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Bill
08-13-2007, 01:03 AM
A big article on IEDs - more of them, and more sophisticated, all the time.

"The supply of IEDs and the men to deliver them has become so plentiful that there has been a decline of what is known in the narcotics trade as "street value." In 2005, the teams emplacing IEDs were being paid $100 for each successful blast. Now in central Iraq the payoff is sometimes as low as $40."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20226446/site/newsweek/page/2/

New insurgent tactics killed 5 - a sniper lured a squad into a building, then the building was blown up.

"A sniper shot and killed a U.S. soldier, then lured his comrades to a booby-trapped house where four more troops were killed in a complex attack believed to have been the work of al-Qaida in Iraq, a U.S. general said Sunday.

U.S. Maj. Gen. Rick Lynch, who commands the volatile southern rim of Baghdad and districts to the south, said the use of rigged houses was a new tactic against American forces trying to root out bomb networks in the rural insurgent strongholds.

The soldiers entered the house Saturday in search of the sniper who had killed one of their comrades minutes earlier. One soldier stepped on a pressure-triggered bomb. He and three others were killed and four wounded, Lynch told The Associated Press in a telephone interview. "

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20233068/

And, those missing weapons - turkish police have already confiscated 1000 Glock pistols which are flooding the turkish underground - including pistols used in islamic assasinations.

"... Father Andrea Santoro was kneeling in prayer when a bullet from an Austrian-made Glock 9mm pistol hit him in the back and pierced his heart. The soft-spoken 60-year-old Italian priest, who lived in poverty ministering to the city's tiny Christian community, slumped to the floor, and the killer squeezed off another round. "Allahu akbar!"—"God is great"—said the shooter, a 15-year-old boy with a grudge against the West.

In May of last year, another Muslim fanatic, guns blazing, attacked Turkey's supreme court in Ankara. Four justices were wounded and one was killed. The assassin's weapons of choice were a pair of Glock pistols.

The attacks were no mystery. What puzzled Turkish police was the weapons' origin. Glocks are high-quality sidearms, but by last year they had practically become common street weapons in Turkey. More than 1,000 had been taken from criminals, guerrillas, terrorists and assassins all over the country, and authorities believed tens of thousands more had found their way onto the black market—but from where? The Austrian government repeatedly checked the serial numbers of the murder weapons. The manufacturer informed Ankara that the pistols were consigned originally to " 'US Mission Iraq' [formerly the Coalition Provisional Authority], address: Republican Presidential Compound, Ministry of the Interior, Baghdad, Iraq.""

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20226447/site/newsweek/

New and better weapons, new tricky tactics, and the region is flooded with american guns diverted into the black market by corrupt Iraqis who were supposed to be in charge of equipping the still incapable Iraqi army and police.

What could go wrong?

disrupter
08-13-2007, 12:22 PM
If at all possible wars should be fought quick, overwhelmingly & clean.

This completely unnecessary, counterproductive fiasco of incompetence & lack of commitment in Iraq is disastrous.

Taliban & Al Qaeda come to Iraq to get trained on IEDs & fighting US military then take those skill back to Afghanistan & elsewhere.

By wallowing around, floundering in Iraq we are exposing ALL of our weaknesses as an occupation force & an organized, inflexible military.

What an embarrassment.

What foolishness.

We & our military have no real commitment in Iraq, because quite frankly we have no business being there. Not when we invaded, & not now.

This is all just an NSA plot to fatten Bechtel, Halliburton, Blackwater & to steal Iraq oil for ex-patriot oil corporations.

If Americans had any brains they would have been up in arms against the US administration & government at least 3 years ago.

Well, it is still better late than never.

WARNING: NOW THEY WANT TO DRAG US INTO IRAN & ARE PROPOSING A DRAFT TO BOOT.

The US government has become a wicked, wicked thing.

Moby
08-14-2007, 09:33 PM
This completely unnecessary, counterproductive fiasco of incompetence & lack of commitment in Iraq is disastrous.
Actually this war has been perfect.

1. We declared victory in Iraq the spring before the 2004 election. Before Dubya took office I was telling people there would be a war and that we'd declare victory the summer before the election.

2. We've used the war to increase oil prices.

3. We've used the war as a terror weapon against the American voters.

4. In the spring before the next election we will lower the number of troops and make it another election issue.

5. We've funneled gobs of money to friends of the administration.

6. We've dumped huge amounts of high quality weapons into the region to ensure generations of additional turmoil so that we can continue working #5.

It's a perfect war.

Politicz
08-16-2007, 03:57 AM
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I'm sick of all the hype about the slaughter house in Iraq. It's long sense worn out its effectiveness as a fear tactic for the American people by the news medias. Every month the stupid, and clueless insurgents do a massive bombing that kills anywhere from 50-500 people. Then the American news medias start saying, "there's an escalation of violence in Iraq, it needs to be put under control so that there isn't a civil war..." and blah, blah, bullshit! What the hell does the Bush administration call the present slaughter house in Iraq-a party for fairies? Iraq is already entrenched in a civil war. And, Iraq and Afghanistan are nothing more than Bush's messes that the American soldiers and the American people are going to pay dearly for, while Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, Rove, and all the other political criminals on Capital Hill line their already bulging pockets with more money made by way of bloodshed for oil. Bush is presently trying to find a way to bomb the hell out of Iran, and strategically do it so that it coincides with the 2008 elections-and in the republicans' favor to boot. The Bush administration couldn't give a rat's ass about the American people. Bush just wants the American people to sacrifice their sons and daughters for Bush's mess in Iraq, and Afghanistan, because Bush isn't going to send his own two military age daughters. Just live, have fun, and enjoy your life until the world gets tired of the American government's bullshit, and bombs America down.:disbelief:,:o

moonman
08-16-2007, 04:11 AM
None of these stories can be true. Dick Cheney said two years ago that the insurgency was in its final throes. Who ya gonna believe, your own lyin' eyes or Dick Cheney?

In all seriousness, we did win the war and as usual we lost the peace.