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Moby
04-28-2010, 08:05 PM
Bring it on!
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gz8VVwo2TgZdHn9MmdvajJdSGq2QD9FCBM4G0
BOSTON — A whole new way of generating electricity in the U.S. drew a big step closer to reality Wednesday, and it could look like this: 130 windmills, 440 feet tall, rising from the ocean a few miles off Cape Cod.

After more than eight years of lawsuits and government reviews, the Obama administration cleared the way for the nation's first offshore wind farm.

"We are beginning a new direction in our nation's energy future," U.S. Interior Secretary Ken Salazar declared in announcing his approval of the $2 billion Cape Wind project, which would finally allow the U.S. to join the list of major countries that are producing electricity from sea breezes.

The project has faced intense opposition from two Indian tribes and some environmentalists and residents, including the late Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, who warned that the windmills could mar the ocean view. They would be visible from the Kennedy compound at Hyannis Port.

Salazar said the project's developers can protect local culture and beauty while expanding the nation's supply of renewable energy.

The developers are hoping to begin construction this year and start generating power by late 2012 — provided the venture isn't stopped by further lawsuits.

Members of the Aquinnah Wampanoag Tribe of Martha's Vineyard have vowed to go to court, saying the project would interfere with sacred rituals and desecrate long-submerged tribal burial sites. Other groups said they would sue immediately.

"It's far from over," Cape Cod resident Audra Parker of the Alliance to Protect Nantucket Sound. "Nantucket Sound needs to be off limits to Cape Wind and any other industrial development."

Salazar said the project had been exhaustively analyzed and added: "This is the final decision of the United States of America. We are very confident we will be able to uphold the decision against legal challenges."

The windmills would be about five miles off Cape Cod at their closest point to land and 14 miles off Nantucket at the greatest distance. According to simulations done for Cape Wind, on a clear day the turbines would look as if they were about a half-inch tall on the horizon at the nearest point and appear as specks from Nantucket.

The costs will be covered with private funding as well as potentially millions in federal stimulus money and tax credits. Cape Wind is negotiating to sell the electricity generated to a local utility.

Cape Wind eventually hopes to supply three-quarters of the power on Cape Cod, which has about 225,000 residents. Cape Wind officials say it will provide green jobs and a reliable domestic energy source.

The announcement came after a pair of deadly disasters earlier this month in West Virginia and the Gulf of Mexico illustrated the risks in extracting oil and coal to meet the country's energy needs.

Advocates are hoping Cape Wind can jump-start the entire U.S. offshore wind industry.

America has the world's largest onshore wind industry but lags behind other countries in offshore electric generation because of high upfront costs, heavy regulation and technological challenges.

Denmark installed the world's first offshore wind turbine 20 years ago, and there are offshore wind farms around Europe. China has built a commercial wind farm off Shanghai and plans several other projects.

Major U.S. projects are on the drawing board for the waters off New Jersey, Delaware and Texas. The U.S. Department of Energy envisions offshore wind farms accounting for 4 percent of the country's electric generating capacity by 2030.

Kennedy, who loved to sail the waters off Cape Cod, fought Cape Wind until the weeks before his death last summer, calling it a special-interest giveaway that could harm the ocean vista. Others say it could interfere with air and sea traffic and endanger birds and other wildlife.

The lead federal agency reviewing the project, the Minerals Management Service, issued a report last year saying the project poses no major environmental problems.

Rep. William Delahunt, D-Mass., whose district includes Cape Cod, warned that the project will raise the region's power costs, disrupt an ocean sanctuary and set back the wind-power industry, all to benefit a private developer.

"Cape Wind is the first offshore wind farm to be built in the wrong place, in the wrong way, stimulating the wrong economies," Delahunt said Wednesday.

Home to some of the best-known beaches in the Northeast, Cape Cod has long been a destination for summer vacations and is famous for its small towns, colonial-era fishing villages and weathered, gray-shingled homes in its namesake architectural style.

Earlier this month, a federal panel, the Advisory Council on Historic Properties urged Salazar to reject the wind farm, saying it would have destructive effects on the view from dozens of historic sites.

Salazar said he worried that if the project were killed for such reasons, then no offshore wind farms would be possible on the Eastern Seaboard.

Boogie man
04-28-2010, 08:06 PM
I think this is just wonderful. I am a strong believer in conservation.

Smurf-Herder
04-28-2010, 08:12 PM
:lmao2:

Cape Wind lawsuits announced

(NECN) - Native American tribes, commercial fishermen, environmental groups and others will file suit to stop wind project on Nantucket Sound. This, after the Obama administration approved what would be the nation's first offshore wind farm, off Cape Cod.

"While the Obama Administration today dealt a blow to all of us who care deeply about preserving our most precious natural treasures - this fight is not over," said Audra Parker, president and CEO of the Alliance to Protect Nantucket Sound. "Litigation remains the option of last resort. However, when the federal government is intent on trampling the rights of Native Americans and the people of Cape Cod, we must act. We will not stand by and allow our treasured public lands to be marred forever by a corporate giveaway to private industrial energy developers."

Lawsuits will be filed on behalf of a coalition of environmental groups - including the Alliance to Protect Nantucket Sound, Three Bays Preservation, Animal Welfare Institute, Industrial Wind Action Group, Californians for Renewable Energy, Oceans Public Trust Initiative (a project of the International Marine Mammal Project of the Earth Land Institute), Lower Laguna Madre Foundation - against the federal Fish and Wildlife Service and Minerals Management Service for violations of the Endangered Species Act.

The Alliance to Protect Nantucket Sound, along with the Duke's County/Martha's Vineyard Fishermen Association, will also file suit against the federal Minerals Management Service for violations under the Outer Continental Shelf Lands Act. The Town of Barnstable has filed a notice of intent to file a lawsuit on the same grounds. And the Wampanoag tribe is preparing to mount a legal challenge to the project for violations of tribal rights. Additional legal issues include violation of the National Environmental Policy Act, the Migratory Bird Treaty Act, the Rivers and Harbors Act, the Clean Water Act, and the Outer Continental Shelf Lands Act.

Secretary Salazar's decision ignores the recent positions taken against the project by the Advisory Council on Historic Preservation, the National Trust for Historic Preservation, the Massachusetts Historical Commission and the National Park Service, which ruled recently that Nantucket Sound was eligible for listing on the National Register of Historic Places which, like our national parklands, would provide it a higher level of protection from industrial development.

The Advisory Council on Historic Preservation (ACHP) recommended that Secretary Salazar deny or relocate the proposed Cape Wind project because its effects would be "pervasive, destructive, and, in the instance of seabed construction, permanent."

The ACHP called on Secretary Salazar to either deny the project or relocate it to a nearby alternative such as the compromise location outside of Nantucket Sound approximately ten miles south of the proposed site. The compromise location, South of Tuckernuck Island, has gained the support of every stakeholder involved, including Native American tribal leaders, state and federal historic preservation agencies, environmental groups, cities and towns, elected officials, airpots, ferry lines, chambers of commerce and many others.

"It is a shame that the Obama Administration chose political expediency over developing a project in an environmentally responsible place that can actually be built," said Parker. "The compromise location would have avoided years of litigation and allowed this project to move forward."

Secretary Salazar left unaddressed the growing concerns in Massachusetts over the project's energy costs to ratepayers and its overall cost to taxpayers.

Earlier this month Rhode Island rejected a deal between National Grid and an offshore wind project that would have set a rate that was nearly triple the current cost for electricity. The electric utility tapped to buy power from Cape Wind, National Grid, has failed to reach a similar agreement on the cost to ratepayers of Cape Wind's energy.

Most estimates have put the cost of Cape Wind energy at two to three times the current rate for conventional power. This comes on top of the $10 billion ISO New England recently announced would be necessary to upgrade the region's electrical grid and transmission facilities as a result of Cape Wind and other wind projects.

Massachusetts Secretary of Energy and Environmental Affairs Ian Bowles recently expressed concern over the project's energy costs as did the state's largest business group, the Associated Industries of Massachusetts.

Consumer anger is also palpable. In a recent survey conducted by the University of Massachusetts, a majority of consumers said they would not pay more for electricity produced by wind turbines. Much of the support for wind energy was based on the false assumption that offshore wind will lower electric bills. At the projected Cape Wind power rate, nearly 80 percent of respondents registered opposition to the project.

http://www.necn.com/04/28/10/Cape-Wind-lawsuits-announced-/landing.html?blockID=225047&feedID=4215

Boogie man
04-28-2010, 08:15 PM
I thought enviros like the Kennedys would go for this like crazy. They wouldn't be so selfish and self centered to actually be against this only because it interferes with their view.

Pat
04-28-2010, 08:22 PM
I thought enviros like the Kennedys would go for this like crazy. They wouldn't be so selfish and self centered to actually be against this only because it interferes with their view.
Notice that it took the removal of Mr Kennedy from office for this to come about.

Hawkeye2j
04-28-2010, 08:55 PM
Notice that it took the removal of Mr Kennedy from office for this to come about.
Had nothing to do with it. It took that long for all the environmental studies to be completed. The governor always supported it as did most of Massachusetts.

doctordog
04-28-2010, 08:58 PM
Notice that it took the removal of Mr Kennedy from office for this to come about.

It had more to do with their being more wind in Massachusetts than anywhere else in the country including Beck and Limbaugh.:lmao2:

Revere
04-28-2010, 09:03 PM
It will double the per kilowatt hour cost of electricity and still require redundant traditionally fueled power plants.

Pat
04-28-2010, 09:07 PM
Had nothing to do with it. It took that long for all the environmental studies to be completed. The governor always supported it as did most of Massachusetts.
Funny, I always thought Mr Kennedy was a US Senator, not a Governor.
I'm pretty sure he blocked wind farms in MA via NIMBY legislation.

Pat
04-28-2010, 09:09 PM
Had nothing to do with it. It took that long for all the environmental studies to be completed. The governor always supported it as did most of Massachusetts.
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2006/04/27/kennedy_faces_fight_on_cape_wind/
snip,
Senator Edward M. Kennedy's bid to block the proposed Cape Cod wind energy project

Oh look, I'm right.

Hawkeye2j
04-28-2010, 09:23 PM
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2006/04/27/kennedy_faces_fight_on_cape_wind/
snip,


Oh look, I'm right.
I didn't say he didn't try to block it. I know he did. But even as he was trying to do so, he wasn't having any success.

Pat
04-28-2010, 09:35 PM
I didn't say he didn't try to block it. I know he did. But even as he was trying to do so, he wasn't having any success.
Indeed, you avoided actually addressing the facts.
Just more dodge, shuck and jive as per usual from you.

Independent Harry
04-28-2010, 09:35 PM
It will double the per kilowatt hour cost of electricity and still require redundant traditionally fueled power plants.

You have any proof of that? Or you just spouting opinions out of your ass like you normally do?

On another thought, awesom. Fuck the enviromentalists that are against this. And the fucking Indians...oh god, almost the entire country is a burial ground for them. If the site holds no archaelogical importance...continue on. Enviromentalists are retarded loons sometimes...we want cheaper, better power, that doens't polute, but you can't build it here...

Hawkeye2j
04-28-2010, 09:39 PM
Indeed, you avoided actually addressing the facts.
Just more dodge, shuck and jive as per usual from you.
I directly addressed all the facts. You are just putting more bullshit up because you can't dispute what I said. It is your MO Pat and others on this board are well aware of it.

Hawkeye2j
04-28-2010, 09:40 PM
You have any proof of that? Or you just spouting opinions out of your ass like you normally do?

On another thought, awesom. Fuck the enviromentalists that are against this. And the fucking Indians...oh god, almost the entire country is a burial ground for them. If the site holds no archaelogical importance...continue on. Enviromentalists are retarded loons sometimes...we want cheaper, better power, that doens't polute, but you can't build it here...
I'm with you Harry.

Boogie man
04-28-2010, 09:52 PM
I directly addressed all the facts. You are just putting more bullshit up because you can't dispute what I said. It is your MO Pat and others on this board are well aware of it.

Robert Kennedy Jr. runs around the nation spewing his alternative energy agenda, so why does he oppose this?

Pat
04-28-2010, 09:56 PM
I directly addressed all the facts. You are just putting more bullshit up because you can't dispute what I said. It is your MO Pat and others on this board are well aware of it.
Did you say governor because you thought Mr Kennedy was the governor, or did you say governor because you didn't want to address the fact that senator Kennedy blocked wind farms?
Either you are stupid, or dodging the point, which was it?

Boogie man
04-28-2010, 10:02 PM
Liberals never dodge the point.

Pat
04-28-2010, 10:08 PM
Liberals never dodge the point.
Especially with this one, since he says he lives in MA.

http://www.movieforum.com/people/actors/alecguinness/images/starwars.jpg
The stupid is strong with this one.

Moby
04-28-2010, 10:14 PM
It will double the per kilowatt hour cost of electricity and still require redundant traditionally fueled power plants.
Data to support this please. Or admit that you're lying.

doctordog
04-28-2010, 10:34 PM
Too many variables and this is a residential dependent on government subsidy, I suspect Revere is not far off using this 14 year paypack scenario.

The wind power payback period for any residential
wind system is determined by these five variables:

1. Wind speed at your location.

2. Tower height.

3. System cost - including installation.

4. Federal and State tax credits.

5. How much you pay per kWh for electricity.
When you consider the five factors, wind speed is the most important. Higher average
wind speeds generate more electricity. The more you reduce your electric bill, the quicker
the wind turbine will pay for itself.

A 20 foot increase in tower height, from 60 to 80 feet, can increase the output of your
wind turbine by as much as 36% and decrease the payback period by the same amount.

A 30% tax credit is currently available from the Federal government until December 31,
2016 for residential small wind energy systems. Additional rebates or energy tax credits
may also be available from your state.

Generally speaking, any homeowner paying less than $0.09 per kWh (kilowatt hour) for
electricity is not a good candidate for wind power.

The following chart shows a breakdown of individual costs associated with the purchase
and installation of a Skystream 3.7 wind power system. The system was installed by the
home owner and does not include the cost of labor. A professionally installed system
would add $2,000 - $5000 to the cost of parts and materials as shown below.

This is a grid-tied system, which means the electricity generated by the turbine goes
directly to your home. Grid-tied systems do not incorporate battery storage.
Alternative-Heating-Info.com
Skystream 3.7 Wind Turbine

Residential Wind Power Facts



Rooftop Wind Turbines: Do You Have What It Takes?



What Is Net Metering?

Raising A 33' Monopole Tower

Skystream 3.7 payback period
According to Southwest Windpower, the Skystream should generate 350kW of power
per month in wind speeds averaging 12 mph. At $0.15 per kWh for example, savings of
$52.50/mo, or $630 annually would be realized. Dividing the net cost of $9,036 by $630
in annual savings yields a 14 year payback.

Higher average wind speeds would shorten the payback period while lower wind speeds
would lengthen it. Likewise, if you pay more than the example $0.15/kWh for electricity
the payback period would shorten - less than $0.15/kWh and it would lengthen.

The payback estimate doesn't take into account the potential cash flow benefit of net
metering (the sale of unused power back to the grid) or inflated future energy costs.

Homeowners who install residential wind power systems, much like their solar
counterparts, have a long term strategy for reducing energy consumption coupled with
strong environmental concerns.

http://www.alternative-heating-info.com/windpower_payback.html