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wellstonefan
09-15-2006, 06:34 PM
Can anyone please explain to me the actual definition of Progressive Politics? I think I understand it well but I would appreciate any help! Thank you all.
wellstonefan
09-15-2006, 07:18 PM
i guess nobody knows:(
Jesse Hemingway
09-15-2006, 07:52 PM
Can anyone please explain to me the actual definition of Progressive Politics? I think I understand it well but I would appreciate any help! Thank you all.
My take on the question:
Progressive generally speaking it means moving forward it does not indicate the speed of the movement. A political movement that emulates the universe around us it is always moving, constant changes, the only constant is change. Vice conservative that intends to maintain the past the slowest from of change. Liberal is the political movement that is open to anything and factors in the intelligence of the human beings to always be increasing, resolves the issues related to change by open dialogue and thinking through issues.
The republicans range from living into the past like the Old Testament time frame to progressive.
Democrats range from conservative to extremely liberal a far greater range.
These are just generalities but Barry Goldwater was labeled the most conservative person in senate during the 1960’s and today he would be a progressive republican or a moderate democrat today.
The Neocons need to use a vehicle to attach to or leach onto in their attempt to bring their fascism in under guise of conservative. In the late 1970 jerry falwel and the Neocons hi-jacked the Republican Party and that where we are at now with the republican party. You have the fascist like group from Project for new American century the fundamental Christians that are very simple to manipulated
Check out the book by John Dean: Conservatives without a Conscience
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progressive Conservative
08-23-2008, 02:05 PM
Can anyone please explain to me the actual definition of Progressive Politics? I think I understand it well but I would appreciate any help! Thank you all.
I stumbled across this old post. Hope my reply is of interest...
My take on Progressive politics is that it is a specific subset of ideals within the larger framework of Liberalism, Conservatism and Centrism. Progressivism specifically addresses the need for reform wherever it exists. Progressivism should, ideally, exist as a compliment to the above three major schools of political thought.
It is easy to understand why liberals have become identified almost exclusively with Progressivism, because they acted as its caretakers when conservatives largely abandoned it many years ago. But I also do not think that Progressivism belongs exclusively in the liberal camp. This is one of my favorite quotes, from British Prime minster Benjamin Disraeli:
"In a progressive country, change is constant; and the great question is not whether you should resist change, which is inevitable, but whether that change should be carried out in deference to the manners, the customs, the laws and traditions of a people, or whether it should be carried out in deference to abstract principles, and arbitrary and general doctrines."
Source (http://thebigstick.wordpress.com/2008/07/22/the-coming-age-of-reform/)
So from my perspective (and Disraeli's) change is constant. The only variable remains the pace and the attitude surrounding that change. Liberals prefer a more rapid pace based on often un-proven principles and doctrines while conservatives prefer a difference to tradition and custom. Obviously the ideal answer is somewhere in the middle.
The point I am probably not making very successfully is that Progressivism can indeed be the dominion of both liberals and conservatives and most definitely centrists, so long as reform as the defining characteristic.
Hog Trash
08-23-2008, 09:19 PM
This is one of my favorite quotes, from British Prime minster Benjamin Disraeli:
"In a progressive country, change is constant; and the great question is not whether you should resist change, which is inevitable, but whether that change should be carried out in deference to the manners, the customs, the laws and traditions of a people, or whether it should be carried out in deference to abstract principles, and arbitrary and general doctrines."
Source (http://thebigstick.wordpress.com/2008/07/22/the-coming-age-of-reform/)
So from my perspective (and Disraeli's) change is constant. The only variable remains the pace and the attitude surrounding that change. Liberals prefer a more rapid pace based on often un-proven principles and doctrines while conservatives prefer a difference to tradition and custom. Obviously the ideal answer is somewhere in the middle.
The point I am probably not making very successfully is that Progressivism can indeed be the dominion of both liberals and conservatives and most definitely centrists, so long as reform as the defining characteristic.
I want to thank you for sharing this very wise quote from PM Disraeli.
I have never heard it, and am sure I will refer to it in the future.
It is a concept many liberals do not seem to be able to grasp.
disrupter
08-24-2008, 09:56 AM
Caring about the overall human living condition,
not just some secret enclave for the ultra-rich while everything is just a radioactive wasteland.
People who want to see us soar to the stars,
not just become mono-dimensional money grubs.
oneway
08-24-2008, 10:09 AM
yes, progressive means lazy Baby killing takers. Kind of like the lion king Hakuna matada, no worries for the rest of your days...its a problem free philosophy!
Progressives use sponge bob opposite day language, were right means wrong, black is white, privacy is murder.
Tell this to anyone else on this chat and you may be placed on double secret probation!!!
disrupter
08-24-2008, 10:15 AM
Do you have anything coherent to say, oneway?
Wow, if this is the mentality of the right wing, it needs to be declared an institutionalizable mental condition.
disrupter
08-24-2008, 10:16 AM
btw, how many Iraqi babies have you killed today?
you also just killed a bunch of Afghani babies.
I am not even arguing against baby killing,
i would only request that there be a sane, rational reason for it.
you seem to have neither sanity nor rationality.
you are just a vile, irrational wad of shit.
Binky
08-24-2008, 12:05 PM
Progressive politics....moving forward. Open to new ideas. Constant change.
So constantly moving onward, with an open mind, towards a goal or goals, with new ideas and change.
oneway
08-24-2008, 07:31 PM
Websters Dictionary definition:
www.oyez.org
Progressive-n. Lazy Baby killing taker.
syn. A "Ginsburg". Used in a sentence. The progressive female used a coat hanger to self abort a burden (6 month old fetus) from man scum growing in her uterus in the privacy of her own home.
disrupter
08-25-2008, 09:07 PM
'Right to Lifers are COMMUNISTS,
who think a woman's own uterus is GOVERNMENT PROPERTY.
Right to Lifer's are allies with STALIN.
COMMIES.
oneway
08-26-2008, 08:11 AM
When a woman's uterus is empty , it is her own. When a human being is inside it, she is sharing it with a human being.
The insanity of arguing against human life is proof the left is in full alignment with Satan himself.
The insanity of arguing against human life is proof the left is in full alignment with Satan himself.
I had coffee with him the other day. He asked me to tell you "Hi" and let you now that he's looking forward to meeting you.
oneway
08-26-2008, 10:05 AM
I have met him too many times already...through liberal contact, no more meetings necessary.
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