Bad news for Republicans

[Hawkeye2j]

As the economy goes, so goes the Democrats fortunes for November.

A flurry of reports out Wednesday suggested that many Americans are feeling better about the economic rebound.
Retail spending rose sharply and more than expected. Consumer inflation remains all but invisible. Businesses are boosting their stockpiles in anticipation of higher shopper demand.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100414/ap_on_bi_go_ec_fi/us_economy

[CommonCents]

As the economy goes, so goes the Democrats fortunes for November.

A flurry of reports out Wednesday suggested that many Americans are feeling better about the economic rebound.
Retail spending rose sharply and more than expected. Consumer inflation remains all but invisible. Businesses are boosting their stockpiles in anticipation of higher shopper demand.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100414/ap_on_bi_go_ec_fi/us_economy

Well there you have it! It's a done deal, and the democrats will continue to control Washington.

So if I were you, I would trash the Tea Party protesters more, and call for the democrats in congress to pull out all the stops, and go whole hog toward socialism. I mean it's clear that the American people are behind you, as this booming economic news proves.

I'd push for Amnesty for all and get that wonderful Cap & Trade bill pushed through and signed into law... And do it all before November, so you can secure even larger majorities in the house and senate.

GO BABY GO!

:lmao2:

[Citizen]

As the economy goes, so goes the Democrats fortunes for November.

A flurry of reports out Wednesday suggested that many Americans are feeling better about the economic rebound.
Retail spending rose sharply and more than expected. Consumer inflation remains all but invisible. Businesses are boosting their stockpiles in anticipation of higher shopper demand.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100414/ap_on_bi_go_ec_fi/us_economy

I scratched my balls the other day and it made me feel better too. Doesn't change the fact the economy sucks and will continue to suck until this Marxist is out of office.

[Scottbrown2012]

I scratched my balls the other day and it made me feel better too. Doesn't change the fact the economy sucks and will continue to suck until this Marxist is out of office.
And its another day and your still an angry bitter man.

[Lazarus]

I scratched my balls the other day and it made me feel better too. Doesn't change the fact the economy sucks and will continue to suck until this Marxist is out of office.

Oh. I "hope" the economy "changes" for the better ASAP. Don't you want to see a quick turnaround? If you don't, I would have to ask the question WHY? Could it be political? The Republicans would like to see everything stagnate so they can have the best chance in November. That's TREASON!

[Hawkeye2j]

I scratched my balls the other day and it made me feel better too. Doesn't change the fact the economy sucks and will continue to suck until this Marxist is out of office.
You are a sick man. Seek help

[Kanadesaga]

Oh. I "hope" the economy "changes" for the better ASAP. Don't you want to see a quick turnaround? If you don't, I would have to ask the question WHY? Could it be political? The Republicans would like to see everything stagnate so they can have the best chance in November. That's TREASON!


No, that's politics. Taking money from lobbyists is treason. They use to hang pirates at the entrance to a port, they use to hang traitor's heads on spikes on the Tower of London,. I'd like to see some gallows erected next to the Capitol. As a reminder to those elected officials who feel DC is a money making opportuninty and not to do the people's business.

[Citizen]

And its another day and your still an angry bitter man.

Discussing the decisions of the future of millions of American lives is no laughing matter but as your post reflects to the typical leftist is it a laughing matter. Who needs to worry about consequences when you have your blind agenda and propaganda? You have slowly poisoned our society to the point where more and more people are going to suffer. But hey let's all just joke about their lives like its no big deal. "Meh... unemployment still sucks but who cares lets make tea party jokes!" Its sad.

[Kanadesaga]

I scratched my balls the other day and it made me feel better too. Doesn't change the fact the economy sucks and will continue to suck until this Marxist is out of office.


HEY! You finally found them!

[MintJulep]

Well there you have it! It's a done deal, and the democrats will continue to control Washington.

So if I were you, I would trash the Tea Party protesters more, and call for the democrats in congress to pull out all the stops, and go whole hog toward socialism. I mean it's clear that the American people are behind you, as this booming economic news proves.

I'd push for Amnesty for all and get that wonderful Cap & Trade bill pushed through and signed into law... And do it all before November, so you can secure even larger majorities in the house and senate.

GO BABY GO!

:lmao2::thumbsup:

:lmao2:

[John Galt]

HEY! You finally found them!
Well...he is a teabagger...

[Kanadesaga]

Well...he is a teabagger...


:thumbsup:

[CommonCents]

Well...he is a teabagger...

Why is it you people are so preoccupied with homosexual dick suckers?

[Hawkeye2j]

Why is it you people are so preoccupied with homosexual dick suckers?
Why is it that you don't understand that teabaggers are not necessarily homosexual?

[Citizen]

Well...he is a teabagger...

Prove it. Oh you can't? Typical for a leftist who can never prove anything.

[CommonCents]

Why is it that you don't understand that teabaggers are not necessarily homosexual?

At least you admit the derogatory nature of that disgusting label liberals are using to define American patriots. There's hope for you yet.

[Hawkeye2j]

At least you admit the derogatory nature of that disgusting label liberals are using to define American patriots. There's hope for you yet.
Well they shouldn't have given themselves that name. We have been through this before.

[CommonCents]

Well they shouldn't have given themselves that name. We have been through this before.

JFC!

They didn't name themselves "Teabaggers". Liberals are the ones who did that. They named themselves the TEA party, which stands for "Taxed Enough Already."

[Hawkeye2j]

JFC!

They didn't name themselves "Teabaggers". Liberals are the ones who did that. They named themselves the TEA party, which stands for "Taxed Enough Already."
Sorry, the name teabaggers originally came from the Tea Partiers themselves.
The left just ran with it, and why shouldn't they? The partiers left the opening.

[doctordog]

JFC!

They didn't name themselves "Teabaggers". Liberals are the ones who did that. They named themselves the TEA party, which stands for "Taxed Enough Already."

He has sweaty balls on the brain so you are wasting your time.

[CommonCents]

Sorry, the name teabaggers originally came from the Tea Partiers themselves.
The left just ran with it, and why shouldn't they? The partiers left the opening.

BULLSHIT!

Get your fucking facts straight dude.

[Hawkeye2j]

BULLSHIT!

Get your fucking facts straight dude.
Why are we re-hashing this again? Wasn't this all discussed the other night.

[CommonCents]

Why are we re-hashing this again? Wasn't this all discussed the other night.

I don't care if it was. The Tea Party protesters DID NOT name themselves "Teabaggers", and I consider your assertion that they did, a demonstration of colossal ignorance on your part.

[Kanadesaga]

The first big day for this movement was Tax Day, April 15. And organizers had a gimmick. They asked people to send a tea bag to the Oval Office. One of the exhortations was “Tea Bag the Fools in D.C.” A protester was spotted with a sign saying, “Tea Bag the Liberal Dems Before They Tea Bag You.” So, conservatives started it: started with this terminology. But others ran with it and ran with it.


http://blog.reidreport.com/2009/12/conservatives-debate-teabagger-as-the-new-n-word/

so much for that, Teabaggers named themselves. :lmao2:


http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh46/kanadesaga/proud-teabagger.png

they even made buttons

[CommonCents]

BULLSHIT!

You liberals are nothing but disgusting fucking liars. I can't wait until you people are purged from our political system.

[Kanadesaga]

BULLSHIT!

You liberals are nothing but disgusting fucking liars. I can't wait until you people are purged from our political system.

Cry all you want, you guys named yourselves "teabaggers" before you fully explored the ramifications. next time, use the urban dictionary. :lmao2:

and how exactly do you want to "purge" people?

[Hawkeye2j]

BULLSHIT!

You liberals are nothing but disgusting fucking liars. I can't wait until you people are purged from our political system.
Whether you like it or not, the Tea Partiers coined the term. Sucks to blame everyone only to find out your side is the guilty one.

[doctordog]

Cry all you want, you guys named yourselves "teabaggers" before you fully explored the ramifications. next time, use the urban dictionary. :lmao2:

and how exactly do you want to "purge" people?

Any proof that man speaks for the whole group? :disbelief:

[CommonCents]

Whether you like it or not, the Tea Partiers coined the term. Sucks to blame everyone only to find out your side is the guilty one.

You really need to get your facts straight dude. If you really believe that Tea Party protesters named themselves "Teabaggers", you have got some serious mental issues.

As part of their initial protests, they wanted people to send a tea bag to their representatives in Washington to represent their discontent with the direction they were leading the country. That teabag represented their movement, which was Taxed Enough Already. They never dubbed themselves "Teabaggers". That was done by idiots at MSNBC and liberal bloggers.

I challenge you to prove your ridiculous assertion, by finding one Tea Party protester either claiming or carrying a sign proclaimed they were the "Teabaggers" before the liberal filth dubbed them that.

If you can't prove it, which I know you can't, I expect you to do the honest and decent thing and retract your assertion. Of course since you are a liberal, I won't be holding my breath expecting you to actually do the right thing, because I don't think you people possess the level of integrity necessary for such an honest admission.

[Smurf-Herder]

You really need to get your facts straight dude. If you really believe that Tea Party protesters named themselves "Teabaggers", you have got some serious mental issues.

As part of their initial protests, they wanted people to send a tea bag to their representatives in Washington to represent their discontent with the direction they were leading the country. That teabag represented their movement, which was Taxed Enough Already. They never dubbed themselves "Teabaggers". That was done by idiots at MSNBC and liberal bloggers.

I challenge you to prove your ridiculous assertion, by finding one Tea Party protester either claiming or carrying a sign proclaimed they were the "Teabaggers" before the liberal filth dubbed them that.

If you can't prove it, which I know you can't, I expect you to do the honest and decent thing and retract your assertion. Of course since you are a liberal, I won't be holding my breath expecting you to actually do the right thing, because I don't think you people possess the level of integrity necessary for such an honest admission.

All he has to do is produce a photo of an Infiltrator from the Daily Kos. So that won't prove anything.

[CommonCents]

All he has to do is produce a photo of an Infiltrator from the Daily Kos. So that won't prove anything.

He better provide it from before I have video of MSNBC calling them that.

I do my research, unlike most of the drones on the left here, who depend on liberal bloggers to feed them talking points and propaganda.

[Lazarus]

He better provide it from before I have video of MSNBC calling them that.

I do my research, unlike most of the drones on the left here, who depend on liberal bloggers to feed them talking points and propaganda.

CC....... If you find one (It's out there somewhere) try to get a time and date stamped one. Then, see if you can find the one where Bill O'Reilly is calling them "teabaggers" (before he was told what it meant). That's out there too. I personally think the term should NOT be used. I mean, what's the point, other than to slur a large group of people? No need for that. Tea Party Protesters. Tea Party Rally People. Tea Party People. All of those would be cool. But, the expression is old now. Most people just don't care anymore.

[Hawkeye2j]

You really need to get your facts straight dude. If you really believe that Tea Party protesters named themselves "Teabaggers", you have got some serious mental issues.

As part of their initial protests, they wanted people to send a tea bag to their representatives in Washington to represent their discontent with the direction they were leading the country. That teabag represented their movement, which was Taxed Enough Already. They never dubbed themselves "Teabaggers". That was done by idiots at MSNBC and liberal bloggers.

I challenge you to prove your ridiculous assertion, by finding one Tea Party protester either claiming or carrying a sign proclaimed they were the "Teabaggers" before the liberal filth dubbed them that.

If you can't prove it, which I know you can't, I expect you to do the honest and decent thing and retract your assertion. Of course since you are a liberal, I won't be holding my breath expecting you to actually do the right thing, because I don't think you people possess the level of integrity necessary for such an honest admission.
By your logic, this guy wore a teabagger badge only after LIBERALS dubbed them that as you say. Just really look at what you type. You may be called CommonCents, but you have no common sense.

[CommonCents]

By your logic, this guy wore a teabagger badge only after LIBERALS dubbed them that as you say. Just really look at what you type. You may be called CommonCents, but you have no common sense.

I believe I've explained this twice already and I'm willing to explain it once more for you, if you will try real hard to comprehend it this time... OK?

They named themselves the "Tea" party, because it stood for Taxed Enough Already.

They used the tea bag thing, because to get their message out to Washington, they once called for people to send a tea bag to their representatives.

They never called themselves "Teabaggers."

That was a name that liberal douche bags and MSNBC douche bags named them.

Now Hawk, if you have to, read that over and over until you've memorized it, and I will be waiting for you to either prove your allegation or retract it. I mean that's what I would expect from an honest person. Are you an honest person Hawk, or just another stereotypical liberal liar?

[Hawkeye2j]

I believe I've explained this twice already and I'm willing to explain it once more for you, if you will try real hard to comprehend it this time... OK?

They named themselves the "Tea" party, because it stood for Taxed Enough Already.

They used the tea bag thing, because to get their message out to Washington, they once called for people to send a tea bag to their representatives.

They never called themselves "Teabaggers."

That was a name that liberal douche bags and MSNBC douche bags named them.

Now Hawk, if you have to, read that over and over until you've memorized it, and I will be waiting for you to either prove your allegation or retract it. I mean that's what I would expect from an honest person. Are you an honest person Hawk, or just another stereotypical liberal liar?
The fact is you are totally wrong on this.

[CommonCents]

The fact is you are totally wrong on this.

Then PROVE IT, or retract your statement. That is, only if your not a typical liberal that's incapable of being honest.

[Hawkeye2j]

Then PROVE IT, or retract your statement. That is, only if your not a typical liberal that's incapable of being honest.
The modern day Teabaggers has its start with Wall Street reporter Rick Santelli going on a rant on the floor of the exchange about the 'Sub Prime' mortgage holders buying houses they couldn't afford with only $500. down and then "expecting tax payers to pay for the cost of adding on a bathroom". I remember watching it live at the time and thinking what a lunatic he was blaming the victims of Predatory Lending practices and the current foreclosure crisis.

http://realworldpolitics.blogspot.com/2010/01/who-first-used-term-teabagger.html

[CommonCents]

The modern day Teabaggers has its start with Wall Street reporter Rick Santelli going on a rant on the floor of the exchange about the 'Sub Prime' mortgage holders buying houses they couldn't afford with only $500. down and then "expecting tax payers to pay for the cost of adding on a bathroom". I remember watching it live at the time and thinking what a lunatic he was blaming the victims of Predatory Lending practices and the current foreclosure crisis.

http://realworldpolitics.blogspot.com/2010/01/who-first-used-term-teabagger.html

Ok, exactly where do the Tea party people name themselves "Teabaggers" in that video?

Strike 1.

[Hawkeye2j]

Ok, exactly where do the Tea party people name themselves "Teabaggers" in that video?

Strike 1.

You have to learn to read and not just look at the pictures. I know that is hard for you.

The current Tea Party movement initially came up with the 'clever' idea of sending Tea bags to members of Congress. It was in their initial rallys that they started referring to this act of sending their representatives boxes of tea bags as 'TEABAGGING":

[CommonCents]

You have to learn to read and not just look at the pictures. I know that is hard for you.

The current Tea Party movement initially came up with the 'clever' idea of sending Tea bags to members of Congress. It was in their initial rallys that they started referring to this act of sending their representatives boxes of tea bags as 'TEABAGGING":

DUDE, show me where the Tea party people called themselves "TEABAGGERS?"

Show it to me, or retract your fucking statement.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND ENGLISH?

[Mason66]

As the economy goes, so goes the Democrats fortunes for November.

A flurry of reports out Wednesday suggested that many Americans are feeling better about the economic rebound.
Retail spending rose sharply and more than expected. Consumer inflation remains all but invisible. Businesses are boosting their stockpiles in anticipation of higher shopper demand.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100414/ap_on_bi_go_ec_fi/us_economy

Why is this bad news for the Republicans?

Did they bet in Vegas that the economy would not recover, if you beleive it really is?

You think this will effect the elections in November?

Did the health care bill go away?

Is the deficit any lower?

Is the interest on the deficit any lower?

A small recovery won't effect the elections at all.

People don't have such a short memory, especially when this "recovery" doesn't bring jobs along with it.

[Kanadesaga]

DUDE, show me where the Tea party people called themselves "TEABAGGERS?"

Show it to me, or retract your fucking statement.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND ENGLISH?


Well, they don't now. Unless they like men's nuts in their mouths. But they began with the "teabagger". :lmao2:

[Citizen]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100611/ap_on_bi_go_ec_fi/us_economy

WASHINGTON – A big drop in May retail sales has raised new concerns about the durability of the economic recovery.

Retail sales plunged 1.2 percent last month, the Commerce Department said Friday. It was the largest decline in eight months.

Americans slashed spending on everything from cars to clothing to building materials. Auto sales fell 1.7 percent. Excluding autos, sales fell 1.1 percent.

Economists are worried that households will start trimming outlays as they continue to be battered by high unemployment and uncertainty in the stock market. Consumer spending accounts for 70 percent of total economic activity.

There's also concern that spending will freeze up as Americans see their wealth shrink. Investors have sold off stocks for more than a month because of concerns that Europe's sovereign debt crisis will slow a worldwide economic rebound. The Dow Jones industrial average fell 7.9 percent last month, the worst May for the blue chip index since 1940.

A separate Commerce report Friday said business inventories rose 0.4 percent in April for the fourth consecutive month of gains. Business sales climbed 0.6 percent in April for the 13th straight monthly increase.

Some economists cautioned against overreacting to the gloomy May retail sales report because the numbers can be volatile from month to month. But they said if future months show weakness, then they will be forced to trim their estimates for overall economic growth in the second half of this year.

The overall economy, as measured by the gross domestic product, grew at an annual rate of 3 percent in the first three months of this year. Much of that was the result of a 3.5 percent expansion in consumer spending — the best showing for this category in three years.

The sharp decline in U.S. retail sales in May "dramatically weakens the outlook for consumption growth in the second quarter ... and is a reminder that households are not going to be the engine of growth for some time," said Paul Dales, U.S. economist for Capital Economics.

Analysts said the key will be employment and income growth in the months ahead. But most expect the unemployment rate of 9.7 percent won't fall much in the coming months.

"Our own view is that the labor market recovery will be a grudging one, that consumers will enjoy only modest gains in wages and salaries for some time and that consumer spending growth will therefore prove disappointing," said Joshua Shapiro, chief U.S. economist at MFR Inc., an economic consulting firm in New York.

The decline in May retail sales was the largest since sales had fallen 2.2 percent in September. The government did revise up slightly the April performance to show a gain of 0.6 percent for the month instead of the originally reported 0.4 percent increase.

Pulling down the overall May number was a 9.3 percent plunge in building materials. That follows the expiration of a tax credit for homebuyers in April that spurred home sales this spring.

Department store sales fell 1.8 percent while sales in the broader category of general merchandise stores, which includes big retailers such as Wal-Mart, fell 1.1 percent.

Gasoline stations sales were down 3.3 percent, a drop that reflected in part lower gasoline pump prices during the month.

The Federal Reserve reported Thursday that households' net worth rose for the fourth consecutive quarter, but since then stock prices have been tumbling. Economists say it may not be until 2012 or 2013 at best before Americans' wealth returns to its pre-recession levels.

Last week, the International Council of Shopping Centers reported that its index for revenue at stores open at least a year posted a 2.6 percent rise in May compared to sales in May 2009. That followed a 0.8 percent April increase and a 9 percent surge in March.

Target Corp. posted a small gain in May that was below internal forecasts while department store chain J.C. Penney Co. and many teen merchants including Abercrombie & Fitch Co. and American Eagle Outfitters Inc. reported declines in revenue at stores open at least a year.

I guess those tax returns are all used up now.

As the economy goes, so goes the Democrats fortunes for November.

Probably, a sucky recovery means doom for the Dems.

[Trinnity]

Probably, a sucky recovery means doom for the Dems.
And rightly so, it's Nero's policies that are preventing a recovery. Duh.

[Lazarus]

Looks like the right wing is playing the "Limbaugh -I Hope He Fails- Gambit". Brilliant.

[Moby]

Well, they don't now. Unless they like men's nuts in their mouths. But they began with the "teabagger". :lmao2:
You need to stop with these types of insults. Now.

[Citizen]

Looks like the right wing is playing the "Limbaugh -I Hope He Fails- Gambit". Brilliant.

So we can only post good propaganda news about the economy? Gotcha. You libs are so quick to point out any positive fart in the economy yet if one of us point to one of the many numerous ENORMOUS signs that the recovery is shit then we're just hoping he fails. *rubs hands together mischievously.

Hey maybe the government can hand out tax returns every month so they can be as good as Marchs & Aprils. Its plainly apparent at the very very least Obama's recovery estimates at the beginning of his term were GREATLY over exaggerated.

[Trinnity]

Looks like the right wing is playing the "Limbaugh -I Hope He Fails- Gambit". Brilliant.
It's not that anyone hopes he fails. He IS failing all of us, and we need him to do a better job. If public criticism gets him motivated, so much the better. His failure is pulling us all down. :banghead:

[Cactus]

It's not that anyone hope he fails. He IS failing all of us, and we need him to do a better job. If public criticism gets him motivated, so much the better. His failure is pulling us all down. :banghead:

How did '00-'08 simply disappear?
:confused:

[hdmarketing]

As the economy goes, so goes the Democrats fortunes for November.

A flurry of reports out Wednesday suggested that many Americans are feeling better about the economic rebound.
Retail spending rose sharply and more than expected. Consumer inflation remains all but invisible. Businesses are boosting their stockpiles in anticipation of higher shopper demand.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100414/ap_on_bi_go_ec_fi/us_economy

Ohhh so because Yahoo puts out a story, all of a suden everything is hunky dory...
The country is on the rebound, and the Obama crime gans will lock control for all times, and Yahoo proved it..
:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

[Citizen]

How did '00-'08 simply disappear?
:confused:

Well if we were going to get this kind of shitty "recovery" then you'd have to conclude another president would have been better suited for the job.

[Lazarus]

So we can only post good propaganda news about the economy? Gotcha. You libs are so quick to point out any positive fart in the economy yet if one of us point to one of the many numerous ENORMOUS signs that the recovery is shit then we're just hoping he fails. *rubs hands together mischievously.

Hey maybe the government can hand out tax returns every month so they can be as good as Marchs & Aprils. Its plainly apparent at the very very least Obama's recovery estimates at the beginning of his term were GREATLY over exaggerated.

Right wing partisans want Mr. Obama to fail at everything. No matter what the cost. Limbaugh gave you all an out at CPAC last year. (Hey everyone.....just say you want his "policies" to fail, and your off the hook. )You are a partisan. And what Limbaugh did borders on genius!!

[hdmarketing]

Right wing partisans want Mr. Obama to fail at everything.

Nope...
He has done that all on his own...
Thus the 47% approval rating :lmao2:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html

He did that all on his own.:lmao2:

[Lazarus]

Nope...
He has done that all on his own...
Thus the 47% approval rating :lmao2:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html

He did that all on his own.:lmao2:

Please correct me if I'm wrong...... seriously. But, isn't that a higher approval rating than Mr. Reagan had 507 days into his first term?

[hdmarketing]

Please correct me if I'm wrong...... seriously. But, isn't that a higher approval rating than Mr. Reagan had 507 days into his first term?
However you also must consider that Reagans was going up, NOT down.
Obama started high and is tanking, Reagans was higher than any other at the end of his second term, feel free to correct me if I am wrong okay...

[Lazarus]

However you also must consider that Reagans was going up, NOT down.
Obama started high and is tanking, Reagans was higher than any other at the end of his second term, feel free to correct me if I am wrong okay...

We may be looking at apples and oranges. I'm sorry for that.

As things are going "now", Mr. Obama will NOT have a second term. There are those in the Democratic party who are now seriously considering looking for a primary candidate to run against Mr. Obama. The comment made by a "White House source" about labor the other day has been the last straw for many people. This president is actually splitting the party. Oh well. It will be very interesting for a political junky to watch. :hi:

[Hawkeye2j]

However you also must consider that Reagans was going up, NOT down.
Obama started high and is tanking, Reagans was higher than any other at the end of his second term, feel free to correct me if I am wrong okay...
Reagan left office bolstered by the oft-repeated media myth that he had been far and away the most popular of any president since World War II. But bearing in mind Mark Twain's observation that a lie gets half-way around the world before truth puts its boots on, the U.S. public deserves to know what the polling data actually says.

According to Gallup polls taken throughout his presidency, Reagan was not one of the more popular presidents in the post-Roosevelt pack. At various points during his presidency he rated lower than the other presidents during comparable periods of their terms in office. For instance, during the first two years of Reagan's presidency, the public was giving President Reagan the lowest level of approval of all modern elected presidents. Reagan's average first year approval rating was 58 percent--lower than Dwight Eisenhower's 69 percent, Jack Kennedy's 75 percent, Richard Nixon's 61 percent and Jimmy Carter's 62%.

The post-Roosevelt presidents who assumed office through circumstances other than elections scored higher approval ratings during their first months in office than Reagan. In October 1945, six months after FDR died, President Harry Truman received an 82 percent approval rating, down from 87 percent the previous June. In December 1963, shortly after JFK's assassination, Lyndon Johnson got a 79 percent public approval rating, and it stayed in the mid-to-low seventies until December 1964, when he scored 69%. Only Gerald Ford, who received a 71 percent approval rating in August 1974, declined below Reagan's first-year level.

Nor did the U.S. public give Reagan higher marks in his second year than other post-World War II presidents. Reagan's approval rating at the end of his second year in office was 41 percent, with an average for that year of 44 percent. Compare these statistics to Eisenhower, who notched a 69 percent approval rating at the end of his second year and a 65 percent year's average; Kennedy's were 76 percent and 72 percent respectively; Nixon's 52 percent and 57 percent; and Carter's at 51 percent and 47 percent.

President Reagan's humdrum approval ratings continued throughout his first and second terms. Averaging 50 percent for his first term, Reagan fared slightly better than Ford at 47 percent and Carter at 47 percent, but with Gallup's 3 percent margin of error even these differences are not statistically significant. On the other band, Reagan's first term average was much lower than those of Presidents Kennedy (1961-63) who averaged a 70 percent approval rating, Eisenhower with a 69 percent average, and Nixon at 56 percent.

In May of the second year of his second term (1986), Reagan's 68 percent approval rating surpassed the mid-sixth year figures for two-term presidents. But after the Iran-Contra scandal broke in the fall of 1986, Reagan's approval rating plummeted to 46 percent, leaving him with an unimpressive average for that year.

Reagan finished strong with a December 1988 Gallup poll recording a 63 percent approval rating. But given the 3 percent margin of error, this statistic is not appreciably different than the final ratings of Eisenhower (59 percent) or Kennedy (58 percent). Polls showed FDR with a 66 percent favorable tally at the time of his death.

Reagan's 52 percent average approval rating for his entire presidency was topped by Kennedy's 70 percent average, Eisenhower's 66 percent, Roosevelt's 68 percent, and even by Johnson (54 percent), who eschewed running for reelection because of the unpopularity of his Vietnam policy. In short, about half--and sometimes more than half--of the U.S. public did not approve of Reagan's presidential performance. His approval index was not much better than the lowest modern presidential averages: Truman's and Ford's, each at 46 percent; Carter's at 47 percent; and 48 percent for Nixon.

Even the notion that the American public likes Ronald Reagan the man (as opposed to some of his policies) has been grossly exaggerated. Overall, his "likability" percentages have ranged in the low-to-mid seventies, reaching a high of 81% in November 1985, and a low of 50 percent in August 1983. No other modern president's likability indexes has sunk as low as Reagan's lowest; most have generally fluctuated in the mid-to-upper seventies for all of Reagan's modern predecessors.

For example, 84 percent of Americans liked Ike in February 1956. In August 1964, 89 percent of Americans liked Johnson. Even in the summer months of Carter's final, unpopular year as president (just before his defeat by Reagan in the 1980 election), Carter scored a higher Gallup personal likability index at 76 percent than Reagan's 73 percent during the comparable period of his administration.

For anyone who cares to look at the actual polling data, the facts show that Reagan was definitely not the most popular post-war president, and during many comparable periods he was among the most unpopular.


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[hdmarketing]

But you also left this out:

Ronald Reagan, the nation's 40th president, became one of the nation's most revered public figures in recent years, a distinct turnabout from the more routinely average ratings he received while he served in office between 1981 and 1989. Reagan's job approval ratings in his first years in office were hurt by the bad economy, and the last years of his administration were marred by the negative fallout from what came to be known as the Iran-Contra affair. Nevertheless, Americans have more recently upgraded their retrospective approval of the job he did as president, and now routinely think of Reagan as one of the nation's more outstanding presidents. Reagan has appeared in the Top 10 of Gallup's annual Most Admired Man list more than 30 times, more often than any other person except evangelist Billy Graham.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/11887/ronald-reagan-from-peoples-perspective-gallup-poll-review.aspx

Obama, the mesiah has tanked from top to bottom and continues to tank.

[Hawkeye2j]

But you also left this out:

Ronald Reagan, the nation's 40th president, became one of the nation's most revered public figures in recent years, a distinct turnabout from the more routinely average ratings he received while he served in office between 1981 and 1989. Reagan's job approval ratings in his first years in office were hurt by the bad economy, and the last years of his administration were marred by the negative fallout from what came to be known as the Iran-Contra affair. Nevertheless, Americans have more recently upgraded their retrospective approval of the job he did as president, and now routinely think of Reagan as one of the nation's more outstanding presidents. Reagan has appeared in the Top 10 of Gallup's annual Most Admired Man list more than 30 times, more often than any other person except evangelist Billy Graham.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/11887/ronald-reagan-from-peoples-perspective-gallup-poll-review.aspx

Obama, the mesiah has tanked from top to bottom and continues to tank.
So Obama has been in there for a year and a half. His ratings could end up just as high.

[hdmarketing]

We may be looking at apples and oranges. I'm sorry for that.

As things are going "now", Mr. Obama will NOT have a second term. There are those in the Democratic party who are now seriously considering looking for a primary candidate to run against Mr. Obama. The comment made by a "White House source" about labor the other day has been the last straw for many people. This president is actually splitting the party. Oh well. It will be very interesting for a political junky to watch. :hi:

I agree, I have followed the Political relm for quite a long time, and I have never seen things like I see now.

I think you are going t find that the One Party rule is coming to an end, you can see this already unfolding...

[hdmarketing]

So Obama has been in there for a year and a half. His ratings could end up just as high.

I really doubt that Hawk, even the most liberal of the lefties is starting to wake up and see he is a huge mistake, when his base starts to turn (and I just posted a story on that the other day), he is in big trouble...

[Hawkeye2j]

I really doubt that Hawk, even the most liberal of the lefties is starting to wake up and see he is a huge mistake, when his base starts to turn (and I just posted a story on that the other day), he is in big trouble...
Then you don't know a damn thing about the way these things go. Events will shape his approval ratings and neither you nor anybody else can foresee them.

[hdmarketing]

Then you don't know a damn thing about the way these things go. Events will shape his approval ratings and neither you nor anybody else can foresee them.
And so far "The Events" have proven that he doesn't know what the hell he is doing, and the People are watching him. He is fucking up....

Coo all you want about your love fest with him, but the rest of America is watching him fail.

He is NOT going to get a second term at the present rate, and in November, the criminals in congress are FINISHED...

[Trinnity]

We are in deep, deep shit, and Nero's policies are making it worse. He's just throwing money around like it doesn't matter (print more). Meanwhile it's deepening the debt at a record rate. We can't sustain this.

Those of you who "like" him, or have partisan loyalty - sober up and put your country first.

[Citizen]

Right wing partisans want Mr. Obama to fail at everything. No matter what the cost. Limbaugh gave you all an out at CPAC last year. (Hey everyone.....just say you want his "policies" to fail, and your off the hook. )You are a partisan. And what Limbaugh did borders on genius!!

All you assholes do is post shit like, "LOOKS LIKE THE ECONOMY IS DOING WELL THANKS TO DA DEMOCRATS." I can't refute that???? Fuck yourselves.

[Cactus]

We are in deep, deep shit, and Nero's policies are making it worse. He's just throwing money around like it doesn't matter (print more). Meanwhile it's deepening the debt at a record rate. We can't sustain this.

Those of you who "like" him, or have partisan loyalty - sober up and put your country first.


Americans did put their country first.

The date was November 4, 2008.

This country is a democracy...there was a peaceful regime change that you surely have been whining about the result ever since.

Well guess what! The country was not a clean slate when our president walked in the Oval Office. To think otherwise is beyond stupid. Dis you expect our president to find a magic wand?

To borrow a phrase from the conservatives...love your country or leave it.

[Citizen]

Newsflash: We are not a democracy.

[doctordog]

We are in deep, deep shit, and Nero's policies are making it worse. He's just throwing money around like it doesn't matter (print more). Meanwhile it's deepening the debt at a record rate. We can't sustain this.

Those of you who "like" him, or have partisan loyalty - sober up and put your country first.

I agree, he is targeting the middle class making them weaker, he is targeting manufacturing in the country driving them out, the man clearly has no economic plan.

[Trinnity]

Americans did put their country first.

The date was November 4, 2008.

This country is a democracy...there was a peaceful regime change that you surely have been whining about the result ever since.

Well guess what! The country was not a clean slate when our president walked in the Oval Office. To think otherwise is beyond stupid. Dis you expect our president to find a magic wand?

To borrow a phrase from the conservatives...love your country or leave it.

Those who voted for him were lied to and duped by a con man. I don't feel sorry for any of you suckers. I do feel sorry for the rest of us who saw it coming. We'll fix it, but the damage may be too great to overcome w/o a lot of pain for all of us.

The Debt is increasing at a warp-speed rate. It will swallow us, leading to an all out depression.
People are not spending.
Business won't hire because of looming tax increases, tightened bank credit, and reduced business.
New business isn't being created for the same reason.

The economy can't recover because of the above reasons.

Those problems are tied to current policy.

[nondual]

I scratched my balls the other day and it made me feel better too. Doesn't change the fact the economy sucks and will continue to suck until this Marxist is out of office.
You obviously ignore what a Marxist is.

[nondual]

I agree, he is targeting the middle class making them weaker, he is targeting manufacturing in the country driving them out...
How? Give us some examples.

[Citizen]

Well he preaches Marxism but the end result is corporatism so when everything turns to shit liberals can blame everything on the "free market".

[nondual]

Well he preaches Marxism but the end result is corporatism so when everything turns to shit liberals can blame everything on the "free market".
I know. It's like the BP disaster. It was caused by environmentalists, just so they could get offshore drilling banned by Congress. Right?

[Citizen]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100629/ap_on_bi_ge/us_consumer_confidence

NEW YORK – Americans, worried about jobs and the sluggish economic recovery, are losing confidence, causing a widely watched index to tumble in June and raising concerns about consumer spending in the critical months ahead.

The Conference Board, a private research group based in New York, said Tuesday that its Consumer Confidence Index dropped almost 10 points to 52.9, down from the revised 62.7 in May. Economists surveyed by Thomson Reuters had been expecting 62.8 for June.

June's reading marked the biggest drop since February, when the index fell 10 points. The index had risen for three straight months since then.

Both components of the index — one that measures how consumers feel now about the economy, the other that assesses their outlook over the next six months — dropped. The Present Situation Index decreased to 25.5 in June from 29.8 in May. The Expectations Index declined to 71.2 from 84.6.

"Increasing uncertainty and apprehension about the future state of the economy and labor market, no doubt a result of the recent slowdown in job growth, are the primary reasons for the sharp reversal in confidence," said Lynn Franco, director of the Conference Board Consumer Research Center, in a statement. "Until the pace of job growth picks up, consumer confidence is notly likely to pick up."

Stocks extended their losses after the release of the report. The Dow Jones industrial average fell 240 points to 9,898 at midday.

The index had been recovering fitfully since hitting an all-time low of 25.3 in February 2009. Still, the reading was far below what's considered healthy. A reading above 90 indicates the economy is on solid footing; above 100 signals strong growth.

Economists watch the number closely because consumer spending including health care and other major items, accounts for about 70 percent of U.S. economic activity.

Economists already had believed confidence will remain weak for at least another year because of stubbornly high unemployment. But a batch of economic data — from disappointing job figures in May to dismal housing numbers — is increasing worries that the road to recovery could be rockier than anticipated. Amid such concerns, the Dow Jones Industrials has fallen 9.5 percent since late April.

"We're concerned about the strength of the economic recovery from here," said Richard Hastings, macro and consumer strategist with Global Hunter Securities.

A key housing index released Friday showed that home prices in April rose for the first time in seven months as government tax credits bolstered the housing market. But the rebound may be short-lived now that the incentives have expired. The Standard & Poor's/Case-Shiller 20-city home price index released Tuesday posted an 0.8 percent gain. It had fallen in each of the past six months.

Overall, however, a recent batch of housing data released last week signaled a renewed housing slump that may threaten the broader economy. The Commerce Department reported on Wednesday that sales of new homes collapsed in May, sinking 33 percent to the lowest level on record as potential buyers stopped shopping for a home as government tax credits expired. That came a day after a report showed that sales of previously owned homes fell unexpectedly in May.

The Commerce Department announced Monday that Americans spent a little more in May but not enough to accelerate the economic recovery. Consumer spending rose 0.2 percent last month after no change in April. But personal income was up 0.4 percent, indicating consumers are still wary and choosing to save money.

A key issue is jobs. The Labor Department is expected to report on Friday that employers eliminated 110,000 jobs in June, and the jobless rate is expected to tick up slightly to 9.8 percent, from 9.7 percent in May, according to economists surveyed by Thomson Reuters. That follows a bleak report in May, which showed employers added 431,000 jobs but the vast majority were temporary census positions.

Retailers had a surprisingly solid start to the year as consumers felt better as their stock portfolios rose, but since April, business has slowed. Hastings believes the sluggishness continued into June. He believes sweltering heat in this past month wilted sales of summer's trendy fashions as consumers stuck to buying the basics like shorts and tank tops to keep cool. He also cited a slowdown in revenue in big-ticket items.

The Conference Board survey is based on a random survey of consumers sent to 5,000 households from June 1 to June 22.

The survey showed that consumers' assessment of the labor market was less than favorable. Those claiming jobs are "hard to get" increased to 44.8 percent from 43.9 percent, while those saying jobs are "plentiful" decreased to 4.3 percent from 4.6 percent. Consumers polled were also much less optimistic about future job prospects.

I guess those tax returns really did the trick. Some "stimulus" huh.

[nondual]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100629/ap_on_bi_ge/us_consumer_confidence



I guess those tax returns really did the trick. Some "stimulus" huh.
Banks need to start lending to small businesses and consumers. That's the best way to create jobs and lower unemployment.

But we also need to acknowledge that only less than half the stimulus money has been spent.

[Funny how governors who criticized Obama's stimulus by saying it was too much spending took the money, used it to retain thousands of firefighters, police, nurses and teachers jobs in the process, then took credit for job creation while still hammering Obama for too much spending. :banghead: ]

[doctordog]

How? Give us some examples.

1.taxing healthcare plans of the middle class for this outragous reform that passed.

2. In a recession forcing major environmental and legislative changes on manufacturers that are already struggling to survive. This definition of a solid waste that is already on the federal registry is just one example. It means thousands of jobs lost in the recycling industry alone.

[MarkMiller]

Those who voted for him were lied to and duped by a con man. I don't feel sorry for any of you suckers. I do feel sorry for the rest of us who saw it coming. We'll fix it, but the damage may be too great to overcome w/o a lot of pain for all of us.

The Debt is increasing at a warp-speed rate. It will swallow us, leading to an all out depression.
People are not spending.
Business won't hire because of looming tax increases, tightened bank credit, and reduced business.
New business isn't being created for the same reason.

The economy can't recover because of the above reasons.

Those problems are tied to current policy.
Bullshit. Most of that IS simply not true and what is can easily be tied to the last Administration, some is flat out false such as the claim that New business isn't being created. That's impossible and is a flat out lie. Flat out blatant lie. period.

This constant whinning about the budget now that Obama is president is as bad as the so called Bush blaming complaint. LOL!
Business wont hire? Again.....impossible. People are Not spending? Again, impossible.

I am sorry Trinnity but this post is extremly thin of any information and seems horribly incorrect...not just a broad leap dude....flat out lies.

[nondual]

1.taxing healthcare plans of the middle class for this outragous reform that passed.
Healthcare reform wasn't good enough thanks to Republicans and insurance companies. Should have included a public option, as the majority of Americans wanted. At least you will soon have the exchange markets, which are going to force premiums down through some real competition.

2. In a recession forcing major environmental and legislative changes on manufacturers that are already struggling to survive. This definition of a solid waste that is already on the federal registry is just one example. It means thousands of jobs lost in the recycling industry alone.
It is the price of change and innovation. We will lose jobs on some sectors as new jobs are created on other sectors, like green technologies.