Israel: 'Next time we'll use more force'

[CommonCents]

I hope this report is accurate, because those terrorist loving fuckers need to get the shit kicked out of them.

'Next time we'll use more force'
By YAAKOV KATZ, AP AND JPOST.COM STAFF
06/01/2010 13:41

Israel will use more aggressive force in the future to prevent ships from breaking the sea blockade on the Gaza Strip, a top Navy commander told The Jerusalem Post on Tuesday.

"We boarded the ship and were attacked as if it was a war," the officer said. "That will mean that we will have to come prepared in the future as if it was a war."

The anonymous comment came the day after the Israeli Navy raided a flotilla of international aid ships headed to the Strip. Nine activists were killed in the raid, and dozens were injured.

The flotilla which arrived late Sunday night was comprised of six ships, and another two ships, including The Rachel Corrie, were expected to attempt to enter Israeli waters in the coming days.

Greta Berlin of the Free Gaza Movement said earlier Tuesday that a cargo boat was already on the way to challenge Israel's blockade of the Gaza Strip.

A second boat carrying about three dozen passengers was expected to join the first, she added.

http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?ID=177134

[hdmarketing]

I think Israel should just stomp the fuck out of Palestine, and anyone else that fucks with them.

We all know they can, and have only held back because WE have asked them to, but I think they know with the Obama admin they are on their own, because Obama won't even defend this country let along Israel.

[Bill Cosby]

Perhaps you two heroes can volunteer for the next high seas act of piracy...

You can be a real man & beat up some civilians & help make the situation worse...

It is knuckling draggers promoting more violence "anonymously" & from the safety of their living room here in the states that is the real enemy...lol

[CommonCents]

Perhaps you two heroes can volunteer for the next high seas act of piracy...

You can be a real man & beat up some civilians & help make the situation worse...

It is knuckling draggers promoting more violence "anonymously" & from the safety of their living room here in the sates that is the real enemy...lol

You want violence Bill?

Here's your GD violence buddy boy.

gYjkLUcbJWo

[Bill Cosby]

Nice military footage... I think you should check out BBC next...

[CommonCents]

Nice military footage... I think you should check out BBC next...

What's the matter Bill? I guess it only offends you when it's terrorists on the receiving end of steel pipes, rather that those "filthy Jews" huh?

[Bill Cosby]

What's the matter Bill? I guess it only offends you when it's terrorists on the receiving end of steel pipes, rather that those "filthy Jews" huh?

Don't even go there...........

I told you where you can go.... & take your military youtube w/ you mr arm chair general..

[Moby]

What's the matter Bill? I guess it only offends you when it's terrorists on the receiving end of steel pipes, rather that those "filthy Jews" huh?
Do you really believe that all Palestinians are terrorists? That everyone in Gaza is trying to kill Jews? I think most of them are just trying to survive and raise families.

[CommonCents]

Don't even go there...........

I told you where you can go.... & take your military youtube w/ you mr arm chair general..

Then explain to me why it is, that a video showing clearly that your beloved terrorists are attacking the Israelis with pipes is "bullshit" in your eyes? If it isn't a "filthy Jews" thing, then what is it Bill?

[Bill Cosby]

Then explain to me why it is, that a video showing clearly that your beloved terrorists are attacking the Israelis with pipes is "bullshit" in your eyes? If it isn't a "filthy Jews" thing, then what is it Bill?


Show me were I ever stated anything anti-Jewish on this board or any where else ever???????????????????????????

I will wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

[CommonCents]

Show me were I ever stated anything anti-Jewish on this board or any where else ever???????????????????????????

I will wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

To my knowledge, you haven't.

I'm just using common sense Bill. Why would you condemn Israel for the violence that took place, and at the same time disregard the fact that it was those barbarians on that boat who drew first blood and provoked Israels use of force?

Any non partisan observer can see as plain as day what happened, and only someone with a horse in this race would see things from the perspective you do.... so you either love terrorists, or you hate Jews...... Which is it Bill?

If you don't hate Jews, and you love the terrorists, then I will apologize and make a full retraction.

[Bill Cosby]

To my knowledge, you haven't.

I'm just using common sense Bill. Why would you condemn Israel for the violence that took place, and at the same time disregard the fact that it was those barbarians on that boat who drew first blood and provoked Israels use of force?

Any non partisan observer can see as plain as day what happened, and only someone with a horse in this race would see things from the perspective you do.... so you either love terrorists, or you hate Jews...... Which is it Bill?

If you don't hate Jews, and you love the terrorists, then I will apologize and make a full retraction.

Don't ever accuse me of that again....

You see what you wanna see- as always... :disbelief:

If you are out fishing in your boat & I jump on it in international waters & you fight back then you are a fucking terrorist to..............:hi:

[CommonCents]

Don't ever accuse me of that again....

You see what you wanna see- as always... :disbelief:

If you are out fishing in your boat & I jump on it in international waters & you fight back then you are a fucking terrorist to..............:hi:

There is a naval blockade that forbids boats from going to Gaza. You know it, I know it, and those terrorist loving anti-Semitic barbarians knew it.

You condemn Israels use of violence, yet you won't acknowledge that it was those heathens that drew first blood and provoked the violence.

Based on your posts Bill, "Israel bad" and "Terrorists good". I know you're not an idiot and assuming your not just lying to prop up your beliefs, is it that you love the terrorists, or because you hate Jews? Of course, if you claim it's neither, than I guess you are a partisan liar. After your blatant dishonesty with the Arizona immigration law, I guess I should expect as much from you.

[Moby]

There is a naval blockade that forbids boats from going to Gaza. You know it, I know it, and those terrorist loving anti-Semitic barbarians knew it.
Was it a terroist boat?

[Bill Cosby]

There is a naval blockade that forbids boats from going to Gaza. You know it, I know it, and those terrorist loving anti-Semitic barbarians knew it.

because you hate Jews? .

I told you not to accuse me of that.....................

Now back it up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



BACK it up!!!!!! Back up your right wing ass using the race card...........

I am still waiting?????????????????????

[Hawkeye2j]

There is a naval blockade that forbids boats from going to Gaza
Violation of international law.

[CommonCents]

I told you not to accuse me of that.....................

Now back it up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



BACK it up!!!!!! Back up your right wing ass using the race card...........

I am still waiting?????????????????????

