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doctordog
06-22-2010, 09:30 PM
Analysis: Gen.'s remarks echo troubled Afghan war

WASHINGTON (AP) - The war in Afghanistan appears in disarray.
The commanding general's disrespectful remarks about President Barack Obama and his team are the latest setback for a nine-year war rocked by rising casualties, declining public support, growing doubts among allies and feuding between Washington and Kabul.

Whether he fires Gen. Stanley McChrystal or lets him survive with a harsh scolding, Obama opens himself to further political attack as he struggles to keep his balance in the midst of the nation's economic woes and the environmental devastation from the Gulf oil spill.

The Republican opposition will likely seize on the McChrystal flap as evidence of Obama's weakness as commander in chief, even though the party supports the president's Afghan policy.

Liberal Democrats were already disenchanted with Obama for continuing to fight the war against daunting odds and at huge cost.

The White House would not say on Tuesday if McChrystal will be fired, but declared he had made an "enormous mistake" in the unflattering Rolling Stone magazine article and that "all options are on the table."

McChrystal's immediate boss, Defense Secretary Robert Gates, called the commanding general's remarks a "distraction" from the United States' "singular focus" of "fighting a war against al-Qaida and its extremist allies, who directly threaten the United States, Afghanistan, and our friends and allies around the world."

McChrystal's troubles with Obama are not new and began shortly after he was named commander in May 2009. The general sent Gates a report that concluded the Afghan mission required 40,000 more troops or the United States faced mission failure.

The assessment was leaked and deeply angered the White House that was in the midst of a protracted study of how to prosecute the war. Some said McChrystal was bullying the administration. In the end, Obama agreed to send 30,000 additional troops, giving McChrystal nearly all the resources he wanted.

McChrystal had already been called to account once by Obama after the commander publicly derided Vice President Joe Biden's position that called for a small troop increase with a heavy emphasis on counterinsurgency efforts to win over the Afghan people.

Since then U.S. troop deaths in the war crossed the 1,000 mark late last month. A mission to take control of the city of Marja in the south has not been the clear success promised by the military. Rolling Stone said McChrystal calls it a "bleeding ulcer."

And McChrystal seems to have sided with Afghan President Hamid Karzai—who's clearly on the outs with the administration—on how to conduct a long-promised offensive on Kandahar, the biggest city in the south and a Taliban stronghold. The Kandahar operation is considered crucial to the U.S. strategy to turn back the Taliban.

A statement from Karzai's office on Tuesday defended McChrystal.

"The president believes that Gen. McChrystal is the best commander that NATO and coalition forces have had in Afghanistan over the past nine years," the statement said.

But that's likely to do McChrystal more harm than good given the Karzai's falling stock at the White House.

Obama's troubles in Afghanistan, as bad as McChrystal public complaints have now made them, do not stop with internal U.S. disputes.

The U.S. war effort, which has always been tinged with the bad odor of America's defeat in Vietnam, also has caused troubles for Washington's allies in the fight.

On Monday, Britain marked the 300th death among its Afghan forces, and new Prime Minister David Cameron called that "desperately bad news."

The same day, Britain's Foreign Office confirmed that its outspoken special envoy to Afghanistan and Pakistan had taken an extended leave of absence after reports of rifts with his U.S. colleagues in the region.

Sherard Cowper-Coles has long had a reputation for frank talk and was once quoted as saying the war in Afghanistan was doomed to fail.

Canada, another key ally in the conflict, removed its top military commander in Afghanistan for allegedly having an inappropriate relationship with a female subordinate. Canada is withdrawing all its forces next year.

Poland's interim president said Tuesday he will end his country's military mission in Afghanistan in 2012, if he wins next month's runoff election.

Bronislaw Komorowski said he would start scaling back Poland's force of some 2,600 troops in 2011, and end the mission the following year. That, he said, only echoes Obama's promise to start bringing U.S. troops home in July 2011.

The Netherlands will withdraw all its forces on Aug. 1.

McChrystal took command in Afghanistan after Obama fired Gen. David McKiernan 13 months ago. That was the first presidential dismissal of a wartime general since President Harry Truman ousted Gen. Douglas MacArthur during the Korean War.

History may be repeating itself more quickly this time.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9GGH9H00&show_article=1

doctordog
06-23-2010, 08:43 PM
I wish we could get rid of Obama after the lousy service he has given us!


WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama sacked his loose-lipped Afghanistan commander Wednesday, a seismic shift for the military order in wartime, and chose the familiar, admired — and tightly disciplined — Gen. David Petraeus to replace him. Petraeus, architect of the Iraq war turnaround, was once again to take hands-on leadership of a troubled war effort.

Obama said bluntly that Gen. Stanley McChrystal's scornful remarks about administration officials in interviews for a magazine article represent conduct that "undermines the civilian control of the military that is at the core of our democratic system."

He fired the commander after summoning him from Afghanistan for a face to face meeting in the Oval Office and named Petraeus, the Central Command chief who was McChrystal's direct boss, to step in.

By pairing those announcements, Obama sought to move on from the firestorm that was renewing debate over his revamped Afghanistan policy. It was meant to assure Afghans, U.S. allies and a restive American electorate that a firm hand is running the war.

Expressing praise for McChrystal yet certainty he had to go, Obama said he did not make the decision over any disagreement in policy or "out of any sense of personal insult." Flanked by Vice President Joe Biden, Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, in the Rose Garden, he said: "War is bigger than any one man or woman, whether a private, a general, or a president."

He urged the Senate to confirm Petraeus swiftly and emphasized the Afghanistan strategy he announced in December was not shifting with McChrystal's departure.

"This is a change in personnel but it is not a change in policy," Obama said. The president delivered the same message in a phone call to Afghan President Hamid Karzai, the White House said, and Karzai told Obama he would work toward a smooth transition.

As Obama was speaking in the Rose Garden, McChrystal released a statement saying that he resigned out of "a desire to see the mission succeed" and expressing support for the war strategy.

With lawmakers of both parties praising the choice of Petraeus, the White House is confident he will be confirmed before Congress adjourns at the end of next week.

Obama hit several grace notes about McChrystal and his service after their meeting, saying he made the decision to sack him "with considerable regret." And yet, he said the job in Afghanistan cannot be done now under McChrystal's leadership, asserting that the critical remarks from the general and his inner circle in Rolling Stone displayed conduct that doesn't live up to the standards for a command-level officer.

"I welcome debate among my team, but I won't tolerate division," Obama said. He had delivered that same message — that there must be no more backbiting — to his full war cabinet in a Situation Room session, said a senior administration official.

The announcement came as June became the deadliest month for the U.S.-dominated international coalition in Afghanistan. NATO announced eight more international troop deaths Wednesday for a total of 76 this month, one more than in the deadliest month previously, in July 2009. Forty-six of those killed this month were Americans. The U.S. has 90,800 troops in Afghanistan.

Obama seemed to suggest that McChrystal's military career is over, saying the nation should be grateful "for his remarkable career in uniform" as if that has drawn to a close. McChrystal left the White House after the meeting and returned to his military quarters at Washington's Fort McNair.

Petraeus, who attended a formal Afghanistan war meeting at the White House on Wednesday, has had overarching responsibility for the wars in both Afghanistan and Iraq as head of Central Command. He was to vacate the Central Command post after his expected confirmation, giving Obama another key opening to fill. The Afghanistan job is actually a step down from his current post but one that filled Obama's pre-eminent need.

Petraeus is the nation's best-known military man, having risen to prominence as the commander who turned around the Iraq war in 2007, applying a counterinsurgency strategy that has been adapted for Afghanistan.

He has a reputation for rigorous discipline. He keeps a punishing pace — spending more than 300 days on the road last year. He briefly collapsed during Senate testimony last week, apparently from dehydration. It was a rare glimpse of weakness for a man known as among the military's most driven.

In the hearing last week, Petraeus told Congress he would recommend delaying Obama's prescribed pullout of U.S. forces from Afghanistan beginning in July 2011. He said security and political conditions in Afghanistan must be ready to handle a U.S. drawdown.

Waheed Omar, spokesman for Karzai, said Petraeus "will also be a trusted partner." Karzai had been a lonely voice in speaking out in support of McChrystal. But Omar said of Petraeus: "He is the most informed person and the most obvious choice for this job" now that McChrystal is out.

The day unfolded with a secretive series of meetings.

McChrystal arrived in Washington off the long flight from Kabul in the early morning and went first to the Pentagon to see top brass. Then came his half hour alone with the president. Obama huddled afterward with Biden, Gates, Mullen and just a few others to plot the next step, and the group settled on Petraeus because he represents the "greatest continuity in operational understanding" and knows Afghanistan, said the senior administration official.

Obama then sat down with Petraeus to offer him the job.

In the magazine article, McChrystal called the period last fall when the president was deciding whether to approve more troops "painful" and said the president appeared ready to hand him an "unsellable" position. McChrystal also said he was "betrayed" by Ambassador Karl Eikenberry, the man the White House chose to be his diplomatic partner in Afghanistan.

He accused Eikenberry of raising doubts about Karzai only to give himself cover in case the U.S. effort failed. And he was quoted mocking Biden.

If not insubordination, the remarks — as well as even sharper commentary about Obama and his White House from several in McChrystal's inner circle — were at the least an extraordinary challenge from a military leader.

Sen. Carl Levin, chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, said he expected to hold a hearing by Tuesday on Petraeus' confirmation.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100624/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_mcchrystal

MintJulep
06-23-2010, 08:49 PM
Even the Generals can't stand his America-hating ass. They love America and he hates it.

Moby
06-23-2010, 10:03 PM
Even the Generals can't stand his America-hating ass. They love America and he hates it.
Please give us some evidence that Obama hates America and prove once and for all that you're more than just an echo chamber for talking points.

Show us what you got.

MarkMiller
06-23-2010, 11:58 PM
Even the Generals can't stand his America-hating ass. They love America and he hates it.
This is a huge problem that goes deep within the military structure and command. They hate when a Democrat is President. They have since Clinton.

GetAClue
06-24-2010, 02:34 PM
Please give us some evidence that Obama hates America and prove once and for all that you're more than just an echo chamber for talking points.

Show us what you got.
Lets see - "We are not a war with radical Islam"
"It is not a war on terror, it is an overseas contingency." - I'm sure thousands of Americans are glad to know that their loved ones died for an "overseas Contingency"
America has "shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive” towards its allies.

That's just a few. There are plenty more.

Moby
06-24-2010, 03:27 PM
Lets see - "We are not a war with radical Islam"
"It is not a war on terror, it is an overseas contingency." - I'm sure thousands of Americans are glad to know that their loved ones died for an "overseas Contingency"
America has "shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive” towards its allies.

That's just a few. There are plenty more.
What does that have to with someone hating American or not?

Did you even read my question before you responded?

MintJulep
06-24-2010, 03:32 PM
What does that have to with someone hating American or not?

Did you even read my question before you responded?I wrote a response to this last night but my PC rebooted itself before I could send it. I will redo it.

John Galt
06-24-2010, 04:27 PM
- I'm sure thousands of Americans are glad to know that their loved ones died for an "overseas Contingency"


I'm sure it makes them feel much better knowing that their loved ones died for the windfall profits of Bushco's cronies.





America has "shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive” towards its allies.

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And you feel this isn't true?