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Bill
08-29-2007, 10:19 PM
So, this article says, because americans were suffering from "mortality salience", they flocked to strongman Bush.

The more afraid of death you are, the more you are attracted to strong punishments and strong leaders - duh!

Is the whole thing worth reading - naaa - but it's skimable.

"In June 2004, I went door to door in a white, working- class neighborhood of Martinsburg, West Virginia, a small blue-collar town in decline. There, I found voters disillusioned with both the Iraq war and the flagging economy. But, when I returned five months later-- the Sunday before the election--I had difficulty digging up anyone who didn't plan to vote for George W. Bush. As far as I could tell, Martinsburg voters were backing him for two reasons: first, because he opposed gay marriage and abortion ("There are two gays around the corner who are voting for Kerry," one fellow, with a Bush sign in his yard, advised me scornfully from his stoop); and, second, because he was leading the war on terrorism ("I feel more safe with Bush in there," an elderly disabled man explained). There was still grumbling over the war, the economy, and other topics--the same elderly man who praised Bush for making him feel safe also bemoaned America's lack of universal health insurance--but these issues were eclipsed by the threat of gay weddings and terrorist attacks.

Bush carried West Virginia and won the election partly because he ran a better campaign than John Kerry. But that wasn't the only reason. There was something odd about the support for Bush in places like West Virginia. Unlike voters in New York City, voters in Martinsburg had little to fear from terrorist attacks; yet they backed Bush, while New Yorkers voted for Kerry. If gay marriage were legalized, Martinsburg would be unlikely to host massive numbers of same-sex weddings; yet voters I talked to were haunted by the specter of gay marriage."


http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=20070827&s=judis082707

"The average annual percentage of those believing abortion should be illegal dropped from 19 percent in 2004 to 15 percent in 2006, and the percentage believing it should be legal "under any circumstances" rose from 24 to 30 percent. The postSeptember 11 outburst of religiosity also began to abate, particularly among the young. These changes in public sentiment, which reflected the diminished psychological impact of September 11, help explain the Democratic triumph of 2006.

Of course, there are still voters within the Republican electorate whose hearts beat to the rhythms of September 11 and who are still engaged in a passionate defense of their worldview. They continue to identify the war in Iraq with the war on terror; they worry about illegal aliens and terrorists crossing the border; some even judge the growing public opposition to Bush as further confirmation of his role as protector. These voters appear particularly attracted to Rudy Giuliani, whose entire campaign is based upon reminding voters of September 11. And, if Giuliani is the Republican nominee in 2008, the election may pivot on his ability to use reminders of September 11 to provoke the public into another massive bout of worldview defense.

But, right now, it doesn't look promising for any candidate who hopes to follow Bush's 2004 script. The voters of 2008, including those in Martinsburg, will probably be buffeted by competing emotions about Iraq and the war on terrorism, and therefore less inclined to base their decisions on gay marriage. Barring another assault on American soil, the moment of September 11--and the reminder of mortality that it brought--may well have passed. And with it, too, the ascendancy of politicians who exploited the fear of death that lies within us all."

disrupter
08-30-2007, 02:26 AM
I think there is also a love of being endangered by something villainous.

By comparison, however undeserved, makes you seem virtuous.

It plays to the the melodramas we secretly love to inhabit.

It seems to give you 'moral authority'.

Our lives are lived in such a mercenary way, that we have a void of moral direction in our lives.
This fulfills it.
If we can't find a real villain, we will make one up.
Might call it religion.

Moby
08-30-2007, 10:59 AM
And, if Giuliani is the Republican nominee in 2008, the election may pivot on his ability to use reminders of September 11 to provoke the public into another massive bout of worldview defense.
Don't you mean how many terror alerts are issued leading up to the election? :lmao2:

Linkster
08-30-2007, 11:35 AM
I doubt seriously Giuliani will even come close to being the Rep. nominee - they have a lot more sense than that (at least they have shown in the past that they do)

Bill
08-30-2007, 04:02 PM
The neocon and republican cheerleaders have been lusting after another terrorist attack on american soil for the last few years. They know it's their only chance to continue their power grab, and create their thousand year reich. (I know, godwins law)

Since the real terrorists already have what they want with Iraq, they haven't been co-operating.

So, I figure that the corporatists are stuck with having to create a fake terror attack.

The rumors are that it could happen before sept 21st, based on the so-called "bin laden orders" in the financial sector.

Get that mortality salience back up to the levels the corporatists want.

Linkster
08-30-2007, 04:24 PM
The rumors are that it could happen before sept 21st, based on the so-called "bin laden orders" in the financial sector.
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It would have to be a few days before that - although most are picking this weekend - the option calls on the markets expire on the 21st so to feel the effect (make the most money) it would have to occur some time prior to Monday the 17th - with one single investor already into this for a little over $1 billion its a pretty good likelihood

Jennifer
08-30-2007, 04:49 PM
Men and women always flock to strength and leadership. This is NEWS??? Maybe if you democrats would have run Howard Dean instead of John Kerry you would have won in 2004! At least Dean never testified to being a child killing, rapist invading sovereign nations and then throwing his medals away like John Kerry did before Congress.

Bill
08-30-2007, 04:54 PM
Well, it's a healthy layer of hyperbole on my part... ;-}

Since the other possibilities are:

1. Advance knowledge of China dumping dollars.

or

2. Advance knowledge of an attack on Iran.

... both of which arguably more likley than advance knowledge of a really effective terrorist attack on american soil.

Which makes a terror attack, even a fake and managed terror attack, the least likely possibility, even tho it's what the corporatists and the neocons crave the most, and are most likely to try to secretly engineer.

If I had to bet, I'd bet on the attack on Iran, followed by China dumping dollars.

But, a fake terror attack on US soil would be the most devasting to our political integrity.

And trigger off a mad rush for strongmen.

Bill
08-30-2007, 04:57 PM
At least Dean never testified to being a child killing, rapist invading sovereign nations and then throwing his medals away like John Kerry did before Congress.

There ya go! It's never too late for hysterical hyperbole.