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Pat
04-25-2010, 08:46 PM
http://townhall.com/columnists/HumbertoFontova/2010/04/23/on_earth_day,_did_you_thank_a_hunter&Comments=true

On Earth Day, Did You Thank a Hunter?
by Humberto Fontova

In 1970, a Senator from Wisconsin named Gaylord Nelson raised his voice and called on every American to take action on behalf of the environment,” reads President Obama’s Earth Day proclamation. “In the four decades since, millions of Americans have heeded that call and joined together to protect the planet we share.”
Well, I’ve got news for our President. Millions of Americans who had never heard of Gaylord Nelson “took action on behalf of the environment,” decades before the good Senator “raised his voice.” More newsworthy still, most of these belonged to those insufferable rustics who “cling to guns and bibles.” To wit:

The Pittman-Robertson Act (1937) imposed an excise tax of 10 per cent on all hunting gear. Then the Dingell-Johnson act (1950) did the same for fishing gear. The Wallop-Breaux amendment (1984) extended the tax to the fuel for boats. All of this lucre goes to “protect the environment” in the form of buying and maintaining National Wildlife Refuges, along with state programs for buying and maintaining various forms of wildlife habitat.
For the last couple of decades hunters and fishermen have contributed over $1.5 billion per year towards Senator Gaylord Nelson’s lofty goal. To date, hunters and fishermen have shelled out over $20 billion “on behalf of the environment.” A study by the National Shooting Sports Foundation found that for every taxpayer dollar invested in wildlife conservation, hunters and fishermen contribute nine.
So please note: to "preserve nature," they don’t tax Birkenstock hiking boots and ying-yang pendants – but do tax my shotgun. They don’t tax yoga manuals and tofu tid-bits wrapped in recycled paper – but do tax my 30.06 deer rifle. They don’t tax binoculars or birding Field Guides with cutesy photos of the red-cockaded woodpecker and spotted Owl – but do tax the shotgun shells I blast at Mallards before arraying on my grill as Duck-K-Bobs (cooked rare and lovingly basted with plenty of butter, Cajun seasoning and teriyaki sauce).
Going further, they don’t tax kayaks and rock climbing picks and ropes – but do tax my compound bow and rifle scope. They don’t tax the plastic water bottles on Mountain bikes (or the mountain bike itself, come to think of it) or the cutesy spandex shorts these yo-yos wear – but do tax my duck decoys and camo pants. They don’t tax Yanni and Enya CDs – but do tax the arrows I fling at Bambi before he sizzles on my grill as Bambi-burger (lovingly draped with thick bacon slices that dribble their appetizing fat into the meat while cooking. Then a chunk of cheddar cheese melted on top.)
You talk about a "Cheeseburger in Paradise," Jimmy Buffet! Try one from Bambi!
Ten cents of every dollar I spent on my hunting and fishing toys (I'd cite the total but my wife might read this) funds Federal and State "conservation" programs. From my guns and ammo to my duck calls and decoys, from my rods and reels to my lures and gaffs, from my trolling motor to the very fuel for my outboard – ten cents of every dollar in this ghastly expenditure funds habitat for Spotted Owls, Red Cockaded Woodpeckers, Bald Eagles, Ospreys, Manatees, Snail darters, Black-Footed Ferrets, California Condors, Florida Panthers and Sea Otters.


None of these creatures (from what I hear) make a decent Gumbo or even a passable Chili. I must be crazy. But I have no choice. And this avalanche of tax dollars comes on top of those I fork over for the stacks of licenses, and permits and stamps I'm required to have before I set a foot afield or set my boat afloat. Last season these totaled $500. (But sweetie! There are huge fines for hunting and fishing without them!)
And all the above is on top of my voluntary dues and assorted donations to such as Ducks Unlimited. (But snookums! I thought you loved the duck print I brought home at 2: 45 AM from the DU Banquet/auction? And especially the picture of me with the nice Hooters girl who worked the keg in her camo bikini?) According to the National Shooting Sports Foundation these donations to such as DU, Pheasants Forever, etc. total $300,000 a year.
As mentioned, just last year, hunters and fishermen (not birdwatchers, not rock-climbers, not kayakers, not nature-hikers) "contributed" $1.5 billion "big ones" “dollarinies,” “donuts” (to quote Steve Martin as The Jerk) to purchase and maintain places for greenie-weenies to frolic and nature-watch.
You'd think some thanks might be in order from these freeloaders – from the smarmy crowd not forced to buy any "Bird-Watching stamp" or "Hiking stamp," or "Kayaking stamp," or "Rock Climbing Stamp," or Yanni-Listening Stamp" or "Quartz-Crystal-Gazing-Stamp." You'd think Tofu-munchers might appreciate us hunters' funding habitat for their spotted owls, kangaroo rats, snail darters and louseworts, and bankrolling the scenery on their "nature trails" as they self-righteously plod along in their "earth-friendly" Birkenstocks and granola-flecked frocks., quartz crystals rattling in their pockets en route to a hillside Sunrise worship, crystal-gaze and Enya-listen.
We pay our way – in fact, we pay the hikers and bird-watchers way, too. But rather than going afield as passive voyeurs, rather than regarding nature as a Disney cartoon, we accept nature's diktats. We revel in our role as full-fledged participants in her cycle of fang and claw (but add bullets, buckshot, broadheads, treble hooks and gaffs to the primal drama).
You'd think the voyeurs might throw us a bone every now and then? Well, think again. Here's the Sierra Club's official position: "Wild animals should not be valued principally in terms of whether they can serve as targets. As members of the family of life, we should respect the moral right of all creatures to exist, to be free of unnecessary predation, persecution and cruel and unduly confining captivity."
Anyway, you’re quite welcome, Greenies!

John Galt
04-25-2010, 08:55 PM
Not sure what planet the author lives on, but they do indeed tax all of those things he claimed that they don't.

As well, I've got thousands of dollars of fishing gear, and I don't pay any such special tax.

That said, the price for a fishing license in NY went up 10 bucks this year, to $30.00. That, after it went up 10 bucks a few years ago to $20.00.

That wouldn't bother me, if the money went to stocking programs, or anything related to wildlife.

Instead, in this fucked up state, most of the money goes into a slush fund, that NYC loves to tap into whenever they're broke.


I have no problem with those hunters/fishermen footing to bill for the programs that they take advantage of.

But...protecting the environment...especially in the decades since the time the OP references, is a lot more complicated than maintaining herds/fisheries.

Pat
04-25-2010, 09:02 PM
Not sure what planet the author lives on, but they do indeed tax all of those things he claimed that they don't.

Is there a specific tax geared towards the environment? If so, please cite the Acts to prove it, as the author of the article did to support his writings.
As well, I've got thousands of dollars of fishing gear, and I don't pay any such special tax.
Maybe you are just unaware of it.

That said, the price for a fishing license in NY went up 10 bucks this year, to $30.00. That, after it went up 10 bucks a few years ago to $20.00.

That wouldn't bother me, if the money went to stocking programs, or anything related to wildlife.

Instead, in this fucked up state, most of the money goes into a slush fund, that NYC loves to tap into whenever they're broke.


I have no problem with those hunters/fishermen footing to bill for the programs that they take advantage of.

But...protecting the environment...especially in the decades since the time the OP references, is a lot more complicated than maintaining herds/fisheries.

Bill Cosby
04-25-2010, 09:30 PM
Well on behalf of the kayakers & rafters- YOU REDNECK ANIMAL KILLING SOB'S CAN KISS MY TAX PASSING ASS...

While those evil blood thirsty "meat hunters" are out scrounging for a free meal the rest of us, including the birders & rock climbers are out purchasing our food in the store & allowing hard working Americans (opposed to helpless seals & bambi's) a living.........

Those poor illegals are working their butts off to insure we have good, cheap food so we don't need to go out & strut our manhood on the defenseless animal kingdom........

I would also imagine that those of us engaging in non blood sports pay more taxes then the average trailer dwelling savages out there killing animals & lots of keystone ice.....:thumbsup:

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Pat
04-25-2010, 09:43 PM
Well on behalf of the kayakers & rafters- YOU REDNECK ANIMAL KILLING SOB'S CAN KISS MY TAX PASSING ASS...

While those evil blood thirsty "meat hunters" are out scrounging for a free meal the rest of us, including the birders & rock climbers are out purchasing our food in the store & allowing hard working Americans (opposed to helpless seals & bambi's) a living.........

Those poor illegals are working their butts off to insure we have good, cheap food so we don't need to go out & strut our manhood on the defenseless animal kingdom........

I would also imagine that those of us engaging in non blood sports pay more taxes then the average trailer dwelling savages out there killing animals & lots of keystone ice.....:thumbsup:

Got any more stereotypes you want to get off your chest?

MintJulep
04-25-2010, 09:56 PM
Got any more stereotypes you want to get off your chest?Speaking of big guns, I see you are loaded for bear tonight, Pat. :lmao2:

John Galt
04-25-2010, 09:59 PM
The Pittman-Robertson Wildlife Restoration Act authorizes the Secretary of the Interior to cooperate with the States, through their respective State fish and game departments, in wildlife-restoration projects. However, per statute, no money apportioned under this chapter to any state shall be expended until the state in question assents to the provisions of this chapter and has passed laws for the conservation of wildlife, which includes a prohibition against the diversion of license fees paid by hunters for any other purpose than the administration of said state's fish and game department. The Act also provides for grants for hunter education programs and a mechanism for a multi-state conservation grant program

I guess that leaves NY out of the equation. I'm guessing there are others.


(1) the term "conservation" means the use of methods and procedures necessary or desirable to sustain healthy populations of wildlife, including all activities associated with scientific resources management such as research, census, monitoring of populations, acquisition, improvement and management of habitat, live trapping and transplantation, wildlife damage management, and periodic or total protection of a species or population, as well as the taking of individuals within wildlife stock or population if permitted by applicable State and Federal law;

That includes these populations as well:
ten cents of every dollar in this ghastly expenditure funds habitat for Spotted Owls, Red Cockaded Woodpeckers, Bald Eagles, Ospreys, Manatees, Snail darters, Black-Footed Ferrets, California Condors, Florida Panthers and Sea Otters.


None of these creatures (from what I hear) make a decent Gumbo or even a passable Chili. I must be crazy

You see...conservation is about assuring a habitat for all creatures, not just the ones that the rednecks deem 'edible'.

Caring for the environment, includes keeping these habitats clean, so that not only can wildlife survive, but they won't kill the hunters/fishermen if they dare to consume them.

Sadly, coal fired power plants have made that a fanasy in the Northeast.

Caring for the environment goes a lot deeper than maintaining herds/fisheries. It includes regulations on corporations that find it cheaper to pay fines, than to tend to their filth legally.

It means educating the hunters/fishermen who leave tons of debris behind, when they leave the woods/lakes/rivers.

You can learn a lot from a yoga practicing tree hugger.

Bill Cosby
04-25-2010, 10:07 PM
Got any more stereotypes you want to get off your chest?

No that will do for now.......:lmao2:

I occasionally fish & have friends that hunt, I personally do not like it..

I was just having fun w/ it, I really have nothing against you ppl & your "life style".........:lmao2:

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Pat
04-25-2010, 10:13 PM
No that will do for now.......:lmao2:

I occasionally fish & have friends that hunt, I personally do not like it..

I was just having fun w/ it, I really have nothing against you ppl & your "life style".........:lmao2:

I don't hunt, but I do fish.
Funny, but I work in the IT department for a fortune 500 company, and quite a few of those "IT geeks" are hunters, so please tell me what "lifestyle" you are referring to.

Pat
04-25-2010, 10:14 PM
Speaking of big guns, I see you are loaded for bear tonight, Pat. :lmao2:
It's the block and tackle whiskey.
After a few drinks, you'll walk a block and tackle anything. :D

MintJulep
04-25-2010, 11:08 PM
You need to drink that whiskey every time you post here. You kick ass and take names more than usual when you are PWI.

Bill Cosby
04-26-2010, 12:11 AM
I don't hunt, but I do fish.
Funny, but I work in the IT department for a fortune 500 company, and quite a few of those "IT geeks" are hunters, so please tell me what "lifestyle" you are referring to.

Killa lifestyle..............:disbelief:

Geeks kill to.........:lmao2:

Most geeks I know prefer to kill in cyber space........

Linkster
04-26-2010, 12:16 AM
Its funny that I go out and do clean up after these idiots that get drunk and then hunt - and sometimes that cleanup is another hunter they shot. I have nothing against hunting - I have alot against stupidity.