II, former White House “green jobs” adviser Anthony Van Jones said it was time to stop worrying about budget deficits and pressure Washington to take more money from American businesses to fund larger social and infrastructure projects.

“This is a rich country. We have plenty of money, and if you don’t believe me, ask Haliburton,” Jones told a group of progressive bloggers and activists at the Netroots Nation convention Friday. “There’s plenty of money out there; don’t fall into the trap of this whole deficit argument.”

“The only question is how to spend it,” he added.
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[slowhand]

http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/24/van-jones-stop-worrying-about-the-deficit-the-government-can-just-take-more-money-from-rich-companies/


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Despite the setbacks, Jones urged progressives to get behind Obama and understand what he inherited when he took office.

“I can’t stand it,” Jones said of criticism of Obama from the Left. “President Obama volunteered to be the captain of the Titanic after it hit the iceberg.”



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[MintJulep]

Who cares what an America-hatin', Communist twoofer has to say.

He's dumber than a box of jackhammers, just like Bammy. :lmao2:

[nondual]

Who cares what an America-hatin', Communist twoofer has to say.

He's dumber than a box of jackhammers, just like Bammy. :lmao2:
An American communist who is making millions as a capitalist? Oh, I know, He is a communist capitalist. See? I'm smart too!

[MintJulep]

An American communist who is making millions as a capitalist? Oh, I know, He is a communist capitalist. See? I'm smart too!Of course, and he isn't alone. Look at Michael Moore and many other commie hypocrites.

There is no shortage of hypocrisy amongst the domestic enemies of this nation.

[nondual]

Of course, and he isn't alone. Look at Michael Moore and many other commie hypocrites.

There is no shortage of hypocrisy amongst the domestic enemies of this nation.
Moore is making millions... which he then reinvests on more award winning documentaries.Yes, he is a capitalist, just as Soros is. But they put their money to good use. They use it to serve Humanity, and therefore, God.

[MintJulep]

Moore is making millions... which he then reinvests on more award winning documentaries.Yes, he is a capitalist, just as Soros is. But they put their money to good use. They use it to serve Humanity, and therefore, God.Oh bull. They are a couple of fifth-column America-hating hypocrites. Not more, not less. "Documentaries". Now that's funny. :lmao2:

[nondual]

"Documentaries". Now that's funny. :lmao2:
The experts concur, that's why they gave him a a bunch of awards. Are you an expert?

[ROOK]

Moore is making millions... which he then reinvests on more award winning documentaries.Yes, he is a capitalist, just as Soros is. But they put their money to good use. They use it to serve Humanity, and therefore, God.

Moore and Soros are free to utilize the fruits of their own labor to whatever ends they choose, the rather unsettling part is that neither of these men seem to advocate allowing the rest of us the same freedom, it's almost like they think that they're the final arbiters of what "good use" is........

[MintJulep]

The experts concur, that's why they gave him a a bunch of awards. Are you an expert?What "experts", the Hollywood moonbats? Gee, that's a shocker.

He makes one-sided, propaganda schlockumentaries, not more, not less. The last couple have really bombed, too.

[dsolo802]

Of course, and he isn't alone. Look at Michael Moore and many other commie hypocrites.

There is no shortage of hypocrisy amongst the domestic enemies of this nation.Enemies of this nation? Really?

[MintJulep]

Enemies of this nation? Really?Really.......

[nondual]

Moore and Soros are free to utilize the fruits of their own labor to whatever ends they choose, the rather unsettling part is that neither of these men seem to advocate allowing the rest of us the same freedom, it's almost like they think that they're the final arbiters of what "good use" is........
Speaking truth to power is putting your money to good use.

But that bothers you, now, the question is, why?

[nondual]

What "experts", the Hollywood moonbats? Gee, that's a shocker.

He makes one-sided, propaganda schlockumentaries, not more, not less. The last couple have really bombed, too.
He has directed and produced four of the top nine highest-grossing documentaries of all time. That's a fact!

[ROOK]

Speaking truth to power is putting your money to good use.

Not for nothing but I'll decide what constitutes putting My money to "good use" and leave you to do the same with yours......


But that bothers you, now, the question is, why?
What bothers me about others believing that they can make better choices about how to dispense the fruits of my labor better than I can? How about an aversion to slavery for starters ....... :rolleyes:

[nondual]

Not for nothing but I'll decide what constitutes putting My money to "good use" and leave you to do the same with yours......
Cool! But still, speaking truth to power is a good thing.

What bothers me about others believing that they can make better choices about how to dispense the fruits of my labor better than I can? How about an aversion to slavery for starters ....... :rolleyes:
:confused: Do you willingly pay taxes? Because that's all you need to do to comply with your civic responsibilities. Or, do you feel you have no civic responsibilities?

[ROOK]

Cool! But still, speaking truth to power is a good thing.


