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Scottbrown2012
04-17-2010, 03:13 PM
WASHINGTON — Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell this week threw a rhetorical stick of dynamite into what had been a collegial debate about overhauling the nation's financial regulations, triggering criticism and confusion about what the usually careful Kentucky senator was doing.

McConnell says that he was reacting strongly to concerns from Kentucky bankers, as well as to a Democratic effort to shut Republicans out of the process.

However, critics say it was no coincidence that his blasts came after he met with Wall Street executives, and that his comments mirrored advice from Republican strategist Frank Luntz on how best to defeat the Democrats' legislation.

Leaders of both parties had vowed for months that consideration of financial regulatory changes wouldn't mirror the angry, partisan debates over health care and stimulating the economy. Everyone agreed that voters want tough new restrictions on Wall Street, and the legislation that the Senate is to take up later this month is full of bipartisan ideas.

Then came McConnell's barrage. On Tuesday, the day before a bipartisan White House meeting on the bill, the Kentucky senator charged that, "All the signs from the White House are that they're not interested in talking." On Wednesday, he insisted that the Democratic bill would encourage bailouts for big institutions, which it doesn't.

McConnell was out of sync with other key Republican players. While voicing support for McConnell's views, they insisted that they wanted to work with Democrats.

"Let's quit yelling at each other," Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn., urged colleagues. Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala., the top Banking Committee Republican, said all week that bipartisan talks were continuing.

So what's behind McConnell's sudden burst of partisanship?

He blamed the Democrats, saying that the White House told them to stop cooperating with Republicans over how to police the market for derivatives, the complex financial instruments that helped trigger the global debacle. Several powerful interests that deal in derivatives, including energy, financial and agricultural groups, are wary of the Democrats' plan.

"I'd like to see a bill," McConnell said. "But what we have now is a flawed bill that needs to be fixed, and I got calls from my members saying that talks were over."

"The White House is running everything with this bill, and they've decided to take a political tack," said Tripp Baird, once an aide to former Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott, R-Miss. "What you're seeing from McConnell is we're not going to be a part of this. Republicans have finally seen the light after health care."

White House officials deny that they tried to cut off bipartisan talks, but they also say they won't compromise with efforts to weaken the bill.

President Barack Obama took a hard line Friday on derivatives, saying he'd veto any bill "that does not bring the derivatives market under control in some sort of regulatory framework and assures that we do not have the same sort of mess that we've seen in the past."

Critics alleged that there was a connection between a trip that McConnell and Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, the chairman of the Republican Senate campaign committee, took to New York City last week for meetings and fundraisers with Wall Street executives.

In one instance, the two met with hedge fund investors for about an hour, urged listeners to understand the GOP position on financial overhaul — and asked them to consider donating money. The senators also raised money at KKR, a major private equity firm.

"He's raising money from investment bankers and hedge fund managers in return for policy," said Larry Forgy, a Lexington, Ky., political observer and attorney. "I have always felt these decisions of a major policy nature should not be combined with fundraising campaigns as he appears to be conducting in New York. I don't think the average person in Kentucky has a damn bit of sympathy for hedge fund managers."

In an interview with McClatchy, McConnell denied any connection between the trip and his legislative strategy.

"I've had concerns about this legislation for quite awhile," he said. "Democrats have had no conversation with these people?" To say he was influenced by these meetings, McConnell said, "is quite a stretch."

According to the Center for Responsive Politics, which compiles campaign finance data, 56 percent of the $116.6 million raised from the finance, real estate and insurance sector during the current election cycle has gone to Democrats.

Senate Banking Committee Chairman Christopher Dodd, D-Conn., saw other motives behind McConnell's aggressiveness. Dodd cited similarities behind McConnell's remarks and "the false talking point that Luntz has been proposing."

In a January memo, Luntz, a veteran Republican strategist, suggested a list of "words to use" when opposing financial overhaul legislation, including, on page 17, "big bank bailout bill." Luntz couldn't be reached for comment.

McConnell said in a Wednesday floor speech: "As a factual matter, the bill creates bailout funds, authorizes bailouts, allows for backdoor bailouts in the FDIC (Federal Deposit Insurance Corp.), Treasury and the Fed and even expands the scope of future bailouts."

Democratic lawmakers and Obama administration officials say that's not true. They say the bill would empower federal regulators to take over and shut down financial institutions, much as the FDIC already does for commercial banks, not bail them out.

The Senate bill would create a $50 billion fund — the House of Representatives version would be $150 billion — to help dissolve troubled financial institutions. However, the money would come from assessments on large financial firms, not from taxpayers. McConnell said he's referring not just to that fund, but also to other provisions in the bill.

"Frank Luntz had no influence on my views," McConnell said. "But Kentucky community bankers have a lot of influence my views," and they've expressed concern about the bill.

"It's clear to us that Senator Dodd has no interest in coming up with any kind of compromise legislation at this stage, and the bill is atrocious as far as Kentucky bankers are concerned," said Ballard Cassady, the president and chief executive officer of the Kentucky Bankers Association, which represents about 200 banks with average assets of $125 million.

McConnell and his defenders say he's simply doing what he thinks is proper.

" . . . At the end of the day, I think he would look back and say, 'I did what I thought was right every single time'," said Scott Jennings, a strategist at a Louisville public relations firm and a former Bush administration official.

Perhaps, but McConnell's stance carries some political risk.

"No one wants to be painted as too pro-Wall Street and pro-banking," said Gary Jacobson, a professor of political science at the University of California San Diego. "You want to be the champion of the little guy."

Next week, Republicans will try to put back the pieces of their bipartisan initiative. McConnell said that's fine with him, but warned: "We start with a different premise. This is something where there's a widespread view that we do not every again want to see taxpayer money used to bail out these firms."


Read more: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/04/16/92362/whys-sen-mcconnell-going-ballistic.html#ixzz0lO16TTr5

doctordog
04-17-2010, 10:13 PM
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell is catching hell from the Washington establishment for having the temerity to tell the truth about the fine print in the Obama-Dodd Wall Street reform bill. McConnell is raising alarms about the proposal's provision to make Washington bailouts a permanent feature: "It's almost as if the people who wrote this bill took the pulse of the American people and then put together a bill that endorses the very things they found most repugnant about the first bailout." The Democrats have responded with a lot of jive. The bill's chief sponsor, Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., claims his proposal "will end bailouts." The GOP leader is also being flailed by liberal journalists like Steven Pearlstein of the Washington Post who during a recent WTOP interview accused McConnell of lying about the Dodd bill.

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/Memo-to-Washington_-No-more-bailouts-91084419.html#ixzz0lPiuVeMS

Libertarian94
04-17-2010, 11:12 PM
I would like to see the actual bill first... If this puts an end to corporatism I would be happy with it. As we all know the bitch is in the details.

Smurf-Herder
04-18-2010, 11:16 AM
From your article:

"They say the bill would empower federal regulators to take over and shut down financial institutions, much as the FDIC already does for commercial banks, not bail them out."


And here's a little insight into that:

"In other words, this is another huge step toward fascistic corporatism, completing a de facto government takeover of today’s nominally “private” financial firms. These corporations would be reduced to the status of politically managed public utilities."

"...this will give unfair market advantages to big, politically connected corporations over smaller, politically unfavored competitors. And that, in turn, will completely distort the financial-services marketplace, creating the false impression that large, government-backed institutions—like AIG, Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac—are inherently safer for investors and lenders than their smaller rivals. That can only encourage the consolidation of the financial-services sectors into a few gigantic monopolistic institutions, adding to the “moral hazard” problem of rewarding irresponsible businesses at the expense of their responsible competitors."

http://biggovernment.com/rbidinotto/2010/04/16/a-government-takeover-of-the-financial-sector/

In other words, what everybody against it is saying is, it allows DC to regulate the financial industry to such an exent that it can take over any company directly to any extent it wants, who shows any possibility of potentially going in the red in the future, if it in some way has enough impact that they bothered to regulate them in the first place; according to the wording in the current bill.

CommonCents
04-18-2010, 11:43 AM
This is always the strategy of the left. Use simplistic, surface arguments to denigrate their opponents, and completely ignore the big picture.

They've been doing this for 100 years and I don't see it stopping any time soon. The good news though, is the American people are starting to figure it out, thanks to the boldness of the Obama administration.

MintJulep
04-18-2010, 01:18 PM
From your article:

"They say the bill would empower federal regulators to take over and shut down financial institutions, much as the FDIC already does for commercial banks, not bail them out."


And here's a little insight into that:

"In other words, this is another huge step toward fascistic corporatism, completing a de facto government takeover of today’s nominally “private” financial firms. These corporations would be reduced to the status of politically managed public utilities."

"...this will give unfair market advantages to big, politically connected corporations over smaller, politically unfavored competitors. And that, in turn, will completely distort the financial-services marketplace, creating the false impression that large, government-backed institutions—like AIG, Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac—are inherently safer for investors and lenders than their smaller rivals. That can only encourage the consolidation of the financial-services sectors into a few gigantic monopolistic institutions, adding to the “moral hazard” problem of rewarding irresponsible businesses at the expense of their responsible competitors."

http://biggovernment.com/rbidinotto/2010/04/16/a-government-takeover-of-the-financial-sector/

In other words, what everybody against it is saying is, it allows DC to regulate the financial industry to such an exent that it can take over any company directly to any extent it wants, who shows any possibility of potentially going in the red in the future, if it in some way has enough impact that they bothered to regulate them in the first place; according to the wording in the current bill.Excellent work, Smurf.

Scottbrown2012
04-18-2010, 04:24 PM
very good opinion piece here..I agree 100 percent.:D

Submitted by BuzzFlash on Sun, 04/18/2010 - 11:36am.


This weeks whooper award goes to Mitch McConnell for his mind-bending interpretation of the administration’s proposed financial services reform legislation:

“We cannot allow endless taxpayer-funded bailouts, That’s why we must not pass the financial reform bill that’s about to hit the floor. The fact is, this bill wouldn’t solve the problems that led to the financial crisis. It would make them worse. It will, in fact, lead to endless bank bailouts...”

This little gem rolled off McConnell’s lips just days after he met in New York with well-heeled financial service executives at a fundraiser-- during which McConnell assured them the GOP would kill any new legislation that burdened Wall Street firms with new regulation or enhanced government oversight.

The truth, of course, is exactly the opposite of what McConnell claimed. The proposed legislation requires those who want to play in financial services honey-pot to form and fund their own crisis fund, much like the fund that has served banks and thrifts since the Great Depression, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp (FDIC).

Every dime of money put in this fund to be used to stop the crash of one formerly “too big to fail” firm from knocking over other dominos, would come exclusively from this industry capitalized fund, managed by the Fed. No taxpayer dough... not a dime, not a penny, not an IOU.

But wait, there’s more.

Even though the money in this fund comes exclusively from the financial service firms contributing to it, none of it would be used to prop up a failing firm. Instead the failing financial services company would first have to be liquidated. The money in the fund would be used to conduct a controlled liquidation of the company and to repay innocent vendors and customers impacted by such a failure. The company itself would be taken out behind the Federal Reserve’s barn and put out of our misery. This would assure that the only injured parties would be those responsible for mess they created; company executives, shareholders and bondholders. Re-introducing real risk into the equation that way will assure that the next time a bubble starts expanding, “irrational exuberance” and just plain blinding greed, will be balanced by a healthy dose of fear. (It’s call Moral Hazard, and it’s a good thing when it’s balanced by the real prospect of real personal hazard.)

So, there were really two whoopers out of the GOP this week:

1) Calling this section of financial reform, a formula for “endless bailouts” is wrong. The correct description would be "controlled liquidations” of failed or failing companies.
2) And call these industry-funded liquidations “taxpayer bailouts” is simply a flat out lie.

So we have to stay on top of these Orwellian GOP lies. Remember how much traction they got on that “death panel” nonsense during the health care debate? Progressives figured that gross mischaracterization of what were really just routine end-of-life counseling would be rejected by reasoning Americans. We were wrong -- on both counts. It turned out the number of reasoning Americans is distressingly lower than we assumed.

STEPHEN PIZZO FOR BUZZFLASH
http://blog.buzzflash.com/contributors/3152

doctordog
04-18-2010, 04:44 PM
I suggest we merge this with the other thread you started on the same subject where Smurf's post was to the point.

Scottbrown2012
04-18-2010, 04:47 PM
I suggest we merge this with the other thread you started on the same subject where Smurf's post was to the point.
Go ahead..have smurf do that...doesnt bother me at all..didnt think about that when I posted it.:thumbsup:

Bill Cosby
04-18-2010, 05:07 PM
???? So if it is not a public bailout then who is bailing them out???

They are going to take our money to do it------ The O' passing the buck along to the public??? SO it may not come via tax, it will none the less come..

They will not use their money or profits......... They will get their bonuses no matter what............

What about REpassing some of those O' evil restrictions that were put in place during the depression & worked quite well till these "smart ppl" came along & thought they new better.............

????????????

Scottbrown2012
04-18-2010, 05:11 PM
???? So if it is not a public bailout then who is bailing them out???

They are going to take our money to do it------ The O' passing the buck along to the public??? SO it may not come via tax, it will none the less come..

They will not use their money or profits......... They will get their bonuses no matter what............

What about REpassing some of those O' evil restrictions that were put in place during the depression & worked quite well till these "smart ppl" came along & thought they new better.............

????????????
not trying to be rude but I thought the article explained it well but maybe thats just me:dunno:

Bill Cosby
04-18-2010, 05:17 PM
Well it seems to me they win either way & we take the loss....

They must not be allowed to do some of the same stuff they have been allowed to do..........

No corp should be to big to fail........... Break them up if need be to insure that........

mrmeangenes
04-18-2010, 06:47 PM
Bill, that's EXACTLY what the legislation is intended to do; and, like the FDIC,the liquidation funds are bank originated.

Pat
04-18-2010, 09:40 PM
From your article:

"They say the bill would empower federal regulators to take over and shut down financial institutions, much as the FDIC already does for commercial banks, not bail them out."


And here's a little insight into that:

"In other words, this is another huge step toward fascistic corporatism, completing a de facto government takeover of today’s nominally “private” financial firms. These corporations would be reduced to the status of politically managed public utilities."

"...this will give unfair market advantages to big, politically connected corporations over smaller, politically unfavored competitors. And that, in turn, will completely distort the financial-services marketplace, creating the false impression that large, government-backed institutions—like AIG, Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac—are inherently safer for investors and lenders than their smaller rivals. That can only encourage the consolidation of the financial-services sectors into a few gigantic monopolistic institutions, adding to the “moral hazard” problem of rewarding irresponsible businesses at the expense of their responsible competitors."

http://biggovernment.com/rbidinotto/2010/04/16/a-government-takeover-of-the-financial-sector/

In other words, what everybody against it is saying is, it allows DC to regulate the financial industry to such an exent that it can take over any company directly to any extent it wants, who shows any possibility of potentially going in the red in the future, if it in some way has enough impact that they bothered to regulate them in the first place; according to the wording in the current bill.
The financial industry is already one of the most highly regulated industries in the US. Some have blamed deregulation on the mess we are in, but despite the deregulation, it still remains more regulated than most industries.
The idiots in government would want us to think that more of the same thing that got us into this mess will yield different results.
The biggest financial boondoggle in the US is social security. Why should we give government any control over anything else financial after the way they've messed that up?
Intelligent people don't need the government to wipe their ass for them.

Smurf-Herder
04-19-2010, 07:40 PM
Bill, that's EXACTLY what the legislation is intended to do; and, like the FDIC,the liquidation funds are bank originated.

It sets up a permanent slush fund and gives the executive branch total control, through the mechanism of the regulation.

Smurf-Herder
04-19-2010, 07:42 PM
The financial industry is already one of the most highly regulated industries in the US. Some have blamed deregulation on the mess we are in, but despite the deregulation, it still remains more regulated than most industries.
The idiots in government would want us to think that more of the same thing that got us into this mess will yield different results.
The biggest financial boondoggle in the US is social security. Why should we give government any control over anything else financial after the way they've messed that up?
Intelligent people don't need the government to wipe their ass for them.

It seems like a constant thing, since Obama got in. Every time you turn around something new is a crisis, that can only be fixed by the executive branch getting as direct a control as possible.

MintJulep
04-19-2010, 07:55 PM
Intelligent people don't need the government to wipe their ass for them.:lmao2: :lmao2:

:thumbsup:

Bill Cosby
04-19-2010, 10:16 PM
The financial industry is already one of the most highly regulated industries in the US. Some have blamed deregulation on the mess we are in, but despite the deregulation, it still remains more regulated than most industries.
The idiots in government would want us to think that more of the same thing that got us into this mess will yield different results.
The biggest financial boondoggle in the US is social security. Why should we give government any control over anything else financial after the way they've messed that up?
Intelligent people don't need the government to wipe their ass for them.


???? The issue would seem to be better regulations not more regulations.....

Bill Cosby
04-19-2010, 10:20 PM
Bill, that's EXACTLY what the legislation is intended to do; and, like the FDIC,the liquidation funds are bank originated.

Yep.......... As of now, & from all I have heard preventing this from happening again............ IS NOT HAPPENING

Obama has the same same fools that got us into this working to get us out???:lmao2: :lmao2:

They need to have laws, such as they had since the great depression that do not allow certain institutions to engage in certain activities. PERIOD!!!

All the bull shit about punishing them etc............. Nothing ever happens to those kinda ppl............. They get away w/ taking millions & billions & are held unaccountable........

DO NOT LET THEM PUT THEIR DIRTY THIEVING HANDS IN THE COOKIE JAR TO BEGIN W/........

Revere
04-19-2010, 11:30 PM
???? The issue would seem to be better regulations not more regulations.....

But that's not how it works anymore, is it?

Bill Cosby
04-19-2010, 11:50 PM
But that's not how it works anymore, is it?

I guess that depends on who you ask..........

I think lots of folk$ are finding it working real nice for them.......:thumbsup: