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LadyMod at scam.com
09-13-2007, 02:20 PM
The Israeli airline has no flights to New York City, Sept 13th,14th and 15th. What does that mean? Your guess is as good as mine.

However, on 9/11/01 over 6000 Jewish people allegedly did not show up for work at the twin towers. "H-m-m-m-m".

Whoever took these positions mentioned below are either knowledgeable or completely insane. However, how many insane people have access to $700 million to just invest insanely?

Things that make you say "H-m-m-m-m".

Is this piece factual? I have no idea. Your guess is as good as mine.
I guess we will find out soon enough.

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From: Dick Eastman
To: Undisclosed- Recipient: ;

Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 3:30 AM

Subject: someone knows what's coming -- $4.5 billion options bet on catastrophe within four weeks -- another huge sale of option contracts (ready for civil war -- as soon as the "event" occurs Chertoff will start war on us)

$4.5 billion options bet on catastrophe within four weeks And guess what? Just as no one caught the criminal accomplices who short-sold airlines just before 9-11-01, so the financiers have kept their privacy walls despite all "anti-terrorism" legislation. Only those who plan and profit from such terrorism would be in favor of keeping such transactions untraceable. Only the merchant bankers have the power to prevent that logical anti-terrorism regulatory measure from being taken.

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Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007

ANYBODY HAVE A CLUE AS TO WHAT THESE 'INVESTORS' ARE EXPECTING?
http://www.tickerforum.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?post=4669

The two sales are being referred to by market traders as "bin Laden trades"
because only an event on the scale of 9-11 could make these short-sell options valuable.

There are 65,000 contracts @ $750.00 for the SPX 700 calls for open interest. That controls 6.5 million shares at $750 = $4.5 Billion. Not a single trade. But quite a bit of $$ on a contract that is 700 points away from current value. No one would buy that deep "in the money" calls. No reason to. So if they were sold looks like someone betting on massive dislocation. Lots of very strange option activity that I haven't seen before.

The entity or individual offering these sales can only make money if the market drops 30%-50% within the next four weeks. If the market does not drop, the entity or individual involved stands to lose over $1 billion just for engaging in these contracts!

Clearly, someone knows something big is going to happen BEFORE the options expire on Sept. 21.

THEORIES:

The following theories are being discussed widely within the stock and options markets today regarding the enormous and very unusual activity reported above and two stories below. Those theories are:

1) A massive terrorist attack is going to take place before Sept. 21 to tank the markets, OR;

2) China, reeling over losing $10 Billion in bad loans to the sub-prime mortgage collapse presently taking place, is going to dump US currency and tank all of Capitalism with a Communist financial revolution.

Either scenario is bad and the clock is ticking. The drop-dead date of these contracts is September 21. Whatever is going to happen MUST take place between now and then or the folks involved in these contracts will lose over
$1 billion for having engaged in this activity.
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"$1.78 Billion Bet that Stock Markets will crash by third week in September Anonymous Stock Trader Sells 10K Contracts on EVERY S&P/Y "Strike" Shorts Stocks "in the money" effectively selling all his SPY holdings for cash up front without pressuring the market downward. This is an enormous and dangerous stock option activity. If it goes right, the guy makes about $2 Billion. If he's wrong, his out of pocket costs for buying these options will exceed $700 Million!!!

The entity who sold these contracts can only make money if the stock market totally crashes by the third week in September.
Bear in mind that the last time anyone conducted such large and unusual stock option trades (like this one) was in the weeks before the attacks of September 11.

Back then, they bought huge numbers of PUTS on airline stocks in the same airlines whose planes were involved in the September 11 attacks.
Despite knowing who made these trades, the Securities and Exchange Commission NEVER revealed who made the unusual trades and no one was ever publicly identified as being responsible for the trades which made upwards of $50 million when the attacks happened.

The fact that this latest activity by a single entity gambles on a complete collapse of the entire market by the third week in September, seems to indicate someone knows something really huge is in the works and they intend to profit almost $2 Billion within the next four weeks from whatever happens! This is really worrisome."

more here: link to www.tickerforum.org <http://www.tickerforum.org/>
http://www.tickerforum.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?post=4669



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-President Theodore Roosevelt

radioguy
09-13-2007, 05:39 PM
From the US State Department website, section entitled "Identifying Misinformation":


The 4,000 Jews Rumor
Rumor surrounding Sept. 11th proved untrue

Shortly after September 11, 2001, false rumors began to circulate claiming that 4,000 Jews, or 4,000 Israelis, had failed to report for work at the World Trade Center (WTC) on 9/11, supposedly because they had been warned to stay away by Israeli secret services, which were allegedly responsible for the attack. The claim is totally false...

...Vague conspiracy theories blaming Israel began to appear within 24 hours of the attacks. Syria's government-owned Al Thawra newspaper may have been the first newspaper to make the "4,000 Jews" claim. According to U.S. embassy reporting, its September 15th edition falsely claimed "four thousand Jews were absent from their work on the day of the explosions."

The 4,000 figure apparently came from an article entitled "Hundreds of Israelis missing in WTC attack" which appeared in the September 12th internet edition of the Jerusalem Post. It stated, "The Foreign Ministry in Jerusalem has so far received the names of 4,000 Israelis believed to have been in the areas of the World Trade Center and the Pentagon at the time of the attacks."

Unknown conspiracy theorists apparently seized upon the 4,000 figure, transforming it into the false claim that 4,000 Jews did not report for work at the World Trade Center on September 11.

A total of 2,071 occupants of the World Trade Center died on September 11, among the 2,749 victims of the WTC attacks. According to an article in the October 11, 2001, Wall Street Journal, roughly 1,700 people had listed the religion of a person missing in the WTC attacks; approximately 10% were Jewish. A later article, in the September 5, 2002, Jewish Week, states, "based on the list of names, biographical information compiled by The New York Times, and information from records at the Medical Examiner's Office, there were at least 400 victims either confirmed or strongly believed to be Jewish." This would be approximately 15% of the total victims of the WTC attacks. A partial list of 390 Cantor Fitzgerald employees who died (out of 658 in the company) lists 49 Jewish memorial services, which is between 12% and 13%.

This 10-15% estimate of Jewish fatalities tracks closely with the percentage of Jews living in the New York area. According to the 2002 American Jewish Year Book, 9% of the population of New York State, where 64% of the WTC victims lived, is Jewish. A 2002 study estimated that New York City's population was 12% Jewish. Forty-three percent of the WTC victims lived in New York City. Thus, the number of Jewish victims correlates very closely with the number of Jewish residents in New York. If 4,000 Jews had not reported for work on September 11, the number of Jewish victims would have been much lower than 10-15%.

http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2005/Jan/14-260933.html

radioguy
09-13-2007, 06:14 PM
The story you posted LadyMod, originated from Rense.com. It was written by Mark Glenn on September 12th and was entitled "Israel Airline El Al Has 'No Flights' Departing NY On 9-14". It appears to be nothing more than anti-Israeli propaganda published by a site that is famous for such anti-Semitic articles. Here is an excerpt:

"A lot of people said that 4,000 jews didn't show up to work at the World Trade Center in New York on 9-11. Jews seemed to "know" some big attack was going to take place that day and they didn't go to work. By the way, on 9-11, the U.S. Air Force was ordered to "stand down" while those attacks were taking place!

Here we are six years later, the neo-cons are taking all sorts of flak over the Iraq war; the US economy is headed into financial collapse, the jews still want the US to attack Iran but they can't overcome public opinion so. . . . . . another "terrorist attack" on the US would do the trick!

Strange then, that El Al has no flights from NYC on Friday Sept. 14. . . . . Is this a HINT? Do the jews know something about Sept 14 the way they seemed to know about 9-11??"

He was of course wrong.

The website is owned by radio talk show host Jeff Rense, who has made it his mission to convince the public that Israel was behind the 9/11 attacks. I googled the guy, his site, and his talk show to see what he was all about and found this entry at wikipedia.com:

"A recurring subject on the Rense show is a general mistrust of the establishment, and the theory that the attacks on the New York World Trade Center on September 11, 2001 were orchestrated by Zionist Neoconservative elements within the US Government, the CIA and the Israeli Mossad."

Since this story was published by a man with a clear anti-Israeli agenda, and the only websites that picked it up were anti-Semitic, racist, conspiracy, or extreme far left in nature, I would have say that this should be dismissed and filed under the category "racist garbage". That is of course, unless anti-Semitism is your thing. Then I would say, "run with it" baby.

Linkster
09-13-2007, 07:47 PM
While there may be underlying reasons for someone to post the issue - it is a fact that you cannot book a flight from Tel-Aviv to NYC until the 16th - they have grounded all flights between the 12th and the 15th - verfied on the El Al website

disrupter
09-14-2007, 10:17 AM
FOX NEWS did stories about the Israeli connections on 911,
blowing up a van,
driving a truckload of explosives across the George Washington bridge,
& filming, laughing, cheering on the Jersey shore as the WTC towers burned.

But the FOX corporate masters quickly scuttled the real journalism of Fox reporters in favor of lies & deceptions.

TheCenturion
09-14-2007, 11:11 AM
The story you posted LadyMod, originated from Rense.com. It was written by Mark Glenn on September 12th and was entitled "Israel Airline El Al Has 'No Flights' Departing NY On 9-14". It appears to be nothing more than anti-Israeli propaganda published by a site that is famous for such anti-Semitic articles. Here is an excerpt:

"A lot of people said that 4,000 jews didn't show up to work at the World Trade Center in New York on 9-11. Jews seemed to "know" some big attack was going to take place that day and they didn't go to work. By the way, on 9-11, the U.S. Air Force was ordered to "stand down" while those attacks were taking place!

Here we are six years later, the neo-cons are taking all sorts of flak over the Iraq war; the US economy is headed into financial collapse, the jews still want the US to attack Iran but they can't overcome public opinion so. . . . . . another "terrorist attack" on the US would do the trick!

Strange then, that El Al has no flights from NYC on Friday Sept. 14. . . . . Is this a HINT? Do the jews know something about Sept 14 the way they seemed to know about 9-11??"

He was of course wrong.

The website is owned by radio talk show host Jeff Rense, who has made it his mission to convince the public that Israel was behind the 9/11 attacks. I googled the guy, his site, and his talk show to see what he was all about and found this entry at wikipedia.com:

"A recurring subject on the Rense show is a general mistrust of the establishment, and the theory that the attacks on the New York World Trade Center on September 11, 2001 were orchestrated by Zionist Neoconservative elements within the US Government, the CIA and the Israeli Mossad."

Since this story was published by a man with a clear anti-Israeli agenda, and the only websites that picked it up were anti-Semitic, racist, conspiracy, or extreme far left in nature, I would have say that this should be dismissed and filed under the category "racist garbage". That is of course, unless anti-Semitism is your thing. Then I would say, "run with it" baby.

A post like this - conflating criticism of Zionism with racism and the usual paranoid palaver on behalf of Israel - means at least one of two things: The Zionist Propaganda Dis-info Trolls working out of the Israeli Foreign ministry have found this site and/or they've opened the computer room at Belleview Hospital to the inmates. The theme is invariably the same: Israel is ALWAYS right. Yawn

Linkster
09-14-2007, 01:39 PM
Welcome TheCenturion - Its usually pretty easy to figure out who are ops and plants :thumbsup: - We get them here from both sides - but they are fun to play with :lmao2: