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Hawkeye2j
04-14-2010, 12:22 PM
Report: Breitbart used 'wrong video' to claim Dem lawmakers lied about racial slurs

For weeks, an argument has been raging between liberal and conservative commentators over whether or not Tea Party protesters yelled racist and homophobic slurs at Democratic lawmakers on the day the House passed the health care overhaul.

During a March 20 anti-health reform Tea Party protest at Capitol Hill, numerous Democratic lawmakers said they had been the targets of abusive language.

http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0413/ap-factchecks-breitbart-loses/

CommonCents
04-14-2010, 12:26 PM
Report: Breitbart used 'wrong video' to claim Dem lawmakers lied about racial slurs

For weeks, an argument has been raging between liberal and conservative commentators over whether or not Tea Party protesters yelled racist and homophobic slurs at Democratic lawmakers on the day the House passed the health care overhaul.

During a March 20 anti-health reform Tea Party protest at Capitol Hill, numerous Democratic lawmakers said they had been the targets of abusive language.

http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0413/ap-factchecks-breitbart-loses/

So where's the video proving that racial slurs were used?

He's still offering $100,000 to the United Negro College Fund if someone provides evidence that backs up the allegation.

Hawkeye2j
04-14-2010, 01:35 PM
The post is about this guy using a false video to prove his point.

CommonCents
04-14-2010, 01:52 PM
The post is about this guy using a false video to prove his point.

This entire thing revolves around one central issue. The alleged racial slurs made by Tea Party protesters.

This is a lame ass attempt to steer away from the fact that even though dozens and dozens of cameras were rolling, not one on them caught any of the alleged slurs.

If the left had proof, they would be laughing all the way to the bank. Since they don't, they will try and use shit like this to discredit Tea Party supporters instead.

It's pathetic.

Hawkeye2j
04-14-2010, 01:59 PM
This entire thing revolves around one central issue. The alleged racial slurs made by Tea Party protesters.

This is a lame ass attempt to steer away from the fact that even though dozens and dozens of cameras were rolling, not one on them caught any of the alleged slurs.

If the left had proof, they would be laughing all the way to the bank. Since they don't, they will try and use shit like this to discredit Tea Party supporters instead.

It's pathetic.
Not everybody carries a video camera with them. Does John Lewis appear to you as someone who would make this up?

CommonCents
04-14-2010, 02:04 PM
Not everybody carries a video camera with them. Does John Lewis appear to you as someone who would make this up?

He is a liberal democrat, so the answer is a resounding YES.

The democrats are in big trouble, and they will lie, cheat and steal to protect their power, and right now, the Tea Party is threatening that power.

mwillman
04-14-2010, 02:06 PM
The tea party is a fucking joke.
All it will do is split the republican vote so I fully support your desire to create a far right reactionary party full of racists and ignorant rednecks.

Citizen
04-14-2010, 02:11 PM
The left is so desperate right now. Got your race cards laminated yet? Its a joke and nobody cares to pay attention to. Its a tired, cowardly and gutless, weak and pathetic tactic. What about those unemployment numbers? "Who cares? We're talking about playground chants. That's more important to the future of this country." In all honesty I have no clue how anybody (even themselves) can take them seriously.

mwillman
04-14-2010, 02:12 PM
The right is so desperate all they can do is scream and howl like the really bad losers you are. It not the democrats fault that you are the minority.

CommonCents
04-14-2010, 02:15 PM
Not everybody carries a video camera with them. Does John Lewis appear to you as someone who would make this up?

How about Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. He filmed the entire episode from right there on the front lines. Where is that video? :lmao2:

Hawkeye2j
04-14-2010, 02:32 PM
How about Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. He filmed the entire episode from right there on the front lines. Where is that video? :lmao2:
How do you know at what point his filming began or completed?

Smurf-Herder
04-14-2010, 08:59 PM
How do you know at what point his filming began or completed?

There was a girl interviewed, I believe from Politico, who reviewed 22 videos of the exact event and none had any racial surs on the audio. Today I heard the story, complete with interviews was in the media 90 minutes after it happened.

The whole fucking thing was a setup - just like the half-assed attempts at smearing the tea party protesters

22 videos - and NONE with racial slurs. You'd think if it existed, it would be drawing huge numbers on YouTube by now. But it doesn't exist, because it never happened.

GetAClue
04-14-2010, 09:02 PM
There was a girl interviewed, I believe from Politico, who reviewed 22 videos of the exact event and none had any racial surs on the audio. Today I heard the story, complete with interviews was in the media 90 minutes after it happened.

The whole fucking thing was a setup - just like the half-assed attempts at smearing the tea party protesters

22 videos - and NONE with racial slurs. You'd think if it existed, it would be drawing huge numbers on YouTube by now. But it doesn't exist, because it never happened.
That is a logical argument that will be ignored by our leftist friends. According to them, the fact that it does not appear on video or audio is proof that it DID happen. Go figure.

doctordog
04-14-2010, 09:04 PM
The right is so desperate all they can do is scream and howl like the really bad losers you are. It not the democrats fault that you are the minority.

Is that why Bush served two terms and Obama will only serve one? Gotcha;)

Hawkeye2j
04-14-2010, 09:13 PM
There was a girl interviewed, I believe from Politico, who reviewed 22 videos of the exact event and none had any racial surs on the audio. Today I heard the story, complete with interviews was in the media 90 minutes after it happened.

The whole fucking thing was a setup - just like the half-assed attempts at smearing the tea party protesters

22 videos - and NONE with racial slurs. You'd think if it existed, it would be drawing huge numbers on YouTube by now. But it doesn't exist, because it never happened.
Link to the interview?

foxbaron
04-14-2010, 09:42 PM
Report: Breitbart used 'wrong video' to claim Dem lawmakers lied about racial slurs

For weeks, an argument has been raging between liberal and conservative commentators over whether or not Tea Party protesters yelled racist and homophobic slurs at Democratic lawmakers on the day the House passed the health care overhaul.

During a March 20 anti-health reform Tea Party protest at Capitol Hill, numerous Democratic lawmakers said they had been the targets of abusive language.

http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0413/ap-factchecks-breitbart-loses/


So what if they had been? Whats your point?
Somebody may have called them a name and now their feelings are hurt?
I thoght politics was a blood sport for these people.
What a bunch of whinny ass babies.

Smurf-Herder
04-14-2010, 09:48 PM
Link to the interview?

It was on TV.

Prove to me the actual event itself happened. Give me the link that proves the incident of racial slurs.

Hawkeye2j
04-14-2010, 09:49 PM
It was on TV.

Prove to me the actual event itself happened. Give me the link that proves the incident of racial slurs.
I am sure there is a tape somewhere. I don't have it.

Smurf-Herder
04-14-2010, 09:53 PM
I am sure there is a tape somewhere. I don't have it.

Get real.

If it existed, it would be on YouTube. And there's $100,000 prize for whoever has it.

Smurf-Herder
04-14-2010, 10:01 PM
A Closer Look at the Capitol Steps Conspiracy

William Douglas, an African-American reporter for the liberal McClatchy Newspapers, seems to have broken the story at 4:51 PM on Saturday, March 20, just hours after the alleged incident took place. Douglas did so with the seriously inflammatory headline, "Tea party protesters scream 'nigger' at black congressman."

At 7:21 PM that same evening, Douglas upped the ante with a headline that moved from inflammatory to incendiary: "Tea party protesters call Georgia's John Lewis 'nigger.'"

As Douglas reminds his audience in the lead of the second posting, "civil rights icon" Lewis, now a Georgia congressman, "was nearly beaten to death during an Alabama march in the 1960s." The focus on Lewis encouraged the Washington Post's Colby King to opine a few days later that "[t]he angry faces at Tea Party rallies are eerily familiar. They resemble faces of protesters lining the street at the University of Alabama in 1956."

King's take perfectly mirrored the Democratic talking points. If the immediate strategy was to discredit the Tea party movement as racist and split the movement's base from the Republican Party, then it was working splendidly.

By Sunday morning, March 21, House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) was publicly denouncing the actions on the Capitol steps as "reprehensible." What Boehner did not know at the time is that he had been himself victimized in one of the most appallingly successful media scams in recent years.

If it were not for those damn ubiquitous video cameras, House Democrats and their media allies would have gotten away with it entirely. Instead, they must content themselves with a victory only among those who rely for the news on an increasingly myopic major media.

To discover what did happen, I have reviewed video from at least four different sources, talked to several eyewitnesses, and analyzed the early media reports from the scene.

Bottom line: the Douglas story would seem to meet the standards for libel. It is provably false, preposterously reckless, quite possibly malicious, and has caused real damage to publicly identified Tea Party leaders.

Here is what happened. Rather than use the tunnel from the Cannon Office Building to the Capitol, a contingent from the Black Caucus chose to walk through a crowd of protesters. In none of the videos shot that day, including those by the members of the Caucus themselves, has anyone identified a single audible racial slur.

What the videos show are protesters booing the black congressmen as lustily as they did their white counterparts. The one thing they do scream is the racially neutral "Kill the bill." The caucus members pass without incident until they reach the Capitol steps. There, an inattentive Representative Emanuel Cleaver (D-MO), flanked by a police officer, walks right in front of a man who has been screaming "kill the bill" through cupped hands for at least the last ten seconds.

Cleaver appears to get caught in the vocal spray. Once the videos emerged, Cleaver would tell the Washington Post that the man "allowed saliva to hit my face." In the immediate aftermath of the incident, however, a visibly angry Cleaver -- he poked his finger in the man's face after being sprayed -- spread a much darker story.

As Douglas reported in his 4:21 posting, Cleaver's office claimed in a statement "that [Cleaver] had also been spat upon and that Capitol Police had arrested his assailant." The Cleaver statement continued, "The man who spat on the congressman was arrested, but the congressman has chosen not to press charges."

Yael T. Abouhalkah, the editorial page columnist in Cleaver's hometown Kansas City Star, a McClatchy paper, captured the party line nicely with the claim that "some Tea Party supporter spat on Cleaver Saturday on Capitol Hill because the U.S. congressman is black." The video evidence belies all this nonsense.

About a minute after the incident, Cleaver returns to the scene of the crime with a Capitol Police officer. The "assailant" is still standing there shouting, unaware that he has committed anything like a crime. Heck, until a year or so ago, he had been led to believe that dissent was patriotic, not racist. More embarrassingly, Cleaver fails to recognize the man even though he is standing right in front of him, and the man is making no effort to hide. There is no arrest, no detention as Cleaver's office would later claim, no noble decision to not press charges.

"There were no elements of a crime, and the individual wasn't able to be positively identified," a spokeswoman for the Capitol Police would tell FoxNews.com. "[Cleaver] was unable to positively identify." More troubling, in Douglas's report, it was only Cleaver who was said to hear the word "nigger." Even in the later posting, "Tea party protesters call Georgia's John Lewis 'nigger,'" Lewis himself does not make this claim.

"They were shouting, sort of harassing," Lewis told Douglas. What they shouted, Douglas reports, is "kill the bill, kill the bill." House majority whip James CIyburn, who walked with the contingent, heard no racist remarks, either. "I experienced some of [the anger]," Clyburn told Keith Olbermann on March 22. "I didn`t hear the slurs."

Douglas cites only Cleaver as the person who "distinctly heard 'nigger.'" It is Douglas himself who inflates that one one word into multiple "protestors" who "scream" it at Lewis. There is no story without that word, and given the lack of video evidence and Cleaver's willingness to dissemble on the alleged arrest, there is no reason to believe him.

Nor is there any reason to believe Congressional Black Caucus member Andre Carson (D-IN), one of only two Muslims in Congress and a member of the progressive caucus. If Cleaver actually thought that he heard the slur in question, and he may have, then Carson told a story too outsized to be anything but willful propaganda.

According to Brian Beutler in the Talking Points Memo posted at 5:41 PM on that Saturday, March 20, Carson had "a particularly jarring encounter with a large crowd of protesters screaming 'kill the bill' ... and punctuating their chants with the word 'nigger.'"

Although Carson claims to have been standing next to Lewis, Lewis again provides no confirmation. He is quoted only as saying, "People have been just downright mean." Regardless, it is Lewis who is the subject of Beutler's headline, "Tea Partiers Call Lewis ‘N****r.'" (For the record, Beutler, a recent Berkeley grad, has written for the American Prospect, The Nation, Mother Jones, and The Guardian.)

Carson claims that the incident occurred when the group was walking from the Capitol. The Cleaver incident allegedly occurred while the group was walking to the Capitol. The lack of any audio or video evidence of at least two incidents of a "large crowd" of protesters shouting racial slurs should have killed this story before it left the gate. Even without the contrary video evidence, Carson's charge is so at odds with the reality of America circa 2010 that it undermines the credibility of any media person who reported it with a straight face.

One of my correspondents, who was on the Capitol steps when the caucus members entered and exited, makes a sage observation: "And if what these congressmen said was true, wouldn't it be logical to think that there would have been many more Capitol Police officers escorting these gentlemen back into the Cannon building when they returned?" Videos show that there were only two police officers, and they were walking behind the congressmen when they left the Capitol.

Still, this was more than enough for the factually indifferent Olbermann to conclude, "If racism is not the whole of the Tea Party, it is in its heart." To drive this point home, do not be surprised if some provocateurs on the left contrive an even more dramatic smear before November 2010.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/03/a_closer_look_at_the_capitol_s.html

Surfrider
04-14-2010, 10:24 PM
A Closer Look at the Capitol Steps Conspiracy

......William Douglas, an African-American reporter for the liberal McClatchy Newspapers, seems to have broken the story at 4:51 PM on Saturday, March 20, just hours after the alleged incident took place. Douglas did so with the seriously inflammatory headline, "Tea party protesters scream 'nigger' at black congressman......."

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/03/a_closer_look_at_the_capitol_s.html

Suddenly this American Thinker is pops up as a credible source, as the third largest newspaper chain, and supposedly contains a liberal bias. I wanted to know more about McClatchy Company Newspapers, and learned it does not take much to be the third largest owners of newspapers in this country anymore, (wake-up, divest, buy a couple good Dish Network channels).

So here is their well advertised "liberal" web page with a graphic of Hillary Clinton rewriting the Second Ammendment to the U. S. Constitution. I needed that 'head spinning around' graphic I've used before that indicates confusion. Is this liberal media attacking a liberal politician, and throwing in some glib graphics from the RIGHT?

I still don't know much about McClatchy Newspapers or the American Thinker web site, but I do know they are not the Washington Post or the New York Times. It is not difficult for me to accept that the RIGHT will stoop to any level to achieve their agenda including the use of the N**** or F** words. More importantly I am unclear as to what American Thinker is trying to say that relates to this thread. I thought the original thread posting was direct, and did not need American Thinker to confuse the issue.