Is Hillary Clinton unstoppable?

[stnmann]

It is quite clear from the following picture that a Clinton follows every Bush, so what's to say that she is not going to be the next President of the United States?


http://surftofind.com/president

[Jennifer]

I'd rather have Hitler. At least he didn't spin where he stood.


If Hillary gets the nomination, I can see the chant going up "Anyone but Hillary." Besides, she already had 8 years in office. Who do you think ran the white house while bill was raping women and stealing FBI files on his enemies?

[stnmann]

I don't know, I kinda like this picture.

We all know what a dog looks like, don't we?

Hillary Clinton has already claimed the 44th President of the United States slot, guess we have to predict #45 now.


http://surftofind.com/44

[Jennifer]

I'd rather have Condy Rice for President. She's female and has worked in the White House, thus she has all the same credentials as Hillary. And she's black, so she's been repressed and needs bonus points!

[mwillman]

I dont think Hillary would be my first choice but I am dieing to see a Hillary /Obama ticket win just to see all the rednecks have a heart attack when a Woman and a Black man are running this nation.

I do know that the nation will be under saner hands then it is today.

[stnmann]

You have got to be kidding, Rice is the biggest airhead in the Bush administration. I even like Rove better than her.

No wonder Hillary is going to win hands down.

http://surftofind.com/44

[Jennifer]

Obama / Hillary would be better, not good, but better.


Anyway, we already had a black man run this country, Bill Clinton!

[mwillman]

I agree with you there Jennifer.

My preference would be an Obama/Clinton ticket but I can live with the other if thats the way the vote rolls.

As for Bill being Black, as cute as that sounds its just not true.

[stnmann]

I like truth and there's a great deal in here:

http://surftofind.com/44

Time to vote for the truth and truth is, nobody is more qualified to be the President of the United states than Hillary Clinton is.

TIME FOR EXPERIENCE IN THE WHITE HOUSE.

[disrupter]

Jennifer:
I'd rather have Hitler.

Gosh he was good for germany, wasn't he?

Nothing is unstoppable,
that said it is looking, sadly inevitable.

Kucinich or Edwards would get my willing vote.

With Hillary i will probably hold my nose, as with Kerry, & vote yes.

If Ron Paul magically became the Republican nominee i would consider him.

Guiliani is just a trumped up police state fascist.
Overhyped on the mythical 'war on terrorism'
he is immediately responsible for the deaths of hundreds of firefighters on 911. Knowingly gave them shit radios. When they got the call to evacuate the north tower, those poor men never heard it & died. he has their blood on his hands. Police got the 2nd tower call & heard it & survived.

Further, Guiliani blamed the troops for the failure to subdue iraq.
he's an asshole, & as a certified asshole i can confirm it from the official roster list.

I hope no one minds how shy i am about expressing my opinions.

[Jennifer]

I agree with you there Jennifer.

My preference would be an Obama/Clinton ticket but I can live with the other if thats the way the vote rolls.

As for Bill being Black, as cute as that sounds its just not true.


No, but he is lauded as being the first black president.



Furthermore, she cannot both claim experience in the white house and keep all records of what she did in the white house locked up. She either needs to release those documents, or stop saying she has any experience. Because, from where I sit, her only experience is the Senate and Obama has that, so does Thompson and Edwards and others even more so then she does.

[disrupter]

A supporter of the neocons is saying the/a/any whitehouse should release documents?

how about contempt of congress for non-testifying?

how about an unconstitutional, illegal program to spy on your phone calls?

this is just too rich.

this is not a double standard,
this is a triple summi with a pike to a half twist with 3 counter rotations standard, lol

otherwise known as the weasel-squirm.

[mwillman]

Disruptor

I agree with you on Guilliani, I lived in New York when he was Major and he was a corporate sell out.

Kucinich is a good man but he will never be president.

I like Edwards as well but I dont think he has what it takes to win. At least not in the money driven system we have now.

For me Obama represents change much better then Hillary who is really just a vote for the 90's in many ways.

Personally I would rather have someone thats not so in bed with the corporate elite. I still dont trust NAFTA and I am very skeptical of Globalisation without a healthy bias against Corporate globalism.

[stnmann]

America is not ready for sombody with 2 first names it's too confusing.

it's Hillary, all the way:

http://surftofind.com/44

You can make a-lot of money on this sure bet !

[disrupter]

I would look at Obama,

but for now i have one question, 'Where's the beef?'

it is great that he managed to vote against this damn fool invasion of iraq when Hillary & others didn't, but he better come up with some kind of adult positions & rationales for them.

I have no plans for buying a pig in a poke.

Grace is great to look at but if it doesn't have any teeth it can't survive.
If he is all gloss & no intellectual teeth & bones America would be a damn fool to vote for him. I don't vote for anything till i see some god damn teeth &/or bones.

Cults of personality are incredibly risky & 9 times out of 10 they are anywhere from bad to disasterous.

If you have some racist hang up that deludes yourself that you are absolving yourself of racism by voting for a 'black' president you are neurotic.

had a whole ration load of neurotic religion & corporate corruption with bush,

Just say no to neurosis.

PS. voting for Hillary because she is a 'woman' is equally neurotic

I realize we have a lot of religious right neurotics, which are a threat to this nation,
but we don't need counter-neurosis, we need relatively neurosis-free thinking & action.

Either they got goods i will buy or they don't get my vote.

[mwillman]

I agree completely with you disruptor.

I have had respect for Obama and Hilary since long before either decided to run for president.

I would never vote for someone based on thier sex or color although I will say its about time that a qualified person won the presidency who isn't a white man.

It would be a breath of fresh air and show the world that we are not as backwards as the present president seems to imply.

Hell even Pakistan has had a female prime minister.

P.S. I am a whilte man.

[disrupter]

As a gay white male i don't think i have to prove too much of anything to anyone.

Hillary is gratingly cynical. Maybe somewhere deep behind that stony edifice is a small heart of caring goodness, but i don't want to have to wait a couple of decades for its tiny, stingy little fruits to surface.

I fear a lot of women will vote for her because they IMO mistakenly think that she has some kind of caring instincts. What pudding i've seen so far has zippo proof in it.

I've seen all the most recently outed gay republican neocons, trust me, being gay is absolutely no reason they would get my vote.

George Bush & the NeoCons is way too much cynical operation in Washington,
look where it has gotten us.

Hard headed is fine, but when you begin to believe in evil & wickedness you are cynical. She is one of those 'the universe revolves around me' types. there may be a universe that revolves around her, but rest assured it is not a good universe.

[mwillman]

I don't think shes like that at all.

Its true shes ambitious but that doesn't bother me. As for cold and cynical well TV isnt the best place to see the real person and truth be told I would rather have a cynical president then a foolish one.

[Jennifer]

Contempt of congress??? You ever hear of Executive Privilege? You do know that the President and his staff does not answer to Congress. Congress can file impeachment proceedings and let the Supreme Court decide to remove a president, but he does not answer to Congress.

Furthermore, what about a certain president who lied, obstructed justice, blackmailed US citizens, sold military secrets to the Communist Chinese for campaign contributions, raped, threatened rape, assisted in a pyramid / ponzi scheme to defraud senior citizens out of their life savings and who's wife is currently seeking to have the same office she, basically, already had for 8 years?

Remember their campaign? If you elect me, you also elect my wife, two presidents for the price of one! Let's hold them too it. She was president for 8 years, she can't run again. :)


At least we finally have a real conservative in the race, however. The crop we had up to last night were a bunch of liberal wannabe's. Just like President Bush, passes every piece of liberal legislation that they send him like a rubber stamp machine.

Anyway, if she wants to run on her "record" and her "experience" in the White House, then she should release the documents pertaining to her record and experience.

[mwillman]

Oh my god. Are you for real jennifer?

What right wing organization pays you to come on these forums and make such insane statements?

You are pretty good at making crap into pie but in the end its still crap.

[Jennifer]

Oh my god. Are you for real jennifer?

What right wing organization pays you to come on these forums and make such insane statements?




Yea, insane statements, like reading the US Constitution and pointing out what's written there and reading the Federalist and Anti-Federalist papers and pointing out what's written there.

Have you ever taken a US Government class? Are you sure you're even American? Why is it a Russian national who immigrated has to teach you Americans about your own government?

[mwillman]

Why dont you just vomit in my mouth.

The big lie is the worst form of political retoric and those that use it are nothing more then sophists.