The fact that it was a question, which you of course know Bill, tells me all I needed to know. I knew you wouldn't answer the question. You can't, because you lose no matter what you say.

This is the AZ immigration law all over again.

:lmao2: :lmao2:

[CommonCents]

There is a naval blockade that forbids boats from going to Gaza
Violation of international law.

We know Hawk, we know. You are justifying those animals attacking the Israelis and provoking an incident.

Let me guess, you condemn the Israeli violence, but don't condemn the terrorists who drew first blood and provoked the Israeli response.... Right?

[Trinnity]

IMO, it was a set up. There's a lot of talk that Bill Ayers, George Soros, Jodie Evans (code pink) and others of that ideological group were either on the ship, or directly involved with the situation. In the case of Soros - funding. I am finding sources on this but not MSM....so far.

Don't anyone start it up with me. I'm not a spokesman or apologist for Israel. BUT I think this situation was meant to create an incident by the activists. And they have more on the way.

Also, have heard reports that the soldiers started with paintball guns and drew weapons after being attacked with activists who "whipped out" knives and maybe guns.

I'm betting that some of what I mentioned is true and some isn't. Seems the event is too fresh to know yet.

[foxbaron]

Was it a terroist boat?


Considering the blockade is in place to prevent the rearming of terrorists and the ship refused to submit to an inspection then yes, I would have to assume it was a terrorist ship and I would have commandered it or torpedoed it.

[MarkMiller]

Then explain to me why it is, that a video showing clearly that your beloved terrorists are attacking the Israelis with pipes is "bullshit" in your eyes? If it isn't a "filthy Jews" thing, then what is it Bill?
This video shows nothing clearly but people on a boat fighting WITH NO CONTEXT to prove it was what you claim.

[MarkMiller]

Considering the blockade is in place to prevent the rearming of terrorists and the ship refused to submit to an inspection then yes, I would have to assume it was a terrorist ship and I would have commandered it or torpedoed it.
Is that what the blockade is about?

[CommonCents]

Is that what the blockade is about?

It's to stop weapons from being imported into Gaza. In case you haven't kept up with things, the Hamas government in Gaza has vowed the destruction of Israel and they teach their children that their is no greater act than to kill a Jew. Maybe you haven't heard about the thousands of rockets that Gaza has fired into Israeli neighborhoods over the last several years?

[CommonCents]

This video shows nothing clearly but people on a boat fighting WITH NO CONTEXT to prove it was what you claim.

The old "the video is a fake" defense. Classic.

[Bill Cosby]

Is that what the blockade is about?

Gaza Situation ‘Unsustainable,’ Clinton Says as Ship Approaches (http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-06-01/gaza-situation-unsustainable-clinton-says-as-ship-approaches.html)

Who you gonna believe the knuckle dragging arm chair warrior there or Hillary?? :lmao2:


That food & medicine could be used to help terrorist......... :banghead:

When Somali's do this it is piracy...... & when ships in international waters are boarded by armed personal they have no right to resist...

The reactionaries have the ruthless attack blowing up in their faces & they still cry victimhood... IDIOTS

[CommonCents]

Gaza Situation ‘Unsustainable,’ Clinton Says as Ship Approaches (http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-06-01/gaza-situation-unsustainable-clinton-says-as-ship-approaches.html)

Who you gonna believe the knuckle dragging arm chair warrior there or Hillary?? :lmao2:


That food & medicine could be used to help terrorist......... :banghead:

When Somali's do this it is piracy...... & when ships in international waters are boarded by armed personal they have no right to resist...

The reactionaries have the ruthless attack blowing up in their faces & they still cry victimhood... IDIOTS

Gee bill, don't let the fact that Israel offered to escourt the boats to their port, help to unload the cargo and deliver it to Gaza, influience your defense of those animals.

[foxbaron]

This video shows nothing clearly but people on a boat fighting WITH NO CONTEXT to prove it was what you claim.


The video really doesn't matter. The fact that they tried to run the blockade is what matters. They initiated the response by the Israelis on purpose. They should consider themselves fortunate the Israelis didn't sink them.

Not only should the United States back Israel up on this we should send a few ships and at least one submarine to help them enforce it.

[CommonCents]

The video really doesn't matter. The fact that they tried to run the blockade is what matters. They initiated the response by the Israelis on purpose. They should consider themselves fortunate the Israelis didn't sink them.

Not only should the United States back Israel up on this we should send a few ships and at least one submarine to help them enforce it.

Facts, facts..... Liberals don't need no stinking facts.

[Bill Cosby]

Gee bill, don't let the fact that Israel offered to escourt the boats to their port, help to unload the cargo and deliver it to Gaza, influience your defense of those animals.

Calling ppl animals says more about you then them.......... Especially since you have no idea who they even are........ But that don't matter to "ppl" like yourself...........:lmao2:

Here is one of them animals: you wanna kill him to???? http://blogs.abcnews.com/.a/6a00d8341c4df253ef0133ef66a58c970b-250wiAmbassador Edward Peck-evil terrorist animal..

Look deep into that animals eyes :disbelief: & pray for his torture...:hi:

[CosmicRocker]

The ships were going to run the blockade.
They pretty much said so, but Israel didn't need to attack them by dropping in commandos, and smoke bombs.

You do something like that, you're going to start bloodshed.

I don't why the Israeli's couldn't have surronded the flotilla, with guns trained on the boats, and escort them into port.

Then if the Turkish activists ( I think the guys left from Turkey) resisted Irsael could have containe the situation.
Lethal force if the humanitarians has tried to pull guns, I don't think they had guns.
Israel was enforcing ti's blockad, but used poor judgement in the process.

It makes Isarael look like facist stormtroopers.

I have great sympathy for both the Palestinians and the Israeli's for differerent reasons.

There was a better way to enforce the blockade, then attacking it like a commando raid.

[foxbaron]

Calling ppl animals says more about you then them.......... Especially since you have no idea who they even are........ But that don't matter to "ppl" like yourself...........:lmao2:

Here is one of them animals: you wanna kill him to???? http://blogs.abcnews.com/.a/6a00d8341c4df253ef0133ef66a58c970b-250wiAmbassador Edward Peck-evil terrorist animal..

Look deep into that animals eyes :disbelief: & pray for his torture...:hi:


Nice going Bill, kinda like throwing down the race card only I guess we have to call it the animal card.

[Bill Cosby]

The ships were going to run the blockade.
They pretty much said so, but Israel didn't need to attack them by dropping in commandos, and smoke bombs.

You do something like that, you're going to start bloodshed.

I don't why the Israeli's couldn't have surronded the flotilla, with guns trained on the boats, and escort them into port.

Then if the Turkish activists ( I think the guys left from Turkey) resisted Irsael could have containe the situation.
Lethal force if the humanitarians has tried to pull guns, I don't think they had guns.
Israel was enforcing ti's blockad, but used poor judgement in the process.

It makes Isarael look like facist stormtroopers.

I have great sympathy for both the Palestinians and the Israeli's for differerent reasons.

There was a better way to enforce the blockade, then attacking it like a commando raid.
Some good points............

I am afraid that some here would have been happier w/ more death or they just sunk all them "teorristZ".........:mad:

The reliance or over reliance on violence seems to have back fired, badly........

Killing & pissing on Turks & Turkey is certainly a well aimed shot in the foot...

Even Egypt has opened their boarder........

[Bill Cosby]

Nice going Bill, kinda like throwing down the race card only I guess we have to call it the animal card.

No offense to local animals & foxes like you lol........

[Moby]

Here's another one. I mean just look at her. She looks like she wants your neck on a sword.

I read here that one of the ships was under a US Flag. Is that true?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/palestinianauthority/7795112/Gaza-aid-flotilla-attack-42-Britons-from-a-range-of-backgrounds.html
Denis Healey, 55, from Portsmouth, Hants, was captaining the US flagged Challenger 1 ship when it was stormed by the Israeli commandos.

[Bill Cosby]

Interesting........... I thought they were all just Turks/worthless countries..

I guess the Obama administration has no issues w/ American ships being stormed in international waters?? Passengers that resist subject to detention in foreign countries if they are lucky enough not to be killed??

That girl is the non-notorious, non-terrorist Alex Harrison but maybe they can find out she is a mooslim, & thus guilty of something...

Behold another shot of that terrorist evil beast.........http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2010/May/Week4/15641108.jpg

Just watch & listen to her hate filled animal father hysterically calling for jihad on the west.. (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Gaza-Flotilla-Raid-Father-Of-Brit-Campaigner-Alex-Harrison-Expresses-Fears-For-Her-Safety/Article/201005415641128?lpos=World_News_Second_Home_Page_A rticle_Teaser_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15641128_Gaza_Flotilla_Raid%3A_Father_ Of_Brit_Campaigner_Alex_Harrison_Expresses_Fears_F or_Her_Safety)


Terrorist animal Alex's Brit Father's Fears For Gaza Boat Terrorist animalDaughter

11:58am UK, Tuesday June 01, 2010

Pete Norman, Sky News Online
The father of a British woman on board one of the vessels in the Gaza aid convoy raided by Israeli commandos has branded the action as "obscene".

Adrian Harrison told Sky News he had not heard from his daughter Alex for a week and had no idea if she has been injured.

At least nine pro-Palestinian activists on boats in the flotilla were reportedly killed when violence erupted.

Alex Harrison

Alex Harrison undertook a similar mission to Gaza last year

"We have had no news at all," Mr Harrison said.

"We were hoping the British goverrnment and other European governments would prevail on the Israelis and persuade them not to take this obscene action," Mr Harrison said.

According to her father, Alex Harrison, 33, is a veteran activist involved previously in both the Middle East and Nepal.

She was jailed last year after a similar Gaza flotilla intervention was undertaken by Israeli authorities.

"My daughter was imprisoned for a week in some fairly appalling conditions," Mr Harrison said.

"She had been working for humanitarian rights for approximately eight years and she was very much into the programme and got involved with the Free Gaza Organisation about three to four years ago," he said.

Mr Harrison, who lives in Croydon, insisted her humanitarian concerns came before political action.

"Her main objective was to get aid to the starving people in Gaza - she is a humanitarian and that is her primary role," Mr Harrison said.

He also criticised the Foreign Office and its role over the long-brewing incident.

"They have been distinctly unhelpful and the advice really extended to, 'Don't travel to Gaza.'"

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Gaza protesters outside Downing Street

A pizza shop boss from Altrincham in Cheshire was also believed to be aboard a convoy vessel.

Co-workers have voiced concerns about Gehad Sukkur, 39, a married father who owns Carlito's Pizzas in Manchester Road.

Shop worker Adel Lamine said: "He is from Gaza originally and wanted to go out there and help the people.

"He also wanted to see relatives before coming back...I don't know what boat he was on.

None of his friends have heard from him yet - we are really worried."

Meanwhile, activists spoke of another three Britons aboard vessels that were headed to Gaza.

A frame grab shows an Israeli commando landing on a Gaza-bound ship in the Mediterranean Sea

Israeli commando lands onboard

Kate Hudson, chairwoman of the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament (CND), joined a demonstration in London's Whitehall and said she knows Sarah Colborne of the Palestine Solidarity Campaign, among others in the flotilla.

Ms Hudson said they had not heard from her or fellow activist Kevin Ovenden, or another flotilla member, Ismail Patel, who is chairman of the Palestinian rights group Friends of Al-Aqsa.

Three Irish campaigners are also believed to be in the flotilla.

Dr Fintan Lane, Fiachra O Luain and Shane Dillon were aboard the vessel Challenger 1, which had travelled from Cyprus in the first wave of the flotilla and was reportedly boarded by Israeli forces.

It is believed one of them was injured but his condition is not known.

[GetAClue]

Sorry, but the fact still remains. Israel had a blockade in place to prevent ships from delivering weapons. Israel offered to help unload those ships and deliver any humanitarian supplies that were to be delivered. Those that were on those ships knew full well what was going on. They were there to provoke an incident and that is exactly what they did. They are NOT humanitarians, they are terrorist sympathizers.

Humanitarians would have accepted Israel’s offer to help unload and inspect the cargo. Those people on the boats could have cared less about the cargo. They were there to start something in an attempt to paint Israel in a bad light. What they don’t realize is that the only people foolish enough to fall for it already see Israel as the bad guys in this.

[Hawkeye2j]

Sorry, but the fact still remains. Israel had a blockade in place to prevent ships from delivering weapons. Israel offered to help unload those ships and deliver any humanitarian supplies that were to be delivered. Those that were on those ships knew full well what was going on. They were there to provoke an incident and that is exactly what they did. They are NOT humanitarians, they are terrorist sympathizers.