Yes speaking TRUTH is .....doesn't change the specifics regarding who should decide what constitutes "good use" for the fruits of my labor though.


:confused: Do you willingly pay taxes?

Depends on your definition of "willingly", I willingly pay for what I perceive as a good value commensurate with the amount I'm asked to pay, which of course means that the bulk of my current remuneration to government (especially federal) is extracted from me via the explicit threat of force.


Because that's all you need to do to comply with your civic responsibilities. Or, do you feel you have no civic responsibilities?
Thank you for setting up a rather transparent false choice, I appreciate your efforts, however I suspect that your definition of "civic responsibilities" and the method(s) for complying with them are probably not the same as mine.

[nondual]

Yes speaking TRUTH is .....doesn't change the specifics regarding who should decide what constitutes "good use" for the fruits of my labor though.
Right.

Depends on your definition of "willingly", I willingly pay for what I perceive as a good value commensurate with the amount I'm asked to pay, which of course means that the bulk of my current remuneration to government (especially federal) is extracted from me via the explicit threat of force.
Thank you for setting up a rather transparent false choice, I appreciate your efforts, however I suspect that your definition of "civic responsibilities" and the method(s) for complying with them are probably not the same as mine.
Are you OK with the current level of tax money being spent on education for the poor? How about money spent on infrastructure of our cities? How about money being spent on Medicare and other health services for the poor?

How about money being spent on nation building, like that one?

[ROOK]

Are you OK with the current level of tax money being spent on education for the poor? How about money spent on infrastructure of our cities? How about money being spent on Medicare and other health services for the poor?

How about money being spent on nation building, like that one?

Do you feel that we are currently getting good value for the money we spend on those things? is the money spent efficiently ? are we receiving an acceptable degree of positive results based on the amount we spend in those areas? does current policy in those areas comply with the language and intent of the federal and state constitutions? is the money being spent pursuant to the "general" welfare or do certain groups receive a larger benefit from it than others ? Are there more efficient and effective ways to achieve the desired results other than the methodology that we are currently pursuing?

My answers would be No, No, No, No, No and Yes, how about you ?

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." -- Albert Einstein

[nondual]

Do you feel that we are currently getting good value for the money we spend on those things?
No, but we are slowly improving.

is the money spent efficiently?
No, that's why we need to follow the Rand corporation's recommendations to cut fraud and waste in government institutions.

are we receiving an acceptable degree of positive results based on the amount we spend in those areas?
Not yet, but things are getting slowly better.

does current policy in those areas comply with the language and intent of the federal and state constitutions?
Not exactly, and as long as we allow lobbyists to write our laws, we won't be able to comply with the intent of the Constitution.

is the money being spent pursuant to the "general" welfare or do certain groups receive a larger benefit from it than others ?
Probably not 100% fair, but that's what we have Congress for, so we can change what doesn't work.

Are there more efficient and effective ways to achieve the desired results other than the methodology that we are currently pursuing?
Yes. A system where bribes weren't allowed. Also, a shorter period for political campaigning, maybe something similar to what the UK and Canada have. A month at the most. Also restrictions on the money coming in for candidates. I don't think that allowing candidates to buy their way through is a good idea.

My answers would be No, No, No, No, No and Yes, how about you ?
You mean that as long as the money being spent isn't being spent on America it's fine with you? I guess you are OK with Republicans borrowing a trillion from China to wage a war of choice in Iraq at the same time they gave trillion dollar tax cuts. How about the Republicans' decision to exclude the Iraq war from budget projections? Was that smart and honest?

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." -- Albert Einstein
Exactly! We already tried tax cuts for the rich (trickle down economics), preemptive war, and nation building... none of which worked! So, let's try something different! :D

[ROOK]

You mean that as long as the money being spent isn't being spent on America it's fine with you? I guess you are OK with Republicans borrowing a trillion from China to wage a war of choice in Iraq at the same time they gave trillion dollar tax cuts. How about the Republicans' decision to exclude the Iraq war from budget projections? Was that smart and honest?

How about taking a shot at being intellectually honest and refrain from your clumsy attempts to put words into mouth for a change? after all is a little common courtesy too much to ask?


Exactly! We already tried tax cuts for the rich (trickle down economics), preemptive war, and nation building... none of which worked! So, let's try something different! :D
Or how about we return to what has been successful in the past such as free market capitalism, fidelity to the Constitution, placing the protection of life, LIBERTY and property back at the top of the list of government priorities and as Jefferson put it ...

"I am for free commerce with all nations, political connection with none, and little or no diplomatic establishment. And I am not for linking ourselves by new treaties with the quarrels of Europe, entering that field of slaughter to preserve their balance, or joining in the confederacy of Kings to war against the principles of liberty."

The last thing we need to do is pursue the collectivist ideas and regressive statism that history has already proven to be dark alleys leading to dismal economic decline and oppression.