View Full Version : Era of Obama rhetoric is over
doctordog
06-17-2010, 11:40 PM
President Obama's Oval Office speech Tuesday marked the end of an era -- an era in which at least half the population believed any crisis could be defused by one man's supposed rhetorical genius and personal charisma. The derisive reception of President Obama's Tuesday night speech from the Oval Office on the Gulf of Mexico oil spill makes it clear that Obama's sweet voice no longer suffices, not even for his biggest boosters.
The thrill that Obamian rhetoric once sent up the leg of MSNBC commentator Chris Matthews is apparently gone. Obama's repeated references to Energy Secretary Steven Chu's Nobel Prize, Matthews said, now make him want to "barf." He compared Obama with former President Carter. Host Keith Olbermann, who normally wouldn't hesitate to lavish praise on Obama for coughing, was almost as blunt. "It was a great speech if you were on another planet for the last 57 days," he said. Even Howard Fineman, a font of Washington conventional wisdom and a huge fan of the president, suggested that Obama wasn't acting like a commander in chief.
All three liberal commentators agreed: The speech contained little substance and far too few specifics. Even Obama's fans are catching on to a key feature of his political success. Biographer David Mendell described it before Obama's election as his "his ingenious lack of specificity. ... While talking or writing about a deeply controversial subject, he considers all points of view before cautiously giving his own often risk-averse assessment, an opinion that often appears so universal that people of various viewpoints would consider it their own." Now that a crisis is afoot, such hedging no longer helps Obama become all things to all men. Instead, it makes him appear unprepared. He is once again the state senator who voted "present" 130 times, and who on at least one occasion was present and near the Senate chamber but absented himself from a controversial vote.
The same day Obama spoke, a new poll from the Democratic firm Public Policy Polling found that 50 percent of Louisianans think Obama's response to the spill is poorer than his predecessor's response to Hurricane Katrina. The tainted, oily tide has turned on the inexperienced man whom Americans placed in the Oval Office based on hopes and dreams and little else.
Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/Era-of-Obama-rhetoric-is-over-96490264.html#ixzz0rAkvqAUI
Trinnity
06-18-2010, 12:49 AM
He never did stop campaigning.
Note to the US voters: No more on the job training.
Dale escondido
06-18-2010, 05:27 AM
This shits turning the mans hair grey.
Its like watching a fish out of water, he flopping around trying to get back to the water.
nondual
06-18-2010, 09:15 AM
And the $20 billion escrow fund marks the end of free markets. :hi:
MarkMiller
06-18-2010, 09:19 AM
He never did stop campaigning.
Note to the US voters: No more on the job training.
Tell that to Meg Whitman and Carly Fiorina or the rest of the conservative and republican's demanding term limits.
Trinnity
06-18-2010, 09:23 AM
End of free markets? Does that idea make you happy, commie?
Oh, and the OTJ training was in reference to Presidential candidates; went right over your head........we're talking about Obama, remember?
nondual
06-18-2010, 09:44 AM
End of free markets? Does that idea make you happy, commie?
Oh, and the OTJ training was in reference to Presidential candidates; went right over your head........we're talking about Obama, remember?
Commie? :lmao2:
Trinnity
06-18-2010, 10:12 AM
You got a problem with free markets?
nondual
06-18-2010, 10:31 AM
You got a problem with free markets?
I believe in free enterprise and private property, but not on unregulated markets. That's why I like Norway.
doctordog
06-18-2010, 10:44 AM
I believe in free enterprise and private property, but not on unregulated markets. That's why I like Norway.
So you think we have to protect the stupid?
nondual
06-18-2010, 11:16 AM
So you think we have to protect the stupid?
You mean the stupid like BP and Wall Street? Of course NOT! That's what I have been trying to tell you! :thumbsup:
doctordog
06-18-2010, 12:27 PM
You mean the stupid like BP and Wall Street? Of course NOT! That's what I have been trying to tell you! :thumbsup:
No, stupid people that sign off on loans they know they can't afford. No one held a gun to their heads and made them do it did they?
nondual
06-18-2010, 12:43 PM
No, stupid people that sign off on loans they know they can't afford. No one held a gun to their heads and made them do it did they?
And why are the mortgage brokers the ones going to jail, and not the home buyers?
doctordog
06-18-2010, 01:03 PM
And why are the mortgage brokers the ones going to jail, and not the home buyers?
Because we have become a society that is unwilling to hold citizens accoutable for stupidity. It is always the corporations fault and then we wonder why more leave the country each year. This fucking liberal agenda is driving us into the darkness with no light in sight.
nondual
06-18-2010, 01:13 PM
Because we have become a society that is unwilling to hold citizens accoutable for stupidity. It is always the corporations fault and then we wonder why more leave the country each year. This fucking liberal agenda is driving us into the darkness with no light in sight.
:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: Keep talking.
doctordog
06-18-2010, 01:20 PM
:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: Keep talking.
this post tells all here you are part of the problem
nondual
06-18-2010, 01:22 PM
this post tells all here you are part of the problem
What you want me to do, you crack me up! :lmao2:
doctordog
06-18-2010, 01:25 PM
What you want me to do, you crack me up! :lmao2:
You were cracked way before coming here, I had little or nothing to do with it:thumbsup:
nondual
06-18-2010, 01:49 PM
Because we have become a society that is unwilling to hold citizens accoutable for stupidity. It is always the corporations fault and then we wonder why more leave the country each year. This fucking liberal agenda is driving us into the darkness with no light in sight.
BP = over 730 safety violations in one year.
Chevron = less than 10 safety violations the same year.
Sunoco = less than 10 safety violations the same year.
EXXON/Mobil = less than 10 safety violations the same year.
Shell = less than 10 safety violations the same year.
Citgo = less than 10 safety violations the same year.
It was justified!
Trinnity
06-18-2010, 02:41 PM
I believe in free enterprise and private property, but not on unregulated markets. That's why I like Norway.
Regulations are necessary. The contention is how much.
But hey, when they're ignored by govt inspectors (MMS) and watchdogs (SEC), we're are not being properly served by our govt.
nondual
06-18-2010, 03:05 PM
Regulations are necessary. The contention is how much.
But hey, when they're ignored by govt inspectors (MMS) and watchdogs (SEC), we're are not being properly served by our govt.
Right, that's why Obama is breaking down the MMS, trying to pass financial reform, and reinstating Glass/ Steagall.
Mason66
06-18-2010, 03:14 PM
BP = over 730 safety violations in one year.
Chevron = less than 10 safety violations the same year.
Sunoco = less than 10 safety violations the same year.
EXXON/Mobil = less than 10 safety violations the same year.
Shell = less than 10 safety violations the same year.
Citgo = less than 10 safety violations the same year.
It was justified!
I would be more inpressed with those figures if the agency giving the infractions was above board but it has been shown they were lax in their regulation.
Maybe those other companies gave more parties for the regulators.
We really don't know why there is such a discpreancy in those numbers.
Do you really believe a company like Citgo or Chevron only had 10 infractions in their whole operation worldwide?
nondual
06-18-2010, 03:51 PM
I would be more inpressed with those figures if the agency giving the infractions was above board but it has been shown they were lax in their regulation.
Maybe those other companies gave more parties for the regulators.
We really don't know why there is such a discpreancy in those numbers.
Do you really believe a company like Citgo or Chevron only had 10 infractions in their whole operation worldwide?
If they were lax in their regulation why they gave BP so many violations?
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2005: Texas City Refinery explosion
2006–2007: Prudhoe Bay
2006-2008: Texas City refinery fatalities
2007: Propane price manipulation
2008: Oil price manipulation
2009: North Sea helicopter accident
2010: Deepwater Horizon oil spill
Binky
06-18-2010, 05:40 PM
He never did stop campaigning.
Note to the US voters: No more on the job training.
That's true. He's been doing it all along.... We'd all have been much better off with Sarah Palin as president. At least she's had quite a bit of experience dealing with oil companies, rigs and environmentalists.....And by golly, she did not have creepy people hanging around in her past....to haunt us with....
nondual
06-18-2010, 06:06 PM
We'd all have been much better off with Sarah Palin as president. At least she's had quite a bit of experience dealing with oil companies, rigs and environmentalists...
I know, Sarah would have probably been able make BP agree to a 100 billion escrow fund instead of a 20 billion one.
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