Humanitarians would have accepted Israel’s offer to help unload and inspect the cargo. Those people on the boats could have cared less about the cargo. They were there to start something in an attempt to paint Israel in a bad light. What they don’t realize is that the only people foolish enough to fall for it already see Israel as the bad guys in this.
Israel is sort of like Bush looking for WMD's. They didn't find any weapons either.

[GetAClue]

Israel is sort of like Bush looking for WMD's. They didn't find any weapons either.
So why didn't the ships submitt to inspection before trying to proceed? If they had nothing to hide, what would have been the harm?

You seem to be ignoring the 800lb gorilla in the room. They were NOT there to deliver aid, they were there to start a fight. Would you care to address that or are you just going to revert back to the old liberal standby of "Bussssshhhhhh".

[Moby]

Sorry, but the fact still remains. Israel had a blockade in place to prevent ships from delivering weapons. Israel offered to help unload those ships and deliver any humanitarian supplies that were to be delivered. Those that were on those ships knew full well what was going on. They were there to provoke an incident and that is exactly what they did. They are NOT humanitarians, they are terrorist sympathizers.
Why is this blockade considered legal? What if Pakistan implimented a blockade of India? Or Iran of Pakistan?

Once the ship entered Israel's waters they had legal right to board. It didn't get there.

It's not so simple.

[MintJulep]

So why didn't the ships submitt to inspection before trying to proceed? If they had nothing to hide, what would have been the harm?".You will never get an answer to that extremely relevant question.

[GetAClue]

Why is this blockade considered legal? What if Pakistan implimented a blockade of India? Or Iran of Pakistan?

Once the ship entered Israel's waters they had legal right to board. It didn't get there.

It's not so simple.
Well, when you have an enemy sworn to kill you, then you have a right to protect yourself. If a naval blockade is used as a means to keep weapons out of the hands of those trying to kill you, then yes they are justified.

And again, can you address why these ships wouldn't have stopped and submitted to an inspection if they were just delivering humanitarian aid? That would have been a lot easier than risking their lives in an attempt to deliver their aid. Come on SM, apply some common sense to this and see where it takes you. I understand that you never like to address a subject head on and you take great pride in picking around the edges, but for once put two and two together. Forget your political leanings and try to see this thing for what it really is. It was nothing more than a tactic to provoke Israel into an armed response. The sooner you open your eyes and see it for what it is, the better you will be able to understand the actions of all those involved.

[Moby]

And again, can you address why these ships wouldn't have stopped and submitted to an inspection if they were just delivering humanitarian aid?
If the international community doesn't consider the blockade legal, why should they allow themselves to be boarded? :confused:

Justified and legal are not the same. "Rule of Law"!

Do you really believe that the world should live in a police state where everyone has to answer to the military of other countries?

[GetAClue]

If the international community doesn't consider the blockade legal, why should they allow themselves to be boarded? :confused:
Well, if I'm confronted with a man with a gun in a dark alley demanding my wallet, even if I know it is illegal, I would comply.
Justified and legal are not the same. "Rule of Law"!
Was the United States justified in stopping Japanese Russian ship entering the Gulf of Mexico in 1962? Its called war, Hamas declared it; they now have to live with it. Just because the European Union and the UN don’t recognize it, does not make it any less real.
Do you really believe that the world should live in a police state where everyone has to answer to the military of other countries?
I believe that any country that is threatened with force be it military or terrorism has every right to protect themselves. And if that means stopping the supply of arms from entering their country by naval blockade, then so be it.

Again, I see you still are ignoring the fact that Israel offered to allow any humanitarian aid into Gaza after inspecting it for weapons. Why would those in charge of the flotilla not accept that deal if they were truly looking to just get humanitarian aid to Gaza? Give me one good reason for this other than they shouldn’t have too.

[Moby]

Just because you're not willing to fight, doesn't mean that others don't have the right to fight back.

These ships weren't Hamas so your comparison is insane. :banghead:

You're confusing justified with legal again. Don't you know the difference?

What if Iran stopped an American ship with relief supplies going to Iraq?

What if Somalia suddenly declared a blockade on Ethiopia and stropped a British Ship?

What is all this talk about freedom one minute and than expecting others to relinquish it without a fight? They were in international waters. Don't you get it?

[Moby]

You will never get an answer to that extremely relevant question.
Wrong again princess :)

[BlackAsCoal]

I hope this report is accurate, because those terrorist loving fuckers need to get the shit kicked out of them.



http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?ID=177134

I hope the report is true as well and I hope the Israelis intend to "kick the shit" out of a bunch of people trying to aid an oppressed people.

The evil arrogance of the Israeli government needs this world stage to demonstrate exactly what evil bastards truly are.

They just made Iran winners .. AGAIN.

The American people pay a tremendous price for our unholy alliance with the devil.

[Trinnity]

Poor Hamas :talktothehand:

[Bill Cosby]

Why is this blockade considered legal? What if Pakistan implimented a blockade of India? Or Iran of Pakistan?

Once the ship entered Israel's waters they had legal right to board. It didn't get there.

It's not so simple.

EXACTLY!!!!!!

What if an Iranian vessel did this to an American ship or an Israeli or British ship??

These ppl would be screaming bloody vengeance & lets turn the place to glass......

[CommonCents]

EXACTLY!!!!!!

What if an Iranian vessel did this to an American ship or an Israeli or British ship??

These ppl would be screaming bloody vengeance & lets turn the place to glass......

So that is justification for those terrorists initiating the violence that you are supportively against? I just posted what Joe Biden said in an interview with Charlie Rose. He said the blockade is justified, so how about you address that Bill?

It's about right and wrong, yet you hide behind "international law" to so you can vilify the Jews and paint those terrorists as victims...... Classic.

[Bill Cosby]

so you can vilify the Jews and paint those terrorists as victims...... Classic.

I asked & told you to stop.......

I afforded you the opportunity to prove your acusations here & in several other posts...... You do it again w/ me or anyone here you are gone.....

Your turn now..................

Also the offer is still open to meet @ a site of your choice...

good day

[CommonCents]

I asked & told you to stop.......

I afforded you the opportunity to prove your acusations here & in several other posts...... You do it again w/ me or anyone here you are gone.....

Your turn now..................

Also the offer is still open to meet @ a site of your choice...

good day

You asked me to stop what?

I have asked you a question, to which you have refused to answer.

[MintJulep]

Next time, I hope they sink the ship.

Let Allah sort them out.

[Pat]

Israel is sort of like Bush looking for WMD's. They didn't find any weapons either.
BOOOOOSH!!!!!

[Bill Cosby]

You asked me to stop what?

I have asked you a question, to which you have refused to answer.

Perhaps you didn't realize that you have no fucking right to demand I answer anything???

If you don't like me not answering = tuff shit...............

You or anyone can PM me, but it stands as I stated it...............

[Trinnity]

PARIS – The Turkish Islamic charity behind a flotilla of aid ships that was raided by Israeli forces on its way to Gaza had ties to terrorism networks, including a 1999 al-Qaida plot to bomb Los Angeles International Airport, France's former top anti-terrorism judge said Wednesday.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100602/ap_on_re_eu/eu_gaza_ships_terror_ties

[foxbaron]

Here's another one. I mean just look at her. She looks like she wants your neck on a sword.

I read here that one of the ships was under a US Flag. Is that true?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/palestinianauthority/7795112/Gaza-aid-flotilla-attack-42-Britons-from-a-range-of-backgrounds.html


She looks like an idiot ass activist that is gonna eventually get herself killed by her own ignorance.

When the idiots on the ships get themselves killed trying to run the blockade they have only themselves to blame.

If I was Israel I wouldn't risk the life of one more soldier I would just have a sub sink every ship trying to run the blockade and then pour chum in the water and let the sharks finish them off.

Where was all the condemnation when Hamas was raining down missles on Israel?

Israel is fighting for its mere existence, today, not yesterday. They have to fight every single day to ensure they exist the following day. There is no cease fire in their world.

How long would you tolerate your neighbor dropping missles on your head and constantly threatening to destroy you?

[RK77]

She looks like an idiot ass activist that is gonna eventually get herself killed by her own ignorance.

When the idiots on the ships get themselves killed trying to run the blockade they have only themselves to blame.

If I was Israel I wouldn't risk the life of one more soldier I would just have a sub sink every ship trying to run the blockade and then pour chum in the water and let the sharks finish them off.

Where was all the condemnation when Hamas was raining down missles on Israel?

Israel is fighting for its mere existence, today, not yesterday. They have to fight every single day to ensure they exist the following day. There is no cease fire in their world.

How long would you tolerate your neighbor dropping missles on your head and constantly threatening to destroy you?

How long and how much would you pay to finance my keeping myself safe?

If they want to keep this up let them have at it....without US taxpayors dollars.

[RK77]

PARIS – The Turkish Islamic charity behind a flotilla of aid ships that was raided by Israeli forces on its way to Gaza had ties to terrorism networks, including a 1999 al-Qaida plot to bomb Los Angeles International Airport, France's former top anti-terrorism judge said Wednesday.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100602/ap_on_re_eu/eu_gaza_ships_terror_ties

Hell, AT&T has ties to terrorist networks!

Who the fuck doesn't arguably have ties to terrorist networks?

That crap is played out!

The US was harboring terrorists that ultimately blew up the towers. And Bush flew out a crew of people who had provided direct, lifelong material support to Bin Laden! Can we go blow his ass up?

[RK77]

So that is justification for those terrorists initiating the violence that you are supportively against? I just posted what Joe Biden said in an interview with Charlie Rose. He said the blockade is justified, so how about you address that Bill?

It's about right and wrong, yet you hide behind "international law" to so you can vilify the Jews and paint those terrorists as victims...... Classic.

The Jews villified themselves. They air dropped masked armed men onto another nations vessel in international waters at 4:30AM. Then they killed the people for defending their vessels.

If the Jews were "defending themselves" against some imagined weapons then surely you understand that the people who were looking at masked men with guns might think they were defending themselves as well.

As for the terrorist crap -- that is old mentally challenged excuse making. Your mother could be argued to be a terrorist by the fluid, undefined terminology you use. All it means for people like you is a boogey man you are scared as shit of. That could be the Pillbury Dough Boy!

[foxbaron]

How long and how much would you pay to finance my keeping myself safe?

If they want to keep this up let them have at it....without US taxpayors dollars.


Okay with me. Let's all stand back and let Israel let loose the dogs of war and no one interfer or condemn the outcome. Whatever happens we all agree to live with it.

The Israelis against the Palestinians. No other Arabs allowed to join the fight.

They fight each other with what they currently have and that's it.

I figure it would take about 2-3 days for Israel to kick their asses and about another week to dig the mass graves to put them in.

[Mason66]

Israel is sort of like Bush looking for WMD's. They didn't find any weapons either.

I am glad you brought up Bush.

This crisis falls squarely on Obamas shoulders.

No way to blame Bush for this one.

[Trinnity]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye2j
Israel is sort of like Bush looking for WMD's. They didn't find any weapons either.
~~~~~~~~~~

The incident was designed to be provocative to Israel. A set up. They acted like they were hiding contraband by refusing inspection by Israel AND Egypt. The goal was to break the blockade and force a confrontation. Time will bear this out.
Hawk, you look foolish in your position, and why are you defending radicals and terrorists?

[Bill Cosby]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye2j
Israel is sort of like Bush looking for WMD's. They didn't find any weapons either.
~~~~~~~~~~

The incident was designed to be provocative to Israel. A set up. They acted like they were hiding contraband by refusing inspection by Israel AND Egypt. The goal was to break the blockade and force a confrontation. Time will bear this out.
Hawk, you look foolish in your position, and why are you defending radicals and terrorists?

As recognized by the rest of the planet & many in Israel they were in international waters & breaking no law.... Is provocative a crime?? NO, but biting @ it & killing ppl is..:disbelief:

While the rest of the planet, including many in Israel see this as a huge ass mistake, whose position looks foolish will become apparent even to ppl like you......

SO what is going to become of all those provocative terrorist??

How many will be tortured & brought to trial for their high & death deserving crimes???

Not a fucking one........................

[GetAClue]

Just because you're not willing to fight, doesn't mean that others don't have the right to fight back.

These ships weren't Hamas so your comparison is insane. :banghead:

You're confusing justified with legal again. Don't you know the difference?

What if Iran stopped an American ship with relief supplies going to Iraq?

What if Somalia suddenly declared a blockade on Ethiopia and stropped a British Ship?

What is all this talk about freedom one minute and than expecting others to relinquish it without a fight? They were in international waters. Don't you get it?
I see you are still skirting around my question. If these people were so interested in giving aid to the people in the Gaza strip, why then didn't they just submitt to inspection and allow the aid to then be sent it?

Don't worry, I already know you have no good answer for this, so you will once again avoid the question. Thanks for playing.

[Bill Cosby]

I see you are still skirting around my question. If these people were so interested in giving aid to the people in the Gaza strip, why then didn't they just submitt to inspection and allow the aid to then be sent it?

Don't worry, I already know you have no good answer for this, so you will once again avoid the question. Thanks for playing.


Why should they "submit"............. They are well w/in international waters..

Why shouldn't us ships "submit" to inspection on the high seas??

Your argument is baseless................ Go scare children w/ your fear mongering fairy tales..

None of them have even been accused of a crime............:talktothehand:

This was a huge ass mistake & guess who are the last ones to know??

The American knuckle draggers............ Not a surprise to anyone.. & they wonder why the rest of the planet laughs @ them.........

BBOOOOOoooOOOOO!!!!!!!

[GetAClue]

Why should they "submit"............. They are well w/in international waters..

Why shouldn't us ships "submit" to inspection on the high seas??

Your argument is baseless................ Go scare children w/ your fear mongering fairy tales..

None of them have even been accused of a crime............:talktothehand:

This was a huge ass mistake & guess who are the last ones to know??

The American knuckle draggers............ Not a surprise to anyone.. & they wonder why the rest of the planet laughs @ them.........

BBOOOOOoooOOOOO!!!!!!!
So again, you cannot give a good explanation of why they refused inspection. You want to dance around the subject but refuse to acknowledge that Israel is at war with Hamas and is doing what it can to stem the flow of weapons into the region.

I have always respected you as a poster, but it is becoming quite clear that you are following the liberal agenda and will demonize the Jewish people at every opportunity. That constant stances against anything Israel makes one wonder what the real agenda is of the left.

[Bill Cosby]

So again, you cannot give a good explanation of why they refused inspection.

I did, twice... They have no reason to do so...... Israel acted illegally so they had not one fucking reason to submit to them or anyone else..

What can't you understand about that??

Do you submit when ever someone tells you to?? SShhiisssHHHH

[Moby]

I did, twice... They have no reason to do so...... Israel acted illegally so they had not one fucking reason to submit to them or anyone else..

What can't you understand about that??

Do you submit when ever someone tells you to?? SShhiisssHHHH
We keep answering the question but they don't get it as the programmers haven't yet told them how to respond. Don't worry. They will get a new talking point soon enough and we'll just have to deal with it.

[MintJulep]

We keep answering the question but they don't get it as the programmers haven't yet told them how to respond. Don't worry. They will get a new talking point soon enough and we'll just have to deal with it.Where did someone answer that question?

I've yet to see a cogent explanation of why the flotilla refused inspection and to offload the supplies in Haifa. Do you know? Seems to me if the real motive was to deliver supplies, they would have been happy to comply.

[Moby]

Where did someone answer that question?

I've yet to see a cogent explanation of why the flotilla refused inspection and to offload the supplies in Haifa. Do you know? Seems to me if the real motive was to deliver supplies, they would have been happy to comply.
Because there was no legal reason to do so. Get it?

[Trinnity]

Why do liberals support Hamas. Gawd, it's the 60's all over again.

The Islamo-terrorists all over the world are laffin' their asses off at the stupid Americans and Europeans who are pacifists/war protesters against their own countries. The stupid "infidels" are actually HELPING them to destroy their non-muslim enemies in the long run. :punchballs:

Hamas runs Gaza.
Hamas is a muslim terrorist group.
Muslim terrorists want to kill all non-Muslims. :noway:
War protesters/activists/pacifists use violence to fight against war. :crazzy:

You liberal aider/abettors are crazy. :crazzy:

[Trinnity]

I've yet to see a cogent explanation of why the flotilla refused inspection and to offload the supplies in Haifa. Do you know? Seems to me if the real motive was to deliver supplies, they would have been happy to comply.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Bill Cosby]

Because there was no legal reason to do so. Get it?


Yep, it is just that simple..

[MintJulep]

Because there was no legal reason to do so. Get it?No, I don't get it Moby and you're not doing a very good job of explaining it. The waters blockaded by both Israel and Egypt are controlled by Hamas and the blockade is a preventive measure to keep Iranian weapons and terrorists from being smuggled in. Gaza receives 15,000 tons in aid/week and the inspection process is standard protocol.

Again, if the purpose was solely a humanitarian one, why did they refuse inspection and also refuse to offload the "humanitarian" supplies in Haifa?

That is the question for which you have yet to give a valid answer.

Edit:

Is Israel's naval blockade of Gaza legal?
Wed, Jun 2 2010

By Jonathan Saul
Reuters

LONDON (Reuters) - Israel has said it will continue a naval blockade of the Gaza Strip despite growing global pressure to lift the siege after a navy raid on a Turkish ferry carrying aid killed nine activists this week.

What is the legality of the blockade and did Israel's intervention breach international law? Below are some questions and answers on the issue:

CAN ISRAEL IMPOSE A NAVAL BLOCKADE ON GAZA?

Yes it can, according to the law of blockade which was derived from customary international law and codified in the 1909 Declaration of London. It was updated in 1994 in a legally recognized document called the "San Remo Manual on International Law Applicable to Armed Conflicts at Sea."

Under some of the key rules, a blockade must be declared and notified to all belligerents and neutral states, access to neutral ports cannot be blocked, and an area can only be blockaded which is under enemy control.

"On the basis that Hamas is the ruling entity of Gaza and Israel is in the midst of an armed struggle against that ruling entity, the blockade is legal," said Philip Roche, partner in the shipping disputes and risk management team with law firm Norton Rose.

[MintJulep]

Yep, it is just that simple.. So, they were going to "force" their way through because it wasn't illegal?

Annnnd, what were the bulletproof vests and nightvision goggles for? Just a staple of a humanitarian mission, I suppose.

Bill, how you defend these Nazi slimebags is beyond me.

[nondual]

Also, have heard reports that the soldiers started with paintball guns and drew weapons after being attacked with activists who "whipped out" knives and maybe guns.
:lmao2: These must be the dumbest mofos in Israel's history. Why the hell would anyone point a paintball gun at a terrorist?

Anyway, the video is clear, Israel boarded that ship in the middle of the night, like pirates. Like terrorists! The activists were only defending themselves from a bunch of masked invaders with guns.

[nondual]

Why do liberals support Hamas. Gawd, it's the 60's all over again.

The Islamo-terrorists all over the world are laffin' their asses off at the stupid Americans and Europeans who are pacifists/war protesters against their own countries. The stupid "infidels" are actually HELPING them to destroy their non-muslim enemies in the long run. :punchballs:

Hamas runs Gaza.
Hamas is a muslim terrorist group.
Muslim terrorists want to kill all non-Muslims. :noway:
War protesters/activists/pacifists use violence to fight against war. :crazzy:

You liberal aider/abettors are crazy. :crazzy:
Hamas is in power because of Israel and US support.

Anyway, how often we see helicopters with machine guns mowing down an Israeli refugee camp? Or caterpillars tearing down Israeli homes in Israel? Or Palestinian fighter jets bombing Israel? Or Palestinian tanks on Israel's streets?

How many Palestinians dead for each Israeli?

Who took land from the other?

[Bill Cosby]

So, they were going to "force" their way through because it wasn't illegal?

Annnnd, what were the bulletproof vests and nightvision goggles for? Just a staple of a humanitarian mission, I suppose.

Bill, how you defend these Nazi slimebags is beyond me.

Night goggles & vest, stand alquida issued gear.......:lmao2:

Perhaps you can point out just one of them that was a nazi???

So is Israel in the habit of just releasing nazi's & terrorists???

When they get around to admitting it was a huge ass mistake what will you then???

[MintJulep]

Night goggles & vest, stand alquida issued gear.......:lmao2: Standard Iranian military gear.

Perhaps you can point out just one of them that was a nazi??? The Nazis wanted the Jews completely exterminated, the same goal of the "Palestinians".

So is Israel in the habit of just releasing nazi's & terrorists??? The Nazis and terrorists were masquerading as "humanitarians" -- equipped with bulletproof vests and night vision goggles.

When they get around to admitting it was a huge ass mistake what will you then???Let me know when that happens.

[Trinnity]

:lmao2: These must be the dumbest mofos in Israel's history. Why the hell would anyone point a paintball gun at a terrorist?
It's called "crowd control".
Perhaps, they were expecting resistance, but not actual weapons (pipes, chains, knives, guns). I bet they won't be so politically correct next time. :thumbsup:

[foxbaron]

Yep, it is just that simple..


No Bill it's not just that simple.

Night vision goggles and bullet proof vests are not aid items. They are combat items.

If one is providing aid to another country then why would they want to take the chance of the aid not getting through when both Egypt and Israel offerred to deliver it for them provided they had the opportunity to inspect it.

No Bill, it was a deliberate attempt to provoke Israel and now they want to cry about it because Israel responded as expected; to some extent.

The next time around Israel may not be so polite.

International waters mean nothing if someone is trying to resupply your enemy.

[Trinnity]

FoxB, your logic is flawless. :thumbsup:

[Trinnity]

Here's another one. I mean just look at her. She looks like she wants your neck on a sword.

I read here that one of the ships was under a US Flag. Is that true?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/palestinianauthority/7795112/Gaza-aid-flotilla-attack-42-Britons-from-a-range-of-backgrounds.html

It's sad, actually. She has been sold so much bullshit, she probably does not realize the gravity of what she has gotten herself into. She looks no more enlightened than a deer in the headlights.

[Bill Cosby]

No Bill it's not just that simple.

Night vision goggles and bullet proof vests are not aid items. They are combat items.

If one is providing aid to another country then why would they want to take the chance of the aid not getting through when both Egypt and Israel offerred to deliver it for them provided they had the opportunity to inspect it.

No Bill, it was a deliberate attempt to provoke Israel and now they want to cry about it because Israel responded as expected; to some extent.

The next time around Israel may not be so polite.

International waters mean nothing if someone is trying to resupply your enemy.

You forgot to mention what part of any of that, that is actually a crime???

If I kicked your ass for any one of these "offenses" I would be justified or in jail??:lmao2:

I think there will be a next time & they will handle it a lot more civilly........ :thumbsup:

[MintJulep]

It's sad, actually. She has been sold so much bullshit, she probably does not realize the gravity of what she has gotten herself into. She looks no more enlightened than a deer in the headlights.:lmao2: :lmao2:

:thumbsup:

[foxbaron]

You forgot to mention what part of any of that, that is actually a crime???

If I kicked your ass for any one of these "offenses" I would be justified or in jail??:lmao2:

I think there will be a next time & they will handle it a lot more civilly........ :thumbsup:


This isn't some law enforcement problem where the bad boys get spanked when they get caught. It is a war and it is about the actual survival of Israel.

[Trinnity]

I think there will be a next time & they will handle it a lot more civilly........ :thumbsup:
Probably just the opposite.

[nondual]

International waters mean nothing if someone is trying to resupply your enemy.
The problem was that NO ONE was resupplying anyone, that's why they were all sent home. All, but the nine activists Israel murdered.

[Trinnity]

Not murdered. They started it, Israel finished it.

[nondual]

Not murdered. They started it, Israel finished it.
Who boarded who's ship, armed and in the middle of the night? Palestinians were armed with clubs and knives. Israelis boarded their ship with grenades and machine guns. See a difference?

Who ATTACKED who?

[Trinnity]

:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: Terrorist lover :taunt:

If the activists were peaceful and had nothing to hide, why did they refuse inspection by both Egypt and Israel? Why did their spokesperson state their intent was to break the blockade?

(grenades and machine guns? Citation please. I read paintball guns and sidearms, which commonly means pistols.)

[nondual]

:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: Terrorist lover :taunt:

If the activists were peaceful and had nothing to hide, why did they refuse inspection by both Egypt and Israel? Why did their spokesperson state their intent was to break the blockade?

(grenades and machine guns? Citation please. I read paintball guns and sidearms, which commonly means pistols.)
They murdered nine with paintball guns? That's a first.

Terrorist lover? Take a good look at who Israel really is?

Just answer this: who took land from the other?

[Trinnity]

They murdered nine with paintball guns? That's a first.
Terrorist lover? Take a good look at who Israel really is?
Just answer this: who took land from the other?

They started with paintball guns for crowd control, and used their sidearms after being attacked by the activists bearing pipes, chains, knives and guns. Read up. :read:

That land was uninhabited desert traveled by Bedouin nomads. :talktothehand:

[nondual]

They started with paintball guns for crowd control, and used their sidearms after being attacked by the activists bearing pipes, chains, knives and guns. Read up. :read:
Who goes to board a terrorist ship with paintball guns? They either knew these were not terrorists, as they are now claiming, or they are just plain stupid, which is it going to be today?

That land was uninhabited desert traveled by Bedouin nomads. :talktothehand:
What year was that?

Look, I am not saying that Israelis have no right to part of that land, but so do the Palestinians. The problem is with the way the British partitioned the land. One is inside the other, that's never going to work. It should have been split right through the middle, giving both sides equal access to the Mediterranean Sea.

[Bill Cosby]

They started with paintball guns for crowd control, and used their sidearms after being attacked by the activists bearing pipes, chains, knives and guns. Read up. :read:

That land was uninhabited desert traveled by Bedouin nomads. :talktothehand:


Pls post your evidence about guns being found??

[Bill Cosby]

Who goes to board a terrorist ship with paintball guns? They either knew these were not terrorists, as they are now claiming, or they are just plain stupid, which is it going to be today?


What year was that?

Look, I am not saying that Israelis have no right to part of that land, but so do the Palestinians. The problem is with the way the British partitioned the land. One is inside the other, that's never going to work. It should have been split right through the middle, giving both sides equal access to the Mediterranean Sea.

Good points............

I imagine he knows as much about the history of the area as he does what was found on the "vile terrorist armada"....... next to nothing........

This here is fox, not the history channel in action.......... :lmao2:

[foxbaron]

You forgot to mention what part of any of that, that is actually a crime???

If I kicked your ass for any one of these "offenses" I would be justified or in jail??:lmao2:

I think there will be a next time & they will handle it a lot more civilly........ :thumbsup:


Okay Bill, let's say I will concede your point that they were in international waters and may have been boarded illegally.

Will you concede that Israel the has the absolute right to sink any ship that enters their waters in an attempt to run the blockade and refuses to heave to for inspection.

[Nadeya]

What needs to be done is to implement a real solution to prevent terrible events like the recent one from ever happening again. This is an interesting suggestion I read by Amitakh Stanford. The only chance for peace is a two state solution. Both the Palestinian state and the Israeli state need to have a seaport and continuous borders. The neighbouring muslim nations should think about granting some land to the Palestinians. However, now we are getting to the crucial part, which is Jerusalem. Jerusalem needs to be either wholly in Palestine or wholly in Israel. A "Berlin Wall" will not work, there would be continued friction and threats of war. Both Israelis and Palestinians are religious, so they should be open to an unconventional solution:

http://www.flyingbuffaloes7.net/keluar9.html

O Jerusalem, take heed. The current situation in Israel is untenable; there is an unending conflict between the Palestinians and the Jews. Jewish inhabitants distrust the Palestinians, and vice versa. The age-old struggle between them has cost many lives, much hardship and untold sorrow. The conflict has generated tremendous anger, hatred and distrust – forcing them to live under a single umbrella has proven to be a formula for unending friction.

. . .

Jerusalem is a major sticking point in regard to a two-state solution, which affects not only the parties, but peace in the region. Both sides have long-standing reasons to be inflexible regarding the city. Both sides have long historical, cultural and religious reasons for their intransigence regarding Jerusalem. This has led many people to insist that the two-state solution have a shared Jerusalem. That is, severing Jerusalem in twain, part to one nation and part to another, or granting co-ownership of the city to both nation states. Are either of these proposals wise?

The twentieth century saw what happened when secular powers divided up Berlin into sections. The situation was so bellicose that the Berlin Wall was erected to section off the city. For decades, the Wall divided the people and caused tremendous misery until it was finally demolished.

The same mentality of erecting “Berlin Walls” is very active in modern-day Israel, as is seen by the walled-off sections of the West Bank. Fencing off sections of Berlin did not work, and it should not be encouraged in Jerusalem. Further, if there are national borders running through the city of Jerusalem, it will guarantee that there will be continued friction and bloodshed in the city.

It is understood that neither party wants to relinquish all rights to Jerusalem, but, in reality, to have lasting peace in the area, is there any other choice? I suggest that there is not. Many centuries of conflict support my position. Therefore, in my opinion, Jerusalem should either be wholly within the nation of Israel or wholly within the newly created Palestinian state. To accomplish this, one side or the other would necessarily have to relinquish Jerusalem voluntarily, if it is to be settled amicably. It should be realized that the side that vacates Jerusalem should be amply compensated for it when boundaries for the two newly-formed nation states are drawn.

Clearly, both parties’ claims to Jerusalem are heavily based on religious grounds. If neither side will voluntarily relinquish the city, then, after solemn prayers, a lot should be cast over which nation state will house Jerusalem. Those who sincerely believe in the Divine should accept that the lot will result in the Divine’s will being carried out.

[Trinnity]

Pls post your evidence about guns being found??
I said in an earlier post that I had heard that on the radio. I also said it may or may not be true, because the story was so fresh. I also heard that one of the Israeli soldiers was shot.

Sorry for not reiterating that.

[Bill Cosby]

Okay Bill, let's say I will concede your point that they were in international waters and may have been boarded illegally.

Will you concede that Israel the has the absolute right to sink any ship that enters their waters in an attempt to run the blockade and refuses to heave to for inspection.

Are you considering the waters off Gaza, which is not part of Israel nor has it ever been, as part of "their waters"????

[Bill Cosby]

I said in an earlier post that I had heard that on the radio. I also said it may or may not be true, because the story was so fresh. I also heard that one of the Israeli soldiers was shot.

Sorry for not reiterating that.


No problem my friend... I just want it to be clear that there were no guns on the ships........

It is unfortunate that often rumor, propaganda & innuendo (from all sides) proceeds the facts by days or weeks...

I am still troubled as to why they confiscated all the evidence/photo/camera equipment etc.................. IF THEY HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE???

:dunno:

[Bill Cosby]

Welcome aboard...... :)

If they can not agree, & from what I know they can not................ Why not some type of international city of some sorts???