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Linkster
05-06-2010, 12:42 PM
There - I said it - and to prove it:
Now the government wants to waste my tax dollars to "help" the damned state of Tennessee because they got some water on their state. Obama had to declare a "state of emergency" which means all my hard earned money that I had to pay in taxes now go to help someone else since they can't take care of their own problems
When will this stupidity stop? Im sick and tired of bailing out these states because they dont take the tax dollars they get from their citizens and spend it fixing their own problems - instead, they go whining to the US government that they cant handle it
Same as these idiots calling for the US government to send the National Guard to help Arizona with the border patrol or sending them as well as the Coast Guard to fix some huge oil companies mistakes in the Gulf

Its about time this government stopped their socialist takeover of all of the states duties and maybe our taxes would go down a little more than they have so that I can keep more of the money Im making - I work hard for it and am entitled to it - not to just get sent off to help some other state I dont even live in

Mason66
05-06-2010, 12:49 PM
I don't beleive there is any money left to help anybody after all that was sent (wasted) to Haiti.

Citizen
05-06-2010, 12:59 PM
Liberals so desperately need to find victims for their political gain. Its pathetic.

kres24GT
05-06-2010, 01:00 PM
There - I said it - and to prove it:
Now the government wants to waste my tax dollars to "help" the damned state of Tennessee because they got some water on their state. Obama had to declare a "state of emergency" which means all my hard earned money that I had to pay in taxes now go to help someone else since they can't take care of their own problems
When will this stupidity stop? Im sick and tired of bailing out these states because they dont take the tax dollars they get from their citizens and spend it fixing their own problems - instead, they go whining to the US government that they cant handle it
Same as these idiots calling for the US government to send the National Guard to help Arizona with the border patrol or sending them as well as the Coast Guard to fix some huge oil companies mistakes in the Gulf

Its about time this government stopped their socialist takeover of all of the states duties and maybe our taxes would go down a little more than they have so that I can keep more of the money Im making - I work hard for it and am entitled to it - not to just get sent off to help some other state I dont even live in


Agree 100%.

Citizen
05-06-2010, 01:14 PM
Where was BIG government BEFORE the flooding started? Johnny come latelies I tells ya!

John Galt
05-06-2010, 01:17 PM
There - I said it - and to prove it:
Now the government wants to waste my tax dollars to "help" the damned state of Tennessee because they got some water on their state. Obama had to declare a "state of emergency" which means all my hard earned money that I had to pay in taxes now go to help someone else since they can't take care of their own problems
When will this stupidity stop? Im sick and tired of bailing out these states because they dont take the tax dollars they get from their citizens and spend it fixing their own problems - instead, they go whining to the US government that they cant handle it
Same as these idiots calling for the US government to send the National Guard to help Arizona with the border patrol or sending them as well as the Coast Guard to fix some huge oil companies mistakes in the Gulf

Its about time this government stopped their socialist takeover of all of the states duties and maybe our taxes would go down a little more than they have so that I can keep more of the money Im making - I work hard for it and am entitled to it - not to just get sent off to help some other state I dont even live in
If Tenn. wasn't so lazy, and they would've made better decisions earlier on, they wouldn't be in this situation.


They should all go to school, so that they can better themselves.

Linkster
05-06-2010, 01:27 PM
Wish Bush had just never been elected - the smaller government Reagan was working on went to shit under Bush with these new departments he created expanding goverment to new highs

John - in response - only if they pay for their own schools - otherwise they are just taking more of my money to fund their stupid public education system - everyone should have to pay their own way and not depend on the government to provide all of this public assistance

mwillman
05-06-2010, 02:15 PM
If Tenn. wasn't so lazy, and they would've made better decisions earlier on, they wouldn't be in this situation.


They should all go to school, so that they can better themselves.

Yes its the poor especially that are to blame because they asked for this by not getting hired by some secret group that the rest of us just don't know about.

Lower taxes and small government would keep huge state disasters from occurring and even if they didn't it wouldn't matter because its their fault for not being better prepared with lots boats.

Anyways its Tennessee, didn't all the evangelicals pray for savior or is it just another sign of the apocalypse.

MintJulep
05-06-2010, 02:19 PM
I don't beleive there is any money left to help anybody after all that was sent (wasted) to Haiti.All foreign aid should be eliminated.

mwillman
05-06-2010, 02:56 PM
All foreign aid should be eliminated.

I agree stop giving California tax money to southern and midwestern welfare states. If you can't afford your roads then do without. If you can't afford to deal with natural disasters then thats your fault for not planning better.

I think all the oil in the gulf should be pushed to all red southern states that helped vote in cheney and bush who allowed the almost total disassembly of safety procedures when it comes to off shore drilling.

Linkster
05-06-2010, 02:59 PM
As should all domestic aid be cut off as well - why should I have to support someone elses problems?

Lets start with school taxes - why should I have to pay that when I dont go to school, dont have any kids in school and certainly dont support the socialist structure of requiring children to attend school and then the marxist ideals of providing a government subsidized system.

Second - lets cut out the subsidies to the farmers - the government sticks their noses in the agriculture business way too much and having these commune-type farms supported by the government can only lead to socialism like it did in the USSR

Third - Stop taking medicare out of paychecks, drop the medicare program completely (it was some democrats wet dream anyway of helping to try to cure all of societys' ills) and let the health care companies prosper - that way citizens have the right to choose whatever providor they want and they dont have to follow the government imposed rules on prescriptions, care etc. This alone would drop the deficit immediately and cut out so much red tape in DC we could fire thousands of workers immediately.

Fourth - get rid of "private contractors" for the military - if we dont have enough people to serve - re-institute the draft. Why pay my tax dollars to some company that is paying private people 4 times what the US military pays its men and women that volunteer - for that matter, we could institute a program where only those that are unemployed or collecting any federal aid should be required to provide at least 2 years of service in the military


I think its time we really support the tea party - go back to its original protests and slogans - I think we've lost some of the momentum with all the distractions from the other side so lets start over with the initial tea party and "Tea Bag the White House" and "Tea-bag the liberal Dems before they tea-bag you" - get together as many tea bags as you have and lets send them to the oval office!!!

Ive got lots more ideas for fixing this country but I will keep them for a separate thread - or maybe we can just move this to its own

MintJulep
05-06-2010, 03:03 PM
I agree stop giving California tax money to southern and midwestern welfare states. If you can't afford your roads then do without. If you can't afford to deal with natural disasters then thats your fault for not planning better.

I think all the oil in the gulf should be pushed to all red southern states that helped vote in cheney and bush who allowed the almost total disassembly of safety procedures when it comes to off shore drilling.That works for me, but foreign aid is completely out of the question. Cut it all off. Let the ingrates who "hate" us get their handouts from another country, like Canada or France. Not our problem. We simply do not have it to give.

MintJulep
05-06-2010, 03:06 PM
As should all domestic aid be cut off as well - why should I have to support someone elses problems?

Lets start with school taxes - why should I have to pay that when I dont go to school, dont have any kids in school and certainly dont support the socialist structure of requiring children to attend school and then the marxist ideals of providing a government subsidized system.

Second - lets cut out the subsidies to the farmers - the government sticks their noses in the agriculture business way too much and having these commune-type farms supported by the government can only lead to socialism like it did in the USSR

Third - Stop taking medicare out of paychecks, drop the medicare program completely (it was some democrats wet dream anyway of helping to try to cure all of societys' ills) and let the health care companies prosper - that way citizens have the right to choose whatever providor they want and they dont have to follow the government imposed rules on prescriptions, care etc. This alone would drop the deficit immediately and cut out so much red tape in DC we could fire thousands of workers immediately.

Fourth - get rid of "private contractors" for the military - if we dont have enough people to serve - re-institute the draft. Why pay my tax dollars to some company that is paying private people 4 times what the US military pays its men and women that volunteer - for that matter, we could institute a program where only those that are unemployed or collecting any federal aid should be required to provide at least 2 years of service in the military


I think its time we really support the tea party - go back to its original protests and slogans - I think we've lost some of the momentum with all the distractions from the other side so lets start over with the initial tea party and "Tea Bag the White House" and "Tea-bag the liberal Dems before they tea-bag you" - get together as many tea bags as you have and lets send them to the oval office!!!

Ive got lots more ideas for fixing this country but I will keep them for a separate thread - or maybe we can just move this to its own Eliminate all the "entitlement" programs. We need a US military to protect our interests, which is the primary responsibility of the federal government, not baby-sitting, ass-wiping services for the lazy.

Linkster
05-06-2010, 03:13 PM
I dont actually agree thaat the military is the US governments responsibility as that is not what was put in writing during the constitutional congress - and unless we are willing to throw away the constitution, the military needs to eventually go away completely or back to the states where it was intended

slowhand
05-06-2010, 03:32 PM
All foreign aid should be eliminated.

Tell it to the Chinese

Moby
05-06-2010, 03:34 PM
We need a US military to protect our interests, which is the primary responsibility of the federal government, not baby-sitting, ass-wiping services for the lazy.
The Constitution mentions the military acting to protect each state against invasion and domestic violence. The military invading other countries is not at all in any way mentioned.

What you state is something that many will agree with but it's not something our founding fathers mentioned. Such a belief is a personal one and I'm not disagreeing.

Many people will also claim that we need health care to protect our citizens or various other things even though that was never mentioned in The Constitution. It's a personal belief that may or may not be true just as your belief.

It goes both ways.

Linkster
05-06-2010, 03:48 PM
Tell it to the Chinese

I totally agree - we should drop all relations with the Chinese - buy back all the US public debt they hold since they are the largest holder of all of our public debt followed by Japan
When Bush was in office our public debt climbed to over $10 Trillion as of 2008 - basically doubling our debt from 2001 which is enough to bankrupt the US if the Chinese decided to go on a binge - heck people were scrambling when China said it was reducing its holdings by 1% last month - imagine if they dropped all their holdings

In addition when dropping relations, we need to drop all out-sourcing, tax breaks for companies operating outside of the US but doing business with the US taxpayers as well as stop all imports of goods from other countries, so that we can re-employ the US citizens to make our own goods.

Moby
05-06-2010, 03:50 PM
I totally agree - we should drop all relations with the Chinese - buy back all the US public debt they hold since they are the largest holder of all of our public debt followed by Japan
When Bush was in office our public debt climbed to over $10 Trillion as of 2008 - basically doubling our debt from 2001 which is enough to bankrupt the US if the Chinese decided to go on a binge - heck people were scrambling when China said it was reducing its holdings by 1% last month - imagine if they dropped all their holdings

In addition when dropping relations, we need to drop all out-sourcing, tax breaks for companies operating outside of the US but doing business with the US taxpayers as well as stop all imports of goods from other countries, so that we can re-employ the US citizens to make our own goods.
Wouldn't that force Americans to pay for our debt and higher prices at Walmart?

MarkMiller
05-06-2010, 04:00 PM
Tell it to the Chinese
giggle....chuckle....LOL! ROFLMAO!

BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

MarkMiller
05-06-2010, 04:02 PM
Eliminate all the "entitlement" programs. We need a US military to protect our interests, which is the primary responsibility of the federal government, not baby-sitting, ass-wiping services for the lazy.
Eliminate ALL government money to private corporations in the form of subsidies, tax breaks and any monetary award stemming from the US or State government for ANY reason period.

Then come back and talk to us about entitlements.

GetAClue
05-06-2010, 04:09 PM
Eliminate ALL government money to private corporations in the form of subsidies, tax breaks and any monetary award stemming from the US or State government for ANY reason period.

Then come back and talk to us about entitlements.
I happen to disagree with our tax dollars going to corporations in this manner, but talk to me when the amount of money spent on corporate subsides, tax breaks and monetary awards gets any where near entitlement spending.

Linkster
05-06-2010, 04:54 PM
Wouldn't that force Americans to pay for our debt and higher prices at Walmart?

Yes - but at least two generations from now, we could probably be back to our grandchildren not having any government debt - we would just have to cut out all public programs from the government (and I mean all), take all the funds out of social security and medicare programs, and defund all nasa, military, transit, highway, etc etc bills immediately.
As far as Walmart - they would probably cease to exist with small government as they get too much of their cheaper products made for them in China - not that it matters, as any Super Walmart would have to shut down anyway - the removal of all the farmer subsidies would pretty much empty the shelves of any food at Walmart