How bad has it gotten for Obama... This bad

[CommonCents]

I'm no fan of Ron Paul. I don't like the people he plays to, but this is a poll of likely voters and should be a huge wake up call for our dear leader.

Election 2012: Barack Obama 42%, Ron Paul 41%
Wednesday, April 14, 2010

Pit maverick Republican Congressman Ron Paul against President Obama in a hypothetical 2012 election match-up, and the race is – virtually dead even.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of likely voters finds Obama with 42% support and Paul with 41% of the vote. Eleven percent (11%) prefer some other candidate, and six percent (6%) are undecided.

Ask the Political Class, though, and it’s a blowout. While 58% of Mainstream voters favor Paul, 95% of the Political Class vote for Obama.

But Republican voters also have decidedly mixed feelings about Paul, who has been an outspoken critic of the party establishment.

Obama earns 79% support from Democrats, but Paul gets just 66% of GOP votes. Voters not affiliated with either major party give Paul a 47% to 28% edge over the president.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2012/election_2012_barack_obama_42_ron_paul_41

[Hawkeye2j]

I'm no fan of Ron Paul. I don't like the people he plays to, but this is a poll of likely voters and should be a huge wake up call for our dear leader.



http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2012/election_2012_barack_obama_42_ron_paul_41

I wouldn't trust a Rasmussen poll any more than I would trust a Diebold voting machine.

[MintJulep]

Whoa.......

Surely he will get a big bump from the Miami win last night. :lmao2:

[CommonCents]

I wouldn't trust a Rasmussen poll any more than I would trust a Diebold voting machine.

Of course you wouldn't. They poll likely voters, and likely voters are turning on your dear leader. You people attack anyone and anything that doesn't promote your progressive point of view, including the American people themselves.

[Hawkeye2j]

Of course you wouldn't. They poll likely voters, and likely voters are turning on your dear leader. You people attack anyone and anything that doesn't promote your progressive point of view, including the American people themselves.

Their polling methods have been exposed. Their polls are framed in a way to reach a specific conclusion. They start with their desired results and create the poll from that.

[Citizen]

Go Ron Paul!
FG_HuFtP8w8

[CommonCents]

Their polling methods have been exposed. Their polls are framed in a way to reach a specific conclusion. They start with their desired results and create the poll from that.

Bullshit.

They poll likely voters, while other public opinion polls just poll adults over 18. That's why they are so accurate when it comes to predicting elections.

Attack all you want, but come November, Rasmussen will have the last laugh.

[Hawkeye2j]

Bullshit.

They poll likely voters, while other public opinion polls just poll adults over 18. That's why they are so accurate when it comes to predicting elections.

Attack all you want, but come November, Rasmussen will have the last laugh.
Elections are about the only thing they get right. Those questions can't be manipulated. Who wins, who loses. On issues, Rasmussen is a Republican talking point.

[Hawkeye2j]

ndependent, nonpartisan political experts agree that Rasmussen's controversial polling methodology consistently and heavily favors Republican candidates.

In fact, when compared side-by-side with other independent pollsters examining statewide races across the country, Rasmussen often favors the Republican candidate by eyebrow-raising margins.

So before you buy into the hype, make sure you read this:

"The numbers in the [Rasmussen] Wisconsin survey that stuck out like a sore thumb were the favorable and unfavorable ratings of Republican Senate hopeful Dave Westlake… there is no way that two out of three likely Wisconsin voters know enough about him to have an opinion of him... In November, Public Policy Polling, a Democratic polling company, surveyed the Wisconsin Senate race and found Westlake's ID at 2 percent favorable/9 percent unfavorable. Could Westlake's name ID have skyrocketed from 11 percent to 64 percent from November to February? No, not without a statewide media blitz."
-- Stu Rothenberg, [Rothenberg Political Report, 03/02/10]

"Rasmussen is an automated poll that does not include live interviewers, and, as anyone who follows polling knows, it's highly controversial, in part because of the large number of surveys conducted by the firm and the widespread belief that the firm favors Republicans."
-- Stu Rothenberg, [Rothenberg Political Report, 03/02/10]

http://www.bayoubuzz.com/News/Louisiana/Politics/Louisiana_US_Senate_Race__Vitter_Melancon_Camps_Ba ttle_Polls__10457.asp

[Citizen]

ndependent, nonpartisan political experts agree that Rasmussen's controversial polling methodology consistently and heavily favors Republican candidates.

In fact, when compared side-by-side with other independent pollsters examining statewide races across the country, Rasmussen often favors the Republican candidate by eyebrow-raising margins.

So before you buy into the hype, make sure you read this:

"The numbers in the [Rasmussen] Wisconsin survey that stuck out like a sore thumb were the favorable and unfavorable ratings of Republican Senate hopeful Dave Westlake… there is no way that two out of three likely Wisconsin voters know enough about him to have an opinion of him... In November, Public Policy Polling, a Democratic polling company, surveyed the Wisconsin Senate race and found Westlake's ID at 2 percent favorable/9 percent unfavorable. Could Westlake's name ID have skyrocketed from 11 percent to 64 percent from November to February? No, not without a statewide media blitz."
-- Stu Rothenberg, [Rothenberg Political Report, 03/02/10]

"Rasmussen is an automated poll that does not include live interviewers, and, as anyone who follows polling knows, it's highly controversial, in part because of the large number of surveys conducted by the firm and the widespread belief that the firm favors Republicans."
-- Stu Rothenberg, [Rothenberg Political Report, 03/02/10]

http://www.bayoubuzz.com/News/Louisiana/Politics/Louisiana_US_Senate_Race__Vitter_Melancon_Camps_Ba ttle_Polls__10457.asp

bayoubuzz.com?

[CommonCents]

bayoubuzz.com?

It's nothing but liberal bullshit... As usual.

Rasmussen uses samples that reflect the population in general, while most other polls over sample democrats. This isn't even worth arguing over.

[Scottbrown2012]

It's nothing but liberal bullshit... As usual.

Rasmussen uses samples that reflect the population in general, while most other polls over sample democrats. This isn't even worth arguing over.
but of course it is...if it is ANYTHING that disputes YOUR point of view it is automatically dismissed as liberal bullshit!:lmao2: :thumbsup:

[CommonCents]

but of course it is...if it is ANYTHING that disputes YOUR point of view it is automatically dismissed as liberal bullshit!:lmao2: :thumbsup:

As soon as you post some facts, rather than some liberals opinion of the facts, I'll be glad to discuss this with you.

I'm waiting, because I know you will do your own research and prove that Rasmussen is bogus. :lmao2:

[Scottbrown2012]

As soon as you post some facts, rather than some liberals opinion of the facts, I'll be glad to discuss this with you.

I'm waiting, because I know you will do your own research and prove that Rasmussen is bogus. :lmao2:
what is it that you all post the majority of the time?? a CONSERVATIVES OPINION of the facts...this is all tit for tat BULLSHIT that goes nowhere fast.

[Hawkeye2j]

As soon as you post some facts, rather than some liberals opinion of the facts, I'll be glad to discuss this with you.

I'm waiting, because I know you will do your own research and prove that Rasmussen is bogus. :lmao2:
"Rasmussen has a new poll, but it's a bit weird."..."We've known for a while that Quinn had trouble with women, but I cannot possibly see how the Democrat is trailing among women to a Republican by 17 points, while losing by just 3 among men."
-Rich Miller, CapitolFax Blog, 03/09/10
http://thecapitolfaxblog.com/2010/03/09/rasmussen-brady-over-quinn-47-37/

"Rasmussen is an automated poll that does not include live interviewers, and, as anyone who follows polling knows, it's highly controversial, in part because of the large number of surveys conducted by the firm and the widespread belief that the firm favors Republicans."
-Stu Rothenberg, Rothenberg Political Report, 03/02/10
http://rothenbergpoliticalreport.blogspot.com/2010/03/dont-believe-hype-or-everything-that.html

"I think you'll see that Rasmussen polls literally stand out from all the others and they almost always deliver good news for the GOP."..."On the generic ballot question, in any given timeframe, Rasmussen always has the most pro-Republican results. Every. Single. Time. Without fail."
-"Rasmussen and Everyone Else," Jed Lewison, DailyKos.com
http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2010/3/8/843995/-Rasmussen-vs.-Everybody-Else.html

[Citizen]

Hmmm... Lets see... garbage blog... another garbage blog.... and another garbage blog... Next!

[Hawkeye2j]

Hmmm... Lets see... garbage blog... another garbage blog.... and another garbage blog... Next!
You didn't even read any of the links. They gave specific examples and demonstrated exactly what Rasmussen does.

[CommonCents]

I'm still waiting for YOU to prove your assertion. Posting OPINION from blogs is not posting facts.

Get off your liberal ass and figure things out for yourself, rather than depending on partisan bloggers to do your thinking for you.

[Hawkeye2j]

I'm still waiting for YOU to prove your assertion. Posting OPINION from blogs is not posting facts.

Get off your liberal ass and figure things out for yourself, rather than depending on partisan bloggers to do your thinking for you.
You didn't read the links. They posted proof not opinion.

[Hawkeye2j]

I'm still waiting for YOU to prove your assertion. Posting OPINION from blogs is not posting facts.

Get off your liberal ass and figure things out for yourself, rather than depending on partisan bloggers to do your thinking for you.
In his post last Friday on how the 2010 tide is turning in favor of Democratic Party, Markos pointed out that polling numbers generated by Rasmussen Reports are single-handedly propping up Republicans in national composite tracking indexes.

In pollster.com's generic ballot composite index, for example, Republicans narrowly lead Democrats 42.7% to 41.3%. But when you exclude Rasmussen and YouGov (a Democratic leaning internet poll), Democrats lead by a slightly larger 44.5% to 42.0% margin. Including YouGov would have given Democrats a larger 47.3% to 41.4% margin, meaning that the inclusion of Rasmussen alone results in a huge 7.3% swing towards the GOP.

Obviously, tracking polls don't actually count for anything when it comes to tabulating ballots, but they do have a big impact on narrative, and the impact of Rasmussen's numbers on the overall composite was shocking to me, to put it mildly.

Of course, Rasmussen's "Republican house effect" doesn't mean we're looking at another Strategic Vision here and I want to stress that the only point I'm making in this post is that at least in national tracking polls, in any given timeframe, a Rasmussen poll is overwhelmingly likely to show better news for the GOP than any other poll.

To illustrate this point, I generated a series of scatter plot charts using pollster.com's index of polls. Every poll in pollster.com's index is represented on each chart by a dot, plotted horizontally by the date of the poll, and vertically by the results of the poll.

Rasmussen polls are in red; every other poll is in green. Shaded red areas on the charts represent areas where results would favor the GOP.

I think you'll see that Rasmussen polls literally stand out from all the others and they almost always deliver good news for the GOP.

Now get off your ass and look at the charts on the links I provided.

[CommonCents]

You didn't read the links. They posted proof not opinion.

Oh yes I did read them, and they are all speculation.

DO SOME FUCKING RESEARCH OF YOUR OWN!

[CommonCents]

In his post last Friday on how the 2010 tide is turning in favor of Democratic Party, Markos pointed out that polling numbers generated by Rasmussen Reports are single-handedly propping up Republicans in national composite tracking indexes.

In pollster.com's generic ballot composite index, for example, Republicans narrowly lead Democrats 42.7% to 41.3%. But when you exclude Rasmussen and YouGov (a Democratic leaning internet poll), Democrats lead by a slightly larger 44.5% to 42.0% margin. Including YouGov would have given Democrats a larger 47.3% to 41.4% margin, meaning that the inclusion of Rasmussen alone results in a huge 7.3% swing towards the GOP.

Obviously, tracking polls don't actually count for anything when it comes to tabulating ballots, but they do have a big impact on narrative, and the impact of Rasmussen's numbers on the overall composite was shocking to me, to put it mildly.

Of course, Rasmussen's "Republican house effect" doesn't mean we're looking at another Strategic Vision here and I want to stress that the only point I'm making in this post is that at least in national tracking polls, in any given timeframe, a Rasmussen poll is overwhelmingly likely to show better news for the GOP than any other poll.

To illustrate this point, I generated a series of scatter plot charts using pollster.com's index of polls. Every poll in pollster.com's index is represented on each chart by a dot, plotted horizontally by the date of the poll, and vertically by the results of the poll.

Rasmussen polls are in red; every other poll is in green. Shaded red areas on the charts represent areas where results would favor the GOP.

I think you'll see that Rasmussen polls literally stand out from all the others and they almost always deliver good news for the GOP.

Now get off your ass and look at the charts on the links I provided.

I just have 2 words in response...

LIKELY VOTERS!

JFC :banghead:

[Hawkeye2j]

I just have 2 words in response...

LIKELY VOTERS!

JFC :banghead:
It is not speculation. That is my research. Is there a need for that language?

[bairdi]

Bullshit.

They poll likely voters, while other public opinion polls just poll adults over 18. That's why they are so accurate when it comes to predicting elections.

Attack all you want, but come November, Rasmussen will have the last laugh.
WTF is the demographics of a likely voter? They certainly seem to lean toward conservative.

[Smurf-Herder]

bayoubuzz.com?

It's for the liberal southern swamp-dwelling elite. :lmao2: