It's Funny How A Lot Of Conservatives Are Being Quiet About...

[Politicz]

...the latest homosexual scandal within the republican party-especially when the republican party claims to be the "Family Values" party. The republican party also claims to be more morally aligned with God than the democrats (however, neither are even close to being aligned with God concerning anything "moral").

But, back to the hypocracy within the republican party. Here you have a devout liar like Senator Larry Craig, who gets caught trying to solicit sex from an undercover cop in a public restroom. Senator Craig tells the police after he is arrested that he stuck his hand into the stall beside him, because he was trying to get a piece of toilet paper off of the floor that he had dropped, and that just happened to fall on the floor in the other stall. Now, I don't know about any of you other fellas, but if a piece of toilet paper fell on a public restroom floor-I'm not going to pick it up and use it! :eek: What's Senator Craig revealing by telling the police this flemsy story-that he want's to get ass rot or something?

Next, the police asked Senator Craig how come he stuck his foot under the wall next to the adjoining stall, and then made fag jestures with it to the undercover cop-the same fag jestures according to the police, that a lot of other married men use when they are looking for sex in public restrooms with other men. And, of course Senator Craig had a feeble excuse for this too. "Oh, I'm a large man, and I need a lot of room to spread my legs", Senator Craig told the police. "I'm an honorable man-I'm a senator of the United States." However, Senator Craig's unwarranted arrogance got him nowhere, because the cop confessed to him how ashamed he was of Senator Craig, and how he found it hard to even respect him.

After Senator Larry Craig lied obsessively, and ranted on, and on about his prestigeous job title, and hinted at how the police officers could kiss on his sorry ass, when Craig finally figured out his "johnson" cruising ass wasn't going to get over, because the police wasn't buying his lame as excuses, his repulsive ass finally admitted to being guilty of a lewd, and deplorable act in a public facility. Senator Larry Craig then signed police statements to this fact, and paid a $500 fine, too.

Now, months after the incident, Senator Craig is trying to say that it was all a misunderstand, and that the police just misunderstood. Craig says he only admitted to guilt of trying to suck johnson is a public restroom, because he wanted it all to just go away-and that's why he paid the $500 dollar fine, too. He had also stated at the time that this happened that he admitted guilt because he felt intimidated by the "big, young, strapping, black officer" who caught Senator Craig's sorry, pathetic, lying ass.

Now, fellas, I don't know about you, but if I wasn't trying to solicit sex from another man in a public restroom, couldn't a damn cop in the world intimidate me enough to make me emasculate myself to the point of admitting to trying to solicit dick from another man in a public restroom. Uh, HELL NO! That cop would have had to just shoot my ass-regardless of what color he was!

Now, Senator Larry Craig has even dragged his poor wife into his johnson mess, by having her stand beside him in front of the news media cameras, while he continues to lie in order to try and save his job, and probably his marriage, too. "Oh, I love my wife-see here she is, and I'm married. I didn't know the man in the next stall was an undercover cop-I just thought he was a strapping black guy who probably had a big johnson that I could suck on. Oh, but I want all of my constituents from Idaho to know that this has all been just a big misunderstanding on the part of the cops, and that all I was trying to do is pick some toilet paper up off of the floor in the next stall. I love my wife-God knows, I love my wife." However, Senator Craigs wife just stood there, trying to keep as straight of a face as possible, without revealing her complete embarrassment and humiliation by her pathetic excuse of a husband, Senator Larry Craig. And, the news media cameras flashed on.

Should Senator Larry Craig be allowed to remain a senator of the United States, since he has formally signed police documentations to wrong doing, and paid a fine, too? Not because he was trying to engage in a homosexual act, but because he has a criminal record now, and because he has been lying about the entire incident.


Or, should Senator Larry Craig be allowed to continue to be a Senator for the republican party, and help drag the republican party down even further, so that every American has a real good idea that the republican party's "family values, and morallity" agenda is really nothing more than bullshit hypocracy-especially when Senator Larry Craig is against homosexual marriage or extending civil rights legislation to protect homosexuals from harm-while at the same time, Senator Craig has been indulging himself with homosexual activities, and has gotten caught trying to engage in closet homosexual acts. Kind of makes you wonder, how many other closet johnson suckers are hiding within the republican party-especially since this is the second time within the G.W. Bush's presidency that homosexual scandal has been revealed. Where's the masculinity in the republican party-who has enough balls to stand up, and show the American people that they are not going to tolerate this type of criminal behavior? Who in the republican party is going to show that they stand for morality?

What do you think should happen to Senator Larry Craig because of his toilet chronicles?:o ,:disbelief: ,:lmao2:

[Moby]

Actually they're calling for him to resign. They have enough problems trying to convince people that they have family values. Giuliani can't make that claim with 3 marriages and parading his last mistress around town while still being married to wife #2. Romeny can't make it because he's a mormon.

That leaves only good ole Fred.

They can't have any gay people in the party when Fred finally announces late so he doesn't have to file any reports until January.

Vittel is being left alone because he was fucking hookers while being married but the hookers were female so that's OK. Besides, he spoke with God and was forgiven :lmao2:

[moonman]

God is gay.

[Politicz]

Actually they're calling for him to resign. They have enough problems trying to convince people that they have family values. Giuliani can't make that claim with 3 marriages and parading his last mistress around town while still being married to wife #2. Romeny can't make it because he's a mormon.

That leaves only good ole Fred.

They can't have any gay people in the party when Fred finally announces late so he doesn't have to file any reports until January.

Vittel is being left alone because he was fucking hookers while being married but the hookers were female so that's OK. Besides, he spoke with God and was forgiven :lmao2:

A lot of people are saying they hope the republicans keep Senator Craig on board with their party, so that he can continue to help them implode on themselves. If he had of been soliciting sex from a woman in the public restroom, and admitted guilt to this, he would still probably be asked to step down by the republican party, because they are good at having a zero tollerance rating for politicians within their party who are caught up in immoral scandals, money laundering, and criminal homosexual behaviors (Mark Foley is a perfect example). Senator Craig was stupid to admit to the police that he was trying to solicit cock in a public restroom-especially when it since he didn't have a lawyer with him, and it would have boiled down to a he said he said argument, that he would have probably won if it went to court. Also, his stupid ass paid a fine of $500 too, and tried to hide the whole incident from his wife.:banghead: , :o , , :lmao2:

[Politicz]

God is gay.
Hee, hee, hee....:lmao2: ,:p ,:lmao2:

[Linkster]

Two main problems with this whole thing
First - if he continues to deny that this stuff happened - he can be re-arrested for perjury in front of the judge - its against the law to lie on a guilty plea
Second - and the big issue - it doesnt matter about the gayness - most of the republican party has run on "family TRADITIONAL values" - which is not just about gayness- its about staying with the same woman you married - even if you have problems (working them out like the Clintons did) - not running off to a mistress to get some on the side - and raising a family in the "traditional" way - This is what they ran for election on - so any congressman that has sex with a hooker, has a 2nd or 3rd wife and tons of "step-children" is already breaking their promise to the people that voted for them

[Betty Blowtorch]

God is gay.
Jesus is a gay pedophile http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/65/jesusconvictednc0.gif
and a registered sex offender in Texas.


Jesus says it's OK http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/1085/jesusblowthelordtp5.gif
for priests to have sex with young boys.

They're doing the lord's work.

[Stormy]

What the hell! Does this board have NO boundaries?

These pictures are acceptable here? If so, please cancel my account effective immediately.

[Moby]

What the hell! Does this board have NO boundaries?

These pictures are acceptable here? If so, please cancel my account effective immediately.
It seems they are still acceptable here. I quit coming here for about 6 months the last time I saw something like this.

I guess I'm gone again.

[disrupter]

The reason most people turn to monotheistic religions is so they can reject their own humanity. It frees them up to become inhuman monsters, how ever insane that may be.

I guess it is pretty hard to reject your own biology when you live in it everyday, as is evidenced by more Republican leadership hypocrisy.

They are completely detached from reality,
everything is 'explained' extra universally. @@

Instead of impossible standards that have nothing to do with reality
why not set up standards of ethics, where people don't gullibly expect them to be adhered to for 'magical' reasons, but understand their rational basis [need] & take care that all, including themselves do the work, make the effort to insure they ARE ACTUALLY adhered to.

Oh, wait, i forgot we operate on superstition rather than reason.

better sacrifice some more chickens & goats, in hopes we don't have to escalate to making human sacrifices for oil & other absurdities.

Oops, i guess we are already there.

[Bill]

What the hell! Does this board have NO boundaries?

These pictures are acceptable here? If so, please cancel my account effective immediately.

Since they are not explicit, and issues of sexual hypocrisy within religion are legitimate topics, especially given religion's attempt to force itself into the political discourse, they are acceptable.

If religion doesn't want to face ridicule, it shouldn't be political.

This ain't saudi arabia. We aren't taliban. Poking fun at religion, even if in questionable taste, is allowed discourse.

However, Betty, do me a favor and be extremely sparing with that second image, because it could be misunderstood as an implicit promotion of pedophilia.

[disrupter]

As a free person i should not have to bear the chattels of somebody else's [your] 'sacredness' without my consent.

Do not presume too much,

especially when you do not respect the presumptions of others.

[Betty Blowtorch]

What the hell! Does this board have NO boundaries?

These pictures are acceptable here? If so, please
cancel my account effective immediately.
Well, I suppose you can stomp your feet and storm off
like a little kid. Or gee... you could behave like an adult
and try to articulate an intelligent argument in support
of your position, which is... what?

Apparently your religious sensibilities have been offended.
Are you suggesting that the subject of religion is off limits?
If so, I'm not aware of that rule.

Are you suggesting that Christianity is somehow sacrosanct,
and that any satirical references to Christian hypocrisy are
unacceptable? If so, give us an articulate argument. You
claim to be a professional freelance writer, so you should
have no trouble propounding an articulate argument on
this subject.

Why should religion be off limits on this forum?

People often expound political and religious views which
I find offensive and disturbing, but I don't run away like
a little kid. I either ignore it or I respond to it.

Are you suggesting that this forum should be governed
by the principle that nothing should be permitted that
might offend someone? If that's the case, let's just
throw every right-wing Repug off the forum, then the
liberals won't have to worry about being offended by
right-wing horseshit. (Or vice versa.)

What exactly are you bitching about?
Be articulate.

[Stormy]

Since they are not explicit, and issues of sexual hypocrisy within religion are legitimate topics, especially given religion's attempt to force itself into the political discourse, they are acceptable.

If religion doesn't want to face ridicule, it shouldn't be political.

This ain't saudi arabia. We aren't taliban. Poking fun at religion, even if in questionable taste, is allowed discourse.

However, Betty, do me a favor and be extremely sparing with that second image, because it could be misunderstood as an implicit promotion of pedophilia.
Here is what I am hearing. Blah, blah, blah. We do in fact promote pedophilia on these boards and ANY excuse will do.

Look at the photo of the young boy positioned to perform a sexual act on a grown man.

How happy NAMBLA must be.

Please delete my account.

[Stormy]

As a free person i should not have to bear the chattels of somebody else's [your] 'sacredness' without my consent.

Do not presume too much,

especially when you do not respect the presumptions of others.As an adult you should bear the chattels of protecting the young.

However, this is apparently something you all get off on here.

Not my kind of crowd.:talktothehand:

[Bill]

Here is what I am hearing. Blah, blah, blah. We do in fact promote pedophilia on these boards and ANY excuse will do.

Look at the photo of the young boy positioned to perform a sexual act on a grown man.

How happy NAMBLA must be.

Please delete my account.

Sorry to hear that you want to go. However, it isn't my policy to delete accounts.

But this is a board that allows such things, or has been to date.

The image in question is not explicit enough to warrant censorship. The image is in fact pre-existing religious iconography, and does not in itself demonstrate anything sexual.

It's a crude joke. Tasteless, yes, but tasteless is often in the eye of the beholder. But this is a board for open adult discussion, and that can include tasteless jokes.

I don't censor tastelessness, from either side.

I suspect you may be making an issue of this for political reasons, a fairly standard tactic of fundamentalists of every stripe.

I can't help but wonder if the image had been of Mohammad, if you would be so offended.

However, if you are actually offended, I'm sorry to hear that you are offended, but I have to point out that this is not intended to be a family-freindly board. Pedophilia in religion is a well known political and religious issue, that has been openly discussed in media accessible to people of all ages, sexes, and sensibilities.

[Betty Blowtorch]

Here is what I am hearing. Blah, blah, blah.
We do in fact promote pedophilia on these boards
and ANY excuse will do.

Look at the photo of the young boy positioned to
perform a sexual act on a grown man.

How happy NAMBLA must be.

Please delete my account.
OK, Stormy, I just read your post, and now I understand where
you're coming from. You saw the picture of Jesus and the boy
as a promotion of pedophilia.

Frankly, I'm shocked at your reaction. It hadn't occurred to me
that anyone would take it the way you did.

I thought you were pissed off because you're religiously offended,
that I offended your Christian faith.

By painting Jesus as a gay pedophile, the cartoon is intended
to be a satirical attack on the central icon of Christianity.

It hadn't occurred to me that anyone would see it sexually,
as some kind of titillation or promotion of gay pedophilia.

I doubt if gay pedophiles will be sexually aroused by this crude
little cartoon which is not at all explicit, but only suggestive
of lewd conduct on the part of Jesus, the central icon.

I thought the meaning was obvious. I'm sorry you misunderstood.

Take another look at the cartoon. This time don't look at it as
gay child pornography. It's not. It's a satirical attack on the
pedophile priests scandal which has been in the news.

[Jennifer]

What's the difference between Republicans and Democrats?

When Republicans find a member involved in a sex scandal, they force him out of the party.

When Democrats find a member involved in sex scandals, they force him into the White House!

[Linkster]

So why would Bush Jr get forced into the White House since he was having gay hookers brought to the white house when he was younger when daddy was Pres?

[Jennifer]

So why would Bush Jr get forced into the White House since he was having gay hookers brought to the white house when he was younger when daddy was Pres?


And if that were true, their would be a never ending drum beat of this on every liberal media outlet in the country and Bush would be forced to resign by the Republican Party and Cheney would run the country.

[Linkster]

Most of those involved in the news these days dont even know about it:
http://www.thelawparty.org/FranklinCoverup/franklin.htm

Unfortunately it seems recently that the CIA has removed one of the players

http://www.newsmakingnews.com/sexandcapitol7,18,01.htm#article4

[Jennifer]

Most of those involved in the news these days dont even know about it:
http://www.thelawparty.org/FranklinCoverup/franklin.htm

Unfortunately it seems recently that the CIA has removed one of the players

http://www.newsmakingnews.com/sexandcapitol7,18,01.htm#article4


Sorry, but man, that sounds like a conspiracy theory if I ever heard one!


"Where this tin foil hat, they can read your mind! Hey man, just cause you don't know it don't mean it's not true! Oh yea, the media don't know man, here, smoke this, you'll learn about it! I'm tellin ya, L. Ron Hubbard was right man!"

Sorry to poke fun, but look at it from my shoes. Here you are trying to tell me that President Bush is Gay (with a wife and two daughters) and that it isn't brought to light by the liberal media because they don't know about it. But you do!

You see why I am a little incredulous? If it were true, I'd bet the AP, CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, the New York Post, the Washington Times, the LA Times, the Chicago Tribune and every other major liberal media outlet would be running that story 24/7. Hell, that would have probably given Gore and Kerry the victory instead of them losing to President Bush in his campaigns!

[Linkster]

I wish it were conspiricy theory - but the Wahington Times ran the stories back then for weeks - they even had the credit card receipts - then people started showing up "suidices" - and they stopped.
I dont know if you remember recently about a man that was found in Thailand that was escorted back to the US (by Homeland Security for some reason) for supposed pedofilia charges in California - and then was released
Amazingly his name shows up on some of the CC receipts from back then - he was one of the boys - he has now dissapeared again

[Jennifer]

Yea, only it was in the 1990's and it was Clinton Incorporated doing it.

Wrong decade, try again.

[Linkster]

Read the newspaper posted - it was 1989 and GB Sr was in the white house at the time

[Politicz]

Actually they're calling for him to resign. They have enough problems trying to convince people that they have family values. Giuliani can't make that claim with 3 marriages and parading his last mistress around town while still being married to wife #2. Romeny can't make it because he's a mormon.

That leaves only good ole Fred.

They can't have any gay people in the party when Fred finally announces late so he doesn't have to file any reports until January.

Vittel is being left alone because he was fucking hookers while being married but the hookers were female so that's OK. Besides, he spoke with God and was forgiven :lmao2:

Geez, I quess Larry Craig just can't stop emasulating himself before the news media cameras over this mess. Hell, even to this day (Sept 7, 2007) he has been flip flopping on if he's going to resign at the end of September or not. Now, he's claiming he's going to try to get the admission of guilt papers he signed overturned, and removed from his criminal records. "I'll be vendicated", said Senator Craig, "Then all of the republicans will have to put up me with until my term as Senator for I da ho is up." But, the question is this, what is Senator Craig going to be vendicated of-especially according to news media reports, a few years ago a male prostitute came forward and claimed to have had sex with Craig. Oh, well, I guess this too is just a misunderstanding on everyone elses part, and Senator Craig's lips just accidently tried to wrap themselves around some undercover cop's johnson. Not to mention that the news medias could only show part of the bathroom incident that was descent for t.v. viewers. What a lame, lying loser. However, I hope he does stay in the republican party, so that the republicans can implode in on themselves.:banghead: ,:lmao2:

[Politicz]

Two main problems with this whole thing
First - if he continues to deny that this stuff happened - he can be re-arrested for perjury in front of the judge - its against the law to lie on a guilty plea
Second - and the big issue - it doesnt matter about the gayness - most of the republican party has run on "family TRADITIONAL values" - which is not just about gayness- its about staying with the same woman you married - even if you have problems (working them out like the Clintons did) - not running off to a mistress to get some on the side - and raising a family in the "traditional" way - This is what they ran for election on - so any congressman that has sex with a hooker, has a 2nd or 3rd wife and tons of "step-children" is already breaking their promise to the people that voted for them

When someone is forced or feels obligated to stay with their spouse-even though they hate them, and want to crush their emotions or kill them, usually that person ends up acting out anyway by having affairs with other women/men outside their marriages, or suckin' on cock/eating p*ssy, etc. However, politicians are public servants to the people of America, therefore everything they do is going to end up in the news medias-especially if you get caught by an undercover cop in a public restroom trying to suck on cock. Now, we all know that senator Craig is either a complete idiot for signing those police documents of guilt, or the police have enough evidence on video and tape recordings that proves senator Craig's guilt. And, chances are the latter is the case, and this is the real reason why senator Craig waited two months to think about the incident, then went and signed the documents admitting that he was guilty. The more he opens his mouth about all of this, the more he looks like the complete liar that he probably is. However, I hope he does stay in the republican party, so he can bring them to their knees.:o

[Politicz]

What the hell! Does this board have NO boundaries?

These pictures are acceptable here? If so, please cancel my account effective immediately.

If you saw these same pictures in church without the statements with them, would you find them offensive? Hello-I've seen these same pictures in some Christian and Cathelic churches. So, I guess you better stop going to church,too. :talktothehand:, :o , :lmao2: , :lmao2:

[Politicz]

The reason most people turn to monotheistic religions is so they can reject their own humanity. It frees them up to become inhuman monsters, how ever insane that may be.

I guess it is pretty hard to reject your own biology when you live in it everyday, as is evidenced by more Republican leadership hypocrisy.

They are completely detached from reality,
everything is 'explained' extra universally. @@

Instead of impossible standards that have nothing to do with reality
why not set up standards of ethics, where people don't gullibly expect them to be adhered to for 'magical' reasons, but understand their rational basis [need] & take care that all, including themselves do the work, make the effort to insure they ARE ACTUALLY adhered to.

Oh, wait, i forgot we operate on superstition rather than reason.

better sacrifice some more chickens & goats, in hopes we don't have to escalate to making human sacrifices for oil & other absurdities.

Oops, i guess we are already there.

Great post, and Senator Larry Craig personifies your last statement about people being stupid. So, let the republican implosion continue....go, Larry, go, solicit some undercover cops for sex some more, and bring down the republican party to the floor!....:D , :lmao2:

[Politicz]

Well, I suppose you can stomp your feet and storm off
like a little kid. Or gee... you could behave like an adult
and try to articulate an intelligent argument in support
of your position, which is... what?

Apparently your religious sensibilities have been offended.
Are you suggesting that the subject of religion is off limits?
If so, I'm not aware of that rule.

Are you suggesting that Christianity is somehow sacrosanct,
and that any satirical references to Christian hypocrisy are
unacceptable? If so, give us an articulate argument. You
claim to be a professional freelance writer, so you should
have no trouble propounding an articulate argument on
this subject.

Why should religion be off limits on this forum?

People often expound political and religious views which
I find offensive and disturbing, but I don't run away like
a little kid. I either ignore it or I respond to it.

Are you suggesting that this forum should be governed
by the principle that nothing should be permitted that
might offend someone? If that's the case, let's just
throw every right-wing Repug off the forum, then the
liberals won't have to worry about being offended by
right-wing horseshit. (Or vice versa.)

What exactly are you bitching about?
Be articulate.

Hee, hee, hee, hee.....:lmao2: , :D ,...hee, hee, hee..:lmao2:

[Politicz]

So why would Bush Jr get forced into the White House since he was having gay hookers brought to the white house when he was younger when daddy was Pres?

Now, now, we all know this isn't true, especially when rumors have been floating that Bush, Jr. has been knockin' Condi Rice's boots since before he was first elected president. And, can't you tell-hell Condi Rice is nothing more than a chocolate, female version of Bush. I guess that happened mentally happened to her when she let Bush knock her boots.:D , :lmao2:

[Politicz]

Most of those involved in the news these days dont even know about it:
http://www.thelawparty.org/FranklinCoverup/franklin.htm

Unfortunately it seems recently that the CIA has removed one of the players

http://www.newsmakingnews.com/sexandcapitol7,18,01.htm#article4

Maybe this is why we have a "do nothing government" right now. If this is true, unfortunately it is not a surprise-just pathetic.:o

[Linkster]

He may be knocking down Condi now - at least thats what the insiders say in Wash since Laura has been mostly living in a hotel near the white house - but when he was younger - those gay hookers were going to the white house for him and they have all been mysteriously ending up as suicides lately - not only that but there are over 200 credit card receipts that prove the story - thats why a respected newspaper investigated it and ran with the stories for a long time back then - and I can tell you Rev Moon (who owns the Washington Times) isnt gonna put his neck on the line for fake